We just scheduled the development car with Haddad Motorsports for the new G8 Supercharger system by Magna Charger. Stay tuned for a TVS powered G8 coming your way! Thank you for the use of your Car Mike, the entire G8 Community appreciates it!

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Freakin awesome. This could help me decide between a gt and gxp. We've heard that AFM will still function. Truth?

Freakin awesome. This could help me decide between a gt and gxp. We've heard that AFM will still function. Truth?

Negative, AFM will not work with any supercharger.

Justlucky was the one who said AFM will work with the supercharger. What size will you put on the LS3? The 2300 or 1900?

Justlucky was the one who said AFM will work with the supercharger. What size will you put on the LS3? The 2300 or 1900?

1900

Negative, AFM will not work with any supercharger.

Yes...the addition of a Magnacharger will not affect the Active Fuel Management system. The Maggie has an internal bypass valve and the valve is open when vacuum is present and a vacuum is present when the engine is only running on four cylinders. When AFM is active the Maggie's bypass valve will open and most of the air will bypass the rotor group but still allow airflow into the lower manifold as if no blower were present. However, when you "step on it", the fuel and spark will fire on all cylinders, the bypass valve on the Maggie will close, and you would have instant boost on all cylinders. Leaving you pressed back in the seat with a smile on your face knowing that you have loads of horsepower and torque but still maintain your gas mileage, if not improve it. Hope this helps you out.

So which one is it? If i decide to get a supercharger for my G8, I would like to retain AFM.

So which one is it? If i decide to get a supercharger for my G8, I would like to retain AFM.

You will not be able to retain AFM. There is not a way to have 6cyl fuel mileage with 600hp, sorry.

So which one is it? If i decide to get a supercharger for my G8, I would like to retain AFM.


I don't understand your logic on that one dude. If you planning to add a supercharger that will suck down some gas when used, you shouldn't be worrying about saving gas with AFM :D

I don't understand your logic on that one dude. If you planning to add a supercharger that will suck down some gas when used, you shouldn't be worrying about saving gas with AFM :D

Well, When the supercharger is in bypass, I don't see a reason that AFM would not work in this situation. By the time the engine sees any boost, AFM will have already shut off. Boost + AFM/DoD Should not be a problem. Here is a turbo LS4 with DoD.

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=4028844&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=cartuning&language=single&tmode=&smode=&s=#4028844

Justlucky was the one who said AFM will work with the supercharger.

I did post that information because that was the initial goal and thinking behind production. Magnuson worked on retaining the AFM but after further testing AFM could not be retained. Unfortunately it was a preconceived notion and will not make it into production. Seems that even with the Maggie AFM will not be retained. :(

I do not see a reason why AFM could not be maintained.

I do not see a reason why AFM could not be maintained.

If you try to stuff 8 cyl worth of air into a motor that thinks its a 6 cyl you are asking for disaster. We have experimented with the AFM and DOD on the trucks and there is no way to make them live. The good news is, we have not seen a drop in fuel mileage with the blower on and the afm off.

Well, When the supercharger is in bypass, I don't see a reason that AFM would not work in this situation. By the time the engine sees any boost, AFM will have already shut off. Boost + AFM/DoD Should not be a problem. Here is a turbo LS4 with DoD.

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=4028844&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=cartuning&language=single&tmode=&smode=&s=#4028844

A supercharger will be allot quicker to make boost than a turbo.

Kevin, if you try to stuff 8 cyl worth of air into a motor that thinks its a 6 cyl you are asking for disaster. We have experimented with the AFM and DOD on the trucks and there is no way to make them live. The good news is, we have not seen a drop in fuel mileage with the blower on and the afm off.

Hey Brian, good to see you too. :wiggle:

With AFM, the G8 GT is presently able to stuff 8 cylinders worth of air into itself after turning 4 cylinders off, it just turns the other 4 (dormant) cylinders back on before doing so. There should be no reason why bolting a supercharger on needs to change that ability. However, if Magnuson has elected to not employ/deploy this technology into its TVS1900 tune, that's fine (of course), it's certainly their prerogative.

Personally, I think AFM technology is kind of ridiculous....I bet in practice any gain in mileage over conventional (non-AFM) applications is at best negligible.

I bet in practice any gain in mileage over conventional (non-AFM) applications is at best negligible.

There you have it :)

Hey, look on the bright side. AFM = avoiding gas guzzler tax

600hp?

600hp?
485-510hp at the engine, based on an increase of 100-120 RWHP and 20% drivetrain loss.

There you have it :)

Another good thing (I'm led to believe) about doing away with the AFM is your cam choices open up considerably. :pimp:

Hmm, I don't understand how you could not drop in mpg without afm. Why would afm even be introduced if it doesn't save you gas?

I guess we were all thinking that at 1500rmp's you're using 4 cylinders and no boost. At 2500rpm's your using all 8 and the boost would kick in and life would be just fine.

Not questioning your expertise, but if that's the thinking you originally based your theory on, I would have agreed with you.

^interesting. Thanks.

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp19006thgen.htm

Looks promising. I'm assuming we're going to need a new hood, although I have no quarrels with that.

And 40% increase from 362~506.8hp????

I bet it's VERY close to clearing the stock hood.... It's only 5.X" tall (if I'm reading it right).

What's the stock manifold 4"?

Good luck keeping your 6L80E auto from grenading. Check out this link for its limitations.
http://www.pacificp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5717&sid=3f2004ff16e6bd4e95167eff5dda52bd

We have a few vehicles (trucks) with the 6l80-E running now. I have not seen an 80-E go south yet.

I bet it's VERY close to clearing the stock hood.... It's only 5.X" tall (if I'm reading it right).

What's the stock manifold 4"?

we will clear the stock hood, no hood change will be required.

We have a few vehicles (trucks) with the 6l80-E running now. I have not seen an 80-E go south yet.

The 6L80 in our 07 Escalade gets POUNDED on regularly and has been great so far. This transmission should be a lot less headaches then the 4L60E in the GTOs.

Steve

Good luck keeping your 6L80E auto from grenading. Check out this link for its limitations.
http://www.pacificp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5717&sid=3f2004ff16e6bd4e95167eff5dda52bd

ehh same thing people run around saying about the 4l60

I am still running a stock 4l60 in my gto and its been put to the test over and over again

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I just steered you guys to the facts. Let's face it, there are a few guys on this site trying to hawk their products and / or services, so let the buyer beware. I didn't take a stand, I provided facts about the durability of the transmission as provided by, oh that's right: General Motors. Guess the vendors know better, don't they?

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I just steered you guys to the facts. Let's face it, there are a few guys on this site trying to hawk their products and / or services, so let the buyer beware. I didn't take a stand, I provided facts about the durability of the transmission as provided by, oh that's right: General Motors. Guess the vendors know better, don't they?
You're biased. You pointed out the ratings, yes, but did so in a way as to discourage people. Now, I think you have a valid point that people should look at the numbers of the weakest points of the drivetrain before kickin' their engines up a notch, but you're not the messenger, you're much closer to a propagandist (and, again, I'm not saying you don't have a valid point).

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I just steered you guys to the facts. Let's face it, there are a few guys on this site trying to hawk their products and / or services, so let the buyer beware. I didn't take a stand, I provided facts about the durability of the transmission as provided by, oh that's right: General Motors. Guess the vendors know better, don't they?

I am sure people realize the risk involved in adding power to a stock vehicle. For most of us, this is not the first trip to the rodeo. Thanks for your input!

Just because the engine is blown doesn't mean you will necessarily have horrible gas mileage. The perfect tune for that specific car could render that issue.

When I had my ION RL, I had a 2.5" pulley on it with 60lb injectors. I maxed out with 21.5psi and was pushing around 270+ at the wheels, yet I was getting over 30mpg on the highway and mid 20s in the city.

If you're so worried about the AFM and getting good mileage but with a supercharger...you need to decide on something. You gotta pay to play...

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I just steered you guys to the facts. Let's face it, there are a few guys on this site trying to hawk their products and / or services, so let the buyer beware. I didn't take a stand, I provided facts about the durability of the transmission as provided by, oh that's right: General Motors. Guess the vendors know better, don't they?

Oh yes and sense "General Motors" says it must be true and it must carry a higher worth then someone else saying it. Please... An automobile manufacture, no matter what automobile manufacture, is concerned with warranty issues and life expectancy and things they say about their vehicles and the vehicle systems always skew to reflect that. If you want a more accurate reflection of what this transmission is capable of then a person can do research on the many forums for the vehicles that are using this tranny all ready in more then stock hp configurations.

Just because the engine is blown doesn't mean you will necessarily have horrible gas mileage. The perfect tune for that specific car could render that issue.

When I had my ION RL, I had a 2.5" pulley on it with 60lb injectors. I maxed out with 21.5psi and was pushing around 270+ at the wheels, yet I was getting over 30mpg on the highway and mid 20s in the city.

If you're so worried about the AFM and getting good mileage but with a supercharger...you need to decide on something. You gotta pay to play...

If your comments are directed at me, I'm not worried. Just bummed. There's a lot of thoughts swirling around in my head and they have to do with getting an 09GT or 09GXP. I'm trying to make a good choice that I don't regret. 30k-40k is a lot of money.

Da Victim has arrived..........hehehehehehe
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P3210107.jpg

More pics later, a BIG thanks to Haddad Motorsports.

Looks Great! Can't Wait! I am glad the 6th generation received the go!

Oh man, this just sealed the deal for me on pulling the trigger for a GT. I was worried I'd get a GT, then the GXP would come out a few months later, and I'd be kicking myself for not waiting. I currently drive a blown grand prix and am so pumped to put a supercharger on a V8. I don't think I'll even care about the GXP's if I can get 500 at the crank out of this bad boy.

500 at the crank should be easy breezy

Oh man, this just sealed the deal for me on pulling the trigger for a GT. I was worried I'd get a GT, then the GXP would come out a few months later, and I'd be kicking myself for not waiting. I currently drive a blown grand prix and am so pumped to put a supercharger on a V8. I don't think I'll even care about the GXP's if I can get 500 at the crank out of this bad boy.

You and me both. Leaning more towards a gt and supercharging it every day now.

Oh man, this just sealed the deal for me on pulling the trigger for a GT. I was worried I'd get a GT, then the GXP would come out a few months later, and I'd be kicking myself for not waiting. I currently drive a blown grand prix and am so pumped to put a supercharger on a V8. I don't think I'll even care about the GXP's if I can get 500 at the crank out of this bad boy.


500 hp should be the standard if ya gots ta be blown! What's the ball park $$$$ figure to get reliable hp out of it?

I'm personally waiting on the GXP cause having a blown GXP will have that much more dramatic impact on some SRT8 owners and will also get you some exclusivity. Ho hum...the wait begins! :popcorn2:

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm considering the GXP for the manual transmission. It seems like you could probably mess up a 6L80(E) rated to 440lb-ft by supercharging but the Tremec 6060 is rated to 600lb-ft and less expensive to fix if you do exceed the rating.

I think this has been mentioned before, but is there a "weakest link" in the 6L80 that can be replaced to better handle the increased power? I would expect torque to be 75-100lb-ft above spec in a S/C L76.
..or do you plan on blowing up the transmission and THEN getting it rebuilt/replaced stronger?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm considering the GXP for the manual transmission. It seems like you could probably mess up a 6L80(E) rated to 440lb-ft by supercharging but the Tremec 6060 is rated to 600lb-ft and less expensive to fix if you do exceed the rating.

I think this has been mentioned before, but is there a "weakest link" in the 6L80 that can be replaced to better handle the increased power? I would expect torque to be 75-100lb-ft above spec in a S/C L76.
..or do you plan on blowing up the transmission and THEN getting it rebuilt/replaced stronger?

The longevity of your trans....or any other part in the car for that matter is based on driving habits and maintenance. Drive it like an idiot and plan for a trans someday, drive it spirited and you will be fine. I have seen 60-E's go 50-60 K.

THe auto can handle a supercharger....its underated....the thing is bullet proof

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm considering the GXP for the manual transmission. It seems like you could probably mess up a 6L80(E) rated to 440lb-ft by supercharging but the Tremec 6060 is rated to 600lb-ft and less expensive to fix if you do exceed the rating.

I think this has been mentioned before, but is there a "weakest link" in the 6L80 that can be replaced to better handle the increased power? I would expect torque to be 75-100lb-ft above spec in a S/C L76.
..or do you plan on blowing up the transmission and THEN getting it rebuilt/replaced stronger?

JAWDRPNG8 is right. The 6L80 is underrated. The 6L80 is most equivalent to the old Turbo 400s in strength. Just as an example, go to this link on GM Powertrain and look at the ratings: http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2008/08car.htm

Specifically, check the Tremec 6060 in the Vette and the 6L80 in the Vette. They are within a 30 lb-ft of each other according to GM. Also, notice that the Tremec is not rated by GM at 600 lb-ft, but 470. I'm still not convinced that this is truly the max design capacity for either tranny, just what GM has validated based on need. I assume that the ZR1 Tremec will get a higher rating for 09, but will be a different model tranny than what goes into the G8.


Chip

Chip sounds like your know your stuff....
hey is your LSM grandprix gxp have the 5.3 V8?
my lil bro ..has an 07 blk ss impalla..same motor i think...he put on magnaflows cat ?back and k@n cold air...anything else u know about ...that he could do ?

Did I read that right??

Low maintenance

For severe use, DEXRONŽ VI fluid changes are the only maintenance recommended.

For normal use there is no fluid change scheduled.

The longevity of your trans....or any other part in the car for that matter is based on driving habits and maintenance. Drive it like an idiot and plan for a trans someday, drive it spirited and you will be fine. I have seen 60-E's go 50-60 K.
By 60-Es, do you mean 6L80-Es or *L60-Es? If so, how are their relative strengths?

How do you maintain a transmission? Is this just routinely checking it and/or changing fluids?

Also, what do you mean between driving it like an idiot and driving it spirited? Do you mean putting your foot down in a gear but perhaps lifting your foot a bit when the transmission is going to shift? I assume the shifting is where the transmission is going to have the most problems with excessive power, not transferring the power through gearing, though I don't know much about it. :popcorn2:

You shouldn't rutenily change your tranny fluid. I know a lot of guys that actually caused problems to their tranny when they changed the fluid. But it should be done at the recommended intervals.

By 60-Es, do you mean 6L80-Es or *L60-Es? If so, how are their relative strengths?

How do you maintain a transmission? Is this just routinely checking it and/or changing fluids?

Also, what do you mean between driving it like an idiot and driving it spirited? Do you mean putting your foot down in a gear but perhaps lifting your foot a bit when the transmission is going to shift? I assume the shifting is where the transmission is going to have the most problems with excessive power, not transferring the power through gearing, though I don't know much about it. :popcorn2:

NO, I was talking about the weaker 60-E's that GM put out. They were horrible once you put power to them, yet I have seen them go 60K without blowing up.

Driving like and idiot=WOT ever chance you get
Spirited Driving=occasional WOT

Isnt this thread about supercharging?:angel:

Will this have an intercooler?

You shouldn't rutenily change your tranny fluid. I know a lot of guys that actually caused problems to their tranny when they changed the fluid. But it should be done at the recommended intervals.

That does not make very much sense to me. The worst thing that will happen if change your tranny fluid more routinely is that you are spending more money that you have / need to.

The only issues that I can think of that would be similar to what you are describing is when a tranny is gunked up from not changing the fluid frequently enough, the detergents in the fresh fluid will start to break down / break loose some of the sludge and varnishing. The sludge / varnish gets transported to another part of the tranny (solenoid, valve body, etc.) and plugs something up, causing erroneous operation.

That does not make very much sense to me. The worst thing that will happen if change your tranny fluid more routinely is that you are spending more money that you have / need to.

The only issues that I can think of that would be similar to what you are describing is when a tranny is gunked up from not changing the fluid frequently enough, the detergents in the fresh fluid will start to break down / break loose some of the sludge and varnishing. The sludge / varnish gets transported to another part of the tranny (solenoid, valve body, etc.) and plugs something up, causing erroneous operation.

You can stir up sediments and stuff and have it go through and clog your lines.

Never had it happen to me, just some info I've picked up from those who have.

Will this have an intercooler?

Yes, it will be intercooled.

How soon do you expect to have this kit ready to go? What's your estimated price point?

How soon do you expect to have this kit ready to go? What's your estimated price point?

I will post up this info once I know.

Chip sounds like your know your stuff....
hey is your LSM grandprix gxp have the 5.3 V8?
my lil bro ..has an 07 blk ss impalla..same motor i think...he put on magnaflows cat ?back and k@n cold air...anything else u know about ...that he could do ?

Sent you a PM.

Isnt this thread about supercharging?:angel:

Just filling time until we get more good news from you... :popcorn2:

Chip

I will post up this info once I know.

:popcorn2:

And so the madness begins:bubbrubb:

Baseline dyno is done. Moving on to the tear down!

subscribed for updates... what psi are you guys shooting for? 6-7?

subscribed for updates... what psi are you guys shooting for? 6-7?

Yeah, that seems about right. Their website states "Regardless of supercharger style, there is a limit that if exceeded will destroy the engine. With 92-93-octane pump gas that limit seems to be 7.5psi with an effective intercooler".

subscribed for updates... what psi are you guys shooting for? 6-7?
6-7 psi :)
Yeah, that seems about right. Their website states "Regardless of supercharger style, there is a limit that if exceeded will destroy the engine. With 92-93-octane pump gas that limit seems to be 7.5psi with an effective intercooler".

I am glad people read the site!!

On this site is a project where a client had installed two turbo chargers for a HSV Maloo Utility.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=94376

The two other links are the Dyno Chart and the subject vehicle

Subject vehicle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21694538@N07/2371474805/

Dyno Chart - about 570 bhp
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21694538@N07/2371467427/


Staggering vehicle for sure.

Amazing what can be coaxed from a V8

Mike

On this site is a project where a client had installed two turbo chargers for a HSV Maloo Utility.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=94376

The two other links are the Dyno Chart and the subject vehicle

Subject vehicle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21694538@N07/2371474805/

Dyno Chart - about 570 bhp
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21694538@N07/2371467427/


Staggering vehicle for sure.

Amazing what can be coaxed from a V8

Mike


Glad we were talking about supercharging and not turbos:slap:

So, all went well?

all mocked up.:yumyum:

:worthless:


:popcorn2:

Here is one teaser.....more to come.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P3300001.jpg

That looks sweet. So you do have hood clearance?

DAM!!!!!!!!:eek2::drool::eek2::drool:

That looks sweet. So you do have hood clearance?
Yep, clears perfectly
DAM!!!!!!!!:eek2::drool::eek2::drool:

LMAO:bubbrubb:

That looks freakin awsome. I wish that was my car. :)

TO BLOWN CHEVY:

1. how long till we can buy?
2. how much HP?
3. how much PSI?
4. how much will it cost?
5. And most important is it worth it? (sorry is that even a question) LOL

thanks

That looks freakin awsome. I wish that was my car. :)
It's mine now :)

TO BLOWN CHEVY:

1. how long till we can buy?
2. how much HP?
3. how much PSI?
4. how much will it cost?
5. And most important is it worth it? (sorry is that even a question) LOL

thanks

1. No exact timeline on delivery yet.
2. Generally we add 120RWHP, there is more in it for those that require more HP.
3. 6-7psi is where we set them for saftey
4. I will have pricing once we have a time line, your board sponsors are your purchase point for the systems. (It is Haddad's car, give him some love)
5. That sir might be a loaded question. Of course 120rwhp is needed:yumyum:

Schwing!:boink:

omg. someone hand me a kleenek...

Remember, this is for mock up and discovery. These are NOT running parts, YET.:gears:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4010004.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4010003.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4010002.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4010001.jpg

Are your superchargers typically fed from the stock airbox, upgraded airbox, CAI, or what? Would someone be able to use an OTR CAI?

We HAVE, to do something about that intake. I can't tell, is there an intercooler under there, it looks like it...

Are your superchargers typically fed from the stock airbox, upgraded airbox, CAI, or what? Would someone be able to use an OTR CAI?

Stock air box, need to meet CARB rules and regs.
We HAVE, to do something about that intake. I can't tell, is there an intercooler under there, it looks like it...

Yes, there is an intercooler.

Stock air box, need to meet CARB rules and regs.
I don't know too much about CARB other than its waste of tax payer funds and giving CA a Nazi reputation. :rant:
How would CAI, etc. not meet the rules and regs? Do they have a specific rule demanding the manufacturers original air box?

subscribing :)

I don't know too much about CARB other than its waste of tax payer funds and giving CA a Nazi reputation. :rant:
How would CAI, etc. not meet the rules and regs? Do they have a specific rule demanding the manufacturers original air box?

The stock air box and air filter on the new G8 have "carbon traps" that need to stay in place. The supercharger system would not be CARB compliant without the stock air box.

I don't know too much about CARB other than its waste of tax payer funds and giving CA a Nazi reputation. :rant:
How would CAI, etc. not meet the rules and regs? Do they have a specific rule demanding the manufacturers original air box?

Unless the airbox manufacturer has applied for and received a California CARB number (which costs about $100,000 per product), then an aftermarket airbox is illegal.

Also, different tunes are required for each airbox as each one behaves differently. I doubt that Magnuson is interested in tailoring tunes for different airboxes, even if they are CARB compliant.

****, I need a kleenex, too. Make it a box. :bubbrubb:

You know, it's really too bad about the coils being mounted to the tops of the valve covers. That engine just doesn't look too great naked.

The supercharger helps, though.

You know, it's really too bad about the coils being mounted to the tops of the valve covers. That engine just doesn't look too great naked.

The supercharger helps, though.

There are some rail/coil covers available in the aftermarket. I am SURE there will SOMEONE (Haddad hint, hint) that makes them for the G8/Magna Charger Combo.

what displacement is the supercharger?

CAN YOU SAY M5 KILLER!!!!!:gears:

I don't know about you guys but I'm very excited.

As soon as the kit is ready for the masses we will be the first to have them in stock and ready to ship.

Once we get the car back in our hands we will be playing with it thoroughly . Valve cover covers are a great idea and we will be looking into developing those for you guys. We will also do our best to try and break the car for you guys and let you know how far you can really push these cars and blower systems. I have a pretty good hunch the car is going to fail long before the magnacharger stuff even gets close.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

There are some rail/coil covers available in the aftermarket. I am SURE there will SOMEONE (Haddad hint, hint) that makes them for the G8/Magna Charger Combo.
Right, I see that Lingenfelter makes them for their engines.

Just wanna say one thing thank you HADDAD motorsports...

trust me when i get my G8 i will definetly take it to you guys for my tune....

by the way how much would that be? a guestamate would be ok...

thanks

Oh man that blower looks extremely nice sitting there in all it's horsepower glory! This is great. Not even a month after the G8 hit the showrooms performance mods are already being incorperated for it.

Great news for when the GXP G8 finally arrives. Haddads will be my one stop shop if / when I get me a GXP G8.

Oh man that blower looks extremely nice sitting there in all it's horsepower glory! This is great. Not even a month after the G8 hit the showrooms performance mods are already being incorperated for it.

Great news for when the GXP G8 finally arrives. Haddads will be my one stop shop if / when I get me a GXP G8.

:gears::gears:

do you guys have a date when you will be done?

so mike can see if it can go fast (HOPEFULY) LOL:gears:

do you guys have a date when you will be done?

so mike can see if it can go fast (HOPEFULY) LOL:gears:

I do not have the exact date yet, we are still looking into what new parts there will be. I will keep you guys posted as we move along.

what programmers do you guys deal with if any?

and which one will you use with this car?

thanks

what programmers do you guys deal with if any?

and which one will you use with this car?

thanks

We use Superchips (FlashPaq).

hey Socali, where in so cal are you?

corona, ca

why?:yumyum:

corona, ca

You are welcome to come up North for a tour of the joint if you are interested. Just let me know.

FYI, everyone is welcome with notice :)

where exactly are you guys located?

where exactly are you guys located?

Ventura, right off of the 101.

thats funny cause i had an 07 vortecmax silverado when they came out and i was gunna let you guys borrow it for fitting but i couldnt cause it was my daily driver....

The magnacharger facilities are probably the most impressive I've ever seen. And I've been to quite a few.

I would take BlownChevy up on his offer if I was you.

If your down there make sure he's not doin doughnuts in my G8.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

sorry mike i cant guarantee anything but i can make sure he could actually perform these so called "doughnuts" you speak of.... :gears:JK

of course im gunna take up on his offer...

Are the rotors in this kit going to be the new HH ones that everyone is talking about? Those are the ones that Eaton is supplying for the new ZR1? I assume that even though the system is designed around the stock aribox for carb cert, owners in other states could run a CAI for more power?

Looks sick by the way. I'd love to do that stuff for a living!

S.F.

Be patient guys. I'm sure we'd all rather them take their time and get it all right. Plus I would assume the tubing and fittings etc, will take time to get manufactured and put into the kits...

sorry mike i cant guarantee anything but i can make sure he could actually perform these so called "doughnuts" you speak of.... :gears:JK

of course im gunna take up on his offer...

Oh, I can do some doughnuts:gears:

Are the rotors in this kit going to be the new HH ones that everyone is talking about? Those are the ones that Eaton is supplying for the new ZR1? I assume that even though the system is designed around the stock aribox for carb cert, owners in other states could run a CAI for more power?

Looks sick by the way. I'd love to do that stuff for a living!

S.F.

Yes, this will be the same 6th Gen EATON rotating group that is used in the new ZR1, only the next size down. They use the TVS1900 in the new Cadillac CTS-V.

Thanks for the Kudos!

Be patient guys. I'm sure we'd all rather them take their time and get it all right. Plus I would assume the tubing and fittings etc, will take time to get manufactured and put into the kits...

10-4, this stuff does take time....but it is well worth the wait:gears::gears:

Is magnacharger still planning on offering that 200 dollar drivetraine warranty coverage?

Is magnacharger still planning on offering that 200 dollar drivetraine warranty coverage?

The drive train warranty is available on vehicles that meet the criteria.

Is magnacharger still planning on offering that 200 dollar drivetraine warranty coverage?

The drive train warranty is available on vehicles that meet the criteria.

In other words, no, because the transmission is only rated to 469hp/439lb-ft by GM and a supercharger should blow by those numbers in a hurry. I read the fine print a little while ago and they'll only guarantee drivetrain components that are at or below OEM specs for torque.


http://www.magnacharger.com/pdf/legal-warranty.pdf

3g (exclusions): Vehicle transmissions exceeding maximum OEM rated torque output are excluded

In other words, no, because the transmission is only rated to 469hp/439lb-ft by GM and a supercharger should blow by those numbers in a hurry. I read the fine print a little while ago and they'll only guarantee drivetrain components that are at or below OEM specs for torque.

We just sell it for the warranty company :) I am not a big fan of the after market power train warranty.......

In my experience, if you install a supercharger on your vehicle and maintain/drive in a somewhat sane manner parts will not break.

^ I agree. My concern is that my water pump goes while under warranty and the dealer refuses to fix it. I realize that these are all risks you take, and I have no problems doing my own maintenance, but if I didn't have to, I'd rather not...

subscribing... :popcorn2:

^ I agree. My concern is that my water pump goes while under warranty and the dealer refuses to fix it. I realize that these are all risks you take, and I have no problems doing my own maintenance, but if I didn't have to, I'd rather not...

Yes, there are some gray areas in the world of warranty. I suggest building a relationship with your favorite GM service department.

so anything inside the engine/trans that is lubricated is covered?

do you know or have ever heard of dealer honoring warranty on a car even though its supercharged?

EDIT: can you get a warranty longer than 3yrs/36k miles?

thanks

so anything inside the engine/trans that is lubricated is covered?

do you know or have ever heard of dealer honoring warranty on a car even though its supercharged?

EDIT: can you get a warranty longer than 3yrs/36k miles?

thanks

The warranty covers the vehicle for the 3/36 only. I do not sell allot of these aftermarket warranty's. Just an FYI, we have not had an engine failure on a vehicle that has kept the provided calibration and boost level.

The warranty covers the vehicle for the 3/36 only. I do not sell allot of these aftermarket warranty's. Just an FYI, we have not had an engine failure on a vehicle that has kept the provided calibration and boost level.

what about dealers honoring the factory warranty?

what about dealers honoring the factory warranty?

Technically speaking the dealer nor GM can void your warranty for adding an aftermarket part. In the unlikely event of a failure they would need to prove the failure was caused by the aftermarket part before voiding warranty. Grey area? Yeah I guess so.

Just an FYI, we have not had an engine failure on a vehicle that has kept the provided calibration and boost level.
I'm not worried so much about the engine as I am about the transmission. In how many cases that you know of (# or %) has a transmission died significantly before its time? Can they usually be rebuilt for relatively cheap (dunno, maybe $1000-1500) or is it such a way that the whole thing needs to be replaced?

too early to tell, but being GM, i would bet that you shouldn't have problems if you keep the boost set as desired by the manufacturer and provide maintenance at regular intervals

Not the same, but my '01 GTP had transmissions problems at 74,500 miles into my 75,000 mile extended warranty. I had headers, cat-back exhaust and replacement PCM. The dealer plugged the computer in and the VIN on the PCM didn't match my car, so he questioned me on it. Long story short, I told him the truth and they replaced the tranny anyhow with a remanufactured one. It took them 3 weeks to go through the whole process, but in the end, it was covered.

I'm not worried so much about the engine as I am about the transmission. In how many cases that you know of (# or %) has a transmission died significantly before its time? Can they usually be rebuilt for relatively cheap (dunno, maybe $1000-1500) or is it such a way that the whole thing needs to be replaced?

If it were a 4L65-E I would be worried. The 6 speeds are taking plenty of abuse.

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what is that cooler thing (silver)?

what is that cooler thing (silver)?

Heat exchanger for the water to air intercooler.

Good luck keeping your 6L80E auto from grenading. Check out this link for its limitations.
http://www.pacificp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5717&sid=3f2004ff16e6bd4e95167eff5dda52bd

Obviously you've never heard of the engineering constant "Factor of Safety". Don't know what FS GM uses, but I guarantee you those aren't the true maximums that the transmission can handle. Rather they're the maximum that it can handle accounting for a safety factor of probably 1.5 (in other words it can handle 1.5x what they claim the maximum is, it will just be higher risk).

As for AFM, the supercharger (unless I'm missing something) will make a small amount of boost at even low rpm, especially at...say...75mph in 6th. If you close the valves on 4 cylinders, you suddenly have all 8 cylinders worth of air with only 4 cylinders worth of volume, which means each cylinder sees a sudden spike of air which equates to a lean condition. Not a problem for a little while, but definitely a problem over the long term. And a bypass valve really won't do any good, because the overall pressure will still be well below the bypass pressure, but will still be a sudden spike in the cylinders.



IMO ;)

hey blownchevy....

when would it be a good time to go visit you guys so i can check out mikes car...

"wink-wink" >>>:gears:

hey blownchevy....

when would it be a good time to go visit you guys so i can check out mikes car...

"wink-wink" >>>:gears:

anytime, just give me a days notice.

If it were a 4L65-E I would be worried. The 6 speeds are taking plenty of abuse.
What were the most common problems with the 4 speeds? Did something wear out (and relatively low cost to FIX) or did they.. explode (requiring REPLACEMENT)? I'm just trying to get a feel for how much risk I'd be taking on if I decided to supercharge it (and, of course, punch it at every light that had the tenacity to tell me to stop in the first place :nono:). A replacement here and there would be fine but I'd have to think about it long and hard (that's what she said--one more week until the new Office) if there was a possibility that I would either have to replace the whole transmission ($$$) or would break down somewhere (suxxorz).

Obviously you've never heard of the engineering constant "Factor of Safety". Don't know what FS GM uses, but I guarantee you those aren't the true maximums that the transmission can handle. Rather they're the maximum that it can handle accounting for a safety factor of probably 1.5 (in other words it can handle 1.5x what they claim the maximum is, it will just be higher risk).
Those margins are a bitch, though, and have me worried about kickin' up the heat. :eyetwitch:

As for AFM, the supercharger (unless I'm missing something) will make a small amount of boost at even low rpm, especially at...say...75mph in 6th. If you close the valves on 4 cylinders, you suddenly have all 8 cylinders worth of air with only 4 cylinders worth of volume, which means each cylinder sees a sudden spike of air which equates to a lean condition. Not a problem for a little while, but definitely a problem over the long term. And a bypass valve really won't do any good, because the overall pressure will still be well below the bypass pressure, but will still be a sudden spike in the cylinders.

IMO ;)

If the TVS is built like the previous generations of Eaton superchargers with integrated bypass valves, the bypass valve is open under light throttle conditions. The valve is placed in a passage from the intake manifold to just ahead of the rotors. At full throttle, the valve closes and it builds boost in the intake. At lower throttle postitions, the valve is open and air passes through the rotors, into the intake manifold, then some is passed through the valve and back to between the TB and rotors. Under light throttle, the manifold is under vacuum, just like with an NA motor. The valve is actuated by a combination of vacuum and electric(PCM) for GTPs, probably just vacuum ratio for those vehicles that dont have PCM OS's that have provisions for Boost Solenoid Control. The vacuum that controls the valve is taken from the pre-rotor area; if it is close enough to atmospheric, the BBV closes and it builds boost. As the throttle closes, the vacuum reaches a preset level, the valve opens and allows the air to recirculate through the rotors, and manifold pressure is controlled solely by the TB.

Check out the vid I had saved from Eaton a while back (they seem to have taken it down, so I had to upload it to youtube). It shows the function of the bypass valve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wpatO9rcQg

Any snags trying to get the fmhe to fit properly?

Any snags trying to get the fmhe to fit properly?

I am sure there will be some revisions to it.

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Any updates BLOWNCHEVY?...

:yumyum::popcorn2:

that bald headed guy with the drill looks scary..........:)

Any updates BLOWNCHEVY?...

:yumyum::popcorn2:
Tomorrow:popcorn2:

that bald headed guy with the drill looks scary..........:)

He is:eek2:

Awesome pics man. Thanks for the info. God I'd love a minute alone in that warehouse ;)

A shop tour for those that cannot make it

Thanks for the pics!! How far are you from Huntington Beach? I make it out there from time to time and I might try and stop by the next time I am out there.

Thanks for the pics!! How far are you from Huntington Beach? I make it out there from time to time and I might try and stop by the next time I am out there.

about an hour or so north.

Still waiting for the updates BlownChevy....JK:yumyum:

Still waiting for the updates BlownChevy....JK:yumyum:

We plan to have the kit for this car fabbed up and running this week. Production kits will follow shortly.

We plan to have the kit for this car fabbed up and running this week. Production kits will follow shortly.

Approximate price?

Approximate price?

Working on that now, waiting for the completed parts list.

***Here's hoping you come in under the twin turbo kit.***

***Here's hoping you come in under the twin turbo kit.***
:mswerd:
That turbo kit is a bit more than a 120RWHP increase that MagnaCharger expects to produce and I would hate to pay more for less power, whether there's "more under the curve" or not. :eek2:

***Here's hoping you come in under the twin turbo kit.***
We will see.

:mswerd:
That turbo kit is a bit more than a 120RWHP increase that MagnaCharger expects to produce and I would hate to pay more for less power, whether there's "more under the curve" or not. :eek2:

Call me when the TT kit is C.A.R.B. Compliant ;)

We will see.



Call me when the TT kit is C.A.R.B. Compliant ;)


Yea the first thing they do is remove the cats and put the turbos in their place.

Call me when the TT kit is C.A.R.B. Compliant ;)
Does that matter for the other 49 states? :sneaky:

I'm in FL and I don't think there's emissions testing or any of that here.

Does that matter for the other 49 states? :sneaky:

I'm in FL and I don't think there's emissions testing or any of that here.

You are correct FL does not have any emissions standards. I would rather not turn this into a Turbo Vs Blower thread, they always get out of control. If you are interested in a TT I am sure they are available, do some searching on the GTO forum.

Yeah guys, this is a Magnacharger thread, not a comparo. :slap:

Wasn't meant to turn it into a comparo. Maybe just a nudge at keeping the blower (which I still want more than a turbo) affordable.

Wasn't meant to turn it into a comparo. Maybe just a nudge at keeping the blower (which I still want more than a turbo) affordable.

The goal is to keep the G8 TVS kit priced very close to the current GTO system.......I will have more on this once we have the parts list complete.

I may be wrong in this assumption but I would think a Magnacharger with its "power under the curve" would get these portly G8's moving better than a TT setup.

I love the idea of having twin turbos but the complexity of the systems would always bother me for a daily driven car. As I get older I want more reliable power ;)

Brian what's taking so long, we coulda had this done in a weekend! ;) I'm excited to see how it does. Speaking from experience no power adder on the planet can match a Magnacharger for ease of installation, build quality, drivability OR reliability. I've done superchargers, turbos, nitrous and Magnacharger is the ONLY way to go for a daily driver.

Brian what's taking so long, we coulda had this done in a weekend! ;) I'm excited to see how it does. Speaking from experience no power adder on the planet can match a Magnacharger for ease of installation, build quality, drivability OR reliability. I've done superchargers, turbos, nitrous and Magnacharger is the ONLY way to go for a daily driver.

LMAO thanks Micah. I assume we can put you down for one?

Are the rotors in this kit going to be the new HH ones that everyone is talking about? Those are the ones that Eaton is supplying for the new ZR1?

S.F.

I believe that the ZR1 is a 2300 version of this supercharger family

I have a question about air pressure. I've heard that typical N/A engines run at around 80% of the surrounding air pressure, so of the 14.7psi available at sea level, there might only be 12psi of air in the cylinder before it compresses. If this is correct, then with a 7psi boost, does this mean that the air pressure is ~12psi + 7 for 19psi (boost defined as the increase in the cylinders) or 14.7 + 7psi for 21.7psi (boost as defined as the increase above atmospheric pressure)?

thanks huge for all the updates blownchevy. I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say I am feverishly awaiting the price and production date for the maggie. don't hold back now.... I am hooked on the idea with $$ in hand! thanks for all the work!

I'm gettin antsy.

I can't wait to drive my car again.

Unfortunately and fortunately the car is going to Borla as soon as its done at magnussun.

We plan on being the first shop to have the maggies in stock.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

hey mike pm me a day ahead before you get your car back so i can go check it out....



:driving::driving:

thanks

np

Anyone that wants to see and/or go for a ride in the car, all you need to do is come on by the shop. We will be more than happy to to demo it for you.

Thanks
Mike Haddad
hey mike pm me a day ahead before you get your car back so i can go check it out....



:driving::driving:

thanks

np

Anyone that wants to see and/or go for a ride in the car, all you need to do is come on by the shop. We will be more than happy to to demo it for you.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

I'll be in LA this coming weekend. I would really like to to do both.

Well looks like your gunna have to go after me RED888 cause im FIRST IN LINE!!!! :burnout: JK

If all goes well ill see you there... Which day will you go?

My car is gonna be famous. LOL
It's been repainted and chosen as an avatar. :)

Thats just the my avatar i have it as my desktop!!!!

by the way thanks again ray...

Well looks like your gunna have to go after me RED888 cause im FIRST IN LINE!!!! :burnout: JK

If all goes well ill see you there... Which day will you go?

Hopefully be there this Fri. PM. How 'bout Sat? Check with Haddad.
First in line...... I don't know

So,

While we pass the time. I'm new to "non stock superchargers" Is it possible to have an add-on to your kit that would include a boost and maybe a/f gauge setup? Might be something to think about. Give a little discount to those buying the whole shibang.

So,

While we pass the time. I'm new to "non stock superchargers" Is it possible to have an add-on to your kit that would include a boost and maybe a/f gauge setup? Might be something to think about. Give a little discount to those buying the whole shibang.

As soon as we get the car back in the shop we will be working on a gauge package.

For those of you talkin about commin down this weekend. Not sure we're gona have the car back so soon but I'll keep everybody posted.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Will this blower be really loud?

cause i rather have loud one. hearing blower scream make me high

Will this blower be really loud?

cause i rather have loud one. hearing blower scream make me high
Ditto. I want it to be silent at idle (bypass would be open, right?) but sound like a bat out of hell when pushed (or at least the air flying over its wings).

Will this blower be really loud?

cause i rather have loud one. hearing blower scream make me high

nice to know that i'm not the only person who has to smile when making boost in a cobra...

I'm gettin antsy.

I can't wait to drive my car again.

Unfortunately and fortunately the car is going to Borla as soon as its done at magnussun.

We plan on being the first shop to have the maggies in stock.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Sorry, but which is going to come first? Checking the car out, for us that want to, or Borla, or the gauges? My antsy is antsy.

nice to know that i'm not the only person who has to smile when making boost in a cobra...

The best thing about my GP is the wicked whine she puts out when you get on it. Everyone in the neighborhood can hear it when you accelerate from a stop. Hopefully with a nice breathable intake, this will do the same. Supercharger whine on V8 rumble is the sexiest sound a car can make.

Just waiting to smile!

I keep Kleenex's in my car b/c of whine sexiness

I hate to be a B.......... But, is it ready YET!

More to come on Monday, but here are some teaser pics :gr_devil:
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so what do you guys need left?

i bet mike is calling you everyday asking for his car!!!! haha...

what psi are you guys shooting for? and any problems yet?

i think i can go check out your shop next week... ill let you know

what psi are you guys shooting for?

as stated earlier, 6-7 psi...:)

as stated earlier, 6-7 psi...:)

not what their gunna advertise... what their actually gunna put out...:gr_devil:

not what their gunna advertise... what their actually gunna put out...:gr_devil:

The TVS is more than capable of efficient boost numbers above 10 psi on the 6.0.....However, you are up against the stock motor with those numbers.

i bet mike is calling you everyday asking for his car!!!! haha...



Car??? What car. I've almost forgotten that I own a G8. :)

Its all good though. Its gona be well worth the wait.

Car??? What car. I've almost forgotten that I own a G8. :)

Its all good though. Its gona be well worth the wait.

When its done there are you gunna drop it off a borla right away? or are you gunna play with it for a while?...:driving:

When?????????????

More to come on Monday, but here are some teaser pics :gr_devil:

Sorry RED888 looks like a lil more time:judge:

Still be down there tomorrow. To bad Magnusun is too busy. Did I spell that right? It's been so long I don't know.

it will be worth the wait... dont sweat it...

thats why I LOVE LIVING IN SO CALI we got from beaches to deserts, off-road to road racing, and 90 % of aftermarket support...

One more thing EXPENSIVE A** houses.... HAHA

What do A** houses have to do with it??? Maybe that's the problem down there in SO CALI
" EXPENSIVE A** houses". HAHA. That's what I'm talking about, support. Love to see a little.

I'm watching for this Magnusun Supercharger developments closely as well. I have purchased a complete new crate L76 engine here in Australia (USD3,200) from the Holden dealer. This is complete excluding the harness, AC compressor and idler pulleys/belts. It is the same as the engine in your G8 cars for the USA (DOD and all, ours was not activated). I'm using it in a replica car and want it supercharged with an intercooler. Its mated to a 2006 Ford GT transaxle so that it will handle the horsepower. I chose the L76 as it was cheap enough to buy two in case the first one explodes!

I have sent countless emails to Magnusun with no response (sales@magnusonproducts.com). Whipple on the other hand are very responsive to emails (tech@whipplesuperchargers.com) and are developing an installation for the L76. They are reporting it to be ready in June. Possible this can also be investigated for you guys in the States. I have visited HArrop in Australia, very good units but expensive and not really developed for the L76 at all (LS1/LS2).

As a note, the G8 is an excellent car, I was part of a team working on the 888's in san fran in Jan. My other car here is the Holden Special Vehicles (HSV) Senator. It is a great car, similar to the G8 but it uses a slighly more powerful engine and a differennt exhaust etc. Glad to see you guys liking the G8.

I will watch Magnusun's progess here on the Forum and see what happens, it may be better than trying to contact them directly. I expect it will be quite cost competitive compared to the Whipple alternative.

it will be worth the wait... dont sweat it...

thats why I LOVE LIVING IN SO CALI we got from beaches to deserts, off-road to road racing, and 90 % of aftermarket support...

One more thing EXPENSIVE A** houses.... HAHA

yeah but only one track that has very limited times open and is busy as all hell. and i don't know what you're talking about houses,what $437500.00 for 2bdrm 1bth 1056sqft house built in 1942? you have to pay to have a classic that old:nuts::barf:

I'm watching for this Magnusun Supercharger developments closely as well. I have purchased a complete new crate L76 engine here in Australia (USD3,200) from the Holden dealer. This is complete excluding the harness, AC compressor and idler pulleys/belts. It is the same as the engine in your G8 cars for the USA (DOD and all, ours was not activated). I'm using it in a replica car and want it supercharged with an intercooler. Its mated to a 2006 Ford GT transaxle so that it will handle the horsepower. I chose the L76 as it was cheap enough to buy two in case the first one explodes!

I have sent countless emails to Magnusun with no response (sales@magnusonproducts.com). Whipple on the other hand are very responsive to emails (tech@whipplesuperchargers.com) and are developing an installation for the L76. They are reporting it to be ready in June. Possible this can also be investigated for you guys in the States. I have visited HArrop in Australia, very good units but expensive and not really developed for the L76 at all (LS1/LS2).

As a note, the G8 is an excellent car, I was part of a team working on the 888's in san fran in Jan. My other car here is the Holden Special Vehicles (HSV) Senator. It is a great car, similar to the G8 but it uses a slighly more powerful engine and a differennt exhaust etc. Glad to see you guys liking the G8.

I will watch Magnusun's progess here on the Forum and see what happens, it may be better than trying to contact them directly. I expect it will be quite cost competitive compared to the Whipple alternative.

Feel free to e-mail me or call me brian@magnacharger.com 805-642-8833. No need to go another route, we have the work done. It is possible for e-mails to get caught up in the filter, I hope to hear from you soon.

Had a great trip to So Cal this weekend. Too bad Magnusun wouldn't let me look at Haddad's car, but from the way it sounds Haddad hasn't seen it lately either.

Thanks for all the work you did here in the states on the G8, especially my 888. Great car. Nice find - whipplesuperchargers.com

Had a great trip to So Cal this weekend. Too bad Magnusun wouldn't let me look at Haddad's car, but from the way it sounds Haddad hasn't seen it lately either.


I think you might have that wrong, its not that we would not let you look at Mike's car.....There is not anyone here on Saturday.

Anytime during the week you are welcome.

Still waiting on those updates BLOWNCHEVY....... :cartman:

Still waiting on those updates BLOWNCHEVY....... :cartman:

Progress:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4230001.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4230002.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4230003.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/P4230004.jpg

Nice, pics, nice work - thanks for posting!

It looks like a tight fit under the cowl at the rear of the supercharger. How much clearance do you have?

Blown G8 http://performancetrucks.net/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/leghump.gif

I think i should go visit you guys the day you start testing the car....
you can PM me when day that is so no one will get jealous>>>:rant:...



:gears:

Blown G8 http://performancetrucks.net/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/leghump.gif

Stop that! :nono: What would your mother say?

Stop that! :nono: What would your mother say?

She'd say, "You Dog!"

:gr_jest:

I am ready to part with many a shiney sheckle for a Magnacharger! Will there be an arm wrestling match to see who's first in line?:punch:

i cant wait guys these is going to be great

Should be running Friday/Monday.

Hey BlownChevy! Glad to see you're over at this forum too. This being my first post here, I can't wait to hear the results as this may make or break my decision to trade my car in for the G8!

She runs.....tuning starts tomorrow:gears:Sorry mike, you are going to need new tires.:gears:

First off I would like to say holly **** that looks sweet.

I can't wait to get to drive it.

Secondly for those of you that know you want this system asap.
I will have the very first systems on my shelf.
PLEASE SEND ME A PM IF YOUR ARE SERIOUS AND WE WILL MAKE SURE TO KEEP YOU POSTED ON AVAILABILITY.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

She runs.....tuning starts tomorrow:gears:Sorry mike, you are going to need new tires.:gears:

Its all good i figured it was ready for some slicks anyways.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Mike, drive it up to Vegas when it's done so you can get some real world driving experience with it...and take me for a ride of course.

Blown G8 http://performancetrucks.net/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/leghump.gif

BTW for those of you that were wondering, I reserved that for my license plate 3 weeks ago :). Sorry Cali peeps.

"BlownG8"

BTW for those of you that were wondering, I reserved that for my license plate 3 weeks ago :). Sorry Cali peeps.

"BlownG8"

Nice win. :gears:

Not that I was competing with you. It's hard to have a sleeper with a plate like that.

Wow Mike your G8 is among many 1st here. That's gonna be one sick G8. Keep it up and you'll have me delivering my future GXP straight to your shop.

Wow Mike your G8 is among many 1st here. That's gonna be one sick G8. Keep it up and you'll have me delivering my future GXP straight to your shop.

If my shop doesn't become the virtual Mecca for G8's than I have failed you guys as a shop owner.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

If my shop doesn't become the virtual Mecca for G8's than I have failed you guys as a shop owner.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

This car is stupid, crazy.....NUTS:gears:

Video and pics later. heh, post 69

Hey Brian if you think shes ready street legal drags are tommorow morning at fontana.

Some Running Video.....

I think the 0-60 is in the low 4 sec to high 3 second range. I am spinning the wheels in the video :gears:
FYI, that is the fans in the second video.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/th_G8Video.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/?action=view&current=G8Video.flv)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/th_G8Engine.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/?action=view&current=G8Engine.flv)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/Headon.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/Pulley.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/PasSide.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/DriverSide.jpg

On a side note, the AFM is active at this point......We are testing it out.

Nice pulley wrap. :D

Interesting about the AFM...I was thinking there should be no reason why it can't work...would be cool if it did.

Thanks Brian! :burnout:

Nice pulley wrap. :D

Interesting about the AFM...I was thinking there should be no reason why it can't work...would be cool if it did.

Thanks Brian! :burnout:

The initial testing on the trucks proved it might be an issue....however some new info has come to light that MIGHT allow us to run it:boink:

Now that's the kind of whiner I like! :p

good job!! you guys need a pig for the gxp?

That is incredibly sweet. I appreciate that someone isnt forgetting us CA owners and the fact we have to deal with these crappy smog laws. Think you'll be making a GXP version when the LS3 comes out?

Now that's the kind of whiner I like! :p
LMAO
good job!! you guys need a pig for the gxp?
You know it :)

That is incredibly sweet. I appreciate that someone isnt forgetting us CA owners and the fact we have to deal with these crappy smog laws. Think you'll be making a GXP version when the LS3 comes out?

The CARB number is coming:gears:

Did I miss some dyno numbers...or have we not heard any yet?

Did I miss some dyno numbers...or have we not heard any yet?

Next week.

"When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amore..."

I think I'm in love.........

:drool:

haha, all i have to say is mine better be done first mike!! Great progress over at maggie! Its gonna be fun arriving in full force as the terrors from Haddad

I think the 0-60 is in the low 4 sec to high 3 second range.
zoinks!!

Wow. Beautiful looking set-up. Can't wait to see the dyno numbers and a few runs down the dragstrip. Like the fact that it is all package nicely under the stock hood. Great work Magnacharger. :thumbsup:

:yumyum: :drool: :hail:

Hearing that whine coming from underhood of that thing would put instant fear in nearly any formidable competition at a stoplight!

Magnacharger would be complete fools if they didn't work their magic on the LS3 GXP version!!!!

And YES please post some hp figures!

Any plans on putting longtube headers on it?

:yumyum: :drool: :hail:

Hearing that whine coming from underhood of that thing would put instant fear in nearly any formidable competition at a stoplight!

Magnacharger would be complete fools if they didn't work their magic on the LS3 GXP version!!!!

And YES please post some hp figures!

Any plans on putting longtube headers on it?



We are looking for the first GXP here in so cal.:yumyum:

I am sure Mike has plans to take this car to its limits and beyond, I know as of right now it is an awsome performing vehicle with the pedders and the Magna Charger (just ask the New M5 owner this morning).

On a side note, got 200 miles on it with the AFM and all is well. 23.4 mpg average street/highway (more highway). I will admit that once you push the GO pedal, all bets are off.

On a side note, got 200 miles on it with the AFM and all is well. 23.4 mpg average street/highway (more highway). I will admit that once you push the GO pedal, all bets are off.

IMHO, this is a HUGE development!

Looks like a win, win, win, win situation! Nice Job!

:driving::turbonaughtdy_1:

IMHO, this is a HUGE development!

Looks like a win, win, win, win situation! Nice Job!

:driving::turbonaughtdy_1:

Still in the testing stages, but it does look promising.

Wow that is awesome!!! I am really considering a GT over the GXP because of this if they make a manual. I mean the 6.2L is a better engine but if DOD works that would be sweet. And the suspenion from the GT to GXP could all be replaced anyway with aftermarket parts. The gear change from the GT to GXP isnt that good, because the GT currently has 2.92 while the auto GXP is going to have 3.42 or so and manual 3.73, which would be way too much with a supercharger, you would never launch. Imagine a manual GT with a magnacharger, you would get some badass mileage and a lot of power. Add headers and a CAI and that would probably free up some ponies and some mileage too wouldnt it? Too bad I live in CA, going to be hard pressed before anything else good gets a CARB number.

How is the transmission holding up so far with the added power?

How is the transmission holding up so far with the added power?

I think Brian said they were on there 3rd or 4th tranny now.

J/K

As far as I know it is perfect and I'm willing to bet very good money it will be that way for a very very long time.

Well maybe not mine, but if I were to leave it the way maggie left it I believe it will last a very long time.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

The blower whine is intoxicating! Hats off to the people at Magnacharger, its extremely impressive to see the work progress so quickly and the fact that DOD is retained is just incredible!!!

That whine coupled with aftermarket exhaust is going to scare the gold chains of the Bimmer crowd.......


S.F.

How is the transmission holding up so far with the added power?

So far so good....and I have been floggin the car. (sorry mike).


Like I said earlier in the thread, if it were a 4L60-E I would be worried.

So what is this putting down? My guess would be around 430rwhp.

That would be a 50% increase from 280-290, which is what they usually put down stock. Maybe with exhaust and a tune to match? I do not think this kind of blower has that kind of max hp gain, usually they are more down low hp/torque than a high numbers centrifigul ( which is awesome for a daily driver ). I wonder how restrictive this system is because of the stock air box. Will us CA users see a CARB legal intake system from any manufacturer? I guess I can always put a non-CARB cold air intake and run it like that and throw the stock box back on first time I need to smog it, but will i need to get it retuned everytime I throw on and off an intake for it to run right?

That would be a 50% increase from 280-290, which is what they usually put down stock. Maybe with exhaust and a tune to match? I do not think this kind of blower has that kind of max hp gain, usually they are more down low hp/torque than a high numbers centrifigul ( which is awesome for a daily driver ).

This is the new TVS design. We have made over 800 HP on a forged 6.0 with this supercharger. This is not your grandfathers GMC blower:D
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/TVS/EfficiencyComparison.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/TVS/EFFICENCYMAP.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/TVS/R199TVSVEMAP.jpg

This is the new TVS design. We have made over 800 HP on a forged 6.0 with this supercharger. This is not your grandfathers GMC blower:D

Is that with the 1900 or the 2300 that you made 800HP? And was that Magnacharger or someone else? Just curious.

Is that with the 1900 or the 2300 that you made 800HP? And was that Magnacharger or someone else? Just curious.

We have made that (CRANK) with the 1900, duttweiler has done it as well.

I thought Dutweiler had done it with a 2300, didn't know it was a 1900 and that you guys had also. Very cool.

Pretty amazing...lots of potential with this blower.

I thought Dutweiler had done it with a 2300, didn't know it was a 1900 and that you guys had also. Very cool.

Pretty amazing...lots of potential with this blower.

The 2300 made 975 (so far).

So far so good....and I have been floggin the car. (sorry mike).


Like I said earlier in the thread, if it were a 4L60-E I would be worried.


Is the 60-e really as glass-jawed as its reported to be? What about the 4L80?



S.F.

Is the 60-e really as glass-jawed as its reported to be? What about the 4L80?



S.F.

I run a 60-E in my 2004 pick up, it lived for a while at 500RWHP. Once I stepped up to a forged 5.7L with the TVS it was toast.