22" wheels fill Wheel Well nicely, any thoughts on putting this size on G8. Are there many members planning on 22's?

I am not sure that 22s will look right on this car. Besides, I have not seen any summer performance tires offered in 22s from a brand that I recognize.

I think 22s fill the guards just right.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc6.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc4.jpg

Damn those are ugly.

:barf:

Not good!

I guess they have different tastes down under.

Oh Pleaseeeeee! How Tacky!!!!!

ahhh!!! Those rims have no business being on a performance sedan...

They just ruin the flow of the vehicle....

Different strokes for different folks but I wouldn't go any higher than 20's on a G8.

Different strokes for different folks but I wouldn't go any higher than 20's on a G8.

That is my opinion also.

I think 22s fill the guards just right.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc6.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc4.jpg

22s are are matter of taste, depending on what wheel you're using. VEGTS I like those wheels; I saw you your video, how could you not love those 22s.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/?action=view&current=Blownv8street.flv

:barf:

The 22's look good on the car, just not those. Maybe a 20/22 stagger...

22s are are matter of taste, depending on what wheel you're using. VEGTS I like those wheels; I saw you your video, how could you not love those 22s.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/?action=view&current=Blownv8street.flv

Thanks polefighter,That video was done with the old 2 1/2 " system. Now with the twin 3" it rocks. photos do my car no justice. You have to see the whole car in 1 glance. In person this cars tuff. That was the brief on building this car. You other guys can have your flow i want TUFF. People hear my car before seeing it & the reaction i want is holy f_____.

There's a lot of sacrifice in ride comfort with 22s and with these terrible roads we all have hit one pothole going too fast and you're guaranteed to order a new wheel and possibly a tire the next day. I remember the one time my brother told me he had installed 26s on his Escalade one time before. He hated the ride quality so much that he sold them and put on some 24s which were better. Plus they were terrible for highway driving. For people that are going to be spending a lot of time in the drivers seat of their cars I would definitely take this all into consideration. The price for 22in wheels and tires is enough to make me turn away. 19s and 20s will look just as good on these cars........maybe even better imo.

@VEGTS: You still have a great looking ride man. :thumbsup:

I had 22's on my 300, but, I put on big enough tires to make it ride and drive decent. That short of tire is gonna ride like ****. Gm will not change the computer to allow that tall of tire and wheel. In missouri with that short of tire and the holes in the roads, those wheels would be bent in a week. I've seen the guys with the tuner cars try to put 20's on a civic and they always have bent wheels. Even a 20 with a decent side wall is gonna be an inch taller then stock. I do like the big wheels, I've got them on my short bed, but, you have to be able to put a set of tires on that don't look like rubber bands. I know opinions are different, but, I just don't think the 22 is made for this car, maybe down under. G8er put 20's on his and to me that looks like the max. Just my opinion.
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check out my old 300 and it has a 265-35-22, the car down under probably has a 255-35-22 or smaller.
locrzn

the reaction i want is holy f_____.

That would be my exact reaction. But it would not mean what you want it to mean.

Reminds me of a Matchbox or Hot Wheels car.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc4.jpg

check out my old 300 and it has a 265-35-22, the car down under probably has a 255-35-22 or smaller.
locrzn

245/35/22 front 285/25/22 rear.

245/35/22 front 285/25/22 rear.
whats the width of the rims?

10s on the rear & 8.5 front.

10s on the rear & 8.5 front.
so with that 245/35 R22, does the tire rub the wheel well at all? Because my rim guy was thinking about going with 245/30 R22 or 255/30 R22 and i would much rather have that 35 for a larger side wall.

so with that 245/35 R22, does the tire rub the wheel well at all? Because my rim guy was thinking about going with 245/30 R22 or 255/30 R22 and i would much rather have that 35 for a larger side wall.


245/30/22 front.I get slight rubbing on 3/4 lock over bumps. I have just found out that these have way to much travel in their suspension rubbers. Pedders here are about to release a kit to rectify this. This may fix my slight rubbing.

nice rims, but they look like wagon wheels. just a little too big to be on a car. just my .02 but it's your ride and your money :) Whatever floats your boat

how is this for a nice set of 22 x 9 all round then....i have 245 30 22 front &
255 30 22 rear & tein coilover suspension . don't bother with lowered springs if your serious..your std shocks will just bottom out & be stuffed in no time....some pix of my 22s hope you like these:aus_flag:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03381-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03380-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03379-1.jpg

Now see, those, look pretty damned good. Course, I just think that 22"s are too big, but my opinion only!

Otherwise, those are nice looking rims.

^agreeing with Slizzo. nice wheels but there needs to be some more tire on them. If they were 19's or 20's they would look just as good. My 2 cents.

^agree, I wouldn't go over 20. Besides performance and handling drawbacks... it just doesn't look good to me to have that little sidewall. Race cars don't do that, performance cars don't do that... so I wouldn't do that to this nice performance sedan. Of course, it's your vehicle, you can do anything you want to it.

That is my opinion also.

x2. im going to stick with the 19's and some thicker rubber.

chrish

Don't ruin the car with wheels that big...
22's are for HUMMERS and other tastelessly designed cars.
http://image.carcraft.com/f/miscellaneous/sn95-mustang-on-26-inch-wheels/1049013+w600+cr1+re0+ar1/mustang-on-26-inch-wheels.jpg

22" wheels fill Wheel Well nicely, any thoughts on putting this size on G8. Are there many members planning on 22's?

Heck NO!

19 is just fine, if I even go that BIG!

Remember kids, BLING kills, cars too! :fawkdance: :slap:

stick with 19's TBH

You guys who love those 22-inch wheels, have you thought to weigh those puppies? I'll bet you're adding 25# per corner with those which hurts ride and performance (you've got to get those wheels moving from rest and stopped from moving).

I would never add those to my car, but I care about vehicle dynamics.

how is this for a nice set of 22 x 9 all round then....i have 245 30 22 front &
255 30 22 rear & tein coilover suspension . don't bother with lowered springs if your serious..your std shocks will just bottom out & be stuffed in no time....some pix of my 22s hope you like these:aus_flag:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03381-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03380-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03379-1.jpg


Dayum, that is sweet!!!

22s are a matter of choice, some get them just for show. Sure the weight of those wheels has an effect on your driving dynamic but that's a choice some will make. I like the look of some with 22s but not all. I am considering 20s or 22s

I love these 22s, my 1st choice:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/22_01.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/21.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/20.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/19.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/18.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/17.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/16.jpg

You guys who love those 22-inch wheels, have you thought to weigh those puppies? I'll bet you're adding 25# per corner with those which hurts ride and performance (you've got to get those wheels moving from rest and stopped from moving).

I would never add those to my car, but I care about vehicle dynamics.

vehicle dynamics bla bla bla .....22 inch wheels don't alter the ride any more than 20s do...you will only have poor performance if you just fit lowered springs with the standard length shocks....they will bottom out giving you very poor cornering & braking..but this car fitted with tein coilover shocks will out perform any 19/20 inch wheel car fitted with lowed springs with std shocks..
with 414 rwhp i has no trouble getting these wheels spinning let alone getting them moving....but wheels are a personal choice.. but i can say these look better than any 19s or 20s on the ve/g8...it has a way of making 20s look small.. but i might be slightly bias.....just my 2c
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03323.jpg
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http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03297.jpg

Love this setup. What kind of Intake tube is that?

Ignition,

Your age is showing (or lack thereof).

Of course you can choose to go "Bling!" if you want, but those vehicle dynamics you consider so unimportant will have negative effects on your VE, like it or not. Your ride will be worse (due to increased unsprung mass and lower aspect ratio tires) and acceleration/deceleration will be hurt versus smaller, lighter wheels/tires. You don't seem to care; its your choice.

Love this setup. What kind of Intake tube is that?
hi vhato
that is the aussie KPM 4 inch cold air intake with a k&n pod type air filter....

Ignition,

Your age is showing (or lack thereof).

Of course you can choose to go "Bling!" if you want, but those vehicle dynamics you consider so unimportant will have negative effects on your VE, like it or not. Your ride will be worse (due to increased unsprung mass and lower aspect ratio tires) and acceleration/deceleration will be hurt versus smaller, lighter wheels/tires. You don't seem to care; its your choice.


are you the guy in the white shirt on myth busters??? the change in unsprung mass is the same for any lowered vehicle & tire aspect ratio difference is 25mm over std...but yes it is my choice...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc4.jpg

Whats up with this guy's hood?

Looks strange. :eek2:

Don't ruin the car with wheels that big...
22's are for HUMMERS and other tastelessly designed cars.
http://image.carcraft.com/f/miscellaneous/sn95-mustang-on-26-inch-wheels/1049013+w600+cr1+re0+ar1/mustang-on-26-inch-wheels.jpg
I share the same sentiment. 19" looks good and the 20"s on the concept were nice but anything bigger just looks goofy.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc4.jpg

Whats up with this guy's hood?

Looks strange. :eek2:


Its called a walkinshaw power hood. A reverse bonnet scoop,sucks air out of the engine bay as well as a feature .

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/mc5.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/V8GTP/Image020.jpg

Some people like it, some people hate it ,but i think its tuff.

vehicle dynamics bla bla bla .....22 inch wheels don't alter the ride any more than 20s do...you will only have poor performance if you just fit lowered springs with the standard length shocks

Tires are very important to vehicle performance and sidewall flex is important to maintain grip... Too much sidewall flex gives the car a mushy handling feel, too little does not allow the tire to stay in contact with the road resulting in poor cornering and braking.

Tires are very important to vehicle performance and sidewall flex is important to maintain grip... Too much sidewall flex gives the car a mushy handling feel, too little does not allow the tire to stay in contact with the road resulting in poor cornering and braking.

I completely agree with this. Why do you think that GT cars aren't running around on 22"+ rims on the tracks? All the reasons others have stated above.

22s are a matter of choice, some get them just for show. Sure the weight of those wheels has an effect on your driving dynamic but that's a choice some will make. I like the look of some with 22s but not all. I am considering 20s or 22s

I love these 22s, my 1st choice:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/22_01.jpg<br>

What kind of wheels are these? I would guess that they make a 20'' in this? I saw some similar to these on a range rover the other day but they were black/chrome mix on the spokes, they woulda looked awesome on my black G8 thats on its way! :)

What kind of wheels are these? I would guess that they make a 20'' in this? I saw some similar to these on a range rover the other day but they were black/chrome mix on the spokes, they woulda looked awesome on my black G8 thats on its way! :)

Those are ACE Executive wheels:

Ace Alloy Wheels (http://www.acealloywheel.com/wheel-model-detail_13936.html)

Yeah adding 22" rims to a vehicle does add weight, lowers performance and handling, but who races on a daily basis anyway. Gas prices are too high for racing!!! Adding 22" makes the vehicle look sooooo much better. Why do you think American Manufacturers tend to build bigger wheel wells these days? FOR BIGGER RIMS!!!LOL My 22" will be on my GT next week, check back for pics.

I completely agree with this. Why do you think that GT cars aren't running around on 22"+ rims on the tracks? All the reasons others have stated above.

this is not a track car ...and corners and brakes very nicely thank you on public roads at the speed limit....but yes if it was a track car it would be setup in a different way to suit ....:driving:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03315.jpg

Yeah adding 22" rims to a vehicle does add weight, lowers performance and handling, but who races on a daily basis anyway. Gas prices are too high for racing!!! Adding 22" makes the vehicle look sooooo much better. Why do you think American Manufacturers tend to build bigger wheel wells these days? FOR BIGGER RIMS!!!LOL My 22" will be on my GT next week, check back for pics.

way to go buddy ....it will be a very cool looking ride with the 22s on...cant wait to see it...22 inch is the new cool..nothing to do with racing..all this talk about how much 22s weigh....you guys will not have the fastest car in the world just because you have 19 inch wheels fitted....man yous will be taking the rear seats and carpets out next ...get over the wheel size boys...
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03327.jpg
much cooler than those little 19s...with plenty of tire there...

Yeah adding 22" rims to a vehicle does add weight, lowers performance and handling, but who races on a daily basis anyway. Gas prices are too high for racing!!! Adding 22" makes the vehicle look sooooo much better. Why do you think American Manufacturers tend to build bigger wheel wells these days? FOR BIGGER RIMS!!!LOL My 22" will be on my GT next week, check back for pics.

And in that statement that I highlighted above, just what do you think that adding bigger, heavier rims will do to your mileage? Oh yeah, it will lower it!

And in that statement that I highlighted above, just what do you think that adding bigger, heavier rims will do to your mileage? Oh yeah, it will lower it!

who cares ....you don't buy a 6ltr v8 and worry a bout how much petrol it uses..boy some of you guys worry about some petty things...it would equate to three tenth of f--k all mate..:bs:

It's funny how people without G8s seem to post negative comments throughout this entire forum. Jealously is a weak emotion, I mean if you cant get one, dont hate on someone else. Just step your game up.:driving:

way to go buddy ....it will be a very cool looking ride with the 22s on...cant wait to see it...22 inch is the new cool..nothing to do with racing..all this talk about how much 22s weigh....you guys will not have the fastest car in the world just because you have 19 inch wheels fitted....man yous will be taking the rear seats and carpets out next ...get over the wheel size boys...
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03327.jpg
much cooler than those little 19s...with plenty of tire there...

Those wheels are sick. Hot looking ride too.

It's funny how people without G8s seem to post negative comments throughout this entire forum. Jealously is a weak emotion, I mean if you cant get one, dont hate on someone else. Just step your game up.:driving:

I only post something negative when I see something that is just outrageous.

I had 18"s on my GP GTP, and honestly, I probably wouldn't go over 19" rims on any car, as I just don't see any benefit to it.

Of course, I'm more into the performance aspect of driving, not the "Bling" aspect of it. I just find huge rims stupid looking.

To each their own. If you guys are happy with your 22" rims, then great. I just hope you guys go easy on your cars with those large rims. It will add more stress to your drivetrain over the years than the normal 18" or 19" rims. Of course, I know this drivetrain is relatively strong, but I digress.

Oh, as for mileage, if the G8GT gets about the same mileage as my 1999 GTP on 87 while I'm on 93, then of course I'm springing for the GT! It will be cheaper to run in the long run. And especially with a 93 tune. If it gets better mileage on a 93 tune than my car currently does on 93, then there you go.

I was worried that this would happen with G8s. It's the 300/Charger/Magnum all over again :(

how is this for a nice set of 22 x 9 all round then....i have 245 30 22 front &
255 30 22 rear & tein coilover suspension . don't bother with lowered springs if your serious..your std shocks will just bottom out & be stuffed in no time....some pix of my 22s hope you like these:aus_flag:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03381-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03380-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03379-1.jpg

BEST LOOKING WHEEL ON A G8! :hail:
WHATS THE OFFSET, 39?

thanks mate...
they are 22 x 9 all round...245 30 front & 255 30 rear....
the offset is 45...dont put to big a tyre on the rear because there is a little lug at the rear of the rear wheel arch area where the guard and the bar is secured together...but just don't fit 19s on these things ...they look way to small..20 is the minimum rim size.....18 & 19s look like you v got wheels of someone else's car:nono:...just look at the posts of the ones with 18s & 19s.. not a good look..

i gota say ignition youre car look great

I like some of the bigger wheels, but others I just don't like the style. I think the 20's would look good.

I really don't understand why everyone bashes someone for a personal choice. Do we even know what certain 22's weight compared to stock? Are the people concerned with weight looking into ultra lightweight wheels vs. stock to pick-up performance? I see people asking about big brake kits, is everyone saying it's stupid because you won't be able to accelerate as fast - only stop better?

I'm just trying to see where everyone is coming from on this one...

I like some of the bigger wheels, but others I just don't like the style. I think the 20's would look good.

I really don't understand why everyone bashes someone for a personal choice. Do we even know what certain 22's weight compared to stock? Are the people concerned with weight looking into ultra lightweight wheels vs. stock to pick-up performance? I see people asking about big brake kits, is everyone saying it's stupid because you won't be able to accelerate as fast - only stop better?

I'm just trying to see where everyone is coming from on this one...

if a car is fitted with 18 or 19 inch wheels and another car is fitted with 22s you still wont get to Macdonald's in time to stop them from putting the pickle on your burger...boy wot is with you guys over there who weighs wheels ....all this 22s give bad performance is just an old wives tail...stop watching the myth busters you guys...get with the plan...

Im not sure if I like the 22's or not, seems a little too big for the G8, 20's would look good for sure though.

It's dirty because it was raining, but I'll post clean pics later.


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70615.jpg


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70616.jpg

Clean 'em all you want, they'll still look terrible. Just one man's opinion though...

SPECS PLEASE....

1. Front and back tire size...
2. Rim size F & B 22 X ?
3. offset F & B...
4. Brand and price...

Ignition, I don't know what the roads are like in Oz, but one good run-in with a pothole will completely destroy your wheel(s) and that's a huge expense. I don't know much about weight ratio and springs and yada yada yada, but I do respect and understand the freedom of choice. It's just not practical for most people who live in pothole hell like here in Michigan.

J Grand - I see you live in Detroit...are you not worried at all about the terrible roads in the D? I hit a pothole leaving downtown Detroit with my '02 Grand Prix GT on an onramp, just getting up to speed, so I was going 55-60. It rattled my car so bad that I knew something was up. I got out, saw the shredded tire and the chunk that was taken out of the actual wheel. It was a relatively inexpensive fix to replace the stock wheel but imagine if I had 20s or 22s on there?!? So I pray you can avoid all those potholes around Detroit and keep your wheels looking how they're intended to look. Good luck and Go Red Wings, Tigers AND Pistons!

Peace,

SPECS PLEASE....

1. Front and back tire size...
2. Rim size F & B 22 X ?
3. offset F & B...
4. Brand and price...
22 X 8.5 all around
Verde Madonna
245 30 Hankook
$2000
38mm

thanks J_grand

is $2000 total price? (tires and rims)

Dear God... why????

this is hell funny the way everyone is arguing their own tastes.!!

anyway, that last wheel is just way too much chrome for our cars!! and too big and too much going on in the wheel. Our stock 19 is a great looking wheel, it could be bigger but thats it.

i think I might have my stock 19's smoke tint chromed. That way its not so bling and it will look sick but not too over the top. I also dont like the balck center cap that comes stock.

I think it looks ok. Would of had them in 20 though not 22.

thanks J_grand

is $2000 total price? (tires and rims)
yup that tires and rims...they were actually $2200

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70615.jpg


Looks great, but added weight.

How heavy are they compared to stock?

They do look good.

J..
that looks smick man.....looks like there is not to many over there that know how to make these things look hot..those 22s look cool....park your car next to another G8 with 18 or 19s on and no one will look at them with yours car there...
Aussies cant get rid of the 18s & 19s fast enough.... 20inch is the minimum for this model with 22s the coolest..
top job mate looks great...:hail: very nice

It's dirty because it was raining, but I'll post clean pics later.


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70615.jpg


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70616.jpg

J GRAND, I think those are look very nice on your G8, a nice 1" drop would look sweet. I sit an read that people here would not go larger than a 19", I hear some say 18" is good enough....even 20", when it's all said and done, it boils done to: THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.... People like making their car unique from others, wouldn't it be ashame if EVERONE decided to do exactly what someone else did.

For those of you who decide to go with 22" wheels, I would have to agree with MrGD8....watch out for those pot holes, those are a mother no matter what state you're in.

The G8 is a hell of a nice looking Performance car and when we decide to change or add to our G8 in my opinion, we fall into one of these 3 catorgories:

1. Those who just like performance
2. Those who like both performance & looks
3. Those who only like a certain look

My question though is "How Does It Ride" compared to the stock wheels?

J..
that looks smick man.....looks like there is not to many over there that know how to make these things look hot..those 22s look cool....park your car next to another G8 with 18 or 19s on and no one will look at them with yours car there...
Aussies cant get rid of the 18s & 19s fast enough.... 20inch is the minimum for this model with 22s the coolest..
top job mate looks great...:hail: very nice

Ignition, thats the biggest load of crap yet, Ive seen sweet F@@@ all 22ss on the SS or the HSV, if you posted this crap on the LS1 oz forum you would be laughed off there.
Your wheels are cool but dont BS everyone here whats going on in OZ, most of the 22s are bling bling crap, weigh about 100 % more than the standard 19s and are on cars with neon underneath lol

Ignition, thats the biggest load of crap yet, Ive seen sweet F@@@ all 22ss on the SS or the HSV, if you posted this crap on the LS1 oz forum you would be laughed off there.
Your wheels are cool but dont BS everyone here whats going on in OZ, most of the 22s are bling bling crap, weigh about 100 % more than the standard 19s and are on cars with neon underneath lol

if you read it correctly it says 20 inch is the minimum choice for VE's in oz ....and 22s look the coolest.....mr hsvr8 you need to read the posts correctly .

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70622.jpg

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hows the ride quality now? if theres any left...JK

hows the ride quality now? if theres any left...JK
actually its not that bad...the thing you notice the most is braking distance

how about performance?

ignition,

Style often comes at a cost and you're 22s are going to cost you some money while you own them. The first pothole you hit will bend those rims.
I'm glad you like the 22s. Everybody has their own taste and that's what makes modding fun.
But to say that it is an old wive's tale that the a larger diameter wheel does not affect the dynamics of a car or truck is laughable.
If it did not, then Chevy would not have excluded the factory approved 20" rims from the short bed Silverado crew cab when it first came out.
The larger the rim the more likely it is to come into the footwell in a bad crash.

Lastly, rlsedition was an engineer on the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP and I am doubtful that you know more about what a larger rim does to a car than he does. And it is not about racing, it is about the everyday affects on how a vehicle handles even the most minor bump in the road.

how about performance?
its a little slower, but i dont race that often...so who cares

ignition,

Style often comes at a cost and you're 22s are going to cost you some money while you own them. The first pothole you hit will bend those rims.
I'm glad you like the 22s. Everybody has their own taste and that's what makes modding fun.
But to say that it is an old wive's tale that the a larger diameter wheel does not affect the dynamics of a car or truck is laughable.
If it did not, then Chevy would not have excluded the factory approved 20" rims from the short bed Silverado crew cab when it first came out.
The larger the rim the more likely it is to come into the footwell in a bad crash.

Lastly, rlsedition was an engineer on the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP and I am doubtful that you know more about what a larger rim does to a car than he does. And it is not about racing, it is about the everyday affects on how a vehicle handles even the most minor bump in the road.
well if does affect cars then why are cars coming with bigger rims and the are faster than before. Its just that foreign car companies have been putting larger rims on vehicles for years now and american companies are just starting to understand that larger rims do indeed increase performance. Yeah my 22s dont in this case, but why are 17-18 inch rims usually standard on all cars now compared to 5 years ago standard rims were 15 inches

b4z
well don't loose any sleep over my wheels you just do what you think looks good ....oh and brakes & handles better ...but a 22 inch with a 245 / 30 tire is 25 mm bigger than a 20 inch with a 245 / 35 tire....

Everyone keeps talking about performance...HELLO, its a freakin' automatic. and the whole concept of an auto stick is terrible in any vehicle. so until i get a manaul (Camaro Z28), then 22s it is. All this talk about performance with an automatic, you guys are terrible:fawkdance:

i think the 22's look good. if you don't like them you're probably gay.

well if does affect cars then why are cars coming with bigger rims and the are faster than before. Its just that foreign car companies have been putting larger rims on vehicles for years now and american companies are just starting to understand that larger rims do indeed increase performance. Yeah my 22s dont in this case, but why are 17-18 inch rims usually standard on all cars now compared to 5 years ago standard rims were 15 inches

Cars are faster than before because they have more horsepower than before. If you increase horsepower, you need to increase the ability to stop the vehicle, which means bigger brakes. In order to fit bigger brakes, you need bigger wheels.

Now, as a general rule, lower profile tires tend to handle better than taller profile tires. Less sidewall squirm = faster transitional response. However, there is a point of diminishing returns. Meaning that continuing to go to an even lower profile will not give any additional performance and may even reduce performance.

Lets say a car of a few years ago had 205/60R15 tires as standard (about 25 inch overall diameter). A proper plus 1 would be 205/55R16. Plus 2 would be 205/50R17, plus 3 is 205/40R18, plus 4 is 205/35R19. Would the plus fitments all offer increased handling over the stock 15 inch? Probably, but the 18s and 19s may not offer as significant an advantage as the 17s. A lot depends on the wheel/tire combo, the vehicle itself and the type of tire.

Keep in mind, nothing is free. The bigger wheel you put (especially 20 inch and above), you are increasing unsprung weight, which will adversely affect handling and braking. If you don't upgrade the brakes, you are making them work harder and you may increase braking distances and shorten pad/rotor life. Same goes for the shocks, which have to rebound more weight. Expect shorter shock life.

If you really want to increase performance, find the lightest wheels and put the widest, stickiest road legal tires you can on them (with 18s and 19s on the car from the factory, you really don't need to increase rim diameter, just wider and a lower offset). Anything else is simply for looks. Which is okay, just don't try to justify it with the blanket of increased performance. :judge:

Good post G. It summarizes the trade-offs nicely.

Don't care what anyone says, I like the 22's on his car. I would never put them on my car, but I think the car looks awesome. Congrats.

Everyone keeps talking about performance...HELLO, its a freakin' automatic. and the whole concept of an auto stick is terrible in any vehicle. so until i get a manaul (Camaro Z28), then 22s it is. All this talk about performance with an automatic, you guys are terrible:fawkdance:


????? i think my 11sec AUTO is performance, even with 22" wheels. If i put the std 20 rims on i spin & spin & spin.I need the 285/22 to get grip.

Yuck.

And manual does not equal performance.

Who are we kidding, bigger is better right?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/suededblack/40susamotorsports.jpg

Keep in mind, nothing is free. The bigger wheel you put (especially 20 inch and above), you are increasing unsprung weight, which will adversely affect handling and braking. If you don't upgrade the brakes, you are making them work harder and you may increase braking distances and shorten pad/rotor life. Same goes for the shocks, which have to rebound more weight. Expect shorter shock life.

If you really want to increase performance, find the lightest wheels and put the widest, stickiest road legal tires you can on them (with 18s and 19s on the car from the factory, you really don't need to increase rim diameter, just wider and a lower offset). Anything else is simply for looks. Which is okay, just don't try to justify it with the blanket of increased performance. :judge:

Excellent points. Some have mentioned that they have better grip with 22's (which look to be significantly WIDER than the stock wheel). This due strictly to the increase in contact patch (wider = better :D ... Long lost Pontiac ad campaign) and has nothing to do with wheel diameter.

glugo1001,
summed it up pretty well, nice!

VEGTS,
If you like the bigger wheel, then great but I would argue that you would get better traction at a given tire height with a smaller diameter wheel and a proper tire. Something with a little sidewall give would work great on the dragstrip.

KaiserM715,
An argument can be made that you cannot increase the size of the tire contact patch for a given tire height, vehicle weight, and air pressure, only change its shape.

To the OP,
for blingy wheels I think they look pretty good.

Everybody,
Your car, your style, have fun.

KaiserM715,
An argument can be made that you cannot increase the size of the tire contact patch for a given tire height, vehicle weight, and air pressure, only change its shape.

My comment was based on the fact that one "contributor" went from a 245 width tire to a 285 width tire. Wider tire = wider contact patch.

I understood what you were saying. Wider yes at the expense of length, the area remains the same. I posted because many people are under the assumption that bigger tires = more "grip" which isn't necessarily true.

Yuck.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/suededblack/40susamotorsports.jpg

That THING is horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big wheels are a public danger.

Quote:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=992964 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=992964)

Synopsis: A "donk" was in the oncoming lanes of the interstate when one of its "dubs" came loose, hit the center divider, and launched into the roof of this BMW driver. He escaped death by inches.

That much mass spun up at interstate speeds is a bouncing gyroscope of death just waiting to happen. There's a reason full-size truck hubs are as beefy as they are.

Big wheels are a public danger.

That much mass spun up at interstate speeds is a bouncing gyroscope of death just waiting to happen. There's a reason full-size truck hubs are as beefy as they are.

I couldn't agree more. The simple physics of what you have to do to the poor suspension of one of these (usually older and poorly conditioned) vehicles puts a tremendous strain on the chassis and drivetrain parts. But then you have idiots who say stuff like "I don't want to race, I just want to look good" who don't understand that a car built like that can sit in the driveway and fall apart.

DONK-ey Kong 4 Life!

i don't get why everyone is pushing the safety issue. everyone on here is putting parts to make your car go faster, along with going faster = stopping faster. so whether you're putting bigger wheels or aftermarket parts brakes should be upgraded.

VEGTS,
If you like the bigger wheel, then great but I would argue that you would get better traction at a given tire height with a smaller diameter wheel and a proper tire. Something with a little sidewall give would work great on the dragstrip.

Ive driven on both sets of wheels & can say the 22s grip much better. I have the same tyre brand & series on both sets of wheels. I dont drive my car easy, it gets a flogging every day so i do know a little about grip.

i don't get why everyone is pushing the safety issue. everyone on here is putting parts to make your car go faster, along with going faster = stopping faster. so whether you're putting bigger wheels or aftermarket parts brakes should be upgraded.

With the gts we get 365mm rotors & 4 pot calipers so stopping isnt a problem.

don't bother with lowered springs if your serious..your std shocks will just bottom out & be stuffed in no time
Really? I've driven 20,000km / 12,500 miles since my car was lowered with Walkinshaw springs and I haven't had a single problem. My car was lowered in August 2007 with 3,500km on the clock. At 8,000km I had my current 20" wheels fitted, still no problems at all.

Oddly enough my Mom's Calais (stock) V has travelled 13,000km / 8125 miles (from August 2006 to now) and it recently had a rear shock fail. It was replaced under warranty though.

Go figure!

Really? I've driven 20,000km / 12,500 miles since my car was lowered with Walkinshaw springs and I haven't had a single problem. My car was lowered in August 2007 with 3,500km on the clock. At 8,000km I had my current 20" wheels fitted, still no problems at all.

Oddly enough my Mom's Calais (stock) V has travelled 13,000km / 8125 miles (from August 2006 to now) and it recently had a rear shock fail. It was replaced under warranty though.

Go figure!

it wont happen overnight but it will happen..with the reduced allowable piston travel by lowering your car with just lowered springs (of any brand) and you bottom the shock out... the piston in them will be damaged..i went with the high performance option of fully adjustable coilover suspension....but its a personal choice at the end of the day with just springs being a lot cheaper for that good ride hight and look..good luck with it...

Not a fan of big wheels, or even chrome wheels, but I have to admit, this doesn't look half bad.

Two thumbs up for originality. :judge:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70615.jpg


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/JGrand48219/STA70616.jpg

it wont happen overnight but it will happen..with the reduced allowable piston travel by lowering your car with just lowered springs (of any brand) and you bottom the shock out... the piston in them will be damaged..i went with the high performance option of fully adjustable coilover suspension....but its a personal choice at the end of the day with just springs being a lot cheaper for that good ride hight and look..good luck with it...

assuming all components are left stock except for springs, and OEM bumpstops are left in place, how will lowering the car cause you to bottom out the shocks?

I am not saying it won't I just don't see how it would. The range of motion is reduced but the collapsed height is still the same as the OEM designed it.

assuming all compnents are left stock except for springs, and OEM bumpstops are left in place, how will lowering the car cause you to bottom out the shocks?

I am not saying it won't I just don't see how it would. The range of motion is reduced but the collapsed height is still the same as the OEM designed it.

if you lower your car 1 inch then you have also lowered the shock piston 1 inch inside the cylinder...if you do bottom out the shocks the bumpstops will just be crushed ...split and fall out....but most get away with it...

If you bottom out the shocks they will be damaged. However, lowering your car one inch with springs will not cause you to bottom the shocks out any more than stock ride height would. The system is designed to be completely collapsed without damage. If you change components (arms, spindles, remove the bumpstops, etc) or do anything that would increase the allowable suspension travel then you may have an issue ramming the piston into the top of shock body.

Using your logic bottoming out (hitting the bumpstops) even at the stock ride height would ruin the shocks.

I would think that the lower profile tire (less sidewall = less deflection) compared with higher profile tire, all other things being equal (width, overall diameter) The higher profile tire would have a bigger (slightly) contact area with more rolling resistance.

Also as outside tire diameter increases, there would again be an increase in contact patch compared with a smaller diameter tire, again slight.

My other thought was as contact patch area increases (aka wider tires) the per sq. inch pressure drops (amount of downward pressure). Lets say for a 8" wide tire the contact patch is 10" and since the cars have a static weight distribution of approx. 50/50 that would (or should) mean that for a 4000 LB. car each tire is supporting 1000lbs. (I realize once the car is moving there are alot more variables involved) that would mean each sq. inch is supporting 100 lbs. (10" contact area divided into 1000lb per tire weight).

Where am I going with this? I figure at some point there is an optimum balance/tradeoff between pressure per sq. inch and grip (not to mention rolling resistance).

Also what do the racing guys use? Do Indy cars have low profile tires? If not why not?

I am sure they could afford to have tires 3' wide if it made it made the cars handle better. So again there must be some optimum balance between width, rolling resistance and what ever else I can't think of.

Any thoughts?

If you bottom out the shocks they will be damaged. However, lowering your car one inch with springs will not cause you to bottom the shocks out any more than stock ride height would. The system is designed to be completely collapsed without damage. If you change components (arms, spindles, remove the bumpstops, etc) or do anything that would increase the allowable suspension travel then you may have an issue ramming the piston into the top of shock body.

Using your logic bottoming out (hitting the bumpstops) even at the stock ride height would ruin the shocks.

I agree, the simple act of lowering the ride height (springs) will not damage the shocks if the car bottoms out.

22s are a matter of choice, some get them just for show. Sure the weight of those wheels has an effect on your driving dynamic but that's a choice some will make. I like the look of some with 22s but not all. I am considering 20s or 22s

I love these 22s, my 1st choice:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/22_01.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/21.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/20.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/19.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/18.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/17.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/16.jpg



I Love these wheels.....What info do you have on them?


Sorry Found the info Ace Executive wheels...

I like Ignitions look but the others here with 22's are not my taste. But my taste is not right or wrong just my taste. I like my 20's and could not justify going any bigger. My first set of 20's got bent by a pothole in Ohio. Needless to say I pay more attention to the road right in front of me then I used to. I am also putting the stock 18's back on for winter when the potholes multiply and grow.

wheres all the rubber??? I bet you hit one bump and the thing feels like you just slipped on ice and fell right on your butt.

This is funny! Since joining this board, its like watching the ls2gto board grow all over again. they had a post similar except it was about fitting 20s. Everyone argued and in the end most got rid of their big wheels and went for performance. others kept the big wheels and had fast highway cars that looked good. Its all in what YOU like. No sence arguing. Autos can (doesn't mean they always will) perform better than a manual in a straight line so don't doubt them, and with a really good driver and this transmission they can even perform very well on a road course, but a manual on a road course is best. I say that b/c some one made a comment about performance and an auto. Told me alot about how much they really knew about cars. The fastest GTOs on the board all ran 15 inch lightweight wheels and tires. I know I have personally watched two of the 9 sec ones. I say if you like big wheels drive on them to look good, but if you want to drive fast have a back up set of smaller performance based rims and tires! JMHO!

To my eyes, anything over "plus 2" on the G8 looks pretty cartoonish. The G8 has 18" wheels standard, so the 19" of the Sport Package is "plus 1". The pictures I've seen with 20" wheels (plus 2) still look OK, but over that doesn't look right to me. Any ideas of having staggered outside diameters (19" front, 20" back) should be approached with caution since it could cause problems with the stability control, ABS and the speedometer. Unless it's done with different tire profiles to maintain the same outside diameter (which I think would look terrible).

The biggest weakness with the stock G8's stance visually is something almost nobody ever talks about. The wheels and tires are buried much too deeply inside of those big, sexy fenders. Especially in the rear, it's very noticeable. Bring those out closer to the fender's edges and I think many folks would find out that they don't need aftermarket wheels or even lowering springs to make the car look a whole lot meaner.

I'm having my rear fenders rolled, hopefully this week. Then I'll measure the clearance and I've got a friend with a CNC machine that's going to make me up some proper wheel spacers. I'll post pictures when it's done to see what ya'll think.

Also what do the racing guys use? Do Indy cars have low profile tires? If not why not?

I am sure they could afford to have tires 3' wide if it made it made the cars handle better. So again there must be some optimum balance between width, rolling resistance and what ever else I can't think of.

Any thoughts?

I think many racing sanctioning bodies use higher profile tires as one of the ways to keep speeds down, thereby increasing safety. I've read that Formula 1 cars could go faster with lower profile tires, but the rules won't allow it for safety reasons. Many of the rules these days are to limit speeds, so you can't always go by what they are using as a barometer for ultimate performance. I'm sure there is a theoretical "optimum", I'm just pointing out why racing may not be the place to find it.

22" are no problem on the g8. 22x8.5 using a 245 30 22 will fit all day. keep the offset around +35.

if you need anymore tire and wheel fitment info, check this site out. very good info for plus sizing tires and wheels.
http://www.sizeitup.com

Ignition that **** is phat.

Everybody layoff if ya dont like em, cool. Don't put them on your whip. But give credit for creativity and balls. 2 much weight bla bla bla, bad ride performance blah blah blah.

SWAT team of action-hungry suburban cops showed up in flak jackets

LOL

Damn, Sweden has some weird posts about 22's! Didnt know info about rim and tire could only be found in porn links in Sweden. Like that country!! LMAO

Oh man, pink or stink, choices choices.........time to wake the wife!

J grand, I've seen you In OakPark a few times.

Good Lookin' ride man.

We need to meet up for the dream cruise next year.

I don't think it's so much the size that makes the 22"s not look good, it's simply the style...

most oversize wheel styles just look horrible, IMO...

I don't think the G8 needs anything more than a 20" rim anyhow...

So 22s can fit on a stock G8 hunh. That means i wont have to get too much height customization done for 24s then.

After seeing all these pics, i take back what i said about this guy...http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/3116000-3116999/3116185_2_full.jpg
Being the first to have 22s.

I like how this guy sat it on 22s and then hooked it up with a twin turbo kit. Check it out. Ill most likely be doing something similiar to mine.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3116185

Those wheels AND that car ROCK! I would like to do the 20"
in those same wheels. Can you tell me what the price is on those?

Thanks!

how is this for a nice set of 22 x 9 all round then....i have 245 30 22 front &
255 30 22 rear & tein coilover suspension . don't bother with lowered springs if your serious..your std shocks will just bottom out & be stuffed in no time....some pix of my 22s hope you like these:aus_flag:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03381-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03380-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03379-1.jpg

Dayum, that is sweet!!!
Exactly...The wheels only look good if the centerface is deep set. If it is flush with the rim, it looks somewhat comical. I think Ignition made a good choice.

What rims are those, look a bit like hre.

22s are a matter of choice, some get them just for show. Sure the weight of those wheels has an effect on your driving dynamic but that's a choice some will make. I like the look of some with 22s but not all. I am considering 20s or 22s

I love these 22s, my 1st choice:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/22_01.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/21.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/20.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/19.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/18.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/17.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/16.jpg

Well I think I have decided on these wheels. But in a 20" stagger setup, with the black lip and machined face. My wheel guy is getting a wheel delivered to mount on the car and take a look. Anyways thanks for the pictures! I love these wheels!!!

I guess they have different tastes down under.

No, we agree, they're just fugly! The stock rims are hard to beat.

I predict this next.

http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/g8wagon.gif

I predict this next.

http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/g8wagon.gif

Dayyyummm!!!:drink:

No seriously, i dont think they will get that high, but after i seen these 26s....
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/3178000-3178999/3178013_46_full.jpg?245116-314
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2920000-2920999/2920144_15_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2245/2961/30611480003_large.jpg

And the grand finale....28s....
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2518/1561/31293280002_large.jpg
, i think the limits just got pushed a lil bit further, ya digg!!!:drink:

I guess G8 is going to stand for Ghetto 8 soon.

it's only a select few that are bastardizing these G8's...

I like the One Lug wheel design - I saw them at SEMA this year.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/7/web/3163000-3163999/3163679_37.jpg?212923-304

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/7/web/3163000-3163999/3163679_38.jpg?212923-304

One lug? Hey not bad.:)

The above 2 posts are an attack site. If you don't have an anit-virus / spyware program do not click on the video or any links. And no I didn't click on it to check out the vid LOL! I have a link checker that notified my about it.

yeah, i've reported them as well...

he's posted elsewhere which i reported...

yeah, i've reported them as well...

he's posted elsewhere which i reported...

You mean me?

I think the posts he is talking about have been removed.

Yes, they have been removed and the poster nuked.

How about some nice 3 peice 22"

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs257.snc1/10419_184970927802_712182802_3767491_1225047_n.jpg

Thats pimp I like.

whats the width of the rims?

J Grand..What are those wheels on your car in the avatar. Can I see a better pitcure?

how is this for a nice set of 22 x 9 all round then....i have 245 30 22 front &
255 30 22 rear & tein coilover suspension . don't bother with lowered springs if your serious..your std shocks will just bottom out & be stuffed in no time....some pix of my 22s hope you like these:aus_flag:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03381-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03380-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03379-1.jpg
Sweet. What wheels are those? If i could get those in 20's...oh man!! A sublte change from stock but a lot more mascaline..:pimp:

Good luck, you will have to have them imported. The ones like them state side do not come in the proper offsets, why they don't carry them here who knows. I tried to get them as well but gave up it was a pita getting any info. There is a different name for the same exact wheel and manufacture state side. If I remember they called it sidewinder or something, it's been a long time since I was looking. I do recall getting pissed off about it though because I wanted them and was willing to shell out the cash but couldn't get them.

That bites. At least I've seen a design I like. I really love the ole schoo dish look and so similiar to stock that its like there designed for the car.

Sweet. What wheels are those? If i could get those in 20's...oh man!! A sublte change from stock but a lot more mascaline..:pimp:

http://www.axiswheels.com/wheels.php?id=exe

The wheel is called Flair under the Axis Wheels/EXE Brand.

Dayyyummm!!!:drink:

No seriously, i dont think they will get that high, but after i seen these 26s....
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/3178000-3178999/3178013_46_full.jpg?245116-314
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/2920000-2920999/2920144_15_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2245/2961/30611480003_large.jpg

And the grand finale....28s....
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2518/1561/31293280002_large.jpg
, i think the limits just got pushed a lil bit further, ya digg!!!:drink:

All of those look horrible. Sorry, but that is a waste.

I was driving down 8 mile here not long ago and noticed someone did some massive, ugly wheels on a 1984 or so Hurst Olds...nice way to ruin a car.

Don't get me wrong, I have friends with SUVs who put larger than stock wheels on them, but they have taste and pay for it...

Any car can look good, regardless if 19, 20,22 but pulling off the look with the right rim is another thing entirely.

To each their own..

I see a lot of cars in the metro area that look really f'd up. Terrible. I think it is just part of the inner city culture.

Hey what all do you have to do to fit 22s on the ride? I'm thinking about going with 20's or 22s depending on how much modding I got to do to fit the 22s. Thnx

Hey what all do you have to do to fit 22s on the ride? I'm thinking about going with 20's or 22s depending on how much modding I got to do to fit the 22s. ThnxHere's 22's on mine. 8.5 all around with no additional modding needed.

Verde Madonna's:

http://www.g8board.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=178&pictureid=725
http://www.carparts326.com/VERDEMadennaStyle56.jpg

They also come in black, but are hard to find in the U.S

http://www.talebtyres.com.au/content/products/Tn_Verde_Madonna_Blkchr_0034.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa148/medwin46/VE%20SS-V/P5240233.jpg

I completely agree with this. Why do you think that GT cars aren't running around on 22"+ rims on the tracks? All the reasons others have stated above.
Grand Touring cars is what you're speaking of?

The interstate and roadways of the world are not prep'ed, nor are they anything comparable to GT style tracks.

Your post is invalid and makes no sense.

Also, can we calm down the hate?

People who get big rims are NOT looking for performance. Why can't you people who post just a puking face understand this? They are looking for show, not go.

Don't hate because you have different tastes. I dislike some of this rides too, but I can respect that they are doing what they want for the money they have to spend.

People who get big rims are NOT looking for performance. Why can't you people who post just a puking face understand this? They are looking for show, not go.
Well considering I'm about 1 of 2 G8's in my city, I could still smoke most cars EVEN on my 22's.
Larger diameter wheels on a straight away are no problem, but on a circuit track I could see it being so.

Well considering I'm about 1 of 2 G8's in my city, I could still smoke most cars EVEN on my 22's.
Larger diameter wheels on a straight away are no problem, but on a circuit track I could see it being so.
Enough power can move 30 inch wheels. Does not mean you're fast. Don;t get me wrong, I am getting 20's come tax season.

But on my 18's, or my 20's.......id put bus lengths on you before you could shift. Is that a pissing contest? No, its to let you know, bigger wheels don't make you fast. They are for show, and show only.

No, its to let you know, bigger wheels don't make you fast. They are for show, and show only.

And, IMO, mods that are just for show but actually hurt performance just end up looking stupid to anyone who is informed.

G8s look great with wheels up to 20". (And you can get plenty of 20s that are lighter than the stock rims.) But bigger than that and, when I see your car, I just think "what a dumb owner... telling everyone on the street that his ride is slow and uncomfortable."

Here's 22's on mine. 8.5 all around with no additional modding needed.


I wonder what the damage would be if someone tried a full staggered setup with 22's in the rear and 20's in the front. I imagine it would solve the rubbing problem with the front wheels, but probably mess up the suspension and balancing...? Any thoughts? I know we got some technically savvy folks in here:driving:

They are for show, and show only.Yup..I've been showing most cars in my city that I'm faster than them. :)

I wonder what the damage would be if someone tried a full staggered setup with 22's in the rear and 20's in the front. I imagine it would solve the rubbing problem with the front wheels, but probably mess up the suspension and balancing...? Any thoughts? I know we got some technically savvy folks in here:driving:I attempted (kinda) & every shop said I would have issues. You could probably get away with a 20" wider front, but then that would look strange with a narrower rear.

Got my 22's on today... here's a before and after shot


Before
http://www.toughstreetcars.com/forum/imagehosting/14b3c12829de74.jpg

After
http://www.toughstreetcars.com/forum/imagehosting/14b3c12af564f6.jpg

Very nice.
Now see it just goes to show with the right style of wheel 22's can look nice & still good enough to whoop tail in a straight away.
What are the widths?

Damn those are nice! how much have they changed your ride quality accel, ride comfort, turning etc? I've heard all sorts of things change with 22's, the problem is its only the people without them giving the critique...

Got my 22's on today... here's a before and after shot


Before
http://www.toughstreetcars.com/forum/imagehosting/14b3c12829de74.jpg

After
http://www.toughstreetcars.com/forum/imagehosting/14b3c12af564f6.jpg

my mate has the same on his Maloo, just with the black/machined finish

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs118.snc1/5180_93113422019_744762019_1831778_5475715_n.jpg

Nice wheels. Good taste. Mine are 20 x 8.5 but those 22s look pretty damn good.

my mate has the same on his Maloo, just with the black/machined finish

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs118.snc1/5180_93113422019_744762019_1831778_5475715_n.jpg

Maybe a silly question, but is there any room for a small drop with the 22's or do they fill they whole wheelwell?

Maybe a silly question, but is there any room for a small drop with the 22's or do they fill they whole wheelwell?

that is lowered, as far as it can go on the standard suspension.

i think there was some slight trimming done to avoid scrubbing, but nothing excessive.

i did hear a rumour it could be riding on airbags soon though.... that will be interesting!

Asylem, your car is looking AWSOME! The 22's look so much better and not at all out of place, it must be the drop that makes it all work. Which wing is that you have?

thought i should re-instate, the black utility is my friends car, not mine :)

I wasn't talking about the black car though and sort of just past it by as I'm partial to the sedan. In looking back at the black utility I can see now that it looks like he has the 22's and you are probably running 20's? It's hard to tell, either way it's the club sport that looks right to me!

that is lowered, as far as it can go on the standard suspension.

i think there was some slight trimming done to avoid scrubbing, but nothing excessive.

i did hear a rumour it could be riding on airbags soon though.... that will be interesting!

I was actually asking if your Clubsport was lowered. I have been looking at 22's and it seems that the overall height of the 22" tire wheel combo will be taller to keep a reasonable sidewall height. Therefore I am not sure if I can do a small drop and 22's.

22"s aren't my taste...especially on a performance car. I almost crapped myself when I saw some people running 20"s+ on a GTO...WTF are u thinking!!!! 18"s look big on those cars

The ride is sporty/rough for a "luxury/performance sedan" as it is...add 22"s and it gets rougher, takes away from the handling, and they are downright expensive. In the northeast you'll scrape the crap out of 22"s with potholes etc.

I'd put my money toward other mods like exhaust/intake/headers...you could have bought headers and have them installed mostly likely for the price of those 22"s/tires....anyone disagree?

waste of money, looks cheesy, too flashy, rides like crap, not my style...I mean how many ways can it be said?

I have the summer only 19"s on my GT and I LIKE putting my 18" TSW nogaros on for the winter because the ride is better...so if I can notice a difference in ride frmo 18 to 19 i'm sure you'll notice 19 to 22"

I actually can't even think of a CAR i'd put 22"s on....I can think of some SUV's that would look good w/ them though!

22"s aren't my taste...especially on a performance car. I almost crapped myself when I saw some people running 20"s+ on a GTO...WTF are u thinking!!!! 18"s look big on those cars

The ride is sporty/rough for a "luxury/performance sedan" as it is...add 22"s and it gets rougher, takes away from the handling, and they are downright expensive. In the northeast you'll scrape the crap out of 22"s with potholes etc.

I'd put my money toward other mods like exhaust/intake/headers...you could have bought headers and have them installed mostly likely for the price of those 22"s/tires....anyone disagree?

waste of money, looks cheesy, too flashy, rides like crap, not my style...I mean how many ways can it be said?

I have the summer only 19"s on my GT and I LIKE putting my 18" TSW nogaros on for the winter because the ride is better...so if I can notice a difference in ride frmo 18 to 19 i'm sure you'll notice 19 to 22"

I actually can't even think of a CAR i'd put 22"s on....I can think of some SUV's that would look good w/ them though!

Most guys who buy 22's for their G8's already take all that into account. Obviously we're not looking to break any speed records or run circles around other comparable type vehicles with performance wheels. But let it be known that even with my 22's, I've put several other cars to shame (Mustangs, Lexus, Nissans) all on a stock engine.
Ride comfort, as least as perceived by me, is not really all that much of a change over stock. Obviously those of us with 22's, have to pay extra attention to potholes and what not, but I was already doing that (as I'm sure most others do as well) even when I had my stock 18's.
Waste of money? Depends on how much money you have and what you're aiming for. Some of us (myself excluded :() have enough funds to get nice wheels, along with all the upgrades you mentioned.
That being said, with the right 22's you can still have one nice looking G8.

22"s aren't my taste...especially on a performance car. I almost crapped myself when I saw some people running 20"s+ on a GTO...WTF are u thinking!!!! 18"s look big on those cars

The ride is sporty/rough for a "luxury/performance sedan" as it is...add 22"s and it gets rougher, takes away from the handling, and they are downright expensive. In the northeast you'll scrape the crap out of 22"s with potholes etc.

I'd put my money toward other mods like exhaust/intake/headers...you could have bought headers and have them installed mostly likely for the price of those 22"s/tires....anyone disagree?

waste of money, looks cheesy, too flashy, rides like crap, not my style...I mean how many ways can it be said?

I have the summer only 19"s on my GT and I LIKE putting my 18" TSW nogaros on for the winter because the ride is better...so if I can notice a difference in ride frmo 18 to 19 i'm sure you'll notice 19 to 22"

I actually can't even think of a CAR i'd put 22"s on....I can think of some SUV's that would look good w/ them though!

Walkinshaw Performance the king of making holdens/vauxhalls fast seems to think 22's work just fine....

http://www.walkinshawperformance.com.au/wp/2008/aus/news/news.asp?ID=330

Heres the Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA-11m7YFyg

Most guys who buy 22's for their G8's already take all that into account. Obviously we're not looking to break any speed records or run circles around other comparable type vehicles with performance wheels. But let it be known that even with my 22's, I've put several other cars to shame (Mustangs, Lexus, Nissans) all on a stock engine.
Ride comfort, as least as perceived by me, is not really all that much of a change over stock. Obviously those of us with 22's, have to pay extra attention to potholes and what not, but I was already doing that (as I'm sure most others do as well) even when I had my stock 18's.
Waste of money? Depends on how much money you have and what you're aiming for. Some of us (myself excluded :() have enough funds to get nice wheels, along with all the upgrades you mentioned.
That being said, with the right 22's you can still have one nice looking G8.


Well said.....

Ive got 22's on my Clubsport, not for performance, Ive got a race car for that...

hot as ****

22s are a matter of choice, some get them just for show. Sure the weight of those wheels has an effect on your driving dynamic but that's a choice some will make. I like the look of some with 22s but not all. I am considering 20s or 22s

I love these 22s, my 1st choice:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/22_01.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/21.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/20.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/19.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/18.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/17.jpg<br>
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc35/PhantomSSV/16.jpg

Waste of money?

Different people are in to different things. No reason to be an ass about it because your opinions don't match up with theirs.

That grey Clubsport is hot hot hot!

I feel like I'm going to be disappointed when I get my 20s on after looking at this thread.

That grey Clubsport is hot hot hot!
definately!!

Walkinshaw Performance the king of making holdens/vauxhalls fast seems to think 22's work just fine....

http://www.walkinshawperformance.com.au/wp/2008/aus/news/news.asp?ID=330

Heres the Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA-11m7YFyg

Thanks for the video link, never seen that before... is there anything like that for the G8 specifically? I always love watching videos showing it's performance.

-_NYWyVHcl0

so with that 245/35 R22, does the tire rub the wheel well at all? Because my rim guy was thinking about going with 245/30 R22 or 255/30 R22 and i would much rather have that 35 for a larger side wall.

Hey what type of rims do you have and where could I find a set for my Pontiac G8 GT

Damn those are ugly.
^+1

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+2. All 22's are hideous on a G8 IMO.

Tires are very important to vehicle performance and sidewall flex is important to maintain grip... Too much sidewall flex gives the car a mushy handling feel, too little does not allow the tire to stay in contact with the road resulting in poor cornering and braking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA-11m7YFyg
i got you man.

I dont think a G8 is made for 22s either. add hp to the engine not inches to the rims

:judge: Beat This Tread to the ground POUND POUND POUND.....:judge:

22's would have to be 3 piece and custom made for my ride like my Asanti AF120's sitting in my Garage i'm never going to install them on the G8 I think?

:judge: Beat This Tread to the ground POUND POUND POUND.....:judge:

22's would have to be 3 piece and custom made for my ride like my Asanti AF120's sitting in my Garage i'm never going to install them on the G8 I think?

I think you would be eating a lot less Hemi's with the huge parasitic power loss you would obtain from those gangsta 22s.

22" are just too big for the G8, 20" max. Even Top Gear said ditch the 22" for the 20" and you'll get more performance and a better ride. Everyone has their own taste so do what you want, but don't say lower profile tires are always faster.

Also if you have to modify the body/suspension to fit huge wheels under the car.....it's a sign they don't fit and shouldn't fit. Period!
Glad the majority has their heads on right here.

22's on My 07 WM Caprice, NOW with Pedders Coilovers!
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/attachments/ve-wm/114821d1303118865-badnws-2007-wm-caprice-image354.jpg

22's on My 07 WM Caprice, Soon to have Pedders Coilovers so She shall be even lower!


http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/attachments/ve-wm/101502d1284252689-badnws-2007-wm-caprice-image213.jpg

I think that looks great!! Love the spoiler free look. Also like the front quarter panels!

Fresh!! Looks real good, do you know what offset that you have? oh Yeah whay size tires do you have also?


22's on My 07 WM Caprice, Soon to have Pedders Coilovers so She shall be even lower!


http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/attachments/ve-wm/101502d1284252689-badnws-2007-wm-caprice-image213.jpg

thats insane!

Im in CALI so most HEMI's here are on 22's, they are like stocks, but now the majority of them are dumpping those for 24's so Where I live its all about bigger but tasteful not big as DUNK so on my end with 22's it wont even matter either I still match up well, if you have to run a HEMI with smaller wheels than they have to be faster isn't that car faster than yours then? I think that this Tread it's really about where you live we can't hit the back roads here and hit WOT, Here its All about pulling up at the light next to the next car stare it down Envy it or Hate it and hit IT at the green light. You need The "Look" Plus the I got a Fast @$$ MOTOR Too!! FACTOR where i stay

I think you would be eating a lot less Hemi's with the huge parasitic power loss you would obtain from those gangsta 22s.

Fresh!! Looks real good, do you know what offset that you have? oh Yeah whay size tires do you have also?

Sorry man, not sure what the off set is, Would be handy to find out I guess but wouldnt know where to get it (any suggestions would help)
the tyres are 245/30's - 22's Pirelli P-Zero Nero.

Puts out 329kw :driving:
I will start a thread with the mods and everything I have done when I get home from work.

eliminate the tires... LMAO... ugly

That caprice is SEX!

Trade your G8 for a Chrysler 300 and 22's wil be fine.

Its funny i see some people saying there isnt any tyre yet most people including me running 22s are on the same profile as people with 20s on their cars just doesnt look it.

LOL...buy a truck.

LOL...buy a truck.


lol sure why not :)

Its funny i see some people saying there isnt any tyre yet most people including me running 22s are on the same profile as people with 20s on their cars just doesnt look it.

Same profile, sure, but you're changing the outer diameter of the tire/rim combo. Unless you're tuned for it, your speedo will be off. Not to mention traction control/ABS/stability control will go haywire if your outside the general 3% leeway you get with those aids.

Same profile, sure, but you're changing the outer diameter of the tire/rim combo. Unless you're tuned for it, your speedo will be off. Not to mention traction control/ABS/stability control will go haywire if your outside the general 3% leeway you get with those aids.

Mine hasnt been done yet as goin to be changing diff soon and havent had a problem yet with any of that at all and know few others running 22s with no issues.

and was more gettin at the look of how much tyre in relation to rim :)

Im in CALI so most HEMI's here are on 22's, they are like stocks, but now the majority of them are dumpping those for 24's so Where I live its all about bigger but tasteful not big as DUNK so on my end with 22's it wont even matter either I still match up well, if you have to run a HEMI with smaller wheels than they have to be faster isn't that car faster than yours then? I think that this Tread it's really about where you live we can't hit the back roads here and hit WOT, Here its All about pulling up at the light next to the next car stare it down Envy it or Hate it and hit IT at the green light. You need The "Look" Plus the I got a Fast @$$ MOTOR Too!! FACTOR where i stay

I did factor "where you stay" and it fills the stereotypical californian mold. Worried about what everyone else has and thinks that california is something special. (there's also a 50% drop out rate in the LA school district... odd how terrible the spelling and grammar was in this post!)

I lived in San Diego and Los Angeles for 5 years. That state is disgusting right along with 75% of the population that inhabit it. No offense to the 25% good hearted californians!!! ha ha

Sorry I took my hatred for Cali out on you dude. :thumbsup:

Touchy post... I lived in SF for a year when I first moved to the states and although I lived in just about the worst area in the city (at least in 97-98) I don't find the people any worse than Chicago. I can't speak for the more affluent population but the poor people are the same everywhere you go. That's why I like where I'm at. I don't like how you generalize so many though. While I think the rims don't fit right, beauty is really in the eye of the beholder. If his style is to imitate and try to copy/outdo the guy next to him, more power to him. Not too many ways nowadays to be truly original. All of us are similar to others in one way or another. I want CAI, a tune and VMR wheels. I'm pretty sure plenty of people have that combo already. Doesn't make me an idiot and a copycat, just sort of what I want.

Also, why are so many people down on grammar in online posts? Some are in a hurry, some don't care. As long as you don't speak 133t speak, what the hell does it matter?

PS Okay, I will give you one thing... I went up and down Lombard street, obviously Fresh Off the Boat, and man those guys in their Lambos and Mercedes were giving me snobby looks. Could be because of my fanny pack!

Thats a lot of Rim. Cool if that's what you like. Max 20's for me.

This has to be the most idiotic thing you can do to a car.

Have fun staring wheel envy... I'll be driving.

I guess I dont get it, the look of 22" rims on a G8 but to each his own and people are free to do what they want with their money.

how is this for a nice set of 22 x 9 all round then....i have 245 30 22 front &
255 30 22 rear & tein coilover suspension . don't bother with lowered springs if your serious..your std shocks will just bottom out & be stuffed in no time....some pix of my 22s hope you like these:aus_flag:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03381-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03380-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03379-1.jpg


I would rock those! That is a very clean 22' wheel. Job well done my friend!! Very Nice

I know this forum is kinda old but i got my blue g8 and ive been doin hella work to it. chrome exchange on 19's, mangaflow exhaust, blue halos, 30% tint, E&G classic grille front and back, 10000k hid lights, and the red pontiac emblems changed to blue. all the gray trim in the inside painted the car. now im debating putting 22's on my car. I think it will set it off. Whats the biggest tire you can go with?

file:///Users/detrelshivers/Pictures/IMG_0320.JPG
file:///Users/detrelshivers/Pictures/IMG_0321.JPG

whats the offset, if you havent already said...?

i went with 22x8.5

That is my opinion also.

agreed about the 20's! http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/RVIDDY/2011-08-20_19-18-28_163.jpg
:D

http://http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff308/trel24/IMG_0320.jpg

which wheel? think I'm going with the top left in a 22x8.5
http://http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff308/trel24/IMG_0321.jpg