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jmerm32
07-21-2009, 11:05 PM
ive been looking at intakes for my g8 and im thinking about getting a rotofab intake. http://marylandspeed.com/rotofab-cold-air-intake-2008-pontiac-g8-gt-60l-rfb-10105001-p-1603.html

any opinions about that intake or any other intakes?

SmokeyBear911
07-22-2009, 03:47 AM
ive been looking at intakes for my g8 and im thinking about getting a rotofab intake. http://marylandspeed.com/rotofab-cold-air-intake-2008-pontiac-g8-gt-60l-rfb-10105001-p-1603.html

any opinions about that intake or any other intakes?

Nope never heard of it... lol

Try to search... ;)

Volant going in mine...

mongosG8
07-22-2009, 04:59 AM
Volant also!
Smokey! Congrats on the new GXP!!

swimman
07-22-2009, 06:47 AM
Put my Fab on about three weeks ago and love it. Do a search as there has been much discussion regarding this and other intakes.

pic18
07-22-2009, 09:29 AM
I'm happy with mine!

Aaron407
07-22-2009, 10:50 AM
Very happy with mine, the first time I went WOT the new sound sent a chill down my spine.

SmokeyBear911
07-22-2009, 12:01 PM
Volant also!
Smokey! Congrats on the new GXP!!

Thanks...
Where did you get your Volant? Maryland? :)
The OP just has to look and I think there was 3 posts on the first page on Roto's

dline
07-22-2009, 03:57 PM
rotofab good intake, with a quality fit and finish, that doesnt collapse over time....lol

zekester70
07-22-2009, 07:55 PM
Got a Roto-Fab from Maryland Speed within days of buying my G8GT in February 2009. Put it on in less than an hour. It works great and does everything they claim about it. Throttle response is more crisp, sound is great, mileage is marginally better. I love it and so will you.

LBStacks
07-22-2009, 09:44 PM
Does the Roto fab use an oiled filter or a dry one? I Went to the web sit and it did not say.

ChiefP
07-22-2009, 10:37 PM
I went AFE, w/dry filter. Putting it in this week. Its all personal pref and what's on sale.

Mike P
07-23-2009, 01:06 AM
I went AFE, w/dry filter. Putting it in this week. Its all personal pref and what's on sale.


Hey Chief P:


Do you have a link & a part number for the AFE dry filter? My S&B that came with my Roto Fab CAI (which I really like, with Vector's HSRK) is getting dirty & I need to replace it.


Subscribing to thread............


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mongosG8
07-23-2009, 01:21 AM
Smokey,
I actually purchased it through autoanything.com. Doesnt ship until 2 weeks I just gotten the e mail on it. It was 328.00 no shipping no tax.
I think they are out of stock because when I tried to look it up for you just now its saying unavailable??
I almost purchased the Roto Fab but changed my mind last minute. It was shown on Speed Channel on the show Two Guys Garage thats what turned me onto it. The actual video of the show is on the Volant site.

mongosG8
07-23-2009, 01:40 AM
Thanks...
Where did you get your Volant? Maryland? :)
The OP just has to look and I think there was 3 posts on the first page on Roto's

Smokey,

PM Sent!

FB3
07-23-2009, 05:44 AM
This is a link to my post of my Rotofab with a dry Amsoil filter with part number.

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19107

See post #7

dline
07-23-2009, 09:39 AM
Another thing with the rotofab you dont realize or see in pics, that it has a lower snorkle to get air from like the volant

I love my rotofab

mongosG8
07-23-2009, 10:06 AM
dline,
This is why I went with Volant. I didn't realize it had a snorkel. I thought I had done my homework on the Roto Fab. It looked like it was just an open CAI like some of the others.
I did hear very good things about them both so I guess its all preference.

Mike P
07-23-2009, 10:08 AM
This is a link to my post of my Rotofab with a dry Amsoil filter with part number.

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19107

See post #7



Cool man, thanks! :)


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04GT
07-24-2009, 05:19 PM
Just ordered a Rotofab from Maryland Speed last night. :wink2:

Paddle562
07-26-2009, 11:54 AM
Here's my question. After installing a CAI (with or without tune), does that shift some of the low-end torque to the right on the power curve (i.e. to a higher rpm)? I really like the pick-up at low torque and would try to avoid that as much as possible. I'm also debating a Volant or a Rotofab and I think it would come down to engine noise. I'd like to get a little more engine noise out of the bay

zekester70
07-26-2009, 04:35 PM
Paddle,

I noticed no change in low-end torque .... it would be so small a torque change that I don't think anyone could "feel" it. What I can feel is a more crisp throttle response. There is also a great improvement in engine noise or intake "honk." It now lets you know that a V8 is there waiting to go. I'm sold!

TommyGXP
07-26-2009, 05:01 PM
i have the rotofab on my GXP and its great. I also went with the AFE its a dry and reusable filter.

I don't like volant because it has the name in big ugly letters right on the air box cover and its a little to ricy for me lol.

If they made that cover plain i might have considered it. The rotofab fit perfect and the instructions were very detailed.

lonewolfz28
07-26-2009, 05:10 PM
Here's my question. After installing a CAI (with or without tune), does that shift some of the low-end torque to the right on the power curve (i.e. to a higher rpm)? I really like the pick-up at low torque and would try to avoid that as much as possible. I'm also debating a Volant or a Rotofab and I think it would come down to engine noise. I'd like to get a little more engine noise out of the bay

Doesn't appear to. It does gain more up top, but it doesn't lose anything down low in doing so. From this thread: http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15456

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3652&d=1241118435

OBSSSD
07-28-2009, 07:44 AM
After much reading I went with the Roto-fab. Thanks for the dyno gains by RPM that is very informative!

MrSudz
07-28-2009, 08:46 AM
I also just purchased a Roto-fab along with the extreme tune from Livernois. I also ordered the radiator cover to finish up the look.

lonewolfz28
07-28-2009, 10:13 AM
After much reading I went with the Roto-fab. Thanks for the dyno gains by RPM that is very informative!

There are actual three of those charts floating around. One each for the Roto-fab, NEP OTR and Vararam. Kirk from Vector was kind enough to post them up. They were all done with a Vector tune on a G8 GXP. Here they are all in one post:
RotoFab:
http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3652&d=1241118435

New Era OTR:
http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4557&stc=1&d=1248793850

Vararam:
http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4558&stc=1&d=1248793864

OBSSSD
07-28-2009, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the update with all 3 dyno comparisons I had determined the Roto was as good as anything else based upon research but this shows it clearly. Vararam makes garbage and I didn't like the way the New Era exposes the filter when your hood is up - looked cheesy to me. Looks like on the top end the difference is huge :driving:

srod54321
09-08-2009, 04:04 PM
There are actual three of those charts floating around. One each for the Roto-fab, NEP OTR and Vararam. Kirk from Vector was kind enough to post them up. They were all done with a Vector tune on a G8 GXP. Here they are all in one post:
RotoFab:
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New Era OTR:
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Vararam:
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Hey all - here are the gain numbers from the above in a graphical form...

5193
5194

VT_Hokie
09-08-2009, 04:24 PM
Vararam makes garbage

Ummmm....yeah......about that....care to elaborate? Im sure everyone on this board with an aftermarket intake system, about half of which chose Vararam, would love to hear your reasoning for that statement.

While it appears that the Rotofab makes some higher peak numbers, Its nowhere near as consistent throughout the curve.

Also, take into account that the Vararam could potentially make more power at speed due to its "Ram-Air" design.

VT_Hokie
09-08-2009, 04:24 PM
Also, thanks for throwing those hard to read charts into graphical form! very nice work! much appreciated.

srod54321
09-08-2009, 04:36 PM
Also, thanks for throwing those hard to read charts into graphical form! very nice work! much appreciated.
My pleasure. I also added linear trendlines to the graphs, and it was clear that the OTRs came out on top over Rotofab on average. (Vararam and NE were basically equal on average).

a_monty
09-08-2009, 05:07 PM
When comparing the dyno numbers, keep in mind that each of these runs was made with the hood open and air being blown into the engine bay. Most of us don't ride around with the hood open, though I suppose it would make for instant ram-air. :) This will skew the numbers to a certain degree.

I'd also like to see dyno numbers for the tune only, then the tune+CAI. I wonder if most of the HP/TQ gains aren't a result of the tune. Some of the numbers I've seen thrown around for a CAI-only upgrade seem pretty high. I seem to recall one that advertised up to 22HP gain. I'd be surprised if you actually see more than 5-10RWHP from a CAI-only upgrade.

jbradG8GT
09-08-2009, 05:35 PM
Vararam makes garbage

VaraRam is garbage huh...first I hear of that. A couple weeks ago I went to the track with a G8 owner and a guy with a GTO. I have a VaraRam and tune, the other G8 guy has a Roto-fab, tune and axle back exhaust. I ran a 13.44 at 105 mph and he ran a 13.88 at 102 mph. So it's kinda hard to say the VaraRam is garbage when it out performed the Roto-fab. I ran against a GTO that had a CAI, tune, headers, mild cam and stall converter and was pulling on him towards the end of the run. The GTO ran a 13.1 at 104 mph. I contribute that to the Ram Air.

Keep in mind when the VaraRam was tested on the dyno the air speed was below 47.5 mph, so it was acting as a CAI not a Ram Air. If they would have dyno tested it with an air speed above 47.5 mph, the VaraRam would have blown the others away.

OBSSSD
10-14-2009, 10:43 PM
Ummmm....yeah......about that....care to elaborate? Im sure everyone on this board with an aftermarket intake system, about half of which chose Vararam, would love to hear your reasoning for that statement.

While it appears that the Rotofab makes some higher peak numbers, Its nowhere near as consistent throughout the curve.

Also, take into account that the Vararam could potentially make more power at speed due to its "Ram-Air" design.

Do a search for Vararam in title and read the problems for yourself. As for the New Era intake read about the hydro-locked engines that were refused warranty from sucking water into the motor. No thanks for me on that stuff :)

Mike @ New Era
10-15-2009, 11:12 AM
Do a search for Vararam in title and read the problems for yourself. As for the New Era intake read about the hydro-locked engines that were refused warranty from sucking water into the motor. No thanks for me on that stuff :)

As for the water issue, this has been fixed, a revision has been made to the product which eliminates this issue.

bbslurp413
10-15-2009, 11:55 AM
I would get either a vararam or or roto-fab. I have a roto-fab and love it. I would stay away from the New Era. Yes they might have "fixed it" but that does nothing for the dozen or so engines that were ruined and no compensation was given from New Era. I stay far away from companies like that.

GXP4RO
10-15-2009, 10:34 PM
I would get either a vararam or or roto-fab. I have a roto-fab and love it. I would stay away from the New Era. Yes they might have "fixed it" but that does nothing for the dozen or so engines that were ruined and no compensation was given from New Era. I stay far away from companies like that.

Ok so can you tell me what the real deal is with the New Era? Another member on the board offered it to me for free and i was going to try it out. I did plan on getting the Roto-fab but if the NEI is going to cause me problems then i won't install it. He also mentioned that he bought it because they were the only ones at the time with the intake so that means that whatever fix has been put in place by New Era didn't fix the original ones. Any additional feedback on it would help. Thanks

2xR
10-16-2009, 04:07 AM
There are actual three of those charts floating around. One each for the Roto-fab, NEP OTR and Vararam. Kirk from Vector was kind enough to post them up. They were all done with a Vector tune on a G8 GXP. Here they are all in one post:
RotoFab:


Lonewolf, can you elaborate more or point me in the direction of who to ask about the specifics of the dyno runs on this GXP? i.e., was this STD, or SAE; was it a M6 or A6; etc. Thank you...

bbslurp413
10-16-2009, 08:41 AM
Ok so can you tell me what the real deal is with the New Era? Another member on the board offered it to me for free and i was going to try it out. I did plan on getting the Roto-fab but if the NEI is going to cause me problems then i won't install it. He also mentioned that he bought it because they were the only ones at the time with the intake so that means that whatever fix has been put in place by New Era didn't fix the original ones. Any additional feedback on it would help. Thanks


Use the search button, you'll find plenty of info. Search "blown motor" for instance. Basically the hood scoops which are supposed to be non functional let in some water when it continually rains and the car is sitting. This not a problem for the roto-fab due to it's location. It's also not a problem for the GM intake as it was sealed. The new era however allowed water to just sit in the intake and when you turn the engine on, bam the water is sucked into your engine and it causes engine failure. It's happened to close to a dozen or so engines that I've heard of due to the New Era intake.

They have supposedly came out with a cover that stops the water from getting in but I would still be very very nervous every time I turned my car on in the rain. They also did not compensate the 12 or so engines they destroyed. So the people who's engines were destroyed were out the $8k unless insurance picked it up.

lonewolfz28
10-16-2009, 10:19 AM
Lonewolf, can you elaborate more or point me in the direction of who to ask about the specifics of the dyno runs on this GXP? i.e., was this STD, or SAE; was it a M6 or A6; etc. Thank you...

I posted the link to the original thread in Post #23 but here it is again: http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15456

Kirk at Vector Motorsports was the original poster of the info.

2xR
10-16-2009, 11:49 AM
Thanks, I see that now...