Haddad Motorsports is proud to announce that we are now the proud owners of the 1st pedderized G8.

Here are a few pics of the install with many more details to come.

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nice! now you only need some bigger, badder brakes!

That looks great! the stance is perfect! when you get a chance, would u mind posting a few more after pictures in the day time? :)

I don't like the stance at all... The rear tires are almost tucked up into the fender while the front still looks like it has a couple inches of gap. That squatted look would drive me crazy if it was my car.

But I guess the performance is the more important part. Was this their track II setup? How is it? How does it handle bumps and variations in the pavement? What was the effect on body roll?

Had to be a rough day at work if you guys were posting at 3 a.m. :coffee: I'm not offended by the factory stance at all. I'd better be looking for some factory ride height Pedders equipment. I was intrigued by the rear spring/shock setup. It looks like the whole spring perch bolts to the unibody. No more spring compressors for the rear spring swap? That would be sweet.

Yeah, I really don't want a drop (like the stance of stock), but want a much stiffer setup.

looks awesome, cant wait to see if the front settles. do you guys plan on making another setup that may lower it another inch or so? just curious. again, i love the stance!

chrish

p.s. very curios as to how those stock wheels would look in a matte black or gloss black finish...

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Was one of the stock mounts damaged/compressed?

I don't like the stance at all... The rear tires are almost tucked up into the fender while the front still looks like it has a couple inches of gap. That squatted look would drive me crazy if it was my car.

But I guess the performance is the more important part. Was this their track II setup? How is it? How does it handle bumps and variations in the pavement? What was the effect on body roll?

The setup on my car is basically australian spec.
With in the next couple of months we should have a wide variety of different setups avialable for the G8 cars, just as we do with the GTO's.

If you guys want stock height with better handling and comfort, we'll have it. If ya want stink bug we'll have it. If ya want slammed all the way around we'll have it. etc, etc

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Had to be a rough day at work if you guys were posting at 3 a.m. :coffee: I'm not offended by the factory stance at all. I'd better be looking for some factory ride height Pedders equipment. I was intrigued by the rear spring/shock setup. It looks like the whole spring perch bolts to the unibody. No more spring compressors for the rear spring swap? That would be sweet.

It was not only a rough day but a ruff week.

Sorry to burst your bubble but your going to need a spring compressor to do the rear struts.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

looks awesome, cant wait to see if the front settles. do you guys plan on making another setup that may lower it another inch or so? just curious. again, i love the stance!

chrish

p.s. very curios as to how those stock wheels would look in a matte black or gloss black finish...

Hehe its as if you read our minds. We were thinking about painting them either gunmetal or flat black just to hold us over till we get our fatty 20"s on her.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Was one of the stock mounts damaged/compressed?

As per GTO spec we did notice that one of the strut mounts was slightly compressed.

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Mike Haddad

As per GTO spec we did notice that one of the strut mounts was slightly compressed.

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Mike Haddad

Thank you for the answer. the vehicle only had a few hundred miles correct?

Thank you for the answer. the vehicle only had a few hundred miles correct?

The suspension install was done around 500 miles

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Mike Haddad

Hehe its as if you read our minds. We were thinking about painting them either gunmetal or flat black just to hold us over till we get our fatty 20"s on her.

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Mike Haddad

either would suit me :drool:

also glad to hear that you will offer an extremely low stance in the lineup! i like how you guys operate! :)

chrish

either would suit me :drool:

also glad to hear that you will offer an extremely low stance in the lineup! i like how you guys operate! :)

chrish

We aim to please.

We realize that some people like chocolate and some like vanilla.

Which ever you choose our job is to offer you the best chocolate or vanilla on the market.

We don't just pass the word on that our manufactures ingrave in our heads. We're car guys and were more than happy to beat up on the parts before you get them, so that we know that our customers are getting the best.

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Mike Haddad

Mike, when you were doing the lowering, did you notice that the drivers side wheel/tire set farther forward in the fenderwell then the passenger side? That drives me crazy and affects the wheel setup and tire sizes you could run. Do you have a rear spring that doesn't drop the car as far down, simular to the way it lowered it in the front? I don't like that, I like the opening above the tire to look the same. I did an eibach pro kit on my 300 c and it was perfectly balanced. Are there different setups that you offer? Who builds that particular spring that you are using and what do a set of spring run?
locrzn

Mike, when you were doing the lowering, did you notice that the drivers side wheel/tire set farther forward in the fenderwell then the passenger side? That drives me crazy and affects the wheel setup and tire sizes you could run. Do you have a rear spring that doesn't drop the car as far down, simular to the way it lowered it in the front? I don't like that, I like the opening above the tire to look the same. I did an eibach pro kit on my 300 c and it was perfectly balanced. Are there different setups that you offer? Who builds that particular spring that you are using and what do a set of spring run?
locrzn

No we did not notice any bias to any side in particular.
The car also aligned out perfectly when we were all said and done.

Pedders offers a multidude of springs that we will have in stock shortly. The springs run at $89.96 a piece.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

How well will the modest lowering springs work with the stock dampers? On the Grand Prix guys using stock dampers with eibach springs would get a pogo effect. The better aftermarket dampers or the Comp g or GXP bilstiens did not suffer pogo.

Mine is within a 1/8 of being perfectly spaced in the opening on the passenger side. Which is just about 2.5 on each side of the tire.
On the drivers side it is 2 3/8 in front of the tire and 2 7/8 behind the tire. This is screwed up. I guess the only way I'm going to find out is take it to an alignment shop and check the wheel base. Maybe the openings are off. I tried to measure the wheel base, but, its kinda hard to do. If anyone out there can check their opening and let me know I would appreciate it. Mine is very noticable to the eye. You should also be able to see yours without even putting a tape on it. Let me know if mine is the only one fd up. Mike if this is your car or a customers that is close, please check yours. This is nuts.
locrzn

Ok...............how does it handle compared to stock?

same strut mounts as the GTO? oh no.......:banghead::slap:

same strut mounts as the GTO? oh no.......:banghead::slap:

Well, at least there will be one company ready to fix that oversight. :p

lol. What is stink bug?

lol. What is stink bug?


Its a forward raking stance. Like the old drag cars where the back of the car is higher then the front.

Steve

What is wrong with GTO strut mounts?

What is wrong with GTO strut mounts?

The GTO strut mount had the same problem as the rest of the bushings on the GTO. It was somewhat week.
Now lets assume that you started off with a good set of factory strut mounts and all you did was drive the car to work everyday in a legal fashion. You would probably never notice a problem. Unfortunately when they get shipped over here from Australia the cars get strapped down to the ship extremely aggressively and thus most of the gto's that came here had damaged strut mounts right off the dealer lot.

Now if your a performance enthusiast who happens to have sticky tires all around and like to push the car to its limits your gona start to notice that you have what I call a variable geometry suspension. Not good. Maybe in the future we'll have computer controlled geometry. But for now i want it to do what i tell it to do, not have to react to what the all the slop in bushings are forcing me to respond to.

Thats why Pedders should be your only choice for suspension, its far more than just shocks and springs, its a complete solution for your vehicle. And that goes all the way from grandma and grandpa, to your full on track enthusiast.

BTW. Since I installed the suspension on my car I havn't had time to properly flog it (car went imediatly to magnacharger).But the car feels like it on rails just throwin it around local streets. Still very comfortable on my drive to magnusson.

As soon as I get the car back in my hands anyone will be more than welcomed to take it for a spin.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

What is wrong with GTO strut mounts?

mike said it correct,problem is even the pedders mounts collapse after a certain amount of time and use also :stormtrooper:

The car also aligned out perfectly when we were all said and done.

How did you check and/or align the subframes?