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Originally Posted by CCPcoatingscom
Exactly. The first problem is that bright ceramic has a very specific material thickness in which it has to be applied. If its applied too thin you'll have porosity and polishing issues. Worse yet, if it's applied too thick you'll get runs and a very orange peeled finish. Also, any "runs" are VERY prone to delamination in either the baking stage or the polishing stage.
On the subject of ID coatings, its "Buyer Beware"....Any coater can promise you the moon by telling you they coat the inside of your headers to make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, and unfortunately MANY do. Jet Hot has been blowing sunshine up peoples butts for years throughout their many owners and long before their recent 900 million dollar bankruptcy. The truth of the matter is this, if your coater is spraying bright ceramic on the ID of your headers, it will look nice and pretty when they arrive but its unlikely it will remain there for long. The reason for this is that ALL bright ceramics are water based materials and require an almost surgical preparation process in order for them to adhere to an easily accessible exterior surface. Now try and prepare a complex interior surface that only measures between 1-5/8 and 2-1/2 inch that you CAN'T see..... This level of preparation generally can not be done in most headers. So even if someone "actually" goes through the process of spraying the complete interior surface and again I say this lightly as most don't even spray the whole interior, the chances of survival are slim for a bright ceramic. Some are better than others, but none are perfect.
There are in fact other ceramics that are much better suited for ID applications but they require additional spraying and baking procedures which require additional cost, so you rarely here about them or are even offered them..... If you ever get the opportunity to cut apart a header that was "coated on the inside" feel free to do so. You'll be enlightened.....
I had my Pacesetters coated inside and outside by a local company here in Southern Cali called Embee coating performance, the inside wasn't bright, and when i asked them about it, they said something like the coating they use is different for the inside because of how the material sticks to headers, and how it's supposed to remain in there under high temps. I had mine coated black ceramic outside, and inside was orange, kind of flat, and supposedly rated at a higher temp, 2300F, vs the 1600F for the outside. They do coating for NHRA , and for most of the local Baja racing teams around here, besides some contracts for military grade equipment. They're a little more expensive, but i guess well worth the money based on the job they do and their customer satisfaction around tuning/pro racing shops.
Btw op, satin black looks freaking good under the hood, and it's different than the std shinny headers everyone has. i'd say satin black for the win
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