at least a bit closer. it has different wheels and the normal pontiac logo - on the wheels at least. it also has less beefy brakes.

http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/previewpage?035762

still looks good

Car looks great in red.

Only a year until the first "which color is fastest" thread

And holy cow, who dressed the guy ont he left?

I really hope we'll get some decent wheel options with this thing because those stockers are way too bland.

This is the car they launched in Australia yesterday. It may be production, or it may be an SS-V with a Pontiac Hood & front clip.

It was on the news in Australia last night, but I can't find any clips. The building looks like the Holden office in Melbourne, where they have all their concept cars on display. I might have to head down and have a look.

http://yahoo.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=29015&vf=2

Red G8 Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRohX44n5s

Red G8 Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRohX44n5s

great find!

notice the interior is only one tone and no nav and red pontiac logo

Actually I think the pontiac arrowhead only appears to be red.

NICE!!!!! oh man this car is more and more tempting

The G8 is more appealing each time I see it. I was planning on waiting for the GXP but I don't know if I can wait.

The G8 is more appealing each time I see it. I was planning on waiting for the GXP but I don't know if I can wait.

I'm having the same delima.

nice find....but could they have at least opened it up a bit? someone tell them to go do it again and put the damn right foot to the floor :p

Red G8 Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRohX44n5s

Red G8 Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRohX44n5s

awsome find

G8 looks awsome in red.

what was that shot from? normally from some motor cycle but that thing sounded like it was about to fall apart.

That interior is what we can expect though. No 2 tone interior like the show car.

Notice the non-nav stereo.

Filmed in Lang Lang Victoria.

Lang Lang is Holden's Proving ground - if you are really lucky, you can catch a glimpse of prototypes making the 40 mile trip from Holden at Fishermans Bend along the Monash Freeway early in the morning.

If I can check out the red G8 and a few other VE cars (HSV too) I'd love to go this fall before we get the G8 here.

If I can check out the red G8 and a few other VE cars (HSV too) I'd love to go this fall before we get the G8 here.
I wonder if we will get devil yellow again ;)

Notice the non-nav stereo.

Filmed in Lang Lang Victoria.

Hmm, interesting. I would be very suprised if the V8 GT didnt have dual zone climate control standard.

Hmm, interesting. I would be very suprised if the V8 GT didnt have dual zone climate control standard.

I'm pretty sure it will. Could be wrong though.

Notice the non-nav stereo.

:soapbox:

Hopefully a future option. I think it may be delayed due to Blaupunkt not having US nav data ready for next year. Just my non-professional educated guess because their website never mentions any US map data.

http://www.blaupunkt.com/us/nav_sys.asp

I could care less about waiting for a GXP since its not in my price range, and I'm not a stickler for that extra power. I'm buying a White GT the day they come out. :D

I could care less about waiting for a GXP since its not in my price range, and I'm not a stickler for that extra power. I'm buying a White GT the day they come out. :D

If you are buying your G8 GT the day they come out, the dealers may insist that you pay GXP prices for your GT.

I'm in lust!

This is the car they launched in Australia yesterday. It may be production, or it may be an SS-V with a Pontiac Hood & front clip.

It was on the news in Australia last night, but I can't find any clips. The building looks like the Holden office in Melbourne, where they have all their concept cars on display. I might have to head down and have a look.

http://yahoo.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=29015&vf=2

:eek2: All of the G8's are Commodores with Pontiac hood and front nose.

And there was a simultaneous introduction of the G8 in Australia, at the same time Bob was on stage. Don't know what time that was but I have a feeling th esun had already set (or not come up yet)

I am still waiting for a few things...

See when/if the GXP is coming
If yes what will be different from the GT to the GXP
What the Camaro looks like next to it.

But as superNoid said a brand spanking new White GT would sure be nice...

jizz,

Any of us can play the "waiting for perfect information" game, but we'll usually lose.

You can already compare the new Camaro to the G8 - you've now seen both.

Waiting for the GXP G8? I might ask why, given that 1), its not coming the first year and 2), how much HP do you really need?

Buy based on the best current info available, not the "what-ifs" and rumors that will always swirl around on every car program. If you continually wait for the best-of-the-best, you'll never buy a car, as they'll always be a better model right around the corner.

Buy based on the best current info available, not the "what-ifs" and rumors that will always swirl around on every car program. If you continually wait for the best-of-the-best, you'll never buy a car, as they'll always be a better model right around the corner.

Agree wholeheartedly. I could have waited in '96 and instead of taking delivery of second '97 GP , first GTP in town in September waited for 2-climate which would not be available until 1/07. It's one of our favorite features on the '03.

Waiting for the GXP G8? I might ask why, given that 1), its not coming the first year and 2), how much HP do you really need?


Buick Grand National
LT4 Corvette
LS6 Corvette
LS7 Corvette
01-02 F-Bodies over earlier years
LS2 GTO over LS1 GTO

In the past GM has built up HP over production cycles of performance vehicles.

How much HP? an LS7 would be nice. At least an LS3 that you could put bigger heads and cam into.

Waiting for the GXP G8? I might ask why, given that 1), its not coming the first year and 2), how much HP do you really need?...

1) Yeah, I can wait.
2) More than a 425 hp SRT8.

Nothing wrong with wanting the best/hottest version of a given car. I'm sure you'll also be willing to spend the dollars that accompanies that decision, though, right?

An LS7 G8? Get real. Camaro would have first dibs, if anyone. Again, be careful what you ask for - that would be one expensive G8. Hand-built motors and volume sedans usually don't mix well together unless you throw money at them, like the RS4 Audi or AMG E63. Have you priced one of those lately?

An LS7 G8?

That is something dreams are made of. If one were ever built, the "gotta have it" factor would be so tempting that I would probably give in and buy. $50,000??? Yep, I would figure out how to swing it.

But then again, it is only in my dreams..........

An LS7 G8? Get real. Camaro would have first dibs, if anyone. Again, be careful what you ask for - that would be one expensive G8. Hand-built motors and volume sedans usually don't mix well together unless you throw money at them.

As other motors will surpass the LS7's power ratings I hope its exclusiveness will wear off. In fact I do not even know if I would buy a Camaro if an LS7 was not an option. Plus, GM has done the expensive power sedan with the STS-V.

Again, its all about money. It may be expensive brand new - but it gives a integrity to the performance of the vehicle model line. Plus pick one up second hand when it's affordable and have a great car. The Buick GNX, GMC Typhoon, Pontiac Turbo Trans am, Corvette ZR1 ... all expensive for their time.

420 HP RS4 < 430+ HP LS3 G8 .... for $20k less.

420 HP RS4 < 430+ HP LS3 G8 .... for $20k less.


A 430+ GXP for about $40k will sell. :turbonaughtdy_1:

Buick Grand National
LT4 Corvette
LS6 Corvette
LS7 Corvette
01-02 F-Bodies over earlier years
LS2 GTO over LS1 GTO

In the past GM has built up HP over production cycles of performance vehicles.

How much HP? an LS7 would be nice. At least an LS3 that you could put bigger heads and cam into.

Exactly.

Now in some cases I do not wait... Like I have had my 42" Plasma TV for 3 years now and someone said to me the other day "you should have waited now you could have 1080P, 50" yadda yadaa" but I have been enjoying it for 3 years now so humph.

I see exactly where you are going with your statement though of why wait and how much HP do you need...

I want to see what GM is doig with the "new" engine. The LS3 or whatever they are bringing... but knowing me I will line up a 2008 G8 GT and be driving it :gears:

I agree that a 430+ HP G8 GXP would sell at $40k, as those specs line up pretty well with the SRT-8s already in market.

But a 500 HP LS-7 G8 with the expensive, hand-built motor? I don't think so. Leave the exotic/expensive to the brands that can better carry that price burden - like Cadillac. If that type motor is going to be used anywhere else than the Vette, it will be in the next CTS-V.

But a 500 HP LS-7 G8 with the expensive, hand-built motor?

One can always dream. I always have high aspirations, not always rational ones, for the Holden import cars. I was really hoping HSV would put an LS7 GTS into production as it follows the history of the GTS vehicle. Previous to the VE, the Coupe GTS was a $100,000AU vehicle and was a level up in performance.

Well, if you were orchestrating the product portfolio at GM, which would you use as your premier performance sedan - the G8 Pontiac or CTS Cadillac? Do I even have to answer this question? If there are to be hand-built motors and crazy-fast performance numbers, the CTS-V will carry the torch for GM, not the G8.

For Holden, however, the Commodore happens to be their flagship car, so the idea of an HSV with an LS-7 is somewhat more feasible, even though they might sell like 40 or 50 in the Australian market at the price they would charge to do so.

The current release for the G8 is basically a year away right? By that time we'll have a better understanding of what engines will be available.

No, you already know what engines will be available for the start of 2009 model year production from GM's info: the 3.6L V6 and 6.0L V8.

You might know more about the 2010 model year engines when we get to the 2008 calendar year.

I doubt the LS7 also, but I bet they do release a GXP in a couple of years with more than 425 hp.

The next batch of srt8's will have a 6.4 and over 500hp. If they make a gxp, they will shoot for this number.

I hadn't heard about 500 HP SRTs, but I suppose that's possible. A bump from 6.1 to 6.4L doesn't sound like enough to pick up 75 HP, though.

DCX will have to be careful with pricing, however - the sales aren't exactly soaring at the low-mid $40s now. Once you get up that high in price there are many other very nice cars from which to choose.

No, you already know what engines will be available for the start of 2009 model year production from GM's info: the 3.6L V6 and 6.0L V8.

You might know more about the 2010 model year engines when we get to the 2008 calendar year.

That's what I was trying to say.... :)

i wouldnt get your hopes up for the LS7 in any car besides the z06, even the Camaro. Im guessing that engine's production will only last a couple more years.

If anything the LS7 would shop up in a tuner's aftermarket showcase- I dont really see this engine as being a production option.

you can buy LS7 crate engines from http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/ I think they cost like 17 grand tho:stickpoke:

Only $17k for an LS7 crate engine? That'll separate the men from the boys, for sure.

People....people, let's find a FI middle ground between the dreamers and the realist...lol. (I tend to float in both camps, I dream first...then reason/cost beats me down and kills the child inside of me, lol)

362HP out of the factory can probably be taken to 400HP easy (like the base Vette) and then slap a SC/Turbo on the best and you get 500 or more HP. This makes the dream of 500 under the hood come true while keeping the upgrade to a reasonable $$$$$ amount.

Let's say I got a G8, I'd spend some money taking off about 100-200 pounds then keep it NA and mod it till it hit 400HP, just to personalize it. Honestly, I wont use most of that HP...MOST of the time so chasing HP numbers just seems like a waste of time and money to me.

UNLESS...you are dragging this car or taking it to a track, which most wont ever do.

G84me,

The G8 is the middle ground, in my car world. The CTS-V (and RS4 Audi, E63 Merc, BMW M3), on the other hand, represents the opposite end of the price spectrum.

The next batch of srt8's will have a 6.4 and over 500hp.

There may not even BE a Chrysler SRT product around next year, so this statement is false on it's surface. DCX has sold a pitiful amount of SRT cars and Magnums, so if anything, expect them to disappear entirely.

Agreed, I LOVE the Audi A4/S4...love my RX8, really like the GTO, and REALLY REALLY LOVE the Camaro concept but I'd love for the G8 to be my middle ground also.

Again, I know the Impala SS is coming also but I don't think it will look better than the G8.

G8, I agree. The Impala is projected to not share any body panels with the G8, which in a way is reverse thinking from where GM has been. But it will look like a Chevy, with that big wide chrome cheshire cat grin. Where on teh other hand, no matter its's start as a Holden Commodore, the G8 oozes Pontiac.

Yup, wouldn't it be cool if the next Impala looked like the SS 4 door concept of a few years ago?

But, the G8 I'm pretty sure will be head and shoulders better looking than the Impala. While...we do hace to wait and see.

is the impala going to be on the same form of zeta tho? iirc i might have read it was going to be a little bit longer. could be wrong tho

is the impala going to be on the same form of zeta tho? iirc i might have read it was going to be a little bit longer. could be wrong tho

That's what I seem to recall hearing too (longer framerails).

Hmmmm, I wonder....I don't know either???

That's what I seem to recall hearing too (longer framerails).

LWB = Statesman/Caprice ... It could still be called zeta but not exactly like a VE car, I think for some reason the LWB Holdens are WH's (instead of VE's).

Link to Caprice on Holden.au (http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modeloverview?modelid=8000)

I wanna see one in all black.

LWB = Statesman/Caprice ... It could still be called zeta but not exactly like a VE car, I think for some reason the LWB Holdens are WH's (instead of VE's).

Link to Caprice on Holden.au (http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modeloverview?modelid=8000)

They're actually WM's when talking about the equivalent VE LWB cars. The LWB would also be what the ute is based upon.

Yup, wouldn't it be cool if the next Impala looked like the SS 4 door concept of a few years ago?

But, the G8 I'm pretty sure will be head and shoulders better looking than the Impala. While...we do hace to wait and see.

No, it wouldn't be cool...I wasn't a big fan of the SS concept.

I do like the looks of the Impala in the March Motortrend.