Last week the Orssom OTR intake I picked up off of Ebay Australia for less than half the original price, at about $366 total air mailed over, arrived.

It's exactly as I expected, and quite a piece. Actually, before I go any further, I must say I think it's a replica of some sort because it's dead on correct with the right design, pieces, finish, etc. but no actual Orssom insignias as seen on their pictures--unless they actually don't do that on production units anymore. Doesn't bother me, it's just even cleaner with no wording on it. So, as the title suggests, it might be a replica or it might be an Orssom...either way, exactly the same thing.

Construction is all out of fiberglass and 2 main pieces. There's the bottom "box" that the filter sits on top of, along a ledge, and then the outlet on the back that's in line with the TB when mounted. And then there's the top piece which gives it its "look" and holds it in place, on top of the unchanged from stock radiator & core support via 3 screws & clips attaching to 3 holes that are otherwise open on the G8--or where 3 of the radiator cover push pins would go in. The top is connected to the bottom shell by 4 screws and comes off in a snap. As for the filter, I've yet to find a model #, but it's a large rectangular K&N that lays horizontally.

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Except for the inner fiberglass view, it looks very OEM and largely takes the place of what a radiator cover would otherwise shroud--except for the far left & right sides. The best part is that it's an OTR but requires absolutely no modification of the radiator mounting, etc. That said, I'm also still unsure on flow, how it really works, etc. but users in Aussie and elsewhere seem impressed just like most people with most different intakes on a VE car.

The one thing I do have to add is a connection for the PCV line as there was none, but I picked up a 3/8" screw in stud from the plumbing department and will have to extend the hose/line to it. A test fit is in order eventually, too.

It remains in the box still, as I'm not going further until I get the tune update from VMS to go with it. They've of course never tested one of these, but had said we'd use a tune as spec'd for a New Era OTR and then could fine tune from that as needed. Once I get the update file, eventually, I'll probably get around to an install to see what this thing is like. I had a Volant before with my untuned car and had some weird issues with running rough, etc., but I think now with a proper tune to go with the intake, it should be fine and hopefully help out in ways with the tune to match.

I saw this and was debating getting it, looks really good! Lemme know how it fits I may have to order one also.

very fancy

very fancy

Hah, yes, as much as fiberglass painted black can be...it does have very nice lines.

One issue is that I just also bought & installed a Holden VE radiator cover that would have to come back off before this. Oh well. At least this thing should be easier to install than any intake, of any kind, especially an off to the side variety.

If I can buy it direct from Australia, I just like it more...hah. Especially if it's a great deal. Waiting on my VMS re-tune, whenever it arrives and then figuring out my PCV hose, etc. situation.

sorry if this is a dumb question, but is this the same unit that is on the JHP page for $700?

sorry if this is a dumb question, but is this the same unit that is on the JHP page for $700?

Not a dumb question at all. YES, it is, bought direct from a private seller in Australia via Ebay, for half the price.

It's fairly expensive down there too, even in $AUD. I always liked the design but would never spend so much, so when I saw this, just had to pick it up.

Wow that's great. I really liked how that one looked too but the 740 is way steep for a CAI. Great find...I'll be waiting to see what you think of it.

Nice Beach, as we knew it would be! :D
Why wait for the tune? I really can't see it would make that much of a difference. But, with your history with intakes...I don't blame you.

I'm glad the shipping and everything went well. Can't wait to hear some numbers!!!!!!!

Lets see it installed.

Nice Beach, as we knew it would be! :D
Why wait for the tune? I really can't see it would make that much of a difference. But, with your history with intakes...I don't blame you.

I'm glad the shipping and everything went well. Can't wait to hear some numbers!!!!!!!

Yes. I still have no idea what was going on with my car after installing the Volant before, however strange, but I've liked the car so much with everything stock and muffled in combo with the VMS tune alone, I'm not in a hurry yet. And would just rather wait to have the tune so it's as close to "right" as possible from the start.

We'll see--I definitely like how it looks already, for sure;)

One issue is that I just also bought & installed a Holden VE radiator cover that would have to come back off before this.

you could trim the cover for this configuration:

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r373/chrisbarwick7/OTRCAI/IMG_0008.jpg

you could trim the cover for this configuration:

Yep, absolutely. Once I get a chance to get it on and have the tune files to go with it, I want to try it out for a while and then I'll see what I think about hacking up that $100 radiator cover to finish it off.

I saw that intake when you were originally looking at it on ebay I was too. I'm going with this intake as soon as I gather some duckets.

I look foward to seeing this installed

So, where does this intake draw the air from? The other US made intakes that go over the radiator, including ours, move the radiator back so that air from outside the engine bay come in when accelerating, this doesn't appear to move the radiator so it just keeps pulling air from the engine bay?

I too like this intake but not the price. It is by far the most factory-like CAI in terms of appearance. Keep us updated! :)

So, where does this intake draw the air from? The other US made intakes that go over the radiator, including ours, move the radiator back so that air from outside the engine bay come in when accelerating, this doesn't appear to move the radiator so it just keeps pulling air from the engine bay?

Valid question and more than one of us has wondered the same, for sure. Apparently once the front weatherstrip under the hood is removed, it's whatever is coming through there. All the OTR's that generally tilt the radiator back and get the air from there, as does yours...but apparently there's been decent gains from this as well, and it's very popular in Australia, for sure. I'm still not 100% sure, but have been reading through some Aussie Holden forums, the Orssom site, etc. and it seems solid.

http://www.otrcai.com/images/imageModule/VE%20GenAiration%204/OTR4a.jpg
http://www.otrcai.com/images/imageModule/VE%20GenAiration%204/otr3.jpg

Oh, okay gotcha, you have to remove the front hood seal then, seems like quite a small air gap on the G8, especially with all the contours around the front of it on the G8 here in the U.S., but does have a stock like look.

Oh, okay gotcha, you have to remove the front hood seal then, seems like quite a small air gap on the G8, especially with all the contours around the front of it on the G8 here in the U.S., but does have a stock like look.

Yeah, we'll see. I was just thinking about the air inlet area to, i.e. the G8's 2 smaller grilles vs. one larger opening across a Holden or Chevy VE variant.

For the time being, we're still going to use VMS's parameters for your intake...well, if the VMS guys ever get around to sending me a new tune.

Well as much I like how "oem" that one looks...just too much money..so the NewEra OTR has been ordered. :D It needs to hurry up and get here!! Long journey to the west coast though :(

Yeah, we'll see. I was just thinking about the air inlet area to, i.e. the G8's 2 smaller grilles vs. one larger opening across a Holden or Chevy VE variant.

For the time being, we're still going to use VMS's parameters for your intake...well, if the VMS guys ever get around to sending me a new tune.

But that's the problem, you're not going to be pulling air through the grill. That area is pretty well sealed off from all of the install pics that have been posted with this intake in this thread and others. That leaves a narrow slit where the hood meets the grill, even after you remove the weather strip. And like has been mentioned before, our hood angles down more at the front...kind of like a bird's beak.

I can't help but think what driving with this intake with the weather strip removed is going to do in a heavy down pour.:dunno: At least the NEP OTR is quite sheltered. The rain doesn't have a direct path to it. It has a good chance of hitting the radiator turning the corner on the way up to get to the filter.

But, I think Mike's first post was right. It's likely going to pull air from the path of least resistance...the engine bay area.

Not a real fan of the shape of the lower half of the air box either. It appears wide and shallow with fairly blunt transitions. That's not conducive to smooth airflow and efficient use of the filter surface available.

Time and your testing will tell. Bet it does well on the dyno at least. :wink2:

You said you couldn't find a part # on the K&N filter? What are the measurements then? I'm curious as to how close they are to the one used in the NEP OTR.

lonewolfz28 - Yep, still a bit of uncertainty. I'm sure there's a # on the K&N filter somewhere, I just haven't dug into it enough to see. Lengthwise it might be the same or similar to the one New Era uses, but it's definitely wider just based on pictures--as it mounts horizontally vs. vertically.

So, where does this intake draw the air from? The other US made intakes that go over the radiator, including ours, move the radiator back so that air from outside the engine bay come in when accelerating, this doesn't appear to move the radiator so it just keeps pulling air from the engine bay?
You remove the weatherstripping from under the hood.
It then draws air though that gap.

There wasd a video on here at one time that showed a sheet of paper taped to the front of the car, and this intake was sucking the paper hard upon rev.

As Beach stated, this intake is huge down under on the Holden's and Orssom has been designing intakes for this platform for 2 years (I believe).

And for the price, it is not bad. I don't know what you guys are paying for your intakes, but lets just say $400 shipped (same with the VR after group buy). From Orssom, it is $500 shipped from Australia. Plus, as discussed before, it is like an intake and radiator cover all in one. Not bad when you look at the whole picture.

Tell whomever is doing the dyno test to run it with the hood closed.

K&N Filter 33-2640

I ordered one of these intakes off ebay.au as well. The guy I bought it from didn't have a filter for it so he gave two options (wait for the filter to arrive, then he would ship it or take $100AU off the price and I buy the filter).

So naturally, I didn't want to wait so I ordered it without the air filter and he gave me the filter model number. I picked up the filter for $40... Total cost to me was about $350USD shipped for the intake and filter.

We'll see how well it works out when it arrives. I am hoping superchips will have an OTR intake tune available by time it arrives... otherwise it may be time to switch to VMS.

I dont think SC is going to have their tunes available for some time.

Hmmm,

NEP OTR: K&N Part #33-2677 13.313"L x 3.875"W x .875"H (Replacement filter for mid-90's Mercedes S600 6.0L V-12)
Orssom OTR: K&N Part #33-2640 18.813"L x 5.688"W x 1.188"H (Replacement filter for 87-88 Porsche 944S 2.5L L-4)

So the Orssom OTR uses a significantly larger filter...Nice!

I dont think SC is going to have their tunes available for some time.

Supposedly, the final CAI system they were waiting on was in shipment so they were getting started on the testing back on the 8th. But then again, you already knew that since you posted in that thread: http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13454

I doubt it's going to take more than a week to complete all of the dyno testing so they can get the CAI's back to their owners. Then it should be just a matter of how long it takes them to finalize and release them. Figure another week or so for that and my guess would be around the end of April.

Hopefully it'll be before the 24th. Otherwise, they'd be a week too late for me since I'll be packing up my main computer with XP on it for shipment home and they still don't seem to have a downloader that works with Vista 64bit for my laptop.:(

So, unless they move quicker than my guess, no CAI specific tune for me until mid-May when I get settled in NY.

I think that video with the paper covering the grill was a Russo intake. To me the Russo has the best design of all the OTR's

Anyways, I had a hard time seeing how any OTR would work because the gap between the hood and front clip seems so small and restrictive. I took some leftover claybar clay and squashed it into a few areas to see what the gap really is. The width of the OTR looks to be about 17" The painted deck in front of the hood latch is about 1 3/8in or 23 3/8 sq/in, the painted area where it steps up (latch area) is about 3/4in or 12 3/4 sq/in. In a nutshell the area feeding the OTR is slightly larger than the MAF 12 1/2 sq/in and not much if any air restriction. I think the Orrsum design is better pulling in air than "ramming" it.

In a nutshell the area feeding the OTR is slightly larger than the MAF 12 1/2 sq/in and not much if any air restriction. I think the Orrsum design is better pulling in air than "ramming" it.

Essentially yes, from everything I've seen.

VMS sent me a new tune set up as if for a NEP OTR today, which should be much more in line than running it as stock, at least to start with. I just haven't had time to get it all out and make sure I get the PCV line barb in the right place, etc. Soon, though.

Oh, and this is with an Orssom, as the title/details state:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/orssom/th_VEGen4Video.jpg (http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/orssom/?action=view&current=VEGen4Video.flv)

Oh, and this is with an Orssom, as the title/details state:



I stand corrected. Thanks for the video link.

That video really doesn't prove much.

You've got the radiator fans doing the majority of the work of holding the paper tight to the grill. The tape is sealing the top edge to the front of the hood. Of course blipping the throttle is going to change the air pressure behind it enough move the paper a little bit because the radiator fans are holding the bottom enough to form a partial seal.

If it was just covering the grill without including the hood gap and doing that, then I'd believe it's pulling a significant amount of air from the grill area and not just the hood gap and engine bay.

Or, if it was cut to a length of ~6", taped to the hood like it is and being fully sucked into the gap, then I'd be impressed.:wink2:

Pretty weak vid if you ask me! lol...

Without Filter
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/orssom/VEGen4Box.jpg
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Last week the Orssom OTR intake I picked up off of Ebay Australia for less than half the original price, at about $366 total air mailed over, arrived.

It's exactly as I expected, and quite a piece. Actually, before I go any further, I must say I think it's a replica of some sort because it's dead on correct with the right design, pieces, finish, etc. but no actual Orssom insignias as seen on their pictures--unless they actually don't do that on production units anymore. Doesn't bother me, it's just even cleaner with no wording on it. So, as the title suggests, it might be a replica or it might be an Orssom...either way, exactly the same thing.

Construction is all out of fiberglass and 2 main pieces. There's the bottom "box" that the filter sits on top of, along a ledge, and then the outlet on the back that's in line with the TB when mounted. And then there's the top piece which gives it its "look" and holds it in place, on top of the unchanged from stock radiator & core support via 3 screws & clips attaching to 3 holes that are otherwise open on the G8--or where 3 of the radiator cover push pins would go in. The top is connected to the bottom shell by 4 screws and comes off in a snap. As for the filter, I've yet to find a model #, but it's a large rectangular K&N that lays horizontally.

Except for the inner fiberglass view, it looks very OEM and largely takes the place of what a radiator cover would otherwise shroud--except for the far left & right sides. The best part is that it's an OTR but requires absolutely no modification of the radiator mounting, etc. That said, I'm also still unsure on flow, how it really works, etc. but users in Aussie and elsewhere seem impressed just like most people with most different intakes on a VE car.

The one thing I do have to add is a connection for the PCV line as there was none, but I picked up a 3/8" screw in stud from the plumbing department and will have to extend the hose/line to it. A test fit is in order eventually, too.

It remains in the box still, as I'm not going further until I get the tune update from VMS to go with it. They've of course never tested one of these, but had said we'd use a tune as spec'd for a New Era OTR and then could fine tune from that as needed. Once I get the update file, eventually, I'll probably get around to an install to see what this thing is like. I had a Volant before with my untuned car and had some weird issues with running rough, etc., but I think now with a proper tune to go with the intake, it should be fine and hopefully help out in ways with the tune to match.

By any chance, did you ever get around to installing this or test fitting it?

Do you have a picture of the 3/8 PCV screw that you had to buy (I didn't get one either)? Where are you installing the PCV hose/screw? Are you just going to drill a hole on the back of the intake and use the 3/8 screw there?

Like in this picture:
http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3580&stc=1&d=1240520518

The guy also forgot to include the screws and clips in mine, so I have to go pick some of those up at the store too... I am going to use your pictures as reference :)