Tonight during Game 2 of the NCAA Tournament. Pontiac will air the 8 vs 5 commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrvFo2VosO0&feature=related

LOL


Monday can't come soon enough! My black on black G8 awaits!

I saw it last night while I was watching the Kansas / UNC Game before I saw this post. I was cracking up, it was pretty good.

This is the best one yet!

I bet a lot of people missed it because of how bad Kansas beat UNC. What a shame. Unless it played at the beginning. I missed it. So I am not sure where they aired it. That would have definitely caught peoples attention and stirred up some controversy.

hello Zero Punctuation

The insanity... I absolutely loved it. LOL!!!

Yeah, saw it in a motel room on the way back from Phoenix yesterday while watching the game. Priceless, but I wonder how many people will get it, certainly not the BMW worshipers. Mine arrived the day after I left for vacation and I pick it up tomorrow.

Any of you driving a gray G8 in Amarillo last night around 6:10PM on I-40?

Yeah, saw it in a motel room on the way back from Phoenix yesterday while watching the game. Priceless, but I wonder how many people will get it, certainly not the BMW worshipers. Mine arrived the day after I left for vacation and I pick it up tomorrow.

Any of you driving a gray G8 in Amarillo last night around 6:10PM on I-40?

Was that yours? Whoops........oh well you probably won't notice...I mean it is hard to see and all.:gr_jest::gr_jest:

I saw it last night while I was watching the Kansas / UNC Game before I saw this post. I was cracking up, it was pretty good.

yeah same here. I thought it was an internet only add. They spared no love for bmw...

The beemer guys are going to think it is just another sign of why they are STUCK UP there, and everyone else is down here.:eek2:

The beemer guys are going to think it is just another sign of why they are STUCK UP there, and everyone else is down here.:eek2:
I'm looking forward to my first 5-series kill sticker. :angel:

I'm looking forward to my first 5-series kill sticker. :angel:

Won't know what hit 'em.

But getting burned a few times will educate those Beemer owners fast.

Won't know what hit 'em.

But getting burned a few times will educate those Beemer owners fast.
So far (with a couple of exceptions) the Bimmer owners around here - and they are numerous - have not deigned to acknowledge my presence.

Couple hundred more miles on the clock and I'm going hunting.

It certainly has stirred up the bimmer forums.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=976090

Yeah, I read a few screens of their comments. I guess what bothers me is that so many drivers of imports (especially) seem to equate price with quality with total disregard to the specs. As my financial advisor has told be when considering a purchase, "it isn't how much it costs, it's how much it's worth." It would be interesting to build a car with the G8's specs, rebadge it to BMW logo and put a $60,000 price tag on it. Many would buy it for the prestige of having a car costing that much. I'm always fascinated by those who say their favorite (you fill in the blank) blows the (you fill in the blank) away without any specific example of superiority other than personal opinion (C&D Jan '05 issue is a prime example of such blatant bias). But then they do pay those big prices to be seen as "superior" as they perceive it, and it really is difficult to admit you made a big mistake at that price, or that a lesser priced car really does out-spec your status symbol.

In the past, U.S. manufacturing mentality has been toward size, comfort (soft ride) and price, with few exceptions. We have always been the last to incorporate better technology into our cars (IRS, OHCs, disc brakes, radial tires, fuel injection, etc.) because the U.S. buying public has been brain-washed into the bi-annual sheet metal changes from the 60's rather than innovation and handling. After all, look at European topography and roads....single lane, twisty, narrow.....and high fuel prices. That has forced the Euro-cars into their own handling mold.

The U.S. performance mentality went the other way with double lane roads after WWII (the Eisenhower interstate highway projects) and long range driving comfort. This gave us the original muscle cars (GTO, hemi GTX, etc.), drag racing and NASCAR as the performance standards and the rolling couches from Buick and Cadillac and Lincoln as status for the masses. We went faster in a straight line, and got there more quickly, but we had to slow down for the curves and brake well in advance. The mentality persists today with many of us as we gripe because we don't have certain creature comforts or gadgets as standard equipment (voice-activated stereo, nav, BT, back-up camera, etc.)

I like what Pontiac is trying to do -- establish a RWD performance mentality at mid-income prices. I hope the "stiff" suspension and mid-range fuel consumption doesn't kill the dream of getting more buyers on board. They nearly lost me before the GTO and G8 came out when they axed the "F" body. It's great to have the newest on the street, but they must sell a bunch of these to keep the dream alive and finance the continuing development of a great platform.

Look at this post:

"How DARE they compare their peasant-mobile to my magnificent German car? I laugh heartily at their pathetic australian sedan. I dread that the owners of these motor carriages (who lack a reasoning faculty and probably an immortal soul) would see fit to attempt a conversation with me whist I am piloting my Bavarian wonder-wagon. If he should do so then i will surely have a hearty guffaw at his expense."

You think those pencil neck geeks in their 60 grand pretty boy wagons have their panties in a bunch???!!!:gr_jest::aus_flag:

The buzz that is being created by this 8 vs. 5 thing shows you that when they brought out the GTO, it should have been marketed against the Beemer 3 series, instead of the Mustang. I can see the comments now....how dare those sweaty pleebs driving those dumb Australian monsters with brawn and no brains compare their crude machines to my refined and expensive German wet dream machine! Imagine that Buffy!:gr_jest::fawkdance: This commercial offers a glimmer of hope that Pontiac is starting to understand their buyer. One can only hope!!

So far (with a couple of exceptions) the Bimmer owners around here - and they are numerous - have not deigned to acknowledge my presence.

Trust me...they won't. If they acknowledge you, they have to admit they paid about double what they needed to. They will mess with you on the highway though...

I wish the Americans would just stop making cars. I also think enthusiasts should have an elitist attitude.

A girl at my work drives a Pontiac. I told her she has absolutely no taste.

Remember people: There is a reason we got the idea to get a BMW. It's because we have good taste in cars. Feel good that you are superior to American car drivers in every imaginable way.

I lol'd. The fact that its got all those guys dropping 60k on their cars all wound up is proof that there is something to this marketing campaign. Many of them realize the G8 is an amazingly well performing machine, for half the cost of their cars, and they accept that. Others make ridiculous comments like this, similar to an 8 year old.

With the exception of the fan boys, they at least seem to understand that the g8 is a nice car.

Funny, how they think that just b/c it's 70k dollars it's automatically faster. **** I can buy a p.o.s integra and put a turbo and other mods in it and it'd be faster than a 5 series. Cost does not equal speed.

My dad told me how they did that with the Lincoln LS. They pulled all badges and had Lexus (as well as other premium brand owners) drive the car etc. They all loved it, said it was great, they would buy one - until they said it was a Lincoln, then they said they would never buy one because it wasn't that nice. These people will never change their mind...

[QUOTE=BlueGoat;29613] It would be interesting to build a car with the G8's specs, rebadge it to BMW logo and put a $60,000 price tag on it. Many would buy it for the prestige of having a car costing that much.

Look at this post:

"How DARE they compare their peasant-mobile to my magnificent German car? I laugh heartily at their pathetic australian sedan. I dread that the owners of these motor carriages (who lack a reasoning faculty and probably an immortal soul) would see fit to attempt a conversation with me whist I am piloting my Bavarian wonder-wagon. If he should do so then i will surely have a hearty guffaw at his expense."

You think those pencil neck geeks in their 60 grand pretty boy wagons have their panties in a bunch???!!!:gr_jest::aus_flag:

When I read this, I imagined it being spoken by the guy with the ridiculous French accent in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

I lol'd. The fact that its got all those guys dropping 60k on their cars all wound up is proof that there is something to this marketing campaign. Many of them realize the G8 is an amazingly well performing machine, for half the cost of their cars, and they accept that. Others make ridiculous comments like this, similar to an 8 year old.

Some of the comments are so off the wall I think they must be planted or staged. They CAN'T be for real, can they????:eek2::nuts:Are these guys rolling around in Beemers really THAT insecure? This is very revealing!!

Anyone driving a Holden can be just as passionate as all the jerks in the BMW crowd. And they are, just look at the dialog on the sister site ls1gto.com. The only difference is we're passionate and we still have our money in our pocket!:bubbrubb::burnout::aus_flag:

Who is posing over there as RickyBobby? ILMAO . Bull***** talks, The G8 WALKS! All over their asses. Test drove a GTO 6.0 6 Speed Standard Yesterday. All I can say is WOOWWWWW! What a machine! :burnout::burnout:

Here is another gem:

"On second thought, after viewing that commercial, pontiac is annoying and i hope their marketing people realise how retarded their whole approach is. If only they sold it as a holden commodore... the front end of that looks better too."

If I paid $60K for a 5 series and saw a G8 coming up behind me, I would probably get a little pissy too.:boink:

I went to Discount Tire yesterday in my GT to try to get something worked out on a spare tire. All the pimply-faced grease monkeys and a couple of the customers were very inquisitive and complimentary towards the car.

BMW 3- and 5-series are a dime a dozen around here and no one thinks they're special, much less gives them a second look, except the people who are still making payments on 'em.

Here's someone from the Beemer board who gets it:

"The funny thing is that there really is no pleasing the people on this forum. If you asked the average BF.c member what the "perfect new car" would be (besides a remade E30 of course... ), the answer would probably somewhere along the lines of an E60 550i with more conservative styling, no iDrive, and half the price of what it's selling. The G8 is exactly this. Haters need to sit down. Good job, Pontiac, for making a car that average people and enthusiasts can enjoy (and afford)."

Couldn't have said it better myself!

now when a GXP can knock down an M5, using only bolt-on mods. then I'll really smile :D

I think this commercial hit the nail on the head.

1. Its raw facts, showing why the G8 can compete with the 5 series.
2. Its got BMW fans panties all up in a bunch!
3. The G8 is now officially on the map and being talked about on forums everywhere, from domestic to import forums.

Hats off GM, and their marketing firms! :popcorn2:

Trust me...they won't. If they acknowledge you, they have to admit they paid about double what they needed to. They will mess with you on the highway though...

Exactly right. Imagine you are a well paid professional (doc, lawyer, MBA, etc.) and you view yourself as being smarter than all the rest of the population. Then the biggest purchase you made next to your vacation house turns out to have been paying an extra $30-40K for wood interior trim and I-drive. You look a bit foolish, which makes it hard to keep your smugness up.

The 5-series boys are going to learn to HATE the G8!

I think this commercial hit the nail on the head.

1. Its raw facts, showing why the G8 can compete to the 5 series.
2. Its got BMW fans panties all up in a bunch!
3. The G8 is now officially on the map and being talked about on forums everywhere, from domestic to import forums.

Hats off GM, and their marketing firms! :popcorn2:

Amen, nothing like deposing the king to get attention. This add is WAY better than the cartoon game one in terms of getting the job done.

[QUOTE=NVR2FST;29665]My dad told me how they did that with the Lincoln LS. They pulled all badges and had Lexus (as well as other premium brand owners) drive the car etc. They all loved it, said it was great, they would buy one - until they said it was a Lincoln, then they said they would never buy one because it wasn't that nice. These people will never change their mind...

They will, but only when it starts to look foolish to spend $60-70K on car matched by a $30K one. Remember they will hate feeling outsmarted.

They can't even argue styling since the Bangled styling of the BMW is clearly ugly, while the G8 is what the BMW should have looked like in the first place.

Amen, nothing like deposing the king to get attention. This add is WAY better than the cartoon game one in terms of getting the job done.

Those two ads were targeting totally different segments of the market.

The spyhunter commercial was specifically targeted at the mid 30's crowd who played that game and loved it. Now a very well priced performance car is associated with the game they loved. It got my blood racing and I already owned a G8.

The 8 vs. 5 commercial was targeting those that admire the performance aspects of the 5 series but dont want to be associated with the "stuck up" persona and/or can't or are not willing to spend that amount of money on a car. The ad shows that the 5 is a great car in a lot of ways, but so is the G8 and it cost's a LOT less.

Those two ads were targeting totally different segments of the market.

The spyhunter commercial was specifically targeted at the mid 30's crowd who played that game and loved it. Now a very well priced performance car is associated with the game they loved. It got my blood racing and I already owned a G8.

The 8 vs. 5 commercial was targeting those that admire the performance aspects of the 5 series but dont want to be associated with the "stuck up" persona and/or can't or are not willing to spend that amount of money on a car. The ad shows that the 5 is a great car in a lot of ways, but so is the G8 and it cost's a LOT less.

yeah I know, but I think you will get much more buzz (free word of mouth advertising) from the 8 v. 5 commercial. Plus, sounding like a snobby BMW owner, you could argue that not all video game freaks are going to have the $$$ to buy a G8. :p

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=976090&page=2

Scroll down to the post by Japhos, with the YouTube comparison of the XVR8 Vauxhall to MB, BMW competition. Awesome video!!!!!

Let's face it - the G8 and the BMWs attract different types of owners.

First let's note that BMWs are fine cars with excellent driving dynamics.

BMW owners are willing to pay extra for perceived brand cachet and the high costs of ownership that invariably follow. Not to paint with too broad a brush, but not too many of them are gearheads or particularly performance-oriented. They just want a "fine" car and are willing to pay for the extrinsic and intrinsic qualities that go with the brand. Nothing wrong with that.

When you start attacking the intangible qualities of BMWs you're gonna start getting all their panties in a wad because you are attacking their emotional investments. It's kinda like religion, ya know.

G8 owners are, I think, more concerned about outright performance and upgradability than spending an extra $20K to get a certain badge.

It's all good.

I'm still looking forward to the spankings. :angel:

Let's face it - the G8 and the BMWs attract different types of owners.

First let's note that BMWs are fine cars with excellent driving dynamics.

BMW owners are willing to pay extra for perceived brand cachet and the high costs of ownership that invariably follow. Not to paint with too broad a brush, but not too many of them are gearheads or particularly performance-oriented. They just want a "fine" car and are willing to pay for the extrinsic and intrinsic qualities that go with the brand. Nothing wrong with that.

When you start attacking the intangible qualities of BMWs you're gonna start getting all their panties in a wad because you are attacking their emotional investments. It's kinda like religion, ya know.

G8 owners are, I think, more concerned about outright performance and upgradability than spending an extra $20K to get a certain badge.

It's all good.

I'm still looking forward to the spankings. :angel:Your 100% correct
Congrats GM..........

BMW 550i specs:

Weight = 3950 lbs
Engine = 4.8L V-8
Horsepower = 360 @ 6300 rpm
Torque = 360 ft-lbs @ 3500 rpm
MSRP = $58,500

So the baddest 5-Series (that's not an M5) is lighter by 50 pounds and down 25 ft-lbs of torque, and up about $28,000.

Hee, hee, you could buy two G8s!

It certainly has stirred up the bimmer forums.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=976090

I can't believe how many messages the topic has spawned on the Bimmer forum!!!! The commercial obviously touched a nerve!

I can't believe how many messages the topic has spawned on the Bimmer forum!!!! The commercial obviously touched a nerve!

Proof that the advertising is working. Getting a community like that to be so upset by a American made vehicle says something. And I think its important to point out, the target of this advertisment isn't 5 series owners or potential buyers as much as it is 1 series, and charger buyers. If a G8 competes with a five series, why on earth would I want a piddly charger R/T?

I think they need to start showing this ad, and more like it in prime time.. and not stop. In just a few days this ad has caused so much stir and buzz on the net its crazy.

Some laugh, some roll their eyes but some scratch their chin. I think all of which draw attention to the new model, the new Pontiac image and its exactly what marketing was hoping for.

I loved this commercial. Don't be fooled, bimmer lovers know exactly what the G8 is. They know because they're "enthusiasts" and they read everything about cars. Problem is that they're fed up with reading more about the G8 for the last several months than their beloved chariots. Haha.

My new GT just clocked 500 miles today, so I'm approaching bimmer busting phase. Can't wait. Have to admit that I've been bad a couple times, and it feels oooohhhh sooooo good.

I would love to dust a bimmer. God knows I have tried over the past few days (hit the 2000 mile mark). But the BMW owners around me seem clueless to the G8 or maybe they are "too refined" to give the BMW all of their right foot. Then again, I think like a cheapskate and if I had 60 g's invested in a factory tuned car I too would probably be light on the accelerator. But I will continue to hunt unsuspecting 5 series...

I would love to dust a bimmer. God knows I have tried over the past few days (hit the 2000 mile mark). But the BMW owners around me seem clueless to the G8 or maybe they are "too refined" to give the BMW all of their right foot. Then again, I think like a cheapskate and if I had 60 g's invested in a factory tuned car I too would probably be light on the accelerator. But I will continue to hunt unsuspecting 5 series...

I live in southern California, and here 5 series are a dime a dozen. 3 series are pretty much like Honda Civics, money is large. I've seen about 5 G8 GTs and everytime they zip by.. heads turn.

I think around here the average 5 series owner isn't an enthusiast, but rather a soccer mom on her way to Newport Beach. The nice thing is, M5s are very abundant, along with other high end sports machines. I would give ANYTHING to have a GXP and go hunting in my area.

I would eat the living ***** out of most, and respectfully acknowledge the loss to the rest... all the while grinning ear to ear.

All this commotion is ruining my favorite weapon -- stealth. I don't go out hunting for a kill, but if the deer walks by the tree stand while I'm resting ......

That's one of the reasons I love my GTO -- looks to most non-gearheads like a GrandAm. I'm finding it a bit harder to hide in the G8 because mine came in RED and it shines like a jewel in a goat's butt, (except it's been raining for two days now) so you can't hide at stop lights. I get a lot of looks, but no chances to run -- yet. Still only have 200 miles on the clock, so wouldn't anyway.

Looking at drivers beside me, the first thing they see is that big 19" wheel and the flared fender. Then they do a double-take, usually slow down a bit and let me slide by so they can check out the rest of the car. I expect to be stopped any day now because I live in a 2-tag state and I had the dealer leave the #$@^ plate holder off the front of my car and put it in the trunk.

Not as many BMWs down here in Ozark land because there aren't any dealers in town, but there are a few Mercs -- mostly the little overpriced econoboxes.

Proof that the advertising is working. Getting a community like that to be so upset by a American made vehicle says something. And I think its important to point out, the target of this advertisment isn't 5 series owners or potential buyers as much as it is 1 series, and charger buyers. If a G8 competes with a five series, why on earth would I want a piddly charger R/T?

Great Point! It adds up because I can't recall the bimmer crowd getting all worked up over a charger. Unless I just wasn't paying attention.

I harried a 550i and an M3 on the way home last night. It was raining for good measure. (Have you guys noticed how well the G8 handles itself in the rain?)

The 550i was being driven by a 50-ish lady with no clue, much less a sense of sport, so no go there.

The guy in the M3 kept breaking his back end loose on the wet pavement (don't those things have some kind of traction control?) and he wouldn't play, either.

It's hard to have good, clean fun sometimes!

I harried a 550i and an M3 on the way home last night. It was raining for good measure. (Have you guys noticed how well the G8 handles itself in the rain?)

The 550i was being driven by a 50-ish lady with no clue, much less a sense of sport, so no go there.

The guy in the M3 kept breaking his back end loose on the wet pavement (don't those things have some kind of traction control?) and he wouldn't play, either.

It's hard to have good, clean fun sometimes!

It always seems you run into the best potential victims when the road is soaked!

It always seems you run into the best potential victims when the road is soaked!
Well, I was willing to play.

I claim 2 kills by default!

Well, I was willing to play.

I claim 2 kills by default!

I'd love to see little blue and white BMW kill circles on the side of a G8 for fun. That would really get the goat of Bimmer owners who are trying to ignore the car.

I'd love to see little blue and white BMW kill circles on the side of a G8 for fun. That would really get the goat of Bimmer owners who are trying to ignore the car.
Oh yeah, the little roundel surrounded by a fat red circle with a diagonal slash through it.....:angel:

It certainly has stirred up the bimmer forums.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=976090

Let the Games Begin!!! :turbonaughtdy_1:

How's this?

I can't figure out how to get images to post inline. If one of you fine gents could do so for me.....

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc16/dodson914/bmw-kill.jpg

Thanks! You like?

Thanks! You like?

It's pretty funny. Here in about an hour or so you are going to see 100 members using it as their avatar. LOL

It's pretty funny. Here in about an hour or so you are going to see 100 members using it as their avatar. LOL
Excellent! (As long as I get royalties....:D )

Now we are getting as obnoxious as they are......

Now we are getting as obnoxious as they are......
It's all good fun.

What this country has been missing since the early '70s is a car brand war, like the great Ford / Chevy / Mopar wars. Now it's time for a Pontiac / BMW war!

Now we are getting as obnoxious as they are......

I'm loving it! bm who? Exactly!

It's all good fun.

What this country has been missing since the early '70s is a car brand war, like the great Ford / Chevy / Mopar wars. Now it's time for a Pontiac / BMW war!

If only Pontiac/Lutz/GM and company would cooperate by producing a FULL LINE of great cars... then the fun could really begin. I don't know about you guys but I think the Holden Guys should trade places with the guys in Detroit. Maybe good things will happen all over the place then!:yumyum:

If only Pontiac/Lutz/GM and company would cooperate by producing a FULL LINE of great cars... then the fun could really begin. I don't know about you guys but I think the Holden Guys should trade places with the guys in Detroit. Maybe good things will happen all over the place then!:yumyum:

It takes time. Every car that is 100% since Lutz has been a winner:

The G8, the New CTS, the New Malibu, the Enclave. Winners all. Best thing is the way the General's interiors have been transformed, totally superior to the old Rubbermaid GM interiors.

I'm just looking forward to a brain dead G8 owner pull up next to me... Ha Ha...

I can guarantee that this chump will get many opportunities. Just wait until he gets his tail lights handed to him by a "truck". :gr_devil:

It takes time. Every car that is 100% since Lutz has been a winner:

The G8, the New CTS, the New Malibu, the Enclave. Winners all. Best thing is the way the General's interiors have been transformed, totally superior to the old Rubbermaid GM interiors.

No question it takes time. Those cars mentioned are all great! My wife had 4...believe it....4 Passats in a row and finally got fed up with the VW attitood and the high cost of maintaining. She dragged me to the Saturn dealer and we looked at the Aura. Bought it! Great car for the money! I hope the boys at GM have the stomach to tell Wall Street to shut up! ....it is about PRODUCT!!!!!!!! Not this quarter's earnings.:fawkdance:

Pontiac versus BMW? Not really, but it does make for great ad copy.

The problem with cars is that what you want, performance-wise, usually costs too much. I love the German super-sedans, but I don't like their $60-80k asking prices. Is the G8 better or even comparable? Well, no, except in pure performance numbers, but not in chassis feel or the subleties of man/machine interaction. It doesn't matter to most people, however, as paying $60-80k for a "car toy" is out of the question ('cause its out of their budget).

Thank goodness I get along well with motorcycles! For just a few thousand dollars more than a run-of-the-mill Japanese sportbike I get a Ducati, which has far more mechanical soul and more sophisticated styling. If the price difference between Domestic (or Australian) cars and the Euros was reasonable, most enthusiasts would be driving European, or perhaps, the new CTS. But the marketplace reality is that the Euros (and many Japanese) are way too much money.

This is why, of course, the G8 is such a bargain.

wow, i can't believe i just read that entire thread from the bimmerforum. It's almost like a car wreck, you wan't to look away but can't. half the people on there are total tools. All stereotypes come from somewhere and I think I can cite Exhibit A "bimmerforum" as a perfect example. The other half of the posters seem to be rational car enthusiasts.

I'm not going to blame them. A lot of people here post with attitude about other cars just as much.

Let's face it, Pontiac is not BMW and the G8 is not a 550. It's not supposed to be, but that doesn't mean it is a bad car. They are both good cars for their respective price points. And we ought to leave it at that. The rest is marketing fluff and makes for good conversation!:popcorn2:

Let's face it, Pontiac is not BMW and the G8 is not a 550. It's not supposed to be, but that doesn't mean it is a bad car. They are both good cars for their respective price points. And we ought to leave it at that. The rest is marketing fluff and makes for good conversation!:popcorn2:
How do you expect to get a good cross-forum flame war going with an attitude like that? :angel:

Let's face it, Pontiac is not BMW and the G8 is not a 550. It's not supposed to be, but that doesn't mean it is a bad car. They are both good cars for their respective price points. And we ought to leave it at that. The rest is marketing fluff and makes for good conversation!:popcorn2:

The 550i is worth $15K more than the G8. At $30-40K, it is vastly overpriced. and ugly.

How do you expect to get a good cross-forum flame war going with an attitude like that? :angel:

Just tell them their Bangled bungled styling is ugly and the G8 is what the 5 series should have looked like.

Let's face it, Pontiac is not BMW and the G8 is not a 550. It's not supposed to be, but that doesn't mean it is a bad car. They are both good cars for their respective price points. And we ought to leave it at that. The rest is marketing fluff and makes for good conversation!:popcorn2:

But we just like reminding the Bimmer boys that the extra $30,000 they spent on their vehicles did not get them that much extra!

But we just like reminding the Bimmer boys that the extra $30,000 they spent on their vehicles did not get them that much extra!

Yeah, I know. I'm lovin' it! And the fact that they are so sensitive about it tells you that they don't like being reminded about that. :boink: Someone else pointed out that half the guys are whining about the commercial and the other half recognize the G8 for what it is. I take that as evidence that probably half the bimmer guys are true enthusiasts, the rest are just trying to spend their way into status.

i think most of those guys on the bimmerforum are pretty level headed, giving credit where credit is due. which is nice for a change. i think the 5 series has its points that are better than the 8. and vise versa. if i really liked the 5 series, i would be on that forum... however i enjoy the package you get with the g8. every car enthusiast can appreciate every car because each brings significant ups and downs to the table.

chrish

My best bud bought a Lexus IS 350 not long ago. Those are nice cars, with a 0 - 60 time right on par with the G8 GT although the engines have less horsepower.

I'm gonna see him tonight and goad him about horsepower and torque. :turbonaughtdy_1:

i think most of those guys on the bimmerforum are pretty level headed, giving credit where credit is due. which is nice for a change. i think the 5 series has its points that are better than the 8. and vise versa. if i really liked the 5 series, i would be on that forum... however i enjoy the package you get with the g8. every car enthusiast can appreciate every car because each brings significant ups and downs to the table.

chrish

Any enthusiast will appreciate the G8, including BMW owners. That forum was filled with plenty of level headed people. There is clearly a large gap between the two models, but I think were one cannot argue is that for the price.. the G8 is phenominal.

I would be willing to bet, that every BMW fanboy on that forum with elitist attitude would stand in line to buy a G8 GT if thats all they could afford.

Look at this post:

"How DARE they compare their peasant-mobile to my magnificent German car? I laugh heartily at their pathetic australian sedan. I dread that the owners of these motor carriages (who lack a reasoning faculty and probably an immortal soul) would see fit to attempt a conversation with me whist I am piloting my Bavarian wonder-wagon. If he should do so then i will surely have a hearty guffaw at his expense."

You think those pencil neck geeks in their 60 grand pretty boy wagons have their panties in a bunch???!!!:gr_jest::aus_flag:

Yep.

My best bud bought a Lexus IS 350 not long ago. Those are nice cars, with a 0 - 60 time right on par with the G8 GT although the engines have less horsepower.

I'm gonna see him tonight and goad him about horsepower and torque. :turbonaughtdy_1:

Only problem with a Lexus (or Toyota for that matter) is that they have the automotive sex appeal of a refridgerator.

Look at this post:

"How DARE they compare their peasant-mobile to my magnificent German car? I laugh heartily at their pathetic australian sedan. I dread that the owners of these motor carriages (who lack a reasoning faculty and probably an immortal soul) would see fit to attempt a conversation with me whist I am piloting my Bavarian wonder-wagon. If he should do so then i will surely have a hearty guffaw at his expense."

You think those pencil neck geeks in their 60 grand pretty boy wagons have their panties in a bunch???!!!:gr_jest::aus_flag:

Man, if you can't detect "tongue-in-cheek," that went right over your head!

Not to paint with too broad a brush, but not too many of them are gearheads or particularly performance-oriented. They just want a "fine" car and are willing to pay for the extrinsic and intrinsic qualities that go with the brand.

I'm going to disagree with you on this point. I was a member of BMW CCA for many years, and while I can't say what percentage of BMW owners are actually club members, the membership was made up of mostly enthusiasts. And enthusiasts who love to DRIVE! BMW CCA offers high performance driving schools around the country to teach BMW owners the finer points of high performance driving and handling, not just 1/4 mile times (which many Pontiac owners seem obsessed with).

And many club owners are savvy consumers. Quite a few aren't the first owner of their car. They wait for the first owner to take the depreciation hit and buy the car for a bargain (these guys are typically the gearheads and enthusiasts you see posting).

Lastly, you're looking at a BMW forum. They are proud of their marque (the same way Pontiac owners are here). Do you think they equate Pontiac to BMW? Of course not. The same way if Hyundai created a performance rwd sedan and then did a commercial comparing it to the G8.

<The same way if Hyundai created a performance rwd sedan and then did a commercial comparing it to the G8.>

Don't give them ideas...they are already going after the Mustang.

Only problem with a Lexus (or Toyota for that matter) is that they have the automotive sex appeal of a refridgerator.
Yeah and those Japanese high-output 4-bangers buzz like an electric razor on steroids which makes for one annoying ride.

Man, if you can't detect "tongue-in-cheek," that went right over your head!



I'm going to disagree with you on this point. I was a member of BMW CCA for many years, and while I can't say what percentage of BMW owners are actually club members, the membership was made up of mostly enthusiasts. And enthusiasts who love to DRIVE! BMW CCA offers high performance driving schools around the country to teach BMW owners the finer points of high performance driving and handling, not just 1/4 mile times (which many Pontiac owners seem obsessed with).

And many club owners are savvy consumers. Quite a few aren't the first owner of their car. They wait for the first owner to take the depreciation hit and buy the car for a bargain (these guys are typically the gearheads and enthusiasts you see posting).

Lastly, you're looking at a BMW forum. They are proud of their marque (the same way Pontiac owners are here). Do you think they equate Pontiac to BMW? Of course not. The same way if Hyundai created a performance rwd sedan and then did a commercial comparing it to the G8.

Thanks for the correction .....Dad!:slap: Your insight is so very much appreciated.

Lastly, you're looking at a BMW forum. They are proud of their marque (the same way Pontiac owners are here). Do you think they equate Pontiac to BMW? Of course not. The same way if Hyundai created a performance rwd sedan and then did a commercial comparing it to the G8.

Actually, the new Hyundia Genesis is rated at 368HP! ......

more incentive for Domestics to keep improving!

Thanks for the correction .....Dad!:slap: Your insight is so very much appreciated.

Obviously, it's not, Junior. Grow up.

Obviously, it's not, Junior. Grow up.

Sorry man! I thought we were all just having a little fun poking at the bimmer crowd. This isn't really supposed to be a serious deal.:slap:

Sorry man! I thought we were all just having a little fun poking at the bimmer crowd. This isn't really supposed to be a serious deal.:slap:

Alright, then. My apologies. :cool:

I'm an enthusiast of just about all cars, and I've never understood the sentiment of stereotyping owners of other makes. :dunno:

And I wasn't poking fun at you earlier, but the quote from the bimmer forum about his "wonder wagon" was so obviously in jest, but it seemed like you thought he was serious. No harm meant.

I brought this tread back from the dead for my first post.

My wife has a BMW 550i and is none to happy about my new G8 GT. The sad part about it is she put her foot down and insisted I trade my 2003 C5 Corvette on a car with 4 doors. So naturally, I buy a 4 door car with a Vette motor (almost).

Once I finish break in (500 miles), I will have to figure a way to race her. It will probably mean sleeping on the couch for a few days but it will be worth it.:boink:

I brought this tread back from the dead for my first post.

My wife has a BMW 550i and is none to happy about my new G8 GT. The sad part about it is she put her foot down and insisted I trade my 2003 C5 Corvette on a car with 4 doors. So naturally, I buy a 4 door car with a Vette motor (almost).

Once I finish break in (500 miles), I will have to figure a way to race her. It will probably mean sleeping on the couch for a few days but it will be worth it.:boink:


Awesome 1st post! Put your wife & her V8 5 series in her place. Race her! The sooner the better, screw the break in... :wink2:

Make sure you report back on the street race! :driving:


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I brought this tread back from the dead for my first post.

My wife has a BMW 550i and is none to happy about my new G8 GT. The sad part about it is she put her foot down and insisted I trade my 2003 C5 Corvette on a car with 4 doors. So naturally, I buy a 4 door car with a Vette motor (almost).

Once I finish break in (500 miles), I will have to figure a way to race her. It will probably mean sleeping on the couch for a few days but it will be worth it.:boink:
Psst! Best way to break a motor in is to drive it the way you would normally......:driving:

:iagree:

My best bud bought a Lexus IS 350 not long ago. Those are nice cars, with a 0 - 60 time right on par with the G8 GT although the engines have less horsepower.

I'm gonna see him tonight and goad him about horsepower and torque. :turbonaughtdy_1:


Hey Zaphod B, did you ever race your friend & their Lexus IS 350? Those are sweet looking cars! The colors they have for those are awesome....

Report back on the race! :driving:


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:iagree:

+2 Just do it!

Hey Zaphod B, did you ever race your friend & their Lexus IS 350? Those are sweet looking cars! The colors they have for those are awesome....

Report back on the race! :driving:


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We haven't matched them up yet but we plan to.

We both own property near Possum Kingdom Lake (near Graham, Tx) and there are some nice, straight state highways out there. The next time we're headed out there at the same time we'll run 'em! :driving:

This is typical GM stupidity. NO ONE cross shops Pontiacs and BMWs. Why aren't they marketing it against the Maxima, Charger, and Accord? It looks a king compared with any of those cars, but stacked against the BMW, it looks like, well, a Pontiac. A very well built Pontiac, but still a Pontiac.

This is typical GM stupidity. NO ONE cross shops Pontiacs and BMWs. Why aren't they marketing it against the Maxima, Charger, and Accord? It looks a king compared with any of those cars, but stacked against the BMW, it looks like, well, a Pontiac. A very well built Pontiac, but still a Pontiac.

way to bring back a dead thread!

This is typical GM stupidity. NO ONE cross shops Pontiacs and BMWs. Why aren't they marketing it against the Maxima, Charger, and Accord? It looks a king compared with any of those cars, but stacked against the BMW, it looks like, well, a Pontiac. A very well built Pontiac, but still a Pontiac.

yeah but the Pontiac owner gets to keep $30K for gas money. Actually I haven't seen any G8 ads recently.

Im searching for it, but someone posted a commercial last week that was just released. It showed a helicopter dumping it in a garage (while it was in a shipping container) and it busting out of it. Sounded mean as hell.

ah, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjaGZQ1CXJs

Finally, I figured it out. That was whipping me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjaGZQ1CXJs

Finally, I figured it out. That was whipping me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjaGZQ1CXJs

thanks. I couldnt figure out how to embed it either. wow, that was simple.

guess the G8 is military spec strength!

I want to try the autocrossing, but I have no idea how that guy knew where to go!

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