F15eWeapon
03-19-2008, 11:36 PM
I scoped out a new Black GT at one of my local dealers today. There was a detailer working on it in the showroom trying to get grit and grime out of the grill. The paint was already swirled from its first washing!! Very soft clearcoat, no doubts there. Decent marring of the paint in spots already from an aggressive towel. I feel bad for the guys that gotta have black... it's going to be really hard to keep her right. I hope it something that's better on the other cars.
So my plea to you future owners... take the time to learn the least invasive wash method with 2 buckets and a grit guard. I'd be happy to explain in greater detail if anyone is curious. It's just a method of washing that will help cut down on the swirl making. And please... don't go thru an automatic wash... ever. Don't use a foaming brush...ever. Think of the children!:bomb:
Mr. Sandog
03-20-2008, 12:03 AM
Why don't you just detail what you know here once, rather than five times over email? :stickpoke:
f15eweapon, please post more details about your methods. Your knowledge could greatly help others on this site. Thanks in advance. On a side not I swore off black cars after my 2002 stang. They are nearly impossible to keep clean.
f15eweapon, please post more details about your methods. Your knowledge could greatly help others on this site. Thanks in advance. On a side not I swore off black cars after my 2002 stang. They are nearly impossible to keep clean.
I concur. :patriot:
F15eWeapon
03-20-2008, 12:36 PM
Giving in to demand... LOL.
Ok, it's fairly simple, but I'll detail this as much as possible. Modern day paint is nearly impossible to keep swirl free, but perscribing to these methods could increase the time between polishing if care is taken.
You should begin by washing your wheels first with an older wash mitt or brush using a completely separate bucket of water with soap. This way you won't get any spray from rinsing the wheels onto your freshly washed paint.
Then for paint:
Equipment: 2- 5 gal. buckets
1- Lambswool Mitt only (Real Lambswool is unique in that while effective at lifting dirt from the cars finish, it doesn't hold on to the particles when rinsed as well as any other type of wash mitt.)
A quality wash soap, such as Meguires gold class or Prima Mystique, both good for their high amount of lubricity.
Recommended in addition: 2 grit guards or dirt guards
Fill both buckets with water. Then add 5 oz. of soap to one bucket. This is of course now your soap bucket. Suds are not really necessary. Swirl your lambswool mitt to mix the soap well into the water.
For those of you that haven't seen them, grit or dirt guards (different types of the same principle) help in keeping the released particles washed off of the car down in the bottom of the bucket, so your mitt stays cleaner once you reapply it to the paint surface.
Start by hosing off the entire cars surface with a strong stream of water. This will help to loosen and remove the largest of the potentially paint scratching particles.
Then, get your mitt saturated with soapy water from the soap bucket, and start on the top of the vehicle. Try to wash in smaller sections than you're used to. If you would have normally washed the entire roof with one dip into the bucket, try it with this method into thirds instead.
Wipe the paint in a method similar to what you'd mop a floor with, using essentially a single swipe... not in an aggressive circular motion. Then, squeeze out the mitt, and rinse it very well in the clean water bucket. If you use a grit guard, don't be afraid to rub the mitt into the guard to help release collected particles. Be sure to then wring out the mitt over the rinse bucket so that when you dip it into the soapy water again, it's not already saturated and absorbs up more of the soapy water.
That's it guys... what you're accomplishing with this method of washing is reducing as much as possible the dirt on your paint from collecting in the mitt and scratching into the clearcoat.
Last but not least, dry the finish before the water has a chance to harden onto the paint. I suggest a high quality waffle weave microfiber towel or two.
Good luck!
4gasem
03-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Looking for a good source for this stuff? www.griotsgarage.com
I am not affiliated with them, but they do offer a lot of quality stuff.
I have had several black vehicles and I always use straight lines when cleaning, waxing, claying, and what not...
Scratch X by Meguiars is your friend as well. I have gone as far as wet sanding and polishing out imperfections. It's easy if you take it slow.
Cheers
F15eWeapon
03-20-2008, 01:40 PM
Looking for a good source for this stuff? www.griotsgarage.com
I am not affiliated with them, but they do offer a lot of quality stuff.
I have had several black vehicles and I always use straight lines when cleaning, waxing, claying, and what not...
Scratch X by Meguiars is your friend as well. I have gone as far as wet sanding and polishing out imperfections. It's easy if you take it slow.
Cheers
Girots is fantastic! I learned most of my stuff and picked up products from www.showcardetailing.com I'm also not affiliated, but it's a great place to learn tips and tricks to keep our rides looking better than new!
asylum
03-20-2008, 08:52 PM
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=42987
this is the way to keep black clean :D
F15eWeapon
03-20-2008, 11:59 PM
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=42987
this is the way to keep black clean :D
Stunning car and an amazing write-up from someone who definitely know what he's doing... great find asylum, thank you. :patriot:
4gasem
03-22-2008, 06:21 PM
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=42987
this is the way to keep black clean :D
That's a way to waste a whole weekend... I'm anal but that's just NUTZ!:bomb: