Has anyone else tried to order another flip key/fob? I tried to and they told me they don't make them anymore.

Might be due to the new keyless entry system

I thought about that too. But, It's a brand new car , are all the parts going to be this difficult to get?

With the push button start coming on the '09's it's going to be hard to get an extra flip key since they're going to stop making those.

With the push button start coming on the '09's it's going to be hard to get an extra flip key since they're going to stop making those.

Push button start? What? That's news to me. Link or source?

I still think they would make the flip key even with push button start on its way.

With the push button start coming on the '09's it's going to be hard to get an extra flip key since they're going to stop making those.

when did they announce push button start on the G8s???

when did they announce push button start on the G8s???

Don't have a clue... My '08 has the remote start. Is that what their talking about?? Or is it the push button start like some Ferrari's and other higher end cars have, were you only gotta have the "key" within a certain distance to hit the "On" button to start the car??

Don't have a clue... My '08 has the remote start. Is that what their talking about?? Or is it the push button start like some Ferrari's and other higher end cars have, were you only gotta have the "key" within a certain distance to hit the "On" button to start the car??

I think they are talking about the remote start like in the vettes and bmw's and even the altima's in which you just keep the key in your pocket and pust the START button. Pretty much what you said...:)

There was no announcement for a push button start

Even the GXP interior doesn't have push button.

Besides does it really hurt to turn your key?

If anyone has luck finding one please post. My other half was wanting one...

I dont mind turning the key...however push button start is SO cool. Oh well...remote start is cooler!

Sorry guys, I could not resist the April Fools prank. You're right, no push button!

Sorry guys, I could not resist the April Fools prank. You're right, no push button!

And you post that on the 31st?

It was already April fools in Australia where our G8 is being built. Sometimes I can't keep myself from jumping the gun.

You all suck. Push button is cool. Even cooler is unlocking your doors from the outside with your keys still in your pocket and your hands full of whatever.

I for one wasn't following this thread after seeing Cashed's rainbow avatar.

Ashley2dance did you try at your dealer?

On one set of keys is a white plastic tag - call the dealer and tell them to order you a new key and give them that number on the plastic tag. The dealer should call GM to have the key made and sent to the dealer where you can pick it up.

The involved process actually makes sense - if you could just order a key based on a VIN number then I'd just copy down a VIN from one on the lot and order a key and then some dark night...

I understand from the dealer that the processis MUCH more involved if you don't have the white plastic tag -- but your dealer should have told you about keeping it when you picked up the car.

And no, this is not an April Fools prank.

Does the car come with one flip key and the second is a fixed blade.

Does the car come with one flip key and the second is a fixed blade.

That's correct. Also, comes with a key for the glovebox.

The glovebox has a seperate key? Weird.

I have said tag, but, the dealer still claims it's discontinued. I want the flip key/fob. The 3rd key isa valet.

I can't see why the aussie flip key wont work. Just need to get it cut then replace the fixed blade section with the flip key. Anyone want to try it out then PM me

Ashley2dance did you try at your dealer?


The dealers around here are clueless. And to add to that, he actually wants just a blank key.

My girlfriends new Murano has the push button. I have to place the fob in the dash, push the brake and THEN push the button. Stupid. I'l turn a key. Now if it was the style that the key could be in my pocket, that would be sweet.

My girlfriends new Murano has the push button. I have to place the fob in the dash, push the brake and THEN push the button. Stupid. I'l turn a key. Now if it was the style that the key could be in my pocket, that would be sweet.
There's a security in knowing that you need a physical key to operate it. That's not to say it can't be hotwired, but... :popcorn2:

My girlfriends new Murano has the push button. I have to place the fob in the dash, push the brake and THEN push the button. Stupid. I'l turn a key. Now if it was the style that the key could be in my pocket, that would be sweet.

Umm NO it just has to be in range, like your pocket. Opens the door by pushing the button, then touch break and push the button. The fab slot is only if the fab battery goes dead. I have the push button on my Altima coupe and its awesome!

Olly, Thanks for the offer! However, The fob for the fixed key is a different size then the one for the flip key.

Talked withe dealer again and they say their still looking.

Has anyone else tried to order another flip key/fob? I tried to and they told me they don't make them anymore.

I have said tag, but, the dealer still claims it's discontinued. I want the flip key/fob.

The parts catalog is showing the Flip Key-Cut as being discontinued.

The GM system says the number is good, vendor stocked, but out of stock.


The GM System says the Flip Key-Uncut is in stock in the GM system (not confirmed).

Thanks again small dealer!

The involved process actually makes sense - if you could just order a key based on a VIN number then I'd just copy down a VIN from one on the lot and order a key and then some dark night...

It's not that easy anymore. At the Chevy dealership next door to where I work, you are required to have 4 items in order for them to order & cut a key. Current registration, driver's license, & I can't remember the other 2. But, it makes me feel better knowing this. When I first got my GTO, I heard the VIN writing theory & covered mine up in the dashboard. :nono:

The FBI got heavily involved in the key cutting process about a year ago... they even marched into some dealerships that werent following this procedure and rounded everyone up.

Im sure these procedures are clear now... right smalldealer?:p

It's not that easy anymore. At the Chevy dealership next door to where I work, you are required to have 4 items in order for them to order & cut a key. Current registration, driver's license, & I can't remember the other 2. But, it makes me feel better knowing this. When I first got my GTO, I heard the VIN writing theory & covered mine up in the dashboard. :nono:

The Official GM requirements for obtaining Key Codes are:

Valid Picture ID and Vehicle Registration to verify owner name and VIN.

Then the dealer can ask you for whatever else they need to CYA.

Just checked with a dealer here in Fort Worth area and he said that he could get me an additional flip key for the small price of $146. Little steep for me considering the 2nd key is in my wife's possession and she never drives my cars. But, for your info it is still available. The break down of the price is 39.77 for the flip key and 107.02 for the transmitter.

ouch-o.

You can say that again! My dealer said he could find the flip for $25, but not the fob.
He's still looking.

You all suck. Push button is cool. Even cooler is unlocking your doors from the outside with your keys still in your pocket and your hands full of whatever.

If your hands are full how do you open the door? :p

Just checked with a dealer here in Fort Worth area and he said that he could get me an additional flip key for the small price of $146. Little steep for me considering the 2nd key is in my wife's possession and she never drives my cars. But, for your info it is still available. The break down of the price is 39.77 for the flip key and 107.02 for the transmitter.

Expensive... Yes?? But then again how much are you willing to pay for security? I replaced 3 deadbolts in my new home with 3 Medeco deadbolts for $350bux.

Even though nothing is theft proof, but it's certainly nice to know that the car has such good security procedures in place to at least make it that much more difficult to steal it.

Have we become so lazy that we can't insert and turn a key ???? :dunno:

Expensive... Yes?? But then again how much are you willing to pay for security? I replaced 3 deadbolts in my new home with 3 Medeco deadbolts for $350bux.

Even though nothing is theft proof, but it's certainly nice to know that the car has such good security procedures in place to at least make it that much more difficult to steal it.

Also consider that Australian security systems may function slightly different from the ones here. So, whatever knowledge they have of defeating the US GM security systems might not work.

Expensive... Yes?? But then again how much are you willing to pay for security? I replaced 3 deadbolts in my new home with 3 Medeco deadbolts for $350bux.

Even though nothing is theft proof, but it's certainly nice to know that the car has such good security procedures in place to at least make it that much more difficult to steal it.

Yeah but "upgrading" my second key to a flip key is not going to increase or decrease the security. And if someone wants what you have bad enough, they will get it and make it look easy...or they will destroy it trying to steal it...had that happen before.:cursin:

Yeah but "upgrading" my second key to a flip key is not going to increase or decrease the security. And if someone wants what you have bad enough, they will get it and make it look easy...or they will destroy it trying to steal it...had that happen before.:cursin:

Unless I'm mistaken from your previous posts, the actual "Flip" part of the key is the cheap $30 part.. You can take the fixed key's "Chip" out and install it in the "Flip" key..


Then again a new problem emerges.. Will the dealer sell the "Flip" key without the chip???

Then again a new problem emerges.. Will the dealer sell the "Flip" key without the chip???

No. He said that both pieces had to be purchased. I guess he broke down the pricing to me as some form of justification. The key part (made to flip) comes from Australia (who knows how long that would take to get here) and the transmitter from Michigan. The dealer has to assemble both, per the dealers reply email. He was nice enough to offer to mate the new key receiver to my car. after 146 bucks (plus tax), wasnt that nice of him?? :barf:

No. He said that both pieces had to be purchased. I guess he broke down the pricing to me as some form of justification. The key part (made to flip) comes from Australia (who knows how long that would take to get here) and the transmitter from Michigan. The dealer has to assemble both, per the dealers reply email. He was nice enough to offer to mate the new key receiver to my car. after 146 bucks (plus tax), wasnt that nice of him?? :barf:

your dealer = :bs:
All info on the key in the Owner manual ….
And how to assemble and program both parts
and NO there is no need to order both parts ... you can use transmitter from your second key

Anyone get the flip yet?

No. He said that both pieces had to be purchased. I guess he broke down the pricing to me as some form of justification. The key part (made to flip) comes from Australia (who knows how long that would take to get here) and the transmitter from Michigan. The dealer has to assemble both, per the dealers reply email. He was nice enough to offer to mate the new key receiver to my car. after 146 bucks (plus tax), wasnt that nice of him?? :barf:

Oh okay I misunderstood. My car came with one.. I figured it was probably expensive(around $50bux is what I was thinking), didn't figure it was that much... So I guard that sucker like a hawk...

Anyone get the flip yet?yep, a flip key comes with the car.....not sure why you are asking.

For my wife. The other key is big.

your dealer = :bs:
All info on the key in the Owner manual ….
And how to assemble and program both parts
and NO there is no need to order both parts ... you can use transmitter from your second key


That's the way I understand it also.

Makes me wonder. Will G8s from '09 & on have only non-flip keys? Or still offer 1 flip & 1 non-flip?

Makes me wonder. Will G8s from '09 & on have only non-flip keys? Or still offer 1 flip & 1 non-flip?

Supposedly the 2009 G8 will come with 2-way advanced remote start. I assume that this will take the place of the flip key. Whether or not this toy is actually available by the time the 2009 MY cars arrive is kind of a question mark. If 2-way advanced remote start is not ready in time, I would hope that they keep shipping the car with the flip key. I can't imagine why they wouldn't.

Supposedly the 2009 G8 will come with 2-way advanced remote start. I assume that this will take the place of the flip key. Whether or not this toy is actually available by the time the 2009 MY cars arrive is kind of a question mark. If 2-way advanced remote start is not ready in time, I would hope that they keep shipping the car with the flip key. I can't imagine why they wouldn't.the 2 way advanced remote start is a dealer installed accessory from the info (poster boards when showing the car) previously discussed on this forum, it is not from the factory this way.

Did you all know when you turn the key to start, all you have to to is leave it ther for one sec. The computer apears to take over running the starter.

Try it yourself

Insert key
turn to start for a a short second
don't hold it like you would in mostly all other cars
listen for the starter turning th engine over

Just wanted to add that

Did you all know when you turn the key to start, all you have to to is leave it ther for one sec. The computer apears to take over running the starter.

Try it yourself

Insert key
turn to start for a a short second
don't hold it like you would in mostly all other cars
listen for the starter turning th engine over

Just wanted to add that


yup, I imagine most new cars do that, I noticed my GP does it.

My 04 GTP did the same. I think this has been like that on GM's for a while.

Talked to my dealer when I purchased the vehicle and they threw one into the deal. When I asked them what it would have cost, they told me it was around $250. I don't understand why they just don't give you two flip keys to begin with.

My friend's Mercedes convertible has the push button start and it is SWEET. Then again, the car cost $100K....

mlott132 did you get your additional key upon pickup or are you waiting for it? Also, where is your dealer? Thnx

There was no announcement for a push button start

Even the GXP interior doesn't have push button.

Besides does it really hurt to turn your key?



Well, I might break a nail while turning the key. ;)

The FBI got heavily involved in the key cutting process about a year ago... they even marched into some dealerships that werent following this procedure and rounded everyone up.

Im sure these procedures are clear now... right smalldealer?:p

Why would the FBI give a rat's a$$ how GM cuts keys?

The 3rd key isa valet.

NOT TRUE!!! The salesguy tried to tell my wife and I this and I thought, I don't think so..it looks totally different. TRY putting it in the door lock or ignition! IT WON'T FIT!!! It ONLY fits the glovebox!

Also, the transmitter on the 2nd key is of a different design than that of the flip key, so you can't just stick that on there.

Also, the transmitter on the 2nd key is of a different design than that of the flip key, so you can't just stick that on there.

The same transmitter is listed as being used for the flip and fixed keys.

It may be listed as the same, but, they are different sizes.

It may be listed as the same, but, they are different sizes.


Then you must have got out a mircrometer and a magnifing glass to find any differences.

They look the same to me and the parts book.

I thought the top of the transmitter was different, but I just compared keys again and they are the same. It just looks weird because the split lines for the key/fob make it look a different size. Now I might have to see about getting a flip key and swapping the transmitter since the fixed blade huge key sucks carrying around in your pocket.

Now I might have to see about getting a flip key and swapping the transmitter since the fixed blade huge key sucks carrying around in your pocket.

Now you know how GTO owners have felt. :D

Glad I never traded my Camaro SS for a GTO like I was originally planning when they came out in 04.

Glad I never traded my Camaro SS for a GTO like I was originally planning when they came out in 04.

Other than the key fob thing, I don't see why that wouldn't have been a bad trade.

Because my SS spanks the crap out of GTO's and it's stock. Besides, I have a ton of fun with my Camaro club. I don't know of any GTO clubs around here.

Because my SS spanks the crap out of GTO's and it's stock. Besides, I have a ton of fun with my Camaro club. I don't know of any GTO clubs around here.

Then you haven't met a GTO driver worth his clutch. And there are a few GTO clubs in Michigan. Trust me. I've heard of them. :gr_jest:

My friend's Mercedes convertible has the push button start and it is SWEET. Then again, the car cost $100K....


Back in the seventies, my 1976 Honda motorcycle had push-button start, and I think I only paid $1,100.00 for it.

Because my SS spanks the crap out of GTO's and it's stock. Besides, I have a ton of fun with my Camaro club. I don't know of any GTO clubs around here.
:bs: Like sccaGTO said you never met a GTO with a driver in it I never had any stock camero SS that beat my GTO and it's stock.:driving:

You guys must not have met any Camaro drivers that can drive. I've yet to see a stock or even mildly modded GTO get much quicker than 13.5. Guys that have added nitrous or a SC or turbo are a different story. I've been 12.98 on street tires and 12.69 on drag radials.

You guys must not have met any Camaro drivers that can drive. I've yet to see a stock or even mildly modded GTO get much quicker than 13.5. Guys that have added nitrous or a SC or turbo are a different story. I've been 12.98 on street tires and 12.69 on drag radials.

Sounds like you need to take a road trip. My LS2 GTO has run a best of 13.02. :D I still have the time slip if you want proof.

Haha...back on topic...anybody get a flip key yet?

Pick mine up at the end of the month.