http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/64338-4/2008+Chevrolet+Caprice+5.JPG

Calling the Pontiac G8 "Too good to waste," GM's new product boss, Bob Lutz, has just announced that the car will live on, rebadged as a Chevrolet Caprice. The news comes as a surprise, considering GM's CEO Fritz Henderson has been unwavering in his insistence that the car would be eliminated from the New GM.

Apparently part of the reason for the move is due to the fact that GM has an internal agreement with Holden, the Australian arm of the company that makes and sells the car as the Commodore in its home market. Currently GM sells the Comodore in markets like the middle east badged as a Chevy.

Lutz did not say if the new body style would be available for the U.S. market by 2010, of if consumers would have to wait until 2011.

So while GM looks to pave a new future full of green cars, it appears as though old-man-Lutz still wants General Motors to build cars for performance enthusiasts. He even said that a high-performance "V" version of the upcoming Cadillac CTS Coupe is still a possibility.

In addition, Lutz even commented that a "V" version of the Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon was not completely out of the question. "I'm sure we'll build at least one," he said.

More: Report: Pontiac G8 to Live On as Chevrolet Caprice (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2009/07/pontiac-g8-to-live-on-as-chevrolet-caprice.html) on AutoGuide.com

that thing is fugly...way to ruin the G8

that thing is fugly...way to ruin the G8

That picture is the Middle East version of another car holden makes (not the Commodore....a stretched version of the Commodore they call something else). So that won't be what we see here.

We SHOULD see something very close to the current G8 body style with a different front end.

EDIT: The 'Statesman" is what that picture above is based off of.

http://www.motorauthority.com/2009-chevrolet-caprice-launches-in-middle-east.html

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2006/10/30/30HoldenNewM_m.jpg

that thing is fugly...way to ruin the G8
Can you say G8 conversion kits? I am glad i kept my stock parts those Caprice owner might just be in the market.

On another note, I am glad to see that someone in GM still has half a brain. Totally killing the G8 in the US market was as we all agree a horrible idea. I think from a marketing standpoint this car will be one of the best selling Chevys made in the last 15-20 years once its all said and done. This also opens up a whole new world of options for them to produce this as a fleet vehicle for law enforcement. I would be willing to bet this option was a major selling point when convencing Fritzy to keep making them.

Thank You, God...I sure hope the G8 crash parts will be in good supply-looks wise that thing just doesn't have it

Actually the statesman looks better than the Commodore in real life IMHO.

Good news for Holden!

Hopefully we'll be able to take advantage of the continued development of aftermarket parts for our G8s now that it will apparently live on.

This would be good news. It all about parts availability...

There are a few reports on this on the web, one of them (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2009/db20090710_847893.htm) said that the G8 outsold the Acura TL and Infinity G37 during the same time period.

On one hand, Pontiac this year sold more of the G8, which starts at $28,000 for a base model up to $40,000 for the super-sporty GXP version, than Acura sold of its high-volume TL luxury sedan and Infiniti sold of its sporty G37. The cars all sell in the same general price range. "They would sell even more of them under the Chevy name," says John Wolkonowicz, an analyst at IHS Global Insight in Boston. "And they would do well in the police-car market, too."

Way to go Maximum Bob, welcome back!

This is great news, although after reading the Business Week article, it's not a sure thing.

I'm not to sure about the Caprice name. I always think of Chevy Caprices as rather mundane sedans or police cars. A better idea is to name it Impala and replace the current FWD car. Take the FWD formally-known-as-Impala and call it Chevrolet Classic and sell it to rental agencies, and other fleet only.

Then not only will you get the enthusiasts to buy it, but also the current clientele which cares more about the room than how it performs.

The Chevy won't look like that... it will look like the VF Commodore (which isn't coming out until next April-ish, so look for the Chevy car to not be here until at least August or September of 2010 as a 2011 model). The VE gets new engines in September of this year, and VF gets some weight reduction (including aluminum body panels) and other styling changes (headlamps), is based on Zeta2 (Camaro), and gets a new interior. The Chevy will be a VF car, not VE like our G8's. It will probably have its own grill, which will likely be shared with the models which Holden exports to GMME...

They (GM) can call it Vega, Corvair ,Chevette or whatever just as long as it keeps coming here. And don't be suprised if it doesn't look much better than the picture of this middle eastern version. I knew it was good news when I heard Lutz was coming back!

Great news, it didn't make sense to kill this great a car.

Lutz just said in a blog on line:

Bob Lutz: The G8 has finally been discovered by a broader percentage of the buying public. The owners are ecstatic about them, many calling it the best sedan they've ever driven. We consider it too good to waste. So we're studying the feasibility of bringing it in as a Caprice for both law enforcement and the public.

So, it is confirmed some of this is being driven by law enforcement...

Join the live blog here:

http://www.gmreinvention.com/

Great

I modify this as I think about it more but, here's my first input:


Parts concerns for current G8 owners have, for the most part, vanished!
Because of the limited production of the Pontiac G8, this truly will add "collector" value to our cars.
For thsose of us that bit on the long-term 0% deals; if they make an even hotter version of the Caprice down the road, with the $5,000 of "buyer protection" we could easily trade into a new car.


So far, this seems like good news!

Great news!

2:37 [Comment From Todd Lassa -- Motor Trend ]
(Follow-up on G8/Caprice question): Will most state and local law enforcement agencies allow purchase of a foreign-built police car?
2:38 Bob Lutz: While the large RWD cars may be made in Australia, they are an integral part of GM, contain US-built engines and transmissions and numerous other components, and are so "American" in character that i don't believe the law enforcement agencies would have any problems with the assembly origin of the vehicle. Plus, they'll love it.


Will they really use LWB?

I suppose it's good to keep the parts supply going for current G8 owners, but I fail to see the logic in keeping the car alive, but killing the performance nature with a malibu style front end and taxicab wheels. Anybody who has a clue about the performance potential would most likely be turned off by the looks. Anybody who actually likes the looks (Buick owners?) would not be interested in the performance. I don't get it. If they keep it, I hope it keeps the sporty nature.

As others have said, THE PICTURE DOESN'T SHOW THE CAR WE'RE GOING TO GET HERE! Look for a concept car at NAIAS in January 2010.

And no, I doubt it will be the LWB Zeta (WM platform) - they are just going to use the "Caprice" name (since Caprice was the high end Chevy sedan, and they don't want to use the "Lumina" name here in the 'States)...

Well, I don't dig making our car a Chevy, and quite frankly I don't buy the VF Commodore thing...but at least parts won't be an issue for now...just keep us unique...

http://www.hsv.com.au/multimedia2007/Wallpapers/E%20Series%20LS3/grange2_1024.jpg

2009 Chevy Lumina SS (Middle East version):

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/12/2008-chevrolet-lumina-ss-24.jpg

This is the Middle East's Holden Commodore, our G8 GXP.

The Chevy won't look like that... it will look like the VF Commodore (which isn't coming out until next April-ish, so look for the Chevy car to not be here until at least August or September of 2010 as a 2011 model). The VE gets new engines in September of this year, and VF gets some weight reduction (including aluminum body panels) and other styling changes (headlamps), is based on Zeta2 (Camaro), and gets a new interior. The Chevy will be a VF car, not VE like our G8's. It will probably have its own grill, which will likely be shared with the models which Holden exports to GMME...


If what you say about VF being in line with Camaro (Zeta2) is true, then that could change a great many things.

VF Commodore is coming. Don't believe me? Read the thread over on LS1.com.au. It is coming, supposedly next April (the new engine lineup will show up in September of this year on VE, as fleet managers have already been briefed).

If you are GM, why would you rush to get a Chevy here when you could piggyback on VF instead? You'd have the same suspension components/layout as the Camaro (easier to service/train service departments), you'd have a lighter, more fuel efficient vehicle, and you'd get a new interior and new looks to separate the car from the G8... what's so hard to believe?

Mark Reuss made a presentation to GMNA about the VF Commodore, and apparently closed the deal. Holden won't get back to two full shifts until next year...

VF Commodore is coming. Don't believe me? Read the thread over on LS1.com.au. It is coming, supposedly next April (the new engine lineup will show up in September of this year on VE, as fleet managers have already been briefed).

If you are GM, why would you rush to get a Chevy here when you could piggyback on VF instead? You'd have the same suspension components/layout as the Camaro (easier to service/train service departments), you'd have a lighter, more fuel efficient vehicle, and you'd get a new interior and new looks to separate the car from the G8... what's so hard to believe?

Mark Reuss made a presentation to GMNA about the VF Commodore, and apparently closed the deal. Holden won't get back to two full shifts until next year...


Would you guess these to come to NA as 2012 models?

Nevermind...read your previous post stating 2011.

This is very good news.

This is very good news.

Even though I don't think we've ever exchanged words on this board, the very first thing I thought when I heard this news was how happy DollarBill would be to hear this.

Well, I don't dig making our car a Chevy, and quite frankly I don't buy the VF Commodore thing...but at least parts won't be an issue for now...just keep us unique...
remeber, it's a Holden anyway.

VF Commodore is coming. Don't believe me? Read the thread over on LS1.com.au. It is coming, supposedly next April (the new engine lineup will show up in September of this year on VE, as fleet managers have already been briefed).

If you are GM, why would you rush to get a Chevy here when you could piggyback on VF instead? You'd have the same suspension components/layout as the Camaro (easier to service/train service departments), you'd have a lighter, more fuel efficient vehicle, and you'd get a new interior and new looks to separate the car from the G8... what's so hard to believe?

Mark Reuss made a presentation to GMNA about the VF Commodore, and apparently closed the deal. Holden won't get back to two full shifts until next year...

I have no doubt that VF is coming.

I just wonder if they spent the time to align both architecture and process with Camaro, that's all.

If they did, then GMNA production at Oshawa becomes a possibility.

I'm not sure that Holden went that far with VF...

I'm not sure that Holden went that far with VF...

Nor am I.

It was scheduled to happen at this MCE, but I have to wonder if they decided not to bother.

I'd love to have that answer.

VF Commodore is coming. Don't believe me? Read the thread over on LS1.com.au. It is coming, supposedly next April (the new engine lineup will show up in September of this year on VE, as fleet managers have already been briefed).

If you are GM, why would you rush to get a Chevy here when you could piggyback on VF instead? You'd have the same suspension components/layout as the Camaro (easier to service/train service departments), you'd have a lighter, more fuel efficient vehicle, and you'd get a new interior and new looks to separate the car from the G8... what's so hard to believe?

Mark Reuss made a presentation to GMNA about the VF Commodore, and apparently closed the deal. Holden won't get back to two full shifts until next year...

Sorry, but that is my point....why bring the Commodore here (which would be awesome) and still incorporate it into the Chevy....makes no sense....and it's still not a Pontiac...I'm not looking for an adversarial post but if it doesn't make sense it doesn't for a reason....and making a bland Chevy, with our guts, and then having the option to purchase a Holden, which would be outstanding would be self defeating....why buy the Chevy product at all?...why not have Holden dealerships then?...

One word: cost.

Other than Corvette and Camaro Chevrolet has nothing that can "bring it" to the competition, now they do.

Well its ok, I guess.

I knew it was coming. Caprice first, then Impala SS. Just like the 91-96. That would be awesome. Glad to see Bob flexing his muscles a bit.

Rob

I, for one, would welcome a long wheelbase version. One of the things that draws me to G8 is the rear seat room. At the last local new auto show, I decided to test anything likely for interior room by first setting the driver's seat where I like it, and then trying to sit behind it. Surprise ! Suburban ? Nope. CTS ? My GTO has more room. DTS ? Keep trying. I'm 6'0, so bigger people have worse problems. It's a horrible feeling to be squished into a space that's a couple of inches too small. Think sixth grade desk !

Even though I don't think we've ever exchanged words on this board, the very first thing I thought when I heard this news was how happy DollarBill would be to hear this.

How touching.

What makes this great for me is that, for most of my life, i've always been a chevy person. So now i can soon proudly head over to the chevrolet dealership to cop me one of these bad boys.

Ill take a Caprice/Impala SS with the works please!:)

It should be a Buick Regal - with Grand National variants. Upscale it with more modern amenities and give it a small and tasteful waterfall grill. Buick desperately needs product in this range to compete with Lexus and Acura.

The picture is the wrong one. It's the aussie caprice which is a bigger car than the G8. It should look like the lumina ss (better name imho too).

Actually the statesman looks better than the Commodore in real life IMHO.

Good news for Holden!

The Statesman looks great but I can't agree with that statement. It looks better than a base model Commodore but not as good as the performance Commodores.

Why bring it back as a Caprice? That model has never been known as a performance car. They should badge it a Chevelle SS and bring back the El Camino using the sport truck variant of the G8.

I still like the LWB a bit better. Goes both ways i guess.

http://www.wholesalesuspension.com.au/pics/gallery/large/holden/black_ve_caprice_003.jpg

This was my fear. They are calling it a Caprice because it is going to be the Government vehicle of the near future, just as they were previously. What better way for the Government to protect the money it has given to GM then to have it create vehicles for it. Unfortunately, it appears that they are going to use our beloved G8 as a Caprice. I see it as my G8 just turned into a Crown Vic.

The Commodore, even if Government agencies embrace them with open arms, will be better than any Crown Victoria, if only for chassis dynamics and safety. I personally don't understand why law enforcement agencies in the US in particular haven't found an alternative to the Crown Vic - a car that is horribly dated and horribly ugly in its current design.

Regards,
Dave

I like this photoshopped picture of the caprice. I hope this works. Saw it on gminsidenews.

VZ , reason US law enforcement uses teh Crown Vic is more of that while not a preformer, they are pretty bullet proof and do the assigned job well. In the US, the highway police departments do use interceptor cars like Mustang GT's that give them the added speed to quickley run up to speed. But they do no good for hauling the perps.

Now what Chevy needs to do is make the G8GT the new Impala SS. This would give Chevy the only true rear wheel drive car good for Nascar. Once Dale Jr or Jeff Gordon promoted it, they would sell out in no time. Make the regular Impala the v6 model. Maybe make the caprice the LWB version. My brother in law who is a cop told me last weekend, he would love to have this car as his crusier for sure. It has room, it has power, and it is quick, very very quick :)

GM already trying to make Lutz a liar and a fat mouth...

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/14/gm-beginning-to-backpedal-on-lutz-g8-turning-caprice-comments/

Lutz: You need us to come up there and smack some people around?

GM already trying to make Lutz a liar and a fat mouth...

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/14/gm-beginning-to-backpedal-on-lutz-g8-turning-caprice-comments/

Lutz: You need us to come up there and smack some people around?

Make sure you hit me up when you go up there!!!

These mu*****as gone make me...

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Unfortunately, it appears that they are going to use our beloved G8 as a Caprice. I see it as my G8 just turned into a Crown Vic.
As long as it’s available with the two V8 engines (6.0; 6.2) I’m ok with it.

Not surprising that GM and Lutz are already backpeddling.

Lutz has been talking out both sides of his mouth since joining GM in 2001, why anyone takes anything he says seriously anymore I can't figure out.

As long as it’s available with the two V8 engines (6.0; 6.2) I’m ok with it.

Why two???

Under chevy, its going to be more of a mainstream vehicle, so one V8, the LS3, is enough.

I like this photoshopped picture of the caprice. I hope this works. Saw it on gminsidenews.

I'd buy one if it looked like this.

It has room, it has power, and it is quick, very very quick :)

Precisely what I was thinking.

I definitely understand where you're coming from with regard to the indestructibility of the Crown Vic, but police departments all over Australia use Commodores (and V6-powered ones at that) as their daily drives, so I think they have just as good a track recording there.

Regards,
Dave

I would guess lutz wants to just re-badge the G8, without changing a thing to keep them coming and to be able to sell them to police forces.

Unfortunately, I'm guessing Chevy product teams are screaming about something that looks so Pontiac with a Chevy badge on it that they are fighting it.

It makes zero sense to bring this over in 2011 as a Chevy. That's forever in a market always moving forward with new models from your competitors coming out.

It makes zero sense to bring this over in 2011 as a Chevy. That's forever in a market always moving forward with new models from your competitors coming out.

Agreed, they might as well forget it. The automotive and political landscape can (and probably will be) vastly different by then.

http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/4e465db50e1f0d62026ec7bdaaac0c45.jpg

I for one am happy, and hope they bring the wagon this time. I imagine/hope they'll probably just make some slight alterations so that the overseas chevy bumper can cover the extra bumper padding the US models require. Maybe they'll throw nav and memory seats in it this time.

I still await the day the LWB version is sold as a Buick. And the day they make a super awesome crossover off Zeta.

And just because it's sold at Chevy doesn't mean it has to be mainstream. The mainstream buyers will still buy Malibus and Impalas and Camcords and ****. It's just giving the Commodore a second chance at life here in the states.

Why not just change the badges from a lion to a bowtie and still call it a Commodore?

Autoblog posted another update today saying that the CEO of GM said the Caprice would be for police/fleet use only.

Which is probably true, remember months ago Holden was trying to sell on the LAPD on buying their police cars? The mockups they made were wearing Pontaic cosmetics, under Chevrolet they would probably be what Holden already exports to the Middle East.

Why not just change the badges from a lion to a bowtie and still call it a Commodore?

That would be too sensible, GM will never do that.

From the WSJ, yesterday:

By JOHN D. STOLL

General Motors Co.'s vice chairman is weighing bringing back the 40-year-old Chevy Caprice nameplate, applying it to the G8 performance sedan from its soon-to-be discontinued Pontiac brand.

Bob Lutz, who last week agreed to stay at GM several months after announcing his retirement and now holds wide latitude over the auto maker's vehicle choices, said Monday that the muscular, rear-wheel-drive Pontiac G8 is "finally being discovered" by consumers.

The $28,000 car, designed and built in Australia, was launched 15 months ago in the U.S., but got off to a slow start amid high gasoline prices and image problems at GM. But this year, sales have jumped. Average monthly sales through June increased 57% to 2,615 from about 1,660 G8s per month in its first nine months of sales.

Mr. Lutz, who had long advocated abandoning the money-losing Saturn and Saab brands, is taking a different tack with the G8, citing nascent demand.

His recommendation could present a difficult choice to GM's new board of directors when it meets in coming weeks for the first time under Chairman Edward E. Whitacre Jr.

While the current G8 is lauded for being an affordable alternative to European performance sedans, GM has insisted that its future success depends on becoming a smaller, leaner auto maker that sells fewer models.

GM's Bob Lutz, at the 2007 debut of the G8, says expanding sales warrant its rebirth as a Chevrolet Caprice.

The G8 has received strong reviews in the automotive press and enjoyed some success previously in Australia, where it is sold as the Holden Caprice.

In an email, Mr. Lutz cited the G8's recent sales momentum in North America as a reason "we like the idea" of keeping the car alive, despite the fact the Pontiac division is currently being phased out.

Under the leading scenario, the G8 would take on the Caprice moniker that adorned Chevrolet models for four decades.

The move would reverse an earlier stance by the auto maker to not continue importing the G8 vehicle to the U.S. from a plant in Adelaide, Australia. GM spokesman Terry Rhadigan said it is "premature" to speculate on whether the G8 will be salvaged and what the car's name might be as a Chevy. He said it could be a matter of months until a final decision is made.

If the Chevrolet Caprice gets the green light, it could allow GM to better compete with other brands offering rear-wheel-sedans, including domestic models such as Chrysler Group LLC's 300 sedan. Some fleet buyers, including police departments, prefer rear-wheel-drive performance vehicles. Sales to these buyers are often lucrative.

Mr. Lutz, 77 years old, who recently took over GM's marketing operations and is part of a three-man group in charge of creative design, said none of the other vehicles from Pontiac's lineup are being considered for a revival.

After emerging from bankruptcy on Friday, the auto maker is working to kill or sell several brands, including Hummer and Pontiac brands in coming months, while keeping Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC and Buick.

The new GM will rely heavily on Chevrolet for future sales and profits. In the near future, executives expect the brand to deliver about 70% of the North American unit's revenue.

Mr. Lutz, who has some 46 years in the auto industry, has pushed to streamline GM in the last decade. Since returning to GM in 2001 after years at Chrysler, Ford and other companies, he sought to jettison money-losing brands while adding features to boost the appeal of existing products.

But he also underestimated the weakness of GM's core brands. Some of his creations, including the Saturn Aura sports sedan, weren't able to attract high enough prices to turn a profit.

More recently, he championed the lithium-ion battery-powered technologies that led to the Chevy Volt.

From a parts standpoint, I don't care what they call it, as long as they call it for supper...

From an emotional perspective, they should replace the Impala with the G8. Base G8, base Impala. GT (or GXP), Impala SS.

http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/4e465db50e1f0d62026ec7bdaaac0c45.jpg

I for one am happy, and hope they bring the wagon this time. I imagine/hope they'll probably just make some slight alterations so that the overseas chevy bumper can cover the extra bumper padding the US models require. Maybe they'll throw nav and memory seats in it this time.

Memory seats would be nice, along with HID's, HUD, and autodimming rearview and side view mirrors. But due to the reason the G8 didnt get nav, what possibly makes you think that this will have nav???

I still await the day the LWB version is sold as a Buick. And the day they make a super awesome crossover off Zeta.

I would love that. A Zeta based crossover could have been the 2010/2011 Torrent if pontiac was still around!

And just because it's sold at Chevy doesn't mean it has to be mainstream. The mainstream buyers will still buy Malibus and Impalas and Camcords and ****. It's just giving the Commodore a second chance at life here in the states.

You are right, but i would prefer to see it become mainstream. I want to see the Chargers and 300s with some real competition, and i wanna see this FWD impala bite the dust.

Contrary to popular theories about a RWD Impala/Lumina/Caprice, i am sure it will sell. It wont come close to malibu sales, but who can say it wont top sales of the current impala? Since we are speaking of a full-size car, and an american made one at that, i dont think the drivetrain doesnt matter much...

That would be too sensible, GM will never do that.

x10

2009 Chevy Lumina SS (Middle East version):

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/12/2008-chevrolet-lumina-ss-24.jpg

This is the Middle East's Holden Commodore, our G8 GXP.

That A pillar is so big that you can hardly see the driver.

The A pillar is a safety hazard as it restricts the sight lines for the driver. Maybe they will find something more to put in the A pillars in addition to airbags.

That A pillar is so big that you can hardly see the driver.

The A pillar is a safety hazard as it restricts the sight lines for the driver. Maybe they will find something more to put in the A pillars in addition to airbags.

That A-pillar is the same as it is on the G8. It's no larger or more unsafe than it is on the G8.

Chevy Impala SS just spotted in Michigan near the GM proving grounds

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/Lumina_SS_front1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/Lumina_SS_Rear.jpg

Now why can't they just replace the Pontiac spears with Bowties and/or stickers ( cheap ! ) and otherwise leave it alone ? Returns to market in weeks/months instead of years...

Chevy still can't keep from adding a boy racer wing on the damn thing :bs:


Do they have 18 year olds designing cars over there?

Now why can't they just replace the Pontiac spears with Bowties and/or stickers ( cheap ! ) and otherwise leave it alone ? Returns to market in weeks/months instead of years...
Why they already make the white car I posted and sell it overseas. It's ready to go with the Chevy grille, it's even a left hand driver.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/chevrolet_lumina.jpg

Chevy Impala SS just spotted in Michigan near the GM proving grounds

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/Lumina_SS_front1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/Lumina_SS_Rear.jpg
Those are very old photos, pre-G8 release and were teaser shots. I remember them very well as I refered to them when picking the color on my G8 before they even hit the shores here.

I have them in my photo library actually, so I know they are the same. Those are the VE's that they brought over to convince the GM board to import it as the G8 they go back that far....

Why two???

Under chevy, its going to be more of a mainstream vehicle, so one V8, the LS3, is enough.

Even better :)

Those are very old photos, pre-G8 release and were teaser shots. I remember them very well as I refered to them when picking the color on my G8 before they even hit the shores here.

I have them in my photo library actually, so I know they are the same. Those are the VE's that they brought over to convince the GM board to import it as the G8 they go back that far....

Well crap!

Those are the VE's that they brought over to convince the GM board to import it as the G8 they go back that far....That isn't a VE, it's a left hand drive car with a Chevy grille.

Chevy Impala SS just spotted in Michigan near the GM proving grounds

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/Lumina_SS_front1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/Lumina_SS_Rear.jpg

Those photos are both almost two years old.

That isn't a VE, it's a left hand drive car with a Chevy grille.

It is a Commodore with left-hand drive and a Chevrolet grille, no different than what Holden already exports.

Chevy still can't keep from adding a boy racer wing on the damn thing :bs:


Do they have 18 year olds designing cars over there?

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/Commodore/SS-V-Series

Chevrolet/GM didn't "add" anything to the car.

Holden makes it that way and exports it as is with a bowtie in place o the lion.. The way they should have done it in the first place.

That isn't a VE, it's a left hand drive car with a Chevy grille.

left hand drive but still a "VE" and picture is from 7/11/2007

The Pontiac G8 to Chevy Caprice is dead again, sort of.

Fritz Henderson told AutoBlog today that it will ONLY be available for fleet sales as a police/protection vehicle. That's it.

So if you want a Zeta car in the future to quote AutoBlog, you'll have to go the Blues Brothers route.

The Pontiac G8 to Chevy Caprice is dead again, sort of.

Fritz Henderson told AutoBlog today that it will ONLY be available for fleet sales as a police/protection vehicle. That's it.

So if you want a Zeta car in the future to quote AutoBlog, you'll have to go the Blues Brothers route.

So let's all go away for a couple of weeks, and let Fritz and MaxBob work it out. Then then hey can hold a joint news conference to let the rest of us know what they are going to do!

Looks like it may be back on again

http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=d4sV0YwPT47B2RMIHmmq6u5LHUBnM

G8 - Commodore

This police ppv is neither.

The Chevy Caprice PPV is simply a rebaged Holden Caprice / Statesman. It is based on the same platform as the Commodore (Zeta) but it has a longer wheelbase and a slightly different exterior design. I believe that such a police package is long overdue for the North American market. Law enforcement agencies who operate Crown Victorias and Imapalas have no idea what they're missing out on if they choose to ignore the Caprice!

Regards,
Dave

I wish they'd just make up their mind. I'm tired of getting teased...

That isnt a statesmen. It's a Caprice SS. Basically the Holden Caprice SS is the Chevy caprice SS. The Statesmen is the Caprice LTZ here. The main difference is the statesmen has a 4 speed auto, and can come with a V6 or L76 V8. and it looks fugly.

The Caprice SS, comes with a 6 speed, a L98 motor making 362 hp, and a much sportier body, a wing, no chrome accents...

I have one as my daily driver : http://www.hemilution.com/2009/07/dynamic-duo.html

I had a 2002 Lumina SS, so a G8, it was cramped, not as... luxurious I guess. The Caprice is a longer wheelbase, and it comes with more features. Power everything, nav, DVD in the rear...

We also have a version called the Caprice Royal which basically has like... 3 or 4 DVD players, and LED rear lights...

All in all it's a much comfyer ride than the G8. Uaually the under 30's buy the Luman (G8) and over 30s opt for the Caprice. Im only 27, but I weigh like 270 lbs so a larger car is comfy.

I think with some modifications to the exterior, the Caprice (under that name) would sell well in the US. It sure as hell sells here.

The Chevy Caprice PPV is simply a rebaged Holden Caprice / Statesman. It is based on the same platform as the Commodore (Zeta) but it has a longer wheelbase and a slightly different exterior design. I believe that such a police package is long overdue for the North American market. Law enforcement agencies who operate Crown Victorias and Imapalas have no idea what they're missing out on if they choose to ignore the Caprice!

Regards,
Dave

Most of the police depts here run lots of Caprice SS and a variation of the HSV Grange (425 hp special edition caprice)

Trust me, you stop when you have a 425 hp 6.2 liter cop on your tail.

. . . The Statesmen is the Caprice LTZ here . . . We also have a version called the Caprice Royal . . . It sure as hell sells here.

Based on my knowledge of the rebadged Holden's, I'm guessing that you are somewhere in the Middle-East. But it would be a good idea to explain where you mean by "here" and who you mean by "we." I'm sure there are plenty of not-as-knowledgable readers confused by your posts. Just trying to help.

I'm sorry. Yes, I am in the middle east. I guess it is confusing as places like the UK and China also have rebadged Holdens.

If you would like to make your voice heard and would like to keep or rebadge the G8GT/GXP then please sign one or both of the below links!

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/savetheG8/
http://www.gopetition.com/online/29534.html