: Holden VE 3.6 (Pontiac G8 LY7) Supercharger
BN3RNG8 06-21-2009, 10:51 PM Capa Performance in Australia has supercharger kits for the V6.
Yes, it works with the Pontiac LY7 engines.
I just contacted one of their reps and it, indeed, works entirely with the Holden VE 3.6, aka, Pontiac G8 LY7. The only thing is, an entirely seperate ECU will be neccessary to run this, thus making it necessary to have a 'piggy-back' style system.
In toital, should be about $6,400 for this entire system, but I am not entirely sure as to what the shipping costs would come to.
Going to give a call to my buddy's auto ship and see if they wouldn't mind learning up on this install.
Will keep you all updated.
Chief 06-22-2009, 08:47 AM Magnason has been thinking of doing one as well but no joy as of yet. I think once the code on the controller is broke, then we may see more things come around here in the states.
I'll give a call to a guy I know who works there and see what he has to say. They are just down the street from me. ;)
menace 06-22-2009, 04:44 PM You should and try to get a vendor to buy this for you. They will get a discount for being a trade...
Rayvan 06-22-2009, 05:00 PM What kind of HP improvement are you looking at?
BN3RNG8 06-22-2009, 05:33 PM What kind of HP improvement are you looking at?
275kW = 368.78HP.
Rated Horsepower of Kit: 265-275kW ===> 355.37-368.78HP
Good numbers if you ask me.
jz10f0 06-22-2009, 10:32 PM FYI 1 KW= 1000 watts
745.7 watts = 1 HP
275 kw X 1000 = 275,000 / 745.7 = 368.78 HP
Ok Ok so I like math
BN3RNG8 06-22-2009, 10:33 PM I used a random online website translator.
menace 06-22-2009, 10:36 PM It will have the same HP as a GT. Not sure about Torque levels???
BN3RNG8 06-22-2009, 10:38 PM Nope they didn't state the torque...
Derekprz 06-23-2009, 08:54 PM That would be sweet. A sleeper V-6 G8 that may hold its own on a stock GT.
durdey09g8 06-29-2009, 11:49 PM I wonder if it is really worth spending over $7000 (with shipping) to have something that will KEEP UP with a GT? Why not just get the GT to start with, it would be the same price and your warranty would still be intact.
BN3RNG8 06-30-2009, 08:55 AM Refer to the other thread labled 'Why V6 not GT'.
A) Most of us could not afford a GT at the time.
B) Some of us, such as myself, didn't have an option as a V8 due to insurance rates.
C) Got a sweet discounted deal on the LY7.
D) I got the V6 for free as a graduation gift/first car, so I am happy with it regardless. Plus, it is easier for me to do work on it as long as the parents are at work
I am not worried about keeping up with a GT. Not many G8's are in my area, anyways. I just want to make due with what I can. My warranty is not a worry seeing as though a family friend owns the Dealership.
Chief 06-30-2009, 01:21 PM BN3RNG8,
You forgot E) Why be like everyone else and have a V8. Be different and do something out of the norm with a V6. :driving:
BN3RNG8 06-30-2009, 01:27 PM Chief, I know gayness is illegalized in California again, but will you marry me?
(No homo)
rob300s 07-05-2009, 04:43 AM i bought the V6 cause they ran out of the V8's but too me it didnt matter what engine i got i just wanted a magnetic grey G8
Hardware 07-05-2009, 10:59 AM Chief, I know gayness is illegalized in California again, but will you marry me?
(No homo)
Did I just read that?? the First G8 online forum Homo :boink: marrage proposal?
Chief 07-06-2009, 08:47 AM Chief, I know gayness is illegalized in California again, but will you marry me?
(No homo)
LMAO
Got to keep the V6 love going.:driving:
prophetxxx 01-01-2010, 05:55 PM same issue with me there were no mor v8s near by and i just wanted the car the way it looks just wish the v6 had a little more pick up than what it has
duffman 01-02-2010, 06:40 AM The CAPA system runs on a Vortech V2 supercharger. Why not just buy the V2 or V5 on eBay for 500? Any local shop can fabricate a mounting bracket for you, any a do it yourself piping kit only runs about 150. I replicated the entire CAPA system with parts off racingjunk.com, summit, and eBay for under 1500. Just something to think about.
squat 01-02-2010, 09:50 PM So here's my plan:
1. You can buy tuner software from HPTuners, our car is listed on their site as supported: http://www.hptuners.com/products/vcmsuite_vehicles.php - this is not a tune, but software that allows you to modify any of your settings, thus creating a custom tune.
2. You can buy turbos from a number of places, I am looking at one (or two) of these: http://www.turboneticsinc.com/t3-t4b_turbochargers
3. I'll take the tuning software and turbos to a local speed shop that has a dyno and have them plumb the turbos and tune my car. (I figure total cost will be about 5k and can reach well over 400 HP with the turbos).
4. I'll probably blow up my transmission within a week or two so I'll need to have the trans beefed up at a local trans shop - dunno how much that'll cost.
So that's my plan. I don't plan on doing any of this for another year or two because I don't want to void the powertrain warranty until I know I'll have the extra cash to fix it myself - so for now it'll be interior upgrades and exterior looks.
gman1227 01-02-2010, 11:01 PM that sounds like a pretty good plan to me wish i had the cash for that:D
squat 01-03-2010, 09:20 AM that sounds like a pretty good plan to me wish i had the cash for that:D
Yeah, at least it's a lot cheaper than the OZ kit mentioned by the OP and should produce a lot more HP at the same time.
radkon 01-04-2010, 08:01 AM So here's my plan:
1. You can buy tuner software from HPTuners, our car is listed on their site as supported: http://www.hptuners.com/products/vcmsuite_vehicles.php - this is not a tune, but software that allows you to modify any of your settings, thus creating a custom tune.
2. You can buy turbos from a number of places, I am looking at one (or two) of these: http://www.turboneticsinc.com/t3-t4b_turbochargers
3. I'll take the tuning software and turbos to a local speed shop that has a dyno and have them plumb the turbos and tune my car. (I figure total cost will be about 5k and can reach well over 400 HP with the turbos).
4. I'll probably blow up my transmission within a week or two so I'll need to have the trans beefed up at a local trans shop - dunno how much that'll cost.
So that's my plan. I don't plan on doing any of this for another year or two because I don't want to void the powertrain warranty until I know I'll have the extra cash to fix it myself - so for now it'll be interior upgrades and exterior looks.
One problem with your plan, HP Tuners doesn't support the G8 V6 yet. :whine:
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25619&highlight=g8
squat 01-04-2010, 07:58 PM One problem with your plan, HP Tuners doesn't support the G8 V6 yet. :whine:
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25619&highlight=g8
Thanks for doing that research. My plan has not changed though, I expect a tune will be available by the time I'm ready to do this.
menace 01-19-2010, 08:26 AM Seeing that they cracked the factory ecu on the V6 and i can see this being done more easily now. Even going with bigger injectors too.
igneon 01-19-2010, 08:40 AM I wonder if it is really worth spending over $7000 (with shipping) to have something that will KEEP UP with a GT? Why not just get the GT to start with, it would be the same price and your warranty would still be intact.
Or trade the V6 for a GT?
This thread is silly.
radkon 01-19-2010, 09:27 AM Seeing that they cracked the factory ecu on the V6 and i can see this being done more easily now. Even going with bigger injectors too.
"They" who? More details needed. I've seen a few posts of claims but no proof yet.
arwatts 01-19-2010, 06:42 PM Do a Google search for trifecta tuning. They have a tune out for our V6's.
Thechemist 01-19-2010, 06:51 PM I've never been a V-6 basher. I guess they have their purpose in the G8 world, but this one I just can't wrap my head around...
How much would an L76 cost? Then you'd be atleast on a platform to add more than the proposed 368 hp. At that point we're talking expensive mods to push past 368 hp, right? Your car would still be a V-6 for insurance purposes, I believe. (atleast that was the case when my blazer magically went from a V-6 4.3L to a Chevy 350cc)
I'd imagine it'd hold it's value better as a V-8 G8 versus a supercharged V-6 G8.
bostonf4$ 01-19-2010, 08:59 PM how much does an LSx crate engine cost????????????????
I mean $5,6,7000 for a FI setup to get CRANK GT HP!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's a waste of money, not IMO, I mean...that's a waste of money.
You could buy an LS2 and throw it in there for less than that,....I mean come on!!!!
radkon 01-20-2010, 11:32 AM Do a Google search for trifecta tuning. They have a tune out for our V6's.
No offense but that is all we get "do a search for Trifecta". I know they aren't a sponsor here and can't come here bragging but maybe they should become a sponsor since there is a pent up demand for their services and they might actually sell some tunes. I'm tired of all the cloak and dagger, secret handshake BS that has gone on with this "top secret v6 tune".
Tell them, there are people here who will most likely purchase their service IF they can back it up. (dyno, testimonials etc.).
If they are relying solely on their website to sell $400 tunes without any hard evidence of the results, well then old P.T Barnum may have been right.
oxbcat 01-20-2010, 04:56 PM When I bought my G8 I knew I had to have the v8, I couldn't afford a GXP, so I settled for a GT. The same thing here. I can't bash anybody for driving the V6 version of the G8. Its a great car. But to those asking about trading up at this point have they forgotten how hard it is to find a G8 now. Especially most new G8's have been sold at a discount by GM, the used car market will be flooded with speculators asking for the moon for these cars now. I still think that anybody that was lucky enough to get this car while it lasted (in all trim levels) should feel like they have something special. And if that person wants more performance out of it, then they should be encouraged to do so. I for one don't believe in buying a lower level of car then "tune" it. I believe that you should spend the money in the first place to buy a nicer car with the performance you wanted anyways. As cool as it sounds to have a supercharged G8, I am completely happy with the performance levels the G8 GT has. In fact, I would bet that most people who take them to the track are either running them in the "test and tune" or bracket racing. And you don't have to have a fast car for bracket racing, just a consistent one.
Thechemist 01-20-2010, 06:24 PM I saw 5 used V6 G8's today on tow lots here in Wichita. No V8's. (GT or GXP)
Sorry to get off topic.
Norm8332 01-20-2010, 06:32 PM No offense but that is all we get "do a search for Trifecta". I know they aren't a sponsor here and can't come here bragging but maybe they should become a sponsor since there is a pent up demand for their services and they might actually sell some tunes. I'm tired of all the cloak and dagger, secret handshake BS that has gone on with this "top secret v6 tune".
Tell them, there are people here who will most likely purchase their service IF they can back it up. (dyno, testimonials etc.).
If they are relying solely on their website to sell $400 tunes without any hard evidence of the results, well then old P.T Barnum may have been right.
There are "other" popular G8 boards where these rules do not exist.
harddrivet 02-07-2010, 09:26 AM Supercharged G8 V6 yeah baby !!!! :turbonaughtdy_1:
duffman 02-07-2010, 02:00 PM My Vortech V2 SC only cost me 600 dollars.. If anyone knows where I can upgrade to a GT for less please let me know, otherwise STFU. I'm so tired of reading posts saying "just upgrade to GT".
squat 02-08-2010, 09:47 AM My Vortech V2 SC only cost me 600 dollars.. If anyone knows where I can upgrade to a GT for less please let me know, otherwise STFU. I'm so tired of reading posts saying "just upgrade to GT".
So you bought the SC, do you have a plan for getting it installed? Is there a way to do this w/o needing a tune. If so, I'll be doing the same thing you are.
GoneUpInFlames 03-04-2010, 04:03 PM So you bought the SC, do you have a plan for getting it installed? Is there a way to do this w/o needing a tune. If so, I'll be doing the same thing you are.
I would also like to know the answer to this.
All Black Everything 03-04-2010, 04:29 PM Well said Ox i sound the gavel on that one:judge:
When I bought my G8 I knew I had to have the v8, I couldn't afford a GXP, so I settled for a GT. The same thing here. I can't bash anybody for driving the V6 version of the G8. Its a great car. But to those asking about trading up at this point have they forgotten how hard it is to find a G8 now. Especially most new G8's have been sold at a discount by GM, the used car market will be flooded with speculators asking for the moon for these cars now. I still think that anybody that was lucky enough to get this car while it lasted (in all trim levels) should feel like they have something special. And if that person wants more performance out of it, then they should be encouraged to do so. I for one don't believe in buying a lower level of car then "tune" it. I believe that you should spend the money in the first place to buy a nicer car with the performance you wanted anyways. As cool as it sounds to have a supercharged G8, I am completely happy with the performance levels the G8 GT has. In fact, I would bet that most people who take them to the track are either running them in the "test and tune" or bracket racing. And you don't have to have a fast car for bracket racing, just a consistent one.
harddrivet 03-04-2010, 07:47 PM My Vortech V2 SC only cost me 600 dollars.. If anyone knows where I can upgrade to a GT for less please let me know, otherwise STFU. I'm so tired of reading posts saying "just upgrade to GT".
Thats awesome you got the SC. Please keep us posted on your results and experience. :driving:
CazG8 03-11-2012, 04:17 PM Brining this thread back to life... Hows the progress on the SC?? This guy is very interested.
knglibrty 03-11-2012, 05:02 PM Mace has a new tune for the LY7,they worked with Hazer in his Oreo to set up the tune.He has posted video of dyno pulls with it..........
Jarett75 03-22-2012, 09:34 PM Supercharger would be sweet, but not for 7K. I could sell my V6 and buy a V8 for less than half that. That being said I would love to see someone do it up.
stephen4036 03-22-2012, 10:59 PM cool, eh.. practical, no.. lol for 4k you can easily upgrade.
Chief 03-23-2012, 09:26 AM cool, eh.. practical, no.. lol for 4k you can easily upgrade.
Easily upgrade to what? A GT? NO! A V8? NO! Not for 4K.
As for the SC, if you read Duffmans sig line, you will see some of the problems he had with the car and got rid of it.
stephen4036 03-23-2012, 12:00 PM Easily upgrade to what? A GT? NO! A V8? NO! Not for 4K.
As for the SC, if you read Duffmans sig line, you will see some of the problems he had with the car and got rid of it.
i dont care about the 2 idiots out of 30,000 who got lemon cars.. my **** runs amazing at 60k miles.. and yeah.. i paid 16k for my car.. i see GT's for 20-22 all day.. so 4-5k..
:judge::judge::judge:
Jeff92se 03-23-2012, 12:07 PM I just paid $19,500 for a 08 GT with 40k miles on it. 2009s with about 30-40k go for low $20,000s as said above.
stephen4036 03-23-2012, 12:35 PM ^ fux you man lol. good deal.. theres a guy on here selling a red one in TX for 21.500 as well.
Chief 03-23-2012, 01:47 PM i dont care about the 2 idiots out of 30,000 who got lemon cars.. my **** runs amazing at 60k miles.. and yeah.. i paid 16k for my car.. i see GT's for 20-22 all day.. so 4-5k..
:judge::judge::judge:
Geez, really intelegent thinking there that only two of us got a lemon. Besides that what does that have to do with the price of the car, or tea in China?
Glad you like your car, I enjoyed mine too up to 45K miles when it had serious engine problems.
If you can find a GT for 4K over a V6, then sure go for it if that's your ticket. Or you could be different and not follow the main stream and modify a V6. To each their own.
GrandPrixRollsOut 03-23-2012, 02:14 PM you guys are lulz,
is anyone else thinking for even if it was 5-6k to upgrade to a low mileage GT, you get better brakes, a locking rear diff, a better sounding motor with m0ar mod potential and many other amazing things?
Jarett75 03-23-2012, 06:28 PM I looked on Auto Trader V6 18K-22K, V8 20K-24K. I would be so tempted if my V6 wasn't running so good. Having a reilable car V6 or V8 is priceless!
bostonf4$ 03-23-2012, 06:50 PM wouldn't it be cheaper/easier/and more powerful to just drop the car at a shop w/ a couple snails and say "have at it"?
CazG8 03-23-2012, 07:07 PM Well, I'm almost thinking that a turbo setup would be the best choice for us V6 guys (disregarding the "get a GT" comments). T'would be original, cheaper than a SC, and more reliable, and let's not forget, would end up putting alot of V8's to shame. It's not easy finding these cars as the days go by so I figure, if one owns the base edition, try to work with what you have, be creative, be original, and regardless of how much power you end up making, at least people can admire the fact that you had the idea in mind to stand out instead of just "upgrading to the next edition." "Rack him." - Jim Rome.
knglibrty 03-23-2012, 08:49 PM The whole sweetness of it is to have a V-6 can go door to door with a non modded GT.
"LET'S KICK THE TIRE'S. AND LIGHT THE FIRE BIG DADDY."
Chief 03-23-2012, 09:11 PM The whole sweetness of it is to have a V-6 can go door to door with a non modded GT.
"LET'S KICK THE TIRE'S. AND LIGHT THE FIRE BIG DADDY."
Ain't that what hot rodding is all about? ;)
Schwartz 03-24-2012, 02:43 PM The whole sweetness of it is to have a V-6 can go door to door with a non modded GT.
"LET'S KICK THE TIRE'S. AND LIGHT THE FIRE BIG DADDY."
I've already gone door to door with one from a roll,and he had a catback and a tune,so whatever! For those of you who haven't driven the 6 as a DD...........ZIP IT!
knglibrty 03-24-2012, 04:01 PM I've already gone door to door with one from a roll,and he had a catback and a tune,so whatever! For those of you who haven't driven the 6 as a DD...........ZIP IT!
Lucky SOB , nobody want's to play around here, did have ZO6 get off the freeway and catch the light. Like i REALLY going to imbarious meyself.
GrandPrixRollsOut 03-25-2012, 08:29 AM Will your v6 transmission handle the power without rebuild? What about injectors, fuel pump?
I had a turbo v6. Turbo kit 6000 installed. New trans after 5500 installed, fuel pump 800, block gasket leaks (can't remember pricing), meth injection kit ...
Don't get me wrong, when the car worked it was fun... But watching gauges for kr wasn't.
Also for the insurance comment if you wreck and your cars gets assessed and they see a sc on your car it's modded without their knowledge and it's misrepresentation. They will deny your claim and you will have no insurance to back you. Ask me how I know.....
Chief 03-25-2012, 06:56 PM Also for the insurance comment if you wreck and your cars gets assessed and they see a sc on your car it's modded without their knowledge and it's misrepresentation. They will deny your claim and you will have no insurance to back you. Ask me how I know.....
Would that be because you were racing?
Enginerd 03-25-2012, 10:29 PM i dont care about the 2 idiots out of 30,000 who got lemon cars..
Dude that's harsh...not their fault they got bad luck of the draw, certainly doesn't make them 'idiots'...c'mon fool...
But for the grace of god... :)
stephen4036 03-26-2012, 12:05 AM Dude that's harsh...not their fault they got bad luck of the draw, certainly doesn't make them 'idiots'...c'mon fool...
But for the grace of god... :)
:driving:
lmao..
as for these kids saying going mainstream for getting a v8? lol... more like going smartstream.. i picked up my v6 for nothing so i like it. But i check CL and cars.com everyday for a WH G8 GT :wink2:
GrandPrixRollsOut 03-26-2012, 02:28 PM Would that be because you were racing?
No,
Because my vehicle was broken into and they stole my stereo system. Insurance guy came to validate that it was broken into. Dude saw the turbo and said if you wrecked because of that we wouldnt cover you.
Chief 03-26-2012, 04:23 PM That seems a bit strange.
I had an accident once in an old hotrod truck I built. Nothing fancy on the insurance. I had full coverage with a $100 deductible. Had a blown 383 stroker under the hood. Got sideways and hit a wall with the front corner smashing the hood and fender. Claimed it on my insurance. Gave them pictures of everything that even showed the motor with the blower. Had the adjuster come out and look at it as I wanted to do the repairs myself. He saw the motor and we even talked about it. They paid off with no problems or questions asked.
Not sure how they could claim that a turbo caused you to have an accident and not pay up. That is unless they may be some fly by night schister company. Not saying they are but I don't see how they could get away with it.
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