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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 10:41 AM Thread Starter
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Power Window Sticking

Anyone ever see something like this?

http://youtu.be/nYQdx-Qe8j8

This is after taking it to the dealership to figure out and fix. After what they deemed as troubleshooting, they ordered and replaced the switch in the console. (BS)

When you are pulling the switch in the car to roll the window up you can hear a 'click' in the door. Which tells me that the switch in the console is working, sending some signal to the door to roll the window. When the window does finally roll up, sounds like it labors a little bit to get up which tells me the guides might be off inside the door causing the window to stick (potential problem 1). Otherwise, might be a weak motor (potential problem 2).

Probably going back to the dealership so they can get it right. Forums know a whole helluva lot more about what is going on than the GM pawns at the dealer...
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
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Couple other observations:

Sometimes it will do it...sometimes it won't. First thing this morning I put the car in accessory and it sticks. Second time when I sit down to record what its doing...works fine. Third time this morning it starts 'sticking' and I get it on video.

With the auto down feature in these cars is it possible that the window 'up' capability is being 'timed out' sometimes and other times not? Is this a computer issue?
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I'm sorry to read about your experience with the dealership, HotRed. Would you mind keeping me in the loop of the outcome of your next visit to get this resolved?

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Any resolution to this?

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Car went back to the dealer after the initial visit. They took the entire thing apart (door, dash, and rocker panel...I am told). Have used the window since and it hasn't stuck. Yet.

Didn't really find / fix anything though. Just basically took it apart, dielectric greased everything, put it back together. Which is really annoying, but as long as it works that's all that matters, I suppose.
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Since there are no actual limit switches for the window up/down limits, the motors must still use the same technique as used for eons. When a window movement exceeds a preset torque value, an internal torque switch in the motor opens up to stop the action (to save the motor). So a tired motor or sticky tracks, could cause those internal torque switches to trip at any time. I'm sure they reset as fast as a blink once the overload is removed, but would require another console switch movement to try for further movement. So the lube job may have solved your problem.
But the front windows (only), has the power go from the console switches into a window controller. All the commands for up/down action comes from that controller before arriving at the window motors. That means there's a chance, *that it* could be a problem at some time.
Lastly, there is a front window calibration procedure that can be performed. It says it has to be done whenever a window regulator is replaced. But of course can be done anytime you desire. It has something to do with getting the circuit to understand where the up/down limits will happen (I think).
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Thank you for taking the time to share your update, HotRed. Did you make sure they put the visit into the system just in case you start to have this concern again? I hope this is the permanent fix for this, but if you have the invoice and/or know they have it in the system it could prove to be helpful if you need it in the future.

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my driver window is doing the same thing, i guess i will take everything apart and grease it all. wish my 3yr/36k mile wouldnt have ran out last month :/

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They replaced my switch for this exact problem. It still happens. I took it back they could not duplicate the result even though I said they tried to fix the problem before so what they did obviously wasn't the right solution. My stealership sucks.
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@dld7sportz, it might be worth a try to call the dealership and see if they can work something out with you since you are only a month out of warranty. It’s worth a try, any way.

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I’m sorry to read about your experience with your dealership, freezer41. I would like to look into you concerns. I’ll send you a private message with additional details I’ll need to proceed.

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I went to the dealership and they will not help me out at all, im kind of upset because it seems like everything is falling apart after the three year warranty ran out. My hazard light button is pushed in and broke, drivers window keeps stickin down, and the leather on my driver door handle is coming unravelled and i keep this car very clean and do not abuse it...

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@dld7sportz, I’m sorry to read about what you’re going through with the vehicle and the dealership. Do you know how far out of the Bumper to Bumper warranty you are?

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2-3 months now...

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Lastly, there is a front window calibration procedure that can be performed. It says it has to be done whenever a window regulator is replaced. But of course can be done anytime you desire. It has something to do with getting the circuit to understand where the up/down limits will happen (I think).

Does anyone have this calibration procedure that I can try?
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^^^^^ If you think it will help, here is whats printed in the service manual. *This system is programmed after one full up and down cycle*. 1>>> Press and hold the power window switch until the window is fully DOWN and continue holding the power switch for approximately 3 seconds. 2>>> They say press and hold, but I'm sure they meant *pull and hold* the power switch until the window is fully UP and continue holding the power switch for approximately 3 seconds. The power window/regulator motor is now programmed for the express function.
It says you can do this for all of the windows. Even tough the rears are not the express type. I have no idea if it solves anything, but it sure is an easy thing to do, especially if it does.
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Was wondering if anyone could help me out with this.

have on 09 g8 MGM, and my driver window stopped working. Got to work rolled my window up left work and my window wouldn't roll down at all. First I thought it was my switch, but I hear a click every time I pull or push the button to go up or down, and nothing just a click like it was transmitting the signal. Got a new regulator and put it in, nothing. tried the regulator separately and worked just fine. so now I have a new one and my old one which works also. Check the fuse F24 and I replaced it and still nothing. Anyone have this issue and what could it be. Cable?

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F24 -2A fuse is for the front window express up/down action. If either side works, you know that fuse is OK. If any window works, you know that the motor power fuse/CB is also OK. I see that if you want/need a motor, you have to buy the whole window regulator assembly (motor, hardware, and cabling). If there is some level of wire breakdown, it might be that the added weight load of the glass is causing the 12 volt power to fall off to an unacceptable level when going either direction. Does the problem continue with the door open as well as closed ? An it does fail in both directions anytime the glass weight load is added to the circuit ?
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Gopherit,

All my windows work except drivers window. Open and Closed, still doesn't work. Window doesn't move up or down. I powered the window up with external power, until I got the problem figured out.

I'm wondering now if its the power cable from fuse to window that is damaged
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The 2 wires going to your window motor, come from the forward window controller. The breakdown/loss of either of those 2 wires, will wipe you out for any up or down control. If you had a 12 volt test light with leads, I would tell you to test each wire to ground. A= down an B=up. A meter *might* read 12 volts to ground, even if a wire is effectively broken. A test light has to have a good wire to carry the load of that lamp. Or you could get behind that left kick panel (to get access to the 16 pin disconnect connector). It supplies all the wiring to power up all things in/on that door.I'll help as best I can if you want to try to verify the condition of the 2 wires from one end to the other.
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