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If you are reading this while dressed in three layers of flannel and have just shoveled the snow your driveway, we apologize in advance for the next line...

In San Diego, it's now sunny, 72 degrees, and we've just spent six hours behind the wheel of the new Pontiac G8. We may need some sun screen, but we're also going to need a plastic surgeon to remove the smile from our face.

Actually, several surgeons are needed, as there are a ton of smiles as we introduce the G8 performance sedan to a large group of automotive media. Their collective comment... "WOW!!!"

You've probably already seen some of the reviews on-line, so we were feeling pretty good when we started the event. But, it's very special when a journalist tells you that he is seriously considering trading in his BMW 5-series on the G8.

After driving both V6s and V8s through some of the most glorious twists and turns in the country, we can understand the enthusiasm. Power, handling, steering responsiveness...this thing rides like it's on rails and the looks have the some of the locals doing double-takes.

At a U.S. Border Patrol checkpoint on Interstate 8, every car is inspected. Usually, it's a cursory five-second look and then a wave to move on. The Red Hot G8 GT we're driving pulls up and suddenly the guard motions for us to stop. He says he has questions for us. Visions of being "detained for questioning" start filling our heads.

In that stern, arms-across-chest stance that we've all seen a little too often, he starts asking us about the car: horsepower, transmission, colors, price. The traffic is backing up behind us as we dutifully answer every question. After all, we're cooperating with homeland security, right?

After the drive, we find out from some of our media friends who were behind us that, by the time the guard got their car, he was calling his friends over and giving them the entire sales pitch about the G8. Now THAT'S making an impression!

And you'll soon be able to make some impressions of your own. We are pleased to report that the very first load of the First 888 cars have left the port, bound for east coast dealers. A second load of First 888s for the west coast should ship next week, followed very quickly by several thousand more.

For those lucky enough to get one of those first cars and can't resist "airing it out" a bit, let's just hope that your local police officer will be as impressed as the U.S. Border Patrol.

Underground (http://pontiacunderground.autos.yahoo.com/blog.php?id=439)

I want to say its about time, but I'm sure that is the single thought of about 1500 of us! Only question is, San Diego? Thought they were coming out of east bay San Francisco/Oakland area? Oh, and it looks like they are being loaded on trains, rail dust be damned!:thumbsup:

Posts like this are what keep me hopefully searching several times a day. I love hearing comments like yours!

Great post. It's cool seeing them getting loaded up and on their way.

Finally, some action

Finally, I can't wait to get the call from the dealer saying there 888 is in.

I'm glad they finally have gotten around to shipping them.

Posts like this are what keep me hopefully searching several times a day. I love hearing comments like yours!

x2.

Are the comments yours? I missed who wrote the "article".

Someone spotted two truckloads in TX yesterday.. heh

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Are the comments yours? I missed who wrote the "article".

www.pontiacunderground

link was at end of post

These suckers have been invoiced and appear in dealer inventory already.


Border patrol where the only cars come in by boat - cush job!

So is there a way to obtain the VIN's for the vehicles that are currently in transit?

I just talked to my dealer - #287 cleared customs and was released from the port on February 27th. Expect 14 days or so to get to eastern GA. VIN # is not leading zero's like I would expect, but the First 888 numbers appear to have 988 where you would expect to see leading zero's.

I want to say its about time, but I'm sure that is the single thought of about 1500 of us! Only question is, San Diego? Thought they were coming out of east bay San Francisco/Oakland area? Oh, and it looks like they are being loaded on trains, rail dust be damned!:thumbsup:

Claybar to the rescue!

Looks like they have set up a good plan so most of the cars will reach dealers across the U.S. around the same time. :thumbsup:

There should be some friendly contest of who can post a picture of them in their new G8first.

Finally, some action


YUP GM has a hit more aptly a homerun on their hands here.

This will omly help other GM products as well.

Hi, guys, a junior newbie, here. Just came from the MotorTrend Greater Milwaukee Auto Show (a tier 3 show) and spoke separately with a Pontiac rep as well as a dealer rep. Both told me not to count on seeing any G8s at dealerships in our area for another 4 weeks. They had one GT there, a red one on the turntable.
On the bright side, they both confirmed the GXP rumors, (confirmed the plans to produce it, nothing more) but made it clear that they're going to try to fan the flames of desire for the GT before common knowledge of the GXP becomes known. They wouldn't comment any further after that.

Transit of the G-8's will begin next week, estimated arrival still around mid month! You will be the first to know!

Just got that from my dealer last night. I am on the West coast, southern Ca. Maybe they are trying to time the public release with the #888 giveaway?

Just got that from my dealer last night. I am on the West coast, southern Ca. Maybe they are trying to time the public release with the #888 giveaway?

West Coast, PNW here. Nobody in the Puget Sound area has a clue. Did the dealer search and no G8's show up, anywhere around the whole area. When was that giveaway Grand Am race at Homestead?:dunno:

My (limited) sources are expecting invoices this week which means they are on the ground. I would guess they want to get cars to all the high volume dealers at roughly the same time, so they may be staggering shipment from the ports to do that. Maybe another week?

Great news!, thanks. I'll go around today and look for some at dealers here in San Diego. If I spot them I'll post them ASAP! Stay tuned.... Dean

i dont think that they mean s.d dealers will have them on their lots yet do they????

My locals have the paper work and have told me once they get the info they expect a 10-2 week shipment time, but they are not sure due to the vastly different shipping process for these cars.

I still think its hilarious how 'in the dark' most dealers are.

The guy I talked to at my local said its
"not the big block thats in the GTO's so you wont feel the same power...
im like "what you talking about??? its the same engine!!!!
" no, its not the same block!!"
"yeah it is the same engine just fewer ponies... you bone head!!!" I didnt call him a bonehead, but I should have. I mean we all know everything about this car, why the heck dont they???
It will actually work in our favour so its all good.

I'm wondering why some dealers don't dedicate one salesperson to get onto this forum once a day? When I went into my local dealer, they knew nothing about the car and were surpirsed how much I knew. It's there job to know and they don't know jack.

Considering most dealers have an internet sales manager, I'm surprised at that myself.

I hear ya. Everyone here in MO drives an SUV or a big truck. When I lived in DC, it was all merecedes, lexus and BMWs. Doesn't anyone want to drive an american made muscle car anymore? They look at you like you are a freak.

I asked them if they knew anything about the 888 allocation a week ago and they looked at me like I'm from outer space by answering with "Whats That".

With more than 2000 dealers and only 886 available from the first 888, lots of dealers will get none, and I know of some that got more than one. The lucky guys knew in November or December how many they were getting, based on sales levels and who knows what other politics, so I expect that the rest who were getting none were not even notified of the program.

i dont think that they mean s.d dealers will have them on their lots yet do they????

My locals have the paper work and have told me once they get the info they expect a 10-2 week shipment time, but they are not sure due to the vastly different shipping process for these cars.

I still think its hilarious how 'in the dark' most dealers are.

The guy I talked to at my local said its
"not the big block thats in the GTO's so you wont feel the same power...
im like "what you talking about??? its the same engine!!!!
" no, its not the same block!!"
"yeah it is the same engine just fewer ponies... you bone head!!!" I didnt call him a bonehead, but I should have. I mean we all know everything about this car, why the heck dont they???
It will actually work in our favour so its all good.

It's not the same engine. Despite every car magazine's misprint in every article stating it was the "LS2", it actually is not. So the dealer was right, sorry.

I hear ya. Everyone here in MO drives an SUV or a big truck. When I lived in DC, it was all merecedes, lexus and BMWs. Doesn't anyone want to drive an american made muscle car anymore? They look at you like you are a freak.

Not everyone in Missouri! I eat Dodge hemi pickup trucks for lunch here in the SW corner. The pricy imports are nice if you can afford 'em, but our incomes here in Ozark land aren't in the 6 figure ranges like the coasts, but the sticker prices are the same for everyone. A $60,000 Lexus isn't much of a load for them as it is for us.

I've never been a big fan of the imports. I grew up on GM and I would take a G8 over a BMW, a corvette over a porsche and an escalade over a lexus, no matter how much money I had. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them, but I personally think they're overrated. Someone must like them though, because they sell a boat load of them.

Saw a commercial late saturday night. It was from Jim Ball Pontiac. They claimed to have 3 g8's available now.

Weird? Are they banking on getting them this week, or do they already have them?


btw, this is Buffalo, NY

Saw a commercial late saturday night. It was from Jim Ball Pontiac. They claimed to have 3 g8's available now.

Weird? Are they banking on getting them this week, or do they already have them?


btw, this is Buffalo, NY

And you didn't run up there to see for yourself because, why? lol

I did a search and found 2 dealers near me are getting one GT each, one red and one white. Was going to stop by closest one tonite (gotta order stupid plastic clips for '04 GTO anyway) and see what they know.

So if I am understanding correctly, the first boat docked in San Diego and had 1500 cars on it. I assume there are a lot more than 1500 which have been produced so far at the plant. Are there more ships on the way and if so, does anyone know the numbers of cars shipped per boat and how often? For example are there 1500 cars coming every two weeks?

So if I am understanding correctly, the first boat docked in San Diego and had 1500 cars on it. I assume there are a lot more than 1500 which have been produced so far at the plant. Are there more ships on the way and if so, does anyone know the numbers of cars shipped per boat and how often? For example are there 1500 cars coming every two weeks?

Don't know about the shipping frequency, but there are no ships with G8s in San Diego, however there is one in Benicia, CA, northeast of San Francisco.

And you didn't run up there to see for yourself because, why? lol

I did a search and found 2 dealers near me are getting one GT each, one red and one white. Was going to stop by closest one tonite (gotta order stupid plastic clips for '04 GTO anyway) and see what they know.

it was at 12:40am Saturday night :cry:

it was at 12:40am Saturday night :cry: = less traffic! You would have made record time! :gears: :gr_jest: I'm just wondering if you would have physically seen one if you went up there. If they were there they would have probably been back in prep anyway.

I got the VIN for the one that is supposedly going to the dealer close to me and I'll take it to them and see what they know.

I thought the beginning of this thread stated G8s were being unloaded from a boat in San Diego and onto rail cars? Does this mean there are two boats? Maybe they are coming in at the southern, middle and northern west coasts and shipping from there.

They did some test driving in San Diego, but there is no G8-filled boat here.

Saw a commercial late saturday night. It was from Jim Ball Pontiac. They claimed to have 3 g8's available now.

Weird? Are they banking on getting them this week, or do they already have them?


btw, this is Buffalo, NY

1 black V6, #397/888, invoiced - no guarantee its there. no others showing yet so they are just jabbing about their allocations

Well I want an 09 anyhow.

But I'm still planing on going and test driving a GT just to keep my spirits up. Knowing me I'll buy one on the spot...

1 black V6, #397/888, invoiced

Where do you get the info about the invoicing? I thought all of the 888's were GT's...

75% of the 888s are GT, the rest are v6. No sunroofs on any 888s either , which is weird.

I ask a Pontiac dealer a few months back concerning a G8 and didn't know what it was. LOL then I ask about a 04 GTO automatic he had available he wanted $6,000 as a down payment for a car that had 25,000 miles for $19,995. When I told him I wasn't interested that I wanted to know when was the G8 coming he tried to lure me into a 2004 Grand Prix. I told him sorry I don't drive FWD cars and walk away. To date that dealer has no promo of the up coming G8 however a bigger dealer located downtown in Manhattan already has the promo going.

Just got a call from my dealer. They said they have the VIN for our GT and expect the vehicle to arrive in a few days. BTW - this GT is NOT one of the 888's

Sluggz- (or anyone who knows)

Where did you get the "no sunroof" on any of the 888's info from?

Well I want an 09 anyhow.

But I'm still planing on going and test driving a GT just to keep my spirits up. Knowing me I'll buy one on the spot...

+1, sounds like me.

The suspense is killing me. We just sold our 06 Corvette and have cash money for a GT. Planning on waiting until the 09s come out, but I want to see and sit in one!

Sluggz- (or anyone who knows)

Where did you get the "no sunroof" on any of the 888's info from?

It was first mentioned on this forum several months ago by someone who works in the factory.

Hmm. Well, just based on that alone, and without judging anybody's credibility, could be that info isn't accurrate. At least I hope not.

It would truly perplex me that they wouldn't make at least "some" of the 888's with all the bells and whistles.

Just got a call from my dealer. They said they have the VIN for our GT and expect the vehicle to arrive in a few days. BTW - this GT is NOT one of the 888's

Where are you located?

My dealer told me the same about the 888's...no sunroof. He's getting 2 of them...the first is already up on the GM site. Red, Premium Package, NO sunroof.

That was probably my biggest turn off...that and the fact that my dealer said both of his 888's were taken. :)

Mike

Hmm. Well, just based on that alone, and without judging anybody's credibility, could be that info isn't accurrate. At least I hope not.

It would truly perplex me that they wouldn't make at least "some" of the 888's with all the bells and whistles.

Here is the post with the original Pontiac info:

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=610

You can see the preconfigured packages did not include a sunroof for whatever reason. I know my dealer confirmed the same.

Chip

I will not buy one without a sunroof. GM has their heads so far up their asses it's not even funny.

Well, after reading that, the only mention that there is no sunroof is just no mention at all.

Not at all questioning ur knowledge base, as I can say comfortably - if ur on here it surpasses mine I'm sure, however, is a "sunroof" option considered a key aspect of a configuration? Meaning, if it is, there will be three configurations; the other two and then one with a sunroof.

I appreciate u trying to help me out, but I hate to blow the wind out of the saleman's sails based solely on "no mention" of a sunroof.

When I bought my GTP in '04, the sunroof was not listed in what I understood to be the configs, it was optional.

Given the fact that the G8 can't be custom configured, but instead selected in the pre-configured varieties, why would they consider the addition of a sunroof yet another configuration and not just an available option? Make sense what I'm asking?

Seems to me that Pontiac would have had to intentionally exclude the sunroof in the 888's, but for what reason?

Each of the cars at a recent local "ride-and-drive" were decked out with sunroofs yet the attending sales staff were instructed only about the two configurations.

Now as for the salesman not being able to tell me a "for sure or not", I agree with ya. Now that they are on trains and movin' places, he should know by now. Still, there's a chance it might not be his fault if he doesn't.

I have my VIN, I have my paperwork, I have the money for the car, I have a deal with my dealer... Sure would be nice to have the car. I have to agree with the others when I say that Post like DevilYellow make me coming back for more.

Like tjccpa, I have decoded my VIN to find that the last six digits start with 988... I know mine is an 888 but I wonder why they didn't start the sequence number with 000... No, big deal as long as it is an authentic 888.

I also like the idea of posting a picture of the first person who get theirs. I am getting mine from Virginia. First, Second or last, I'll try to get a picture on here for you'aw.

My dealer's tag was for the full #7 package on his first GT. He doesn't have the invoice yet, but I don't think his was an 888 car. I couldn't care less about a sunroof, 'cause I need the headroom.

I'm on the othere side of the sunroof, if it has one I don't want it. Dealer in Wisconsin has for G8s comming his way. One Orange that is an 888. Before I make a purchase I would like to see one in white and Blue. Right now I lean toward Red but we'll see.

No sunroof for me either. I have had one for years and have only opened it twice. I guess some people demand it and some people want no part of a sunroof.

I have my VIN, I have my paperwork, I have the money for the car, I have a deal with my dealer... Sure would be nice to have the car. I have to agree with the others when I say that Post like DevilYellow make me coming back for more.

Like tjccpa, I have decoded my VIN to find that the last six digits start with 988... I know mine is an 888 but I wonder why they didn't start the sequence number with 000... No, big deal as long as it is an authentic 888.

I also like the idea of posting a picture of the first person who get theirs. I am getting mine from Virginia. First, Second or last, I'll try to get a picture on here for you'aw.


We all know what they look like :angel:

Now we all want to drive one

It was first mentioned on this forum several months ago by someone who works in the factory.

It was also pulled directly from with GM to dealer tagging instructions which included the short list of only available configurations for the 888's being built. Here's the "proof" http://g8board.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7822&postcount=1

Well I want an 09 anyhow.

But I'm still planing on going and test driving a GT just to keep my spirits up. Knowing me I'll buy one on the spot...

I doubt anybody will be test driving G8 GT's for months. The initial allocation of cars are mostly presold and will be out the door as fast as they arrive into the dealerships.

G8 V-6's will probably be the only showroom cars for quite a while.

P.S. I've never understood the appeal of sunroofs. They're ugly, reduce headroom and increase cost. They're only value, IMHO, is being able to spot flying cops trying to clock you.

Thanks to all for the info, I'm, pretty much convinced any glimmering hope of a sunroof has been quashed.

I just like the sunlight.......that and threatening to throw the kids out the sunroof has been an excellent deterent of bad behavour for so long....

Had a problem with my Grand Prix GTP a couple months ago...decided its time for a trade...Long Story Short.....Im getting the first one in my area...cant wait....I was originally told the Dealer would have it the third week of Feb...they said its kinda like one of those deals that it will just pop up on a truck...anyway...I went to the dealership for an update...he told me probly this week....but not certain. Will let ya'll know.

P.S. Its silver/prem pkg/all season/sunroof and GT all the way!

P.S.S. I cant part with my GTP...not gonna trade it!

Had a problem with my Grand Prix GTP a couple months ago...decided its time for a trade...Long Story Short.....Im getting the first one in my area...cant wait....I was originally told the Dealer would have it the third week of Feb...they said its kinda like one of those deals that it will just pop up on a truck...anyway...I went to the dealership for an update...he told me probly this week....but not certain. Will let ya'll know.

P.S. Its silver/prem pkg/all season/sunroof and GT all the way!

P.S.S. I cant part with my GTP...not gonna trade it!

If you're able to get a sunroof, please let the rest of us know how you did it. I like sunroofs but am under the understanding that they will not be available at launch. I know mine doesn't have one so I think I am going to settle for an after market recommended by my dealer.

If yours does come with a sunroof, I'll be pissed they didn't put better information out there. True to Pontiac's/GM history, they have given as little information about this car as possible and still keep everyone interested. I just saw the first commercial for it a couple of nights ago and have talked to dealers who know nothing about it.

P.S. Gray; L76; prem pkg; sport pkg; 888 GT. Only one option missing... Radar detector

He didn't say it was an 888.

He didn't say it was an 888.Correct, only the first 888 don't have a sunroof. However, word was that only about 30% of the G8's have sunroofs after that (I believe Asylum said that from seeing them at the factory).

He didn't say it was an 888.

Hey J Wikoff. Weren't you a member/moderator of the BonnevilleClub forum with WilWren? U remember me? I'm glad to see you are moving on to biggger and better things! I am getting an 888 in Maryland. Dealer took my custom order options in December. (What was available anyways, which was pretty much color options lol)

Mine is a Black Panther with Black LEather and Red inserts. No Sports package :madsign3:, and no sun roof.

Like most poeple on this forum, we know alot more about these cars than the dealer does. He relies on me for updates. :eek2:

just called the car tracking director and he told me that he was talking with my sales person and one of the GM execs. They said it is in transit so it will pop up any day now.


yessssssss!

Yep, that's me. More recently, I've become an admin over there.

When I get a G8... is still up in the air. I kinda waiting to see what 09's will offer. It'll have to be a GT, if not a GXP, depending on price. The ol' Bonny is here to stay, though. :)

I haven't approached a dealer about one yet. The local Pontiac dealership wouldn't let me test drive a GTO because "the people that buy them don't need a test drive"... I haven't been back.

Does anyone know if there is a way to look up the options per the VIN number? My dealer gave me my VIN but he doesnt have an invoice yet. my VINs last half is 8L988802 which I believe is the 802nd G8 made. nuthin to do know but site back and wait! :popcorn2:

Does anyone know if there is a way to look up the options per the VIN number? My dealer gave me my VIN but he doesnt have an invoice yet. my VINs last half is 8L988802 which I believe is the 802nd G8 made. nuthin to do know but site back and wait! :popcorn2:

I have been looking into that too. I can tell you that the "8" is for 2008, the "L" is for the Assembly Plant. You are correct the 988802 is the Vehicle Identifier Section. Last 8 characters of the VIN are used for the identification of a specific vehicle. Last 4 characters are always numeric. Identifies the sequence of the vehicle for production as it rolled off the manufacturers assembly line.

The first part should be 6G2. This stands for Pontiac Australia. Characters 4 through 8 are the Vehicle Descriptor Section. This will tell you your options, break system, body type, engine and so on. The "9" is a check Digit.

Hope that helps.

Well It Looks Like More Than One Dealer In My Area Has Already Got Some G8's. The Ones Ive Talked To Only Have The V6 Sedan But Its A Start. They Also Say That They Are Due To Get More This Next Week. I Was Told Last Week They Were Not Expecting Any For About 3 Weeks.

Anyone Know About This Or Is It Earlier Than We All Expected??

Does anyone know if there is a way to look up the options per the VIN number? My dealer gave me my VIN but he doesnt have an invoice yet. my VINs last half is 8L988802 which I believe is the 802nd G8 made. nuthin to do know but site back and wait! :popcorn2:

Yes I have a complete list of your options with that VIN :popcorn2:
What do you want to know? :angel:

-Greg

just called the car tracking director and he told me that he was talking with my sales person and one of the GM execs. They said it is in transit so it will pop up any day now.


yessssssss!

GM hasn't learned a damn thing. When I got my GTO they said the same thing - it will just show up someday - soon...

I can buy a pair of socks from New Zealand and know where the hell they are in the delivery chain with just a click of the mouse. Why can't GM do that for cars? It's beyond me...and it's not rocket surgery.

Get yo' **** together GM!

Maybe we can have Fedex or UPS ship them. Hell even DHL or the Post Office. This way, we can look up the tracking # and see exactly where the car is, until it ends up in your driveway for signature.

Hey guys...not really new to the forums for reading, just my 1st post. I reserved my G8 GT last saturday, and still am waiting to hear from my dealer as well, general concisous seems to be most are clueless. Oh, and J Wikoff, i see your from East Peoria, me too! Let me know if you get your before i get mine!!!

You'll get yours first. Whichever G8 I get my hands on probably isn't a twinkle in an Aussie's eye just yet.

looks like no one read my previous post... ill say it agian.......
my dealers over here in so cal have theirs already!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i nearly just signed the deal on a mag grey 888....!!!!!!! it would be in the garage if i had already signed the papers on the GTO sale!!!!! which shall be done tomorrow. with luck I could have one by the end of the week.

here was the deal. They had the car at 5k over sticker... with all the BS attached, minus my 2k deposit my out the door price was going to be 39+K.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I told them "absofu$%inglutely not!!!!!!! im not paying over sticker.... all they did was tell me how important it was to have an 888!!!!!
the final deal thrown at me before I walked out was 2k over sticker....!!!!!

who would pay that for the 888... i think its an ok deal and might go back tomorrow and buy it!!!!!

anyone else get some at local dealers.

also in socal. they all have them.

yeah i guess we are lucky first

As Maximum Bob said, the smile states are the primary target for this car, i.e. the west-southwest thru the southeast-mideast. So they will see the cars first. I mean the sport package doesn't even offer anything but "summer only" tires.....that tell you something? All those of us in states that get a more normal amount of precipitation must fend for ourselves!:bubbrubb:

I'm in SW Missouri, land of the ice storms, and mine will have the sport package and summer tires. But it isn't one of the 888, must the 2nd wave.

Yeah, same type of thing for us in the Seattle area. Keep looking buy don't see anything. When I order my '09 G8, it will have AS tires, regardless of what I have to do to get them. If I have to go after market they will be Goodyear Eagle F1 AS. Don't have a lot of snow to deal with, couple of storms per year, but we do get the rain!:boink:

Had a call from my dealer on Monday he said that my car had received 4300 status and was shipped from the San Fran area but that all the cars were still going to just outside Kansas City for final inspection before being sent to the dealers. He said this after attending the GM dealer training for the car last week. Just thought I would throw this information in so that we can all collectivly pull our hair out waiting for delivery.

I also saw that the cars were covered for the trip and did not sustain any rail dust or other damage from the trip.

The pics I've seen elsewhere here show the hoods covered with a plastic or paper shipping material for protection against rail dust, etc. My dealer is supposed to be in KC, I think he said this week, for a training drive. I said he will take pics and call me when he gets back. Sure hope we don't have snow/ice on the day when he's supposed to go. I really wasn't ready to buy this car until around June 1, but you guys have me all stirred up, and delivery seems to be end of the month. Hope they don't decide their deal was too low.

I live in the suburbs of KC and I have not seen one single G8.

To be honest, we're still getting a lot of snow/ice bad weather here in the north east. I should hope nobody in my neck of the woods is dieing to drive a rwd car with summer tires...

Yeah, same type of thing for us in the Seattle area. Keep looking buy don't see anything. When I order my '09 G8, it will have AS tires, regardless of what I have to do to get them. If I have to go after market they will be Goodyear Eagle F1 AS. Don't have a lot of snow to deal with, couple of storms per year, but we do get the rain!:boink:

As an '09 you will have a choice of ability to get AS tires in 18" or 19", direct from GM. But the fact is, right now no manufacturer listed at tirerack.com has a performance (or better) all-season tire in 245/40-19. Even aftermarket may lag behind oem for this. Closest thing I have found is a wet-weather specific (but not AS) BF Goodrich G-force.

looks like no one read my previous post... ill say it agian.......
my dealers over here in so cal have theirs already!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i nearly just signed the deal on a mag grey 888....!!!!!!! it would be in the garage if i had already signed the papers on the GTO sale!!!!! which shall be done tomorrow. with luck I could have one by the end of the week.

here was the deal. They had the car at 5k over sticker... with all the BS attached, minus my 2k deposit my out the door price was going to be 39+K.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I told them "absofu$%inglutely not!!!!!!! im not paying over sticker.... all they did was tell me how important it was to have an 888!!!!!
the final deal thrown at me before I walked out was 2k over sticker....!!!!!

who would pay that for the 888... i think its an ok deal and might go back tomorrow and buy it!!!!!

anyone else get some at local dealers.

It will be a cold day in hell before I pay over sticker. Speaking of new cars, did anyone see King of the Hill on Sunday? Hank was getting a "special deal" from his dealer which turned out to be sticker price! Everyone on the show thought he was a sucker! How long will it be before the G8 GT is available below sticker? Maybe an 09 will be below sticker?

How long will it be before the G8 GT is available below sticker? Maybe an 09 will be below sticker?

You speak like it is up to GM, the deal you get. I can guarantee people will be getting this vehicle at sticker. Some others will be getting '08s below sticker. Even others will be getting invoice. :eek:

It is totally up to you, the deal you get.

too true^^. Its all in how you sell it too.

I am happy to report that I just got off the phone with a dealer in California. They claimed to have two 888's on their lot. One is Silver and one is White. Neither car has sold. The sales person said they got them yesterday.

The dealer’s web site is www.1simpson.com. Phone number is 800-783-5971.

Just thought you would like to know. I have a deal in the works and will see this one through, but if you want one now, here it is. Unfortunately I agreed to a little over sticker but I can live with that.

Having said that, I am sure that the other dealers expecting a G8 should be getting them with in the next 72 - 96 hours. :attachment:

Just left my dealer.. Two black 888's, #47 and #315. 315 is mine if i want it for 2k over MSRP, everyone else would have to drop 5k over MSRP.. Lease program is crap, 1k down would get me $615 a month with 54% residual.

Financing is rough and no sunroof are really tough to swallow. But black on black with the prem and sport packages i could be driving tonight!!!

What do i do!? lol

Sorry but no dealer gets MSRP from me, let alone any markup. But if you have to be one of the first (for whatever selfish reason), then it's all you! :p

My advise is if you have good credit and a credit card try to get a promotional offer. Put down a large down payment because th monthly payments on this thing can be rough. Thats what i'm doing I got 2.99 for 1 yr on plastic loan payment is 1.27% of the borrow amount. I also have a option for 0% but its only till June 08

Will someone please tell me what is the sticker price and the final sales price. Oh and the sales tax in your area?

Just left my dealer.. Two black 888's, #47 and #315. 315 is mine if i want it for 2k over MSRP, everyone else would have to drop 5k over MSRP.. Lease program is crap, 1k down would get me $615 a month with 54% residual.

Financing is rough and no sunroof are really tough to swallow. But black on black with the prem and sport packages i could be driving tonight!!!

What do i do!? lol


Do not freakin' spend $2K over MSRP!

Do not freakin' spend $2K over MSRP!

What he said. Please people, do not pay above MSRP. You only encourage the dealers the keep up this highway robbery. Just relax and we can all get a car at a good price.

There are even two of these cars on E-bay right now with a BUY IT NOW of MSRP. Print that out, and take it to the local dealer as a bargining chip. (I can buy a one-way plane ticket to fly to the E-bay dealer for 100 bucks....why would I pay any dealer more than 100 bucks over MSRP)

They bank on our excitement.. Been away from the car for about an hour now and do not feel that urge to buy it anymore.

not going to pay over msrp, especially for a car that is missing a sunroof that i really enjoy having...

They almost got me!

They bank on our excitement.. Been away from the car for about an hour now and do not feel that urge to buy it anymore.

not going to pay over msrp, especially for a car that is missing a sunroof that i really enjoy having...

They almost got me!

Good to hear! The worst thing you could do is buy a G8 $2,000 + over MSRP and then come back on this board and read how most of the users got their car at MSRP. That would be painful! Besides, you absolutely will be able to get it at MSRP. Keep working that guy, or better yet, find a dealer who is not into ripping you off!

As an '09 you will have a choice of ability to get AS tires in 18" or 19", direct from GM. But the fact is, right now no manufacturer listed at tirerack.com has a performance (or better) all-season tire in 245/40-19. Even aftermarket may lag behind oem for this. Closest thing I have found is a wet-weather specific (but not AS) BF Goodrich G-force.

Yeah, I know. All I could find was something close enough to work well, 245/35ZR19. Hoping the small decrease in profile will not adversely affect ride quality. Wouldn't think so, but stranger things have happened!:dunno:

" Originally Posted by achieftain View Post
As an '09 you will have a choice of ability to get AS tires in 18" or 19", direct from GM. But the fact is, right now no manufacturer listed at tirerack.com has a performance (or better) all-season tire in 245/40-19. Even aftermarket may lag behind oem for this. Closest thing I have found is a wet-weather specific (but not AS) BF Goodrich G-force."

Yeah, I know. All I could find was something close enough to work well, 245/35ZR19. Hoping the small decrease in profile will not adversely affect ride quality. Wouldn't think so, but stranger things have happened!:dunno:

I searched the ordering guide .pdf file.
I did not see a reference to 19" A/S..??
Where did you see this?
Thanks,
- Ray
Near Atlanta where there typically are 3 seasons - ish....

" Originally Posted by achieftain View Post
As an '09 you will have a choice of ability to get AS tires in 18" or 19", direct from GM. But the fact is, right now no manufacturer listed at tirerack.com has a performance (or better) all-season tire in 245/40-19. Even aftermarket may lag behind oem for this. Closest thing I have found is a wet-weather specific (but not AS) BF Goodrich G-force."



I searched the ordering guide .pdf file.
I did not see a reference to 19" A/S..??
Where did you see this?
Thanks,
- Ray
Near Atlanta where there typically are 3 seasons - ish....

Ray you talking about my post or Chief? Mine was from tirerack.com off the Goodyear Eagle F1 AS size listings.

Ray you talking about my post or Chief? Mine was from tirerack.com off the Goodyear Eagle F1 AS size listings.

Both posts really.
I can't find anything to verify the initial statement.
[ Not disputing - just looking for a second ?? ]
And the fact that no A/S tires appear to exist today in that size...
??
- Ray
Just curious.. And might be interested, when the time comes...

Replying to izayn #94, I tried once to put down $5000 on a new car because that set of credit card checks offered the airline miles. But the dealer said no, they only allowed $2000. I don't know why they would limit it at all. What if I wanted to buy a $30,000 car on a Visa and get points, bonuses, rewards, etc? The only thing I could think of was they pay a surcharge and would have cost them 2.5% (or whatever % they are charged). But then why can I go in a furniture store and buy $30,000 on a Visa if I wanted to? Could be a profit thing, not wanting to eat into it on the surcharges where other things, like furniture, have huge mark-ups. OK, I'll stop rambling on this. But I am curious if anyone ever put several thousand $$ down on a credit card...

Replying to izayn #94, I tried once to put down $5000 on a new car because that set of credit card checks offered the airline miles. But the dealer said no, they only allowed $2000. I don't know why they would limit it at all. What if I wanted to buy a $30,000 car on a Visa and get points, bonuses, rewards, etc? The only thing I could think of was they pay a surcharge and would have cost them 2.5% (or whatever % they are charged). But then why can I go in a furniture store and buy $30,000 on a Visa if I wanted to? Could be a profit thing, not wanting to eat into it on the surcharges where other things, like furniture, have huge mark-ups. OK, I'll stop rambling on this. But I am curious if anyone ever put several thousand $$ down on a credit card...

Oh... I forgot to mention that I'm using a cash advance check or I'm going to have the credit moved into my debit card.

Another reason to do that is the car becomes yours and there is no lien on it.

Replying to izayn #94, I tried once to put down $5000 on a new car because that set of credit card checks offered the airline miles. But the dealer said no, they only allowed $2000. I don't know why they would limit it at all. What if I wanted to buy a $30,000 car on a Visa and get points, bonuses, rewards, etc? The only thing I could think of was they pay a surcharge and would have cost them 2.5% (or whatever % they are charged). But then why can I go in a furniture store and buy $30,000 on a Visa if I wanted to? Could be a profit thing, not wanting to eat into it on the surcharges where other things, like furniture, have huge mark-ups. OK, I'll stop rambling on this. But I am curious if anyone ever put several thousand $$ down on a credit card...

You got it. The credit card company charges the company back a percentage for using the card. Can be anywhere from 2%-8% depending on the credit card. I think Amex is one of the most expensive. But then again, from the business side you are guaranteed your money.

Replying to izayn #94, I tried once to put down $5000 on a new car because that set of credit card checks offered the airline miles. But the dealer said no, they only allowed $2000. I don't know why they would limit it at all. What if I wanted to buy a $30,000 car on a Visa and get points, bonuses, rewards, etc? The only thing I could think of was they pay a surcharge and would have cost them 2.5% (or whatever % they are charged). But then why can I go in a furniture store and buy $30,000 on a Visa if I wanted to? Could be a profit thing, not wanting to eat into it on the surcharges where other things, like furniture, have huge mark-ups. OK, I'll stop rambling on this. But I am curious if anyone ever put several thousand $$ down on a credit card...

Ive thought about doing the same thing. My Discover card would give me 3% back on all purchases for a while. I figured why not get some $$ back.

If they let me put 5k on the card. I get 150 back for doing nothing but what i was planning on doing with a check.

The more the better. I have the funds to pay for half the car already. Im interested in hearing what others are paying and how.

So it can help me on when i close my deal.

Part of it is certainly the processing fee on the card. Another part is the ability of a cardholder to reverse a card transaction within a short period of time. Around here deposit transactions by credit card are limited to $500.

NEWSFLASH - SCOOP - G8 FRESH OFF THE TRUCK!!! Stand by - I'm loading pictures!!!

I'm planning on trading my Mazda6, I should get about $6,000 as a trade. Going to Dealer this weekend.... :driving:

NEWSFLASH - SCOOP - G8 FRESH OFF THE TRUCK!!! Stand by - I'm loading pictures!!!
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More! http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/deanb60/G8%20at%20dealers/IMG00437.jpg

Well , I got a call from my dealer claiming they had the car I ordered , however when i got there , the car was a black G8GT 888 with premium package. I ordered a non 888 GT with premium and sport package. The dealer didn't believe me when I told him this wasn't the car I had tagged for me. I had to show him in the brochure what the 19" wheels looked like before he realized his car did not in fact have the sport package. He of course tried to sell me this one, including letting me drive it. Awesome handling and acceleration ( I took a few laps on a roundabout they had in the auto center at about 40) , and i'm definitely getting one ( He thinks the one I wanted was tagged, but he has to check tomorrow morning.) If not, Ill have to find another dealer. GM really has to train their salespeople better.

BTW, the instruction manual says 87 octane for both the V6 and the V8.

Just curious.. And might be interested, when the time comes...

Ray, as I said, check Tirerack.com, Goodyear Eagle F1 AS under size/price. I'm sure you could order them thru any Goodyear dealer or Discount Tire if you have them in your area. The size as I said is not exact, as Chief said, but is only one size smaller in profile, 245/35-19 verses 245/40-19. The shorter profile should not change the handling/feel of the ride a noticeable amount. And it will give you more room for snow in the wheel wells! HA HA HA

But then why can I go in a furniture store and buy $30,000 on a Visa if I wanted to? Could be a profit thing, not wanting to eat into it on the surcharges where other things, like furniture, have huge mark-ups. ..

This person answered his own question. Furniture has at least a 100% markup. A furniture dealer can absorb a 5% credit card discount and still make a lot of money. A lot of guys on this forum seem to think that if they can't buy a car at dealier invoice that they are getting screwed. I wonder if that attitude applies when they price whatever they are selling, be it merchandise or labor. These people have to make a living too. Auto markups are not much more than 5% now, not a lot of negotiating room, especially with a comodity that is in less supply than apparent demand.

:drool::yumyum:

Looks like someone made it into John Hine today.

Looks like someone made it into John Hine today.
Yep! they knew I was awaiting anxiously! These two are just off the truck. I went to Harrison Pontiac after that - they have 1 also. I'll post more pictures. I only had my Blackberry Pearl and there was lots of sun glare. I know everyone wanted to see them ASAP. I'm going there again tomorrow with the better camera and get some nicer shots on the showroom floor and outside.

:drool::yumyum:http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/deanb60/G8%20at%20dealers/

Click on the above link, but here's one picture for you to starthttp://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/deanb60/G8%20at%20dealers/IMG00436.jpg

Great pics man!! Thanks for posting.

You're welcome. I was sooooo excited! Had to share. I'll post more soon.

C'mon people, we've all waited this long, can we not wait another 4wks for the market to saturate? Everyone benefits. Spend ur time calling around, tell those dealers who are marking above MSRP they suck and move on. Look at the GM inventory, they're coming. Dealers are just taking advantage of a brief moment in time where they can take trips to the Bahamas on our backs.

Even more so if, like %80 of the ones I've talked too have offered no good info during the wait, mislead most of us by assuring them the options they wanted are "definately" there, only to pull what the car saleman in the movie "Vacation" did. From here on out, anyone who settles for the car they didn't want and what's more, pays over invoice, is hereby deemed a "ClarK". - - remember, "I know what musta happened......it didn't come in.....".

In a month you will be in an 888 not to ur spec and someone will pull up next to ya in their 8, FULLY LOADED, in their first choice of color. Your date will say, "wow, I the "insert color choice here" sure looks good, and are those different rims?, and "wow, I love sunroofs". You'll counter with, "ya, but mine's an 888". You'll explain it to her and she'll look at you very puzzled. Tell me for real that over the past few months you haven't explained the 888 thing to quite a few people. And besides us and the dealers, did they really act like it mattered? Now go on to tell her you gave them more money than what it really cost, to the tune of 2K, and bam!.........there's no real defense. It is what it is.

Spend the time. 1 out of every 5-6 that I talked to agreed to the MSRP over the phone and are willing to stick with it. Catch is, I may have to wait 3-4 weeks.

One salesperson told me today to wait, she disagreed with her salesmanagers decision to mark their only car up. She added that someone had called earlier and although he wanted a sunroof and the sport package in red, he offered without any provocation to buy their only car, an 888, in white, missing all the options he wanted. When she went to go talk to her manager about the proce, the guy told her, "don't tell your manager, but I'm willing to pay up to $2500 over sticker". She explained, good, bad or whatever, all dealers have bills and come to work to make money. She said as long as these people keep calling about the 888's and acting like this, the mark-ups will continue.

Enough said.

Obviously more than one born everyday!:nuts::gr_jest:

C'mon people, we've all waited this long, can we not wait another 4wks for the market to saturate? Everyone benefits. Spend ur time calling around, tell those dealers who are marking above MSRP they suck and move on. Look at the GM inventory, they're coming. Dealers are just taking advantage of a brief moment in time where they can take trips to the Bahamas on our backs.

Even more so if, like %80 of the ones I've talked too have offered no good info during the wait, mislead most of us by assuring them the options they wanted are "definately" there, only to pull what the car saleman in the movie "Vacation" did. From here on out, anyone who settles for the car they didn't want and what's more, pays over invoice, is hereby deemed a "ClarK". - - remember, "I know what musta happened......it didn't come in.....".

In a month you will be in an 888 not to ur spec and someone will pull up next to ya in their 8, FULLY LOADED, in their first choice of color. Your date will say, "wow, I the "insert color choice here" sure looks good, and are those different rims?, and "wow, I love sunroofs". You'll counter with, "ya, but mine's an 888". You'll explain it to her and she'll look at you very puzzled. Tell me for real that over the past few months you haven't explained the 888 thing to quite a few people. And besides us and the dealers, did they really act like it mattered? Now go on to tell her you gave them more money than what it really cost, to the tune of 2K, and bam!.........there's no real defense. It is what it is.

Spend the time. 1 out of every 5-6 that I talked to agreed to the MSRP over the phone and are willing to stick with it. Catch is, I may have to wait 3-4 weeks.

One salesperson told me today to wait, she disagreed with her salesmanagers decision to mark their only car up. She added that someone had called earlier and although he wanted a sunroof and the sport package in red, he offered without any provocation to buy their only car, an 888, in white, missing all the options he wanted. When she went to go talk to her manager about the proce, the guy told her, "don't tell your manager, but I'm willing to pay up to $2500 over sticker". She explained, good, bad or whatever, all dealers have bills and come to work to make money. She said as long as these people keep calling about the 888's and acting like this, the mark-ups will continue.

Enough said.

AMEN!

Here is 1 of 888... A V6! lol , they really screwed that one up!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1ST-EVER-PRODUCED-PONTIAC-G8-WE-HAVE-IT-IT-CAN-BE-YOURS_W0QQitemZ290212086390QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m290212086390

well for starters "all the options" you may want are not much to talk about. Teh only thing that the 888's are not coming with are sunroofs. there are only 2 packages that you can get to fully load this car so there is not much difference at all. Ill take an 888 in black as long as i get msrp!!.. or better.

Bottom line guys, this 888 thing, I think, is going to prove to be one of the most useless and pointless special edition ideas GM has ever had... It was all in the shipping ploy.... dealers were told to sell the 888's as quickley as possible so the demand for more was going to increas. Thats why all of our dealers in CA are getting only one or 2 at most... then we have to wait for the next wave... i say dont buy unless you get a good deal. Like someone else said .... wait and see.

:drool::yumyum:http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/deanb60/G8%20at%20dealers/

Click on the above link, but here's one picture for you to starthttp://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/deanb60/G8%20at%20dealers/IMG00436.jpg

Thanks for posting those - particularly the ones with the car on a lift
interesting to see the exhaust of a US spec G8!
- Ray
Ready to take some of my own...

Thanks for posting those - particularly the ones with the car on a lift
interesting to see the exhaust of a US spec G8!
- Ray
Ready to take some of my own...

Are they already in the shop for repairs??:eek2:

Can someone who knows exhaust please tell us what we're looking at? I see the exhaust exits into two cats first. Then the exhaust joins together into a resonator? Then they split apart and go into two small things, then they go into two mufflers. So, can somebody tell me what can legally be removed if I just wanted to make the stock exhaust better? I know cats and mufflers need to stay, but what about those other 3 things? Any decent muffler shop can remove the resonator and re-join the pipes.
Great pictures, thanks!

Both posts really.
I can't find anything to verify the initial statement.
[ Not disputing - just looking for a second ?? ]
And the fact that no A/S tires appear to exist today in that size...
??
- Ray
Just curious.. And might be interested, when the time comes...

Ray, my take that nobody today makes AllSeason tire in this size is from the lack thereof on two tire sites, tirerack, and dicounttires. The info on upcoming AllSeasons in 19's was from the same sneak peek within the dealer locator system for 2009 models. It does not mean that they will be immediately available, as just like codes for GXP, do not yet appear under 09 info on dealerworld.

C'mon people, we've all waited this long, can we not wait another 4wks for the market to saturate? Everyone benefits. Spend ur time calling around, tell those dealers who are marking above MSRP they suck and move on. Look at the GM inventory, they're coming. Dealers are just taking advantage of a brief moment in time where they can take trips to the Bahamas on our backs.

Even more so if, like %80 of the ones I've talked too have offered no good info during the wait, mislead most of us by assuring them the options they wanted are "definately" there, only to pull what the car saleman in the movie "Vacation" did. From here on out, anyone who settles for the car they didn't want and what's more, pays over invoice, is hereby deemed a "ClarK". - - remember, "I know what musta happened......it didn't come in.....".

In a month you will be in an 888 not to ur spec and someone will pull up next to ya in their 8, FULLY LOADED, in their first choice of color. Your date will say, "wow, I the "insert color choice here" sure looks good, and are those different rims?, and "wow, I love sunroofs". You'll counter with, "ya, but mine's an 888". You'll explain it to her and she'll look at you very puzzled. Tell me for real that over the past few months you haven't explained the 888 thing to quite a few people. And besides us and the dealers, did they really act like it mattered? Now go on to tell her you gave them more money than what it really cost, to the tune of 2K, and bam!.........there's no real defense. It is what it is.

Spend the time. 1 out of every 5-6 that I talked to agreed to the MSRP over the phone and are willing to stick with it. Catch is, I may have to wait 3-4 weeks.

One salesperson told me today to wait, she disagreed with her salesmanagers decision to mark their only car up. She added that someone had called earlier and although he wanted a sunroof and the sport package in red, he offered without any provocation to buy their only car, an 888, in white, missing all the options he wanted. When she went to go talk to her manager about the proce, the guy told her, "don't tell your manager, but I'm willing to pay up to $2500 over sticker". She explained, good, bad or whatever, all dealers have bills and come to work to make money. She said as long as these people keep calling about the 888's and acting like this, the mark-ups will continue.

Enough said.

Well said. Cars aren't comic books. I don't understand the fasination with the 888s.

I've always been taught not to even pay sticker. Only suckers pay sticker, yada yada yada. But I think that's different today, and really only applies to people buying commuter cars and those who don't do months worth of research or even really care what they drive. But still, paying anything over sticker is a crime. Not worth it....

Further research has found some all-seasons out there
Nanking NS II $153.00
http://www.wheelsnext.com/images//wheels/regular/NANKANG_NSII_TREAD.jpg
Michelin Pilot Sport $329.99
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/22001009/images/4/pilot_sport_a_s.jpg
Dunlop SP Sport 01 $446.99!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bubbrubb:
http://www.1010tires.com/images/tires/Dunlop/dunlop_spsport_1_lg.jpg

Yes I have a complete list of your options with that VIN :popcorn2:
What do you want to know? :angel:

-Greg

huh, for some reason i am not getting emails of new posts on this thread. can't find the option to turn it on. (Okay i think i just found the option:))
Greg- i want to know everything! what are the options? just want to make sure its what the dealer said was coming.

thanks!

Yep, that's me. More recently, I've become an admin over there.

When I get a G8... is still up in the air. I kinda waiting to see what 09's will offer. It'll have to be a GT, if not a GXP, depending on price. The ol' Bonny is here to stay, though. :)

I haven't approached a dealer about one yet. The local Pontiac dealership wouldn't let me test drive a GTO because "the people that buy them don't need a test drive"... I haven't been back.

Wish i still had my ol bonnie. :cry: Didnt have room for 3 cars at my pad. I would have waited for the '09s if i wasnt getting an 888. also, I am NOT paying 1 cent over sticker price for this 888. Dealer already reassured me.

Here is 1 of 888... A V6! lol , they really screwed that one up!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1ST-EVER-PRODUCED-PONTIAC-G8-WE-HAVE-IT-IT-CAN-BE-YOURS_W0QQitemZ290212086390QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m290212086390

No joke! Buy It Now price: US $34,765.00

I wonder why there are ZERO bids on it!

I ended up going back last night and closing the deal.. Don't hate me but i paid over MSRP... by $67! that was after adding a sunroof.. I will post some pics soon, probably in the lounge, the first few i only had my phone to take them so forgive the quality...

In WI, only cat-back systems are ok, unless the cat is bad. Why would you want to cut up a new exhaust anyway? I'm sure that would void the warranty if you had a problem down there. Demand is demand, and what we will pay. $67 is only a tank of gas nowadays anyway! I'm sure the hype on this board is helping drive prices up as we type!

In WI, only cat-back systems are ok, unless the cat is bad. Why would you want to cut up a new exhaust anyway? I'm sure that would void the warranty if you had a problem down there. Demand is demand, and what we will pay. $67 is only a tank of gas nowadays anyway! I'm sure the hype on this board is helping drive prices up as we type!

The warranty is only void w/ respect to the aftermarket parts and any failures directly attributable to the aftermarket parts. So if the new mufflers rust out early or melt the bumper that is your problem and GM is still responsible for everything else.

Well , my dealer called after I asked him to verify what exact options that he tagged for me, and he told me he couldn't find the list of what he tagged, 5 vehicles in total!

He also told me I should have taken the 888 he had , because another dealer was charging 10k over. I told him that dealer can drive it straight up his ass. I also told him that if he cant verify what he tagged for me by tomorrow afternoon, he is fired and i'm waiting for an 09 from another dealer. I'm also writing a letter to GM about their dealer issues if this falls through.I'll point them to this website so that they can see for themselves all the issues we have been having.

I don't know about the rest of you that haven't even got a clue as to when they are getting their G8s, but I would think that we should make it an Unwritten Rule that whenever a member gets "the call" and posts that info, they should be required to state their location, city/state and the dealers name. That way we can follow the progress of the cars as they filter out across the country, and know which dealers are attempting to gouge on the price by demanding a premium over MSRP! This would be a service to all those still waiting and those engaged in the buying process.:boink:

Why would you want to cut up a new exhaust anyway?

Because it can be a cheap way to reduce back pressure/improve sound. That's if those 3 devices between the cats and the mufflers do add restriction and can be legally removed. Some people just throw away/sell the factory exhaust from the cats back anyway when they purchase an aftermarket cat back.

I don't know about the rest of you that haven't even got a clue as to when they are getting their G8s, but I would think that we should make it an Unwritten Rule that whenever a member gets "the call" and posts that info, they should be required to state their location, city/state and the dealers name. That way we can follow the progress of the cars as they filter out across the country, and know which dealers are attempting to gouge on the price by demanding a premium over MSRP! This would be a service to all those still waiting and those engaged in the buying process.:boink:

Lancaster, CA. Rally BPG. Already drove an 888 GT, and they also got in a V6. They already sold the GT. He was charging MSRP.

The non-888s should be here in a few weeks. Everyone who tagged in Feb should have theirs no later than the first week of april.

Torson in Pasadena, CA also has a red 888 GT. Sport and Premium , black interior. I'd grab it myself if it was black!

Got "the call" this morning...details:

Black GT loaded
Price - $32,745 (MSRP)
Financing - 5.74% for 60 mos through LendingTree
Dealer's Response: Cars are in transit...(1 Red 888, 1 Black 888 and 1 Black GT) should be here in one to two weeks.
Location: Village Pontiac - Naperville, IL. (about 30 miles from Chicago)

I'm kinda torn on the MSRP deal. I haven't purchased enough cars to know Invoice vs GSP vs MSRP or whatever the acronyms are, but I know I've never paid MSRP ever. With that said. I do know that I spoke to 4 dealerships and none of the are selling these for under MSRP right now.

Looking at the numbers, if I can save $1000 by working a deal, it only cuts my payment down by $20/mo. Yeah, I know that I'm paying like $1165 for that extra $1000, but for $20/mo. and $1165 over 5 years, it just seems worth it to me to get rid of my busted up GTP and move into something nicer. That's just me though.

Mike

People just don't get it... rebates, buying at invoice, sales plans (A and X plan for Fords) all serve to devalue the vehicle and hurt it's resale.

You don't see Honda offering jack crap to help move their cars unless it's a smaller interest rate (almost always short term 36 month loans) or tiny rebates on harder to move models. I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey with only 62k on the clock I could private party sell for 12-14k still...

and my Mini... my god... I paid 23,500 new, and could sell it now all day long for 17-18k after 4.5 years! I've never heard of a Mini owner buying for less than $500 under MSRP. No wonder residual value is so high! I like that I paid MSRP for the car... and so did everyone else. It's fair to everyone that way, and it helps keep the value high.

Now my Mustang, a whole other story... you lose HALF just driving off the lot.


I hope G8's will remain lower production, and people will just pay something close to MSRP, and stick with it. It'll keep it worth far more down the road. Anyone paying over MSRP is a damn fool.

Drob - what would your payments be per month at that price point?

I don't know about the rest of you that haven't even got a clue as to when they are getting their G8s, but I would think that we should make it an Unwritten Rule that whenever a member gets "the call" and posts that info, they should be required to state their location, city/state and the dealers name. That way we can follow the progress of the cars as they filter out across the country, and know which dealers are attempting to gouge on the price by demanding a premium over MSRP! This would be a service to all those still waiting and those engaged in the buying process.:boink:

great idea.

My delaer:
I10 Pontiac GMC Buick, are on the Ten freeway, Indio So cal... in the Palm Springs area.
This dealr wanted 5K over MSRP... they also auto add all their sh$t in to make the off the lot price like 41K... !!!!!!!?????????
I can get them down to MSRP though.

The still have their 888 Mag grey. Sport+ Prem.

I like the wheels!!, not sure about the colour!??!?!!

I don't know about the rest of you that haven't even got a clue as to when they are getting their G8s, but I would think that we should make it an Unwritten Rule that whenever a member gets "the call" and posts that info, they should be required to state their location, city/state and the dealers name. That way we can follow the progress of the cars as they filter out across the country, and know which dealers are attempting to gouge on the price by demanding a premium over MSRP! This would be a service to all those still waiting and those engaged in the buying process.:boink:


Sounds like we need a whole new section titled "Dealer Experiences"

great idea.

My delaer:
I10 Pontiac GMC Buick, are on the Ten freeway, Indio So cal... in the Palm Springs area.
This dealr wanted 5K over MSRP... they also auto add all their sh$t in to make the off the lot price like 41K... !!!!!!!?????????
I can get them down to MSRP though.

The still have their 888 Mag grey. Sport+ Prem.

I like the wheels!!, not sure about the colour!??!?!!

Interesting...
I live near Atlanta - and no dealer near me has 1 yet.
( "Coming - soon..." )
But I am flying to SoCal & attending a conference -
in
Palm Desert - near Palm Springs...
Perhaps I will 'drop in' on that Dealer while I am there...
- Ray
Drive a new G8 back across country????

Sounds like we need a whole new section titled "Dealer Experiences"

Agreed.
And a FAQ section \ thread...
- Ray
Happy to help with the FAQ write-ups...

I had a dealer in Parma, OH call me yesterday to say his 1st 888 is coming in at the end of the month.
Liquid Red, premium and sport package. He said he is selling it 2k over list. I told him I'd like to see the car but I wasn't going to pay over list for a tag on the dash.

While few of us here would pay over MSRP, unfortunately there are some unusual circumstances that allow dealers to gouge prospective buyers. First, highly limited availability. Second, brand new car. Third, getting excellent if not rave reviews by everyone, including C&D who seem to dislike anything from U.S. manufacturers. Fourth, few if any opportunities to custom order one. Fifth, the car, as a package, really is worth more than MSRP to those who appreciate it. And last, dealers are independent to try and make as much as they possibly can on each sale, if they wish. Then throw in the prospective buyers who make the big bucks on the coasts who make outrageous incomes who can buy a G8 GT for a spare M5, A8 or AMG for the wife to haul groceries in, and you get just enough buyers to keep a few dealers smiling and trying to pick our pockets.

Personally, unless you absolutely NEED a car right NOW, and your dealer jacked the price over sticker, I'd walk and wait it out. I'd also consider another dealer who asks for a fair profit. There is only about$1,700 difference between MSRP and "dealer invoice" on these cars (depending on options), plus some other hidden incentives we seldom see. So they'll make maybe $2,000+ on a MSRP deal, plus they get a kickback on financing if you use GMAC, plus they always make $1,000 or more on your trade if you have one. Add $$$ to MSRP, and they are losing customers down the road because people know they're greedy, and there is no reason not to believe they won't gouge you on the next deal, either. Point out that the U.S. economy is going down the tubes, that rising gas prices will put more pressure on economy (4 cylinder, 2000 lb. cars with stick shifts or big batteries with electric motors) and that you can't pay a dime more than MSRP. Give them your business card if you still think you want to buy from them, and tell 'em to call when they can't sell any more. My dealer said he would put $4,000 on the sticker on the showfloor if I refuse his MSRP deal to me. I don't think he'll get that here in this area of the rural midwest, and maybe he'll tell everyone the same thing he told me and sell 'em all at MSRP to make everyone think he's doing them a favor.

^well said

I have talked to several dealers in the Phoenix Metro area that said they are not going to price it over MSRP. One dealer has 4 on the way and can tag 5 more. Does anyone know if the A6 09 G8's will have any significant improvements drivetrain wise?

Also, my first post. Been lurking for about a week. Just in time to trade my wifes 05' Altima for something new. Thought about a TBSS but this car would work alot better.

I'm gonna start checking out dealers around here when it starts to get a little warmer out.

How many more different topics can this thread possibly have. Come on guys, you're acting like idiots - settle down and follow the forum rules. STAY ON TOPIC. This thread is about G8 Shipping to dealers. If you want to talk about exhaust, go to that thread. If you want to talk about what deal you got, there's a thread for that too. Geez. Where are the moderators....must be asleep at the wheel.

On the car that is shipping to my dealer (I want to make sure I stay on topic) that I'm going to purchase...I'm going to put about $6,000 down to get my payment down to about $535/mo. It's about $75 higher than my last car payment, but to get that, I'd need to put down $10,000 which I'm not willing to do. I'm also basing this on a $1,000 trade-in which I don't know that I'll get. My GTP has 136K miles and is in need of some body and suspension work. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Hope this helps.

Mike

How many more different topics can this thread possibly have. Come on guys, you're acting like idiots - settle down and follow the forum rules. STAY ON TOPIC. This thread is about G8 Shipping to dealers. If you want to talk about exhaust, go to that thread. If you want to talk about what deal you got, there's a thread for that too. Geez. Where are the moderators....must be asleep at the wheel.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i110/PMDGTO/girlsassylarge.gif

:bootyshake:

Magnetic Grey GT sport/premium package on showroom floor.
Fresno Ca. Kitahara Pontiac

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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah !!!!

:drink:My butt itches.

Thanks for posting those - particularly the ones with the car on a lift
interesting to see the exhaust of a US spec G8!
- Ray
Ready to take some of my own...
I went back Friday and they're on display now. One in the showroom looking good. I took pictures. See album for updates.
http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/deanb60/G8%20at%20dealers/

only a $3995 markup... :barf:

only a $3995 markup...

Man, I guess they want them to sit around a little bit.:rolleyes:

I tell them they can sell it to me for MSRP now, or GMS -rebates later.

I am in management for a large dealership chain that has one of largest Pontiac stores in the tri-state area and I have been promised the first test drive of the first one to hit the store. I have been driving the sales dept. (especially my saleman) crazy. I know 10 times as much as any of them, and I have just scratched the surface. I can't wait!:thumbsup:

Could this be the best Pontiac ever or what?

Nice range of pictures dean!!!!

The salesman at my local Pontiac dealer called yesterday to say they finally had a G8 in for me to look at up close and test drive. It was was their 888 car, which is only a V6 so I'm not interested in buying it. They knew it but wanted me to drive the car anyway.

I liked the drive, but not the performance (as expected from a V6). I liked the red color, but my wife doesn't, so I will have to find one in black or grey. I also liked most of the interior, except for a few nits; the volts/oil gauge on top of the dash is very cheap looking, the cupholders in the rear seat are STUPID (you have to open the trunk pass-thru to use them), the manual seat back angle adjusters are a disappointment, and I would be very concerned about the central window/mirror switches being right in front of the cupholders (risk of getting wet).

Now I just have to wait for their GTs to arrive. And they even said they would sell at the GM Supplier discount.

I'm not sure why everyone gets excited about cupholders which have apparently become an international joke about American car buyers (mine has more than yours...). I've never seen a really good place to put cupholders in a moving vehicle. You spill 'em in your door panel, your center console, your ashtray, and you gotta clean 'em up 'cause you're driving too fast or the streets are too bumpy. And you guys that swear by slushboxes even have a free hand all the time, so you can count that as one more. :oldfogey: But forgive me, I'm off topic.

My dealer(s) are off the Kansas City today and tomorrow to get their sales indoctrination on the G8. They are supposed to be getting invoices on the 2nd wave, which will give some good shipping date estimates. Other than that, nothing here in the middle of the country, 'cause we ain't got no big city dealers with acres of cars.

I am in management for a large dealership chain that has one of largest Pontiac stores in the tri-state area and I have been promised the first test drive of the first one to hit the store. I have been driving the sales dept. (especially my saleman) crazy. I know 10 times as much as any of them, and I have just scratched the surface. I can't wait!:thumbsup:


What dealership is that?

Man, I guess they want them to sit around a little bit.:rolleyes:


You know, that might not be such a bad theory. They may try to keep them on the floor just to bring people in and then try and sell them a G6.

Sort of like going to a chevy dealer to look at the new vettes and then buying a malibu.

only a $3995 markup... :barf:

makes me want to run right out and plop some dough down to buy one :nonono:

GM finally updated their website to include the G8 within the actual Pontiac site. Has some more information on the car, but nothing people in this forum don't already know:

http://www.pontiac.com/g8/

GM finally updated their website to include the G8 within the actual Pontiac site. Has some more information on the car, but nothing people in this forum don't already know:

http://www.pontiac.com/g8/

You can't locate a G8 yet either. I did sign up for the "8 for the road" give away though.

DROVE IT!!! Very impressive. The exhaust is q...u...i...e...t:zzz: Handles awesome and has good pull to it.

This one had the sport & premium package- but just as everyone already knows- no sunroof(888's)

Dealer wanted me to take it, willing to dip under MSRP. But I would rather have a sunroof than an 888#. It was the right color-magnetic grey, but I also would like the onyx/red leather interior which this one didn't have.

Which now leads me to this quote......

You can't locate a G8 yet either.

Untrue. The GM tried to locate the package I want, but came up with only 888's right now at most of the nearby lots. If you want an 888 they can locate it for you.

But for me I went $500.00 deposit and the GM was cool enough to let me build one on DEALERWORLD (his account, saw everything) in which once one shows up he'll tag it for me. (No special orders on G8's, you get what they build & ship) Fully loaded @ $32,7xx (?) invoice is $1,377.xx less. As of right now they said they'll go 1,000 over INVOICE without even batting an eye.

Not the best deal in the world but a good sign that we aren't going to be totally gouged.

Now I'm just in a race to sell an '03 Cobra and '00 SS Camaro vert So I can "simplify"

That's great to hear about a dealer already going under MSRP. That's the way it's supposed to be. Enjoy your shopping!

Untrue. The GM tried to locate the package I want, but came up with only 888's right now at most of the nearby lots. If you want an 888 they can locate it for you.

Of course the dealer can locate; he was talking about locating one off the Pontiac website. Still can't do that.

Looks like us in the New England Area will need to wait until April to get a G8. I went to Hurd Pontiac here in Rhode Island and found out they they are going to have the Dealer Ride & Drive in the first week in April. The sales guy I spoke to felt it might be a few weeks after that they'll have their two GT on the lot. I hope he's wrong.

Dealer emailed and said:

Hi Eric!

These are the first 2 G8's due in...

GT Sedan in White Hot with Onyx Leather with the premium package and A/S tires(one of the first 888 special series)

GT Sedan in Panther Black with Onyx Leather with the premium package, A/S tires and Sunroof.

Have a great day!

Chris Bohdan
Internet Sales Manager
Kemper Pontiac-Cadillac-Buick
300 Finderne Ave & Route 22 East
Bridgewater, NJ 08807-3098


woopie!!!!

DROVE IT!!! Very impressive. The exhaust is q...u...i...e...t:zzz: Handles awesome and has good pull to it.

This one had the sport & premium package- but just as everyone already knows- no sunroof(888's)

Dealer wanted me to take it, willing to dip under MSRP. But I would rather have a sunroof than an 888#. It was the right color-magnetic grey, but I also would like the onyx/red leather interior which this one didn't have.



Where is this car? That would be the perfect car for me!

Where is this car? That would be the perfect car for me!

Fresno, California

Where is this car? That would be the perfect car for me!

Shoot, Rosebud/Lott , TX, use to buy boots there...you might want to check Waco or Dallas as closer than Cal...Dealer down this way said EOM maybe sooner but EOM according to their GM system..? Would just like to sit in one!

Damn Californians with your big tittied broads, warm weather and sandy beaches.


and all the g8's in america

Damn Californians with your big tittied broads, warm weather and sandy beaches.


and all the g8's in america

lol

Fresno, California

Just my luck. Maybe one will show up in central Texas one of these days....

Shoot, Rosebud/Lott , TX, use to buy boots there...you might want to check Waco or Dallas as closer than Cal...Dealer down this way said EOM maybe sooner but EOM according to their GM system..? Would just like to sit in one!

Yep! I used to buy boots in Lott also.... There is a dealer in Killeen that is supposed to get 3 G8 GT's. None in gray.... Only red, black and white. I might have to look at the red one....

Just called the Killeen dealer (Patriot). He said "the next week or two". I can't tell you how many times I have heard that. I ship things all over the world everyday, of which they all can be tracked down to exactly where they are at any given time. Why can't GM or any other MFG do the same for their product.

I am usually a patient person but come on, enough is enough.

Just called the Killeen dealer (Patriot). He said "the next week or two". I can't tell you how many times I have heard that. I ship things all over the world everyday, of which they all can be tracked down to exactly where they are at any given time. Why can't GM or any other MFG do the same for their product.

I am usually a patient person but come on, enough is enough.

"The next week or two" = we really don't know!

They're borrowing construction terms.

When will my house be done? "Two weeks". :)

Just called the Killeen dealer (Patriot). He said "the next week or two". I can't tell you how many times I have heard that. I ship things all over the world everyday, of which they all can be tracked down to exactly where they are at any given time. Why can't GM or any other MFG do the same for their product.

I am usually a patient person but come on, enough is enough.

Agreed. I talked to a dealer today and they were supposed to get their g8s in on the 3rd. They told me "they should show up any minute". C'mon just stop lying and track it!

dealer called today and told me they recieved their g8's. (grapevine tx) so I went to check em out and let me just say the car is amazing. I had to wait about an hour to get my hands on it because they had just got it off the car. When they first pulled it up I was supeized how short the car was, in my head I pictured it to be much longer. The matalic gray is also much darker than I thought which I liked. The interior is done really well. The sport steering wheel has a really nice grip to it and doesn't look like it Would wear too fast. Now the actual drive was the highlight, at normal speeds the engine is very quiet you can barely hear it and the sterio wasn't on, also noticed that in second gear would keep a constant 35 at about 1100 rpm which is nice for regular streets. Now when you put your foot down you can definatly feel that tourqe and the 0-60 time is pretty acurate. The handling is very nice was supeized on the turn ratio the car has. A few other things I noticed are that the onstar antenna isn't that big it was sitting in the storage compartment in the center console when it arrived. Sorry for not paragraphing typed this up on the iPod, hopfully picking it up tomorrow if so I'll be posting some pics.

Just heard from my dealer. My black GT 888 arrived today and I will be picking it up tomorrow (NW Indiana, Chicago)

Finally got to see one at a Phoenix dealer yesterday. It was black on black w/ the sport package, and no major markup except maybe 1k-ish. It was very tempting to try and get it yesterday but they said no deals until this summer. They offer very close to employee pricing through my work so the wait will be worth it.

According to GMBuyPower my G8 GT has arrived at my dealer:thumbsup:

So why hasn't my dealer called me?:cursin:

This past Saturday night I seen a Stealth Blue Sedan in Novi, Michigan with a regular license plate but it had a small sticker on the windsheild that said "Certified Test Vehicle". I have been waiting for the G8 GT for over a year and I must say that I was not impressed. Yeah it was dirty from all of the salt, and it wasnt a GT, but it looked plane and SHORT! I was expecting it to be a little longer, and it actullay looked pretty good when I seen it at the Auto Show back in January. And on top of that one dealership told me that it will be a little over $500 with $3000 down on a 36 mo. lease and 12000 miles per. I told him that I can get a STS for that price you C*ck sucker, so BEAT IT!

Dealer in southern Indianapolis got their Black on Black today. I went and looked at it, it is really nice, but it is one of the the first 888 to dealers all numbered. The list price is $31,415,00, sales price $41,415.00. Yep they marked it up $10,000. I told them I wasn't interested and will wait and order mine. The owner talked with me, and said at this time you will not be able to order one. They are all prebuilt, and listed on GM web site so dealers can select the cars they want, that come closest to the one you would order. So at this time the way I understand it, is no individual orders, just tell the salesman what you would like, and hopefully they can find one that is an exact match or close to it ???????????????????????????????????

Nice range of pictures dean!!!!
Thanks, I appreciate that. They're going to call me when more colors show up. Stay tuned.:patriot:

The salesman at my local Pontiac dealer called yesterday to say they finally had a G8 in for me to look at up close and test drive. It was was their 888 car, which is only a V6 so I'm not interested in buying it. They knew it but wanted me to drive the car anyway.

I liked the drive, but not the performance (as expected from a V6). I liked the red color, but my wife doesn't, so I will have to find one in black or grey. I also liked most of the interior, except for a few nits; the volts/oil gauge on top of the dash is very cheap looking, the cupholders in the rear seat are STUPID (you have to open the trunk pass-thru to use them), the manual seat back angle adjusters are a disappointment, and I would be very concerned about the central window/mirror switches being right in front of the cupholders (risk of getting wet).

Now I just have to wait for their GTs to arrive. And they even said they would sell at the GM Supplier discount.

I recommend John Hine Pontiac in Mission Valley - they have at least 2 black GTs with the sport pkg and they're both first 888 cars. Check my pictures - that's them. 1 is on the showroom floor. See Brian Anderson, tell him Dean sent you.

These dealers who are marking up over MSRP need to wake up to the credit crunch reality and start enjoying paying floor plan interest. In my part of the country, there were law suits against gasoline stations for price fixing a year or two ago. I can't help but think that Pontiac would like to know about such outrageous practices. Perhaps if you went in to the dealer and asked for the phone number of the area representative and gave him/her a call complaining that people are buying this car at MSRP elsewhere. They can't do much because it's a dealer choice, but you can put in a complaint against the dealership. Tell them the cars are in short supply, there was a lot of hype, you're ready to buy, Pontiac gave a reasonable-profit MSRP and you don't like it and will either not buy anything, or buy something else from another manufacturer. If enough people raise hell about this, Pontiac may have some influence. At least they need to know you are very unhappy with their dealer practices. :damnyou:

They are all prebuilt, and listed on GM web site so dealers can select the cars they want, that come closest to the one you would order. So at this time the way I understand it, is no individual orders, just tell the salesman what you would like, and hopefully they can find one that is an exact match or close to it ???????????????????????????????????

This is correct. There is only about 6 different ways you can "order" the car. There is no menu of 40 different options to pick from, so there is no way to configure the car exactly how you want it. You can only TAG the car with the option packages most closely resembling what you want. This will most likely remain the case until production moves to Canada..which may never happen.

However as I mentioned before, there are a couple of dealers selling G8's on e-bay at Sticker Price. For any dealer trying to mark one up, just show him that auction and tell him you are going to walk if he doesn't sell for MSRP or less.

Dealer in southern Indianapolis got their Black on Black today. I went and looked at it, it is really nice, but it is one of the the first 888 to dealers all numbered. The list price is $31,415,00, sales price $41,415.00. Yep they marked it up $10,000. I told them I wasn't interested and will wait and order mine. The owner talked with me, and said at this time you will not be able to order one. They are all prebuilt, and listed on GM web site so dealers can select the cars they want, that come closest to the one you would order. So at this time the way I understand it, is no individual orders, just tell the salesman what you would like, and hopefully they can find one that is an exact match or close to it ???????????????????????????????????

What the hell? What dealer is that?

Having once worked in the car business, I still have a lot of friends who do. I will always remember some of the most successful people in the business telling me that the way to build a satisfying career and a profitable business is to not think about selling one car to a customer, but rather 15 cars to a customer over his/her lifetime. If you take advantage of customers by charging more than a fair and reasonable price, you can't be looking at the long term potential.

Dealers who put over a 30% mark-up above MSRP, (which already has a fair margin built in) are greedy opportunistic pigs who should be out of business. :mad::fawkdance:

This past Saturday night I seen a Stealth Blue Sedan in Novi, Michigan with a regular license plate but it had a small sticker on the windsheild that said "Certified Test Vehicle". I have been waiting for the G8 GT for over a year and I must say that I was not impressed. Yeah it was dirty from all of the salt, and it wasnt a GT, but it looked plane and SHORT! I was expecting it to be a little longer, and it actullay looked pretty good when I seen it at the Auto Show back in January. And on top of that one dealership told me that it will be a little over $500 with $3000 down on a 36 mo. lease and 12000 miles per. I told him that I can get a STS for that price you C*ck sucker, so BEAT IT!

I can't believe that someone with your command of the English language and public speaking ability could ever be able to earn enough money to have either a G8 or a STS. You need a tutor.

:bootyshake:

These dealers who are marking up over MSRP need to wake up to the credit crunch reality and start enjoying paying floor plan interest. In my part of the country, there were law suits against gasoline stations for price fixing a year or two ago. I can't help but think that Pontiac would like to know about such outrageous practices. Perhaps if you went in to the dealer and asked for the phone number of the area representative and gave him/her a call complaining that people are buying this car at MSRP elsewhere. They can't do much because it's a dealer choice, but you can put in a complaint against the dealership. Tell them the cars are in short supply, there was a lot of hype, you're ready to buy, Pontiac gave a reasonable-profit MSRP and you don't like it and will either not buy anything, or buy something else from another manufacturer. If enough people raise hell about this, Pontiac may have some influence. At least they need to know you are very unhappy with their dealer practices. :damnyou:

For your information, the "S" in MSRP stands for suggested, and nothing else. Dealers set the price based on their cost and the perceived demand for their product. If that happens to agree with MSRP, that's fine. If not, that is still their option. Don't take it personally, just take your business down the road.

Have non-888 G8s been arriving at dealerships yet?

Have non-888 G8s been arriving at dealerships yet?

This morning I saw 2 non 888's pop up on GM Buypower for my local area. Yesterday there were 3 and they were all 888's.

My guess is that once the cars leave Benecia they get invoiced and then get placed on GM buypower.

Unfortunately neither of them are the one I tagged.:cursin:

My local dealer seems to be slated to get a red non-888 GT, premium package, sunroof, and all season tires, but they haven't received it yet.

I got a call from a dealer in Anaheim CA. yesterday who had just received a black on black GT with both packages and a sunroof. This same dealer received two 888's last wednesday so the non 888's look to be shipping along the same pattern as the 888's did.

Damn Californians with your big tittied broads, warm weather and sandy beaches.


and all the g8's in america

yeah! and some of the nations highest gas prices too!:bomb:

I found one in a show room.

The dealer is west of Indianapolis, IN

Dugan Chevrolet, Pontiac
Avon, IN 46123
1-888-745-6444
Michael J. is the salesman I talked to.

I think it's a Black on Black and it is an 888. Number 291 to be specific.

Going up Saturday to look at it, if it is still there.

RACINE, WIS, IN THE LAST HOUR. They said it will be available for test drives in a couple of hours. It's the ignition orange, GT, 888.

Atlanta has them now. Just saw the black, orange and white GT models. The car has a very nice ride and is really quiet. At WOT the engine noise over powers the exhaust. At cruise there is little to no exhaust noise. The back seat area is cave like. With the fronts all the way back I had about 3 inches between the seat back and my knees (i'm 6'). With 3 people in the car it planted and went without wheel spin when floored. The dash and controls are my only criticism. Its better than most domestics, but far from Japanese or European cars. The KnightRider LED display is really cheesy. WTF is GM thinking? The car looks great in person particulary with the sport wheels. Right know there's about 20 coming into the Atlanta area. Most already have deposits on them or are already sold.

St Louis, MO

Lou Fusz Pontiac has their first one (I believe) on the lot. An "888" GT, #52. It's already sold awaiting it's happy owner to get off work and pick it up. Sales dude says they've got, "like 5 more on the way, I think a few of them are stil available".

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St Louis, MO

Lou Fusz Pontiac has their first one (I believe) on the lot. An "888" GT, #52. It's already sold awaiting it's happy owner to get off work and pick it up. Sales dude says they've got, "like 5 more on the way, I think a few of them are stil available".

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Wow! I'm near Lou Fusz :bootyshake:

I may have to test drive one soon....though we all know what that'll lead to!

Atlanta has them now. Just saw the black, orange and white GT models. The car has a very nice ride and is really quiet. At WOT the engine noise over powers the exhaust. At cruise there is little to no exhaust noise. The back seat area is cave like. With the fronts all the way back I had about 3 inches between the seat back and my knees (i'm 6'). With 3 people in the car it planted and went without wheel spin when floored. The dash and controls are my only criticism. Its better than most domestics, but far from Japanese or European cars. The KnightRider LED display is really cheesy. WTF is GM thinking? The car looks great in person particulary with the sport wheels. Right know there's about 20 coming into the Atlanta area. Most already have deposits on them or are already sold. Cool ! I hope to see one on the way home today. You know of any dealers between Smyrna and Dacula that have one?

dealer called today and told me they recieved their g8's. (grapevine tx) ....

Interesting. My guy has told me the end of the month. I called and left a voicemail, we will see what he has to say. If DFW is getting them, then it would make sense that Houston is getting them.

No one has one delivered yet?

The first G8 owner that faxes the closed retail deal paperwork to Pedders USA will be awarded a Pedders Track II System complete with installation at the nearest Pedders Dealership.

http://peddersusa.com/Pontiac%20G8%20Zeta.htm

Pedders USA FAX: 1.248.522.8165

Fine Print: We will verify the purchase through the closing Pontiac Dealer. Dealers, Shops, Tuners, thier employees, family members and pets are excluded form this promotion. It is for a normal everyday I don't make my living in the car business or aftermarket Pontiac G8 owner. Final decision is solely the judgement of Justice Pete.

Dan, Carl Black in Kennesaw has the 3. Only the white GT was free. They have 7 more on order including a blue. I think Lou Sobh in Lithia Springs unloaded a white one today.

My sales rep (Nancy McCoy) at Classic Pontiac GMC in Arlington, TX called me to check out the two G8's they just recieved. Both cars are 888's with the sport package and they are awesome! Pics do not do these cars justice!

Anhow, they have bolt on axlebacks and a resonator so I will be developing an H-pipe and performance axlebacks for the G8 just like I did for the GTO's. Anyone who buys one of these can get a free axleback set along with a free H-pipe in exhange for using their G8 to develope these items.

One car is Black, the other is White and as soon as I figure out how to post camera phone pics I'll add them.

S.F.

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You guys are making me drool! The Magnetic Gray is looking classy. Mine is on the way.

No one has one delivered yet?

The first G8 owner that faxes the closed retail deal paperwork to Pedders USA will be awarded a Pedders Track II System complete with installation at the nearest Pedders Dealership.

http://peddersusa.com/Pontiac%20G8%20Zeta.htm

Pedders USA FAX: 1.248.522.8165

Fine Print: We will verify the purchase through the closing Pontiac Dealer. Dealers, Shops, Tuners, thier employees, family members and pets are excluded form this promotion. It is for a normal everyday I don't make my living in the car business or aftermarket Pontiac G8 owner. Final decision is solely the judgement of Justice Pete.


I didn't see anything on their site that advertised this. Point me in the right direction if u could, I got paper!

The only cars being delivered are apparently to those dealers who "qualify" for the 888s. My dealer's tags are for the next run, with sunroofs on at least one of his 2 tags. He was in KC Tuesday 3-11 for an intro and drive, and said not one of the dealers there had any yet, so those may be the 2nd run dealers, not the big lots. No invoices yet, and hence no delivery time estimates.

RACINE, WIS, IN THE LAST HOUR. They said it will be available for test drives in a couple of hours. It's the ignition orange, GT, 888.

This sucks! I can't believe that there is a G8 in Racine, WI, before we see one here in Madison, WI. Maybe it's a good thing that I won't see it. I am dying for the Ignition Orange, but I am really waiting for a manual transmission and/or GXP. By then there will be no more Ignition Orange which really sucks!

Word is there will be one in Fond Du Lac shortly. One of the 888 and was to be over MSRP. They have backed down from that.

My local dealership today said they'd have a red 888 GT with 18's, leather (sport or premium?), and A/S tires next week. No markup.

Patiently waiting for them to arrive in N.C.

You can now search on Auto Trader for the G8.

RACINE, WIS, IN THE LAST HOUR. They said it will be available for test drives in a couple of hours. It's the ignition orange, GT, 888.


Yes it is there saw it yesterday @ 5:30 prior to clean up. It is Orange, Preamium Package. Yes and believe it or not I turned down a chance to drive it. I did find out if you take out the tire inflator and its holder you can fit a full sized spare in the trunk. Not sure about a jack and wrench but at least the tire.

J Wikoff, which dealer are you referring to? Norton? I've heard about 10 different dates from them, haha. Just the other day, they said 2 weeks, the week before, they said any day. I ended up getting my hads on one from a dealer up in Peru (Black GT 888). I got to fustrated with the 2 dealers around here and just ended up going with the other dealer since they called 1st!! Anyways, if you see me poking around East Peoria in a black GT, thats me!

Non 888's are showing up in So Cal... no word on mine

cant wait to get my gt or gxp in silver for 09 or 10!!! The wait is going to be hard though....

J Wikoff, which dealer are you referring to? Norton? I've heard about 10 different dates from them, haha. Just the other day, they said 2 weeks, the week before, they said any day. I ended up getting my hads on one from a dealer up in Peru (Black GT 888). I got to fustrated with the 2 dealers around here and just ended up going with the other dealer since they called 1st!! Anyways, if you see me poking around East Peoria in a black GT, thats me!


You've got me jealous...

It was Norton. The salesmen went to his desk and grabbed a sheet of paper that said the Red 888 GT was in transit and should be here next week. And he said possibly the week after "the way things go around here".

I'm looking at this one later today.
6G2EC57Y98L988595 Red GT

I called today to check with the dealer I told you about that had one of the 888 G8's for $10,000 over list. Yep they sold it !!!!!!! One guy wanted to be the first to own one so he bought it. Boy in less than 2 years that guy will be really sorry when there are several on lots and not selling as well as now. Same thing happened to PT Cruisers when they first came out, after numbers caught up with the demand, people who paid the premium over sticker were very sorry. They ended up losing upwards of $9000. the first year over what they paid. I am going to wait until hype is over, I will guess within the second year they will have rebates on them. Due to the economy and gas prices,it may not take that long. I will play the waiting game !!!!!!!

Well...our GT came in....Im in Huntsville Alabama. Car is nice...looks better then the pics Ive seen...Drives real nice too...hate the small mirrors. Its an 888 so no sunroof....we are taking care of that....anyway... it was worth the wait...Dealership was great...easy to deal with....paid MSRP. Took some pics but I cant figure out how to post them here...

Hope you all get yours soon!

Congratulations! Glad to see them arriving in the South. Waiting to look at a couple and go for a test drive when they arrive in Augusta, GA.

They also wanted about $4K over sticker ($2500 dealer markup, $1200 "package", and $100?) for the one in Racine, and it was #866.

I called today to check with the dealer I told you about that had one of the 888 G8's for $10,000 over list. Yep they sold it !!!!!!! One guy wanted to be the first to own one so he bought it. Boy in less than 2 years that guy will be really sorry when there are several on lots and not selling as well as now. Same thing happened to PT Cruisers when they first came out, after numbers caught up with the demand, people who paid the premium over sticker were very sorry. They ended up losing upwards of $9000. the first year over what they paid. I am going to wait until hype is over, I will guess within the second year they will have rebates on them. Due to the economy and gas prices,it may not take that long. I will play the waiting game !!!!!!!

HOLY CRAP! You mean to tell me that there were dumbasses who paid $9,000 over for a glorified Neon? Jesus, had the first retail PT been sold at Barrett Jackson for $500,000 earlier that year?

The one thing I have learned in my 58 years, is there is a buyer for everything. You may have to wait a while, but there will be someone
out there that just has to have it right now, and will pay anything to get it. Now the funny thing is, the guy who paid $41,000 for his G8 GT, is going to be really sorry. The dealer just got another G8 equipped exactly
the same,and from what the owner told me will deal on it. How much is anybody's guess, but someone just paid $10,000 over MSRP for one of the first 888. If it was me, I would be sick !!!!! In all likelyhood, I am going to wait on the G8 GXP, coming out this fall. I like what it has to offer in the way of performance.

Be cool, sit on your hands, and wait it out. Once the initial feeding frenzy is over and shipments begin to catch up to demand (which will be depressed due to the credit crunch, inflation, gas prices and the economy in general), dealers will take those markups off when floor plan interest begins to apply and they're stuck with an overpriced car on the showfloor while their competitors are selling at sticker. There are a lot of dealers selling for MSRP so don't encourage outrageous prices. Do your homework, shop around and get some promises for a phone call or early refusal on incoming cars.

I told one salesman that when I buy any "big ticket" item, I never even pay asking price, so he should be grateful I'm offering MSRP. When was the last time you looked at buying a house and then told the real estate agent you'd pay asking price for it? If you did, I have some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in ..... The cars will be here, and you might even get an '09 with the updates if you can be patient.

MIike Haddad just took me out in his 888 Red GT. Very nice, vastly superior to the GTO in OE trim. It is a multi-generation leap in chassis development. Next week we'll get started on Pedderising Mike's GTO.

Congratulations Mike -- you beat me to owning a G8!

I think I'm forth or fifth
Just got mine this morning
Vin number
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Gray but I swear it looks like its black

Faster than I thought a car would ever bee. I have to be carful though I want to jam on the engine, I got to let it break in though

I will post pics later

For all we know the guy who paid $41k has a ton of money and doesn't care? I'm sure he knows what he was getting into. The owner of the dealer I bought mine was buying one to add to his collection...I don't get that either, but oh well!

A dealer here in Knoxville TN got a base G8 V6 in earlier this week and has all sorts of markups, including over 1,000 for a protection package and 3,000 for the "first 888" package. The thing was stickered out to over 34k. Nice, huh?

This one made me laugh.

Found two GT's, one red and still, apparently, for sale. The second black and being prepped for delivery that day.

The red one had this sign on the inside of every piece of glass:

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I guess a test drive is out of the question .

This one made me laugh.

Found two GT's, one red and still, apparently, for sale. The second black and being prepped for delivery that day.

The red one had this sign on the inside of every piece of glass:

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I guess a test drive is out of the question .

I got to ask.... How much did the dealer want for the "limited edition"?

I got to ask.... How much did the dealer want for the "limited edition"?

I was about to ask the same thing. Probably $15K over.

Strange they didn't have it inside behind a velvet rope. I mean hell, they only made 888 with a 10 cent dash sticker, a sequential Vin # and no option for a sunroof.

Well.....if the trend continues the same way the GTO guys have been trashing their cars, a 888 kept in showroom condition may fetch some serious $$$ one day

I was about to ask the same thing. Probably $15K over.

Strange they didn't have it inside behind a velvet rope. I mean hell, they only made 888 with a 10 cent dash sticker, a sequential Vin # and no option for a sunroof.

No price on the car except for the factory sticker. Based on the sign, I'm guessing they intended to apply a mark up.

I think I'm forth or fifth
Just got mine this morning
Vin number
6g2ec57y98l988659
Gray but I swear it looks like its black

Faster than I thought a car would ever bee. I have to be carful though I want to jam on the engine, I got to let it break in though

I will post pics later


you have an open recall

YT 08090 SERVICE UPDATE - PASS SEAT BELT REMINDER CHIME/LIGHT - * EXPIRES W/BASE WARR * 03/10/2008 Open

:wiggle:

im suprise the bumper the bumper warranty is still 3 years 36k :bomb:

Saw a few thousand of them on the shipping port yesterday. Every color, base and GT models everywhere.