I tried to insert one of those dip stick oil changer tubes and it would not go all the way to the oil. It seems to hit a stop. I checked the length against the dip stick and it was a couple of inches above the oil level mark. Anyone had any luck doing this?

Why would you even want to do this? Its not that hard to jack the car up and take the drain plug out. :dunno:

This cant be good.. ?

Why is it when you ask a question, someone always has to reply with something that has no value to the question. I asked for knowledge, if you don't have it , don't show your ignorance by changing the subject. Why someone wants to know may be for a different reason than you can appreciate.

Why is it when you ask a question, someone always has to reply with something that has no value to the question. I asked for knowledge, if you don't have it , don't show your ignorance by changing the subject. Why someone wants to know may be for a different reason than you can appreciate.

That is why I asked why you want to do it. If it is for a reason other then changing your oil you should include that in your post and any other info that can help answer your question.

Stupid noob don't get so butt hurt and being a jerk to people that maybe able to help you is going to get you no where.

I tried to insert one of those dip stick oil changer tubes and it would not go all the way to the oil. It seems to hit a stop. I checked the length against the dip stick and it was a couple of inches above the oil level mark. Anyone had any luck doing this?

I've considered getting one of those oil pumps but one that holds over two gallons is kinda pricey. I was looking at this one ($106). You may need to buy some tubing and bend it to fit. Let me know if you have any success.

Jabsco 17860-0012 Marine Flat Tank Oil Changer System (3.5-Gallon, 12-Volt, 5-Amp)

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Although I have no solution, I am pretty curious also as to why you would want to do this.

Although I have no solution, I am pretty curious also as to why you would want to do this.

How dare you question him and take up his time with this worthless question. :)

lol bunch of haters....

Lmao...

I do not have an answer for your direct question. The good thing is if you can get to the bottom it would be an easy change. For your transmission ............ absolutely then drop the pan and you would be able to check the oil (transmission) pan for filings and any early signs of possible transmission failure. But that's another story........... Have you tried a smaller or more rigged hose? And yes other car companies do use this method.

The people on this form are pretty good and do want to help you so just chill. We all make mistakes and jump to conclusion.

Good luck

Although I have no solution, I am pretty curious also as to why you would want to do this.


:judge: I got it!! :hail: probably because our car takes 9 quarter he might want to do half of oil change :oldfogey:

I read once, and don't flame me if I'm wrong, but this is how they change the oil in Mercedes-Bendz, including all of the AMG models. Just saying.:driving: My point is just because somethings sounds weird, or its something you never heard of doing, does not automatically mean it's a stupid idea.

correct about the mercedes benz. I just read it also. They use a pump through the dip stick tube. BUT their oil filter is also on the top of the engine, so you never ever have to go under the car.

I read once, and don't flame me if I'm wrong, but this is how they change the oil in Mercedes-Bendz, including all of the AMG models. Just saying.:driving: My point is just because somethings sounds weird, or its something you never heard of doing, does not automatically mean it's a stupid idea.


I heard that too :)

I tried to insert one of those dip stick oil changer tubes and it would not go all the way to the oil. It seems to hit a stop. I checked the length against the dip stick and it was a couple of inches above the oil level mark. Anyone had any luck doing this?

No, oil extractors won't work on the LY7.

Wouldn't work on the LS1, either.

Extraction works great on the Ecotec in the Solstice, though.

Stupid noob don't get so butt hurt and being a jerk to people that maybe able to help you is going to get you no where.

Classy.

Clearly, you have never used an oil extractor. On engines that permit extraction, my experience has been that extraction will always take more oil from an engine than a conventional drain.

On both of my Jaguars, extraction yields almost one extra quart beyond what a conventional drain yields, and is far more convenient.

Extractors are also extremely convenient for transmissions, power steering reservoirs, rad overflow tanks, pretty much anything that holds non corrosive fluid.

I've considered getting one of those oil pumps but one that holds over two gallons is kinda pricey.

You don't need a two gallon extractor. When it gets full, just stop the process, drain, and restart.

I have a 6 quart extractor, but I can get 11 qts out my Xj12, and 7 out of my Xj8. I just have to interrupt the process.

My gut is that the L76 and LS3 probably won't work with an extractor. The only GM engine I've had that permitted extraction is the 2.4 Ecotec in the Solstice - it works like a champ on that one.

It might work on the 4.3 V6 - I haven't tried it on that one.

Classy.

Clearly, you have never used an oil extractor. On engines that permit extraction, my experience has been that extraction will always take more oil from an engine than a conventional drain.

On both of my Jaguars, extraction yields almost one extra quart beyond what a conventional drain yields, and is far more convenient.

Extractors are also extremely convenient for transmissions, power steering reservoirs, rad overflow tanks, pretty much anything that holds non corrosive fluid.

I found my reply to be very classy so STFU noob number 2. :wink2: Learn to use the multi-quote function instead of making three posts in a row.

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correct about the mercedes benz. I just read it also. They use a pump through the dip stick tube. BUT their oil filter is also on the top of the engine, so you never ever have to go under the car.

The LY7 has the oil filter access on the top of the engine. (This IS the V6 forum, right?)
The motor has a oil level sensor mounted on the side of the pan that might be what is blocking the tube. Just wondering WB5HQH perhaps you could contact a dealer. For some odd reason there may be someone there who may know what is getting in the way. :slap: If there is some way to make this work I would definitely be buying one.

Bluejacket you are my hero. LOL, I guess he could be doing it for oil analysis. Take about 1 or 2 ounces or however much out, and send it for sample? I would like to know why too.

Bluejacket you are my hero. LOL, I guess he could be doing it for oil analysis. Take about 1 or 2 ounces or however much out, and send it for sample? I would like to know why too.

Just having fun, but some people are wound to tight.

Just having fun, but some people are wound to tight.
So you won't mind if I edit out your remark calling the OP a stupid noob and a jerk?

Discouraging new members from posting here helps no one.

And BTW, "noob number 2" has the same join date as you. :wink2:

So you won't mind if I edit out your remark calling the OP a stupid noob and a jerk?

Discouraging new members from posting here helps no one.

And BTW, "noob number 2" has the same join date as you. :wink2:

Where did I ever discourage someone from posting? I believe the OP was the one discouraging me from asking him a simple question and he was a jerk in his reply to me.

And way to get a joke with the noob number 2 thing I guess a :wink2: was not enough for you.

cant we all get along? LOL

cant we all get along? LOL

Whats the fun it that? :)

By removing the oil through the dipstick tube, you don't know you're getting it all out. Maybe the hose didn't reach the bottom of the pan, or you pushed in to far and it turned upward. And since you can't see inside the pan you really don't know for sure. Besides all the particles that don't get picked up by the oil pump pickup collect at the bottom of the pan, and when you remove the drain plug it flushes all that crap out. I feel much safer draining the oil the conventional way, but it's your car so you do what you want.

I don't think our engine (L76) are design to drain via the dipstick. If you guys ever dealt with marine engines. They are designed or most the one I dealt with are. The dipstick is a straight shot to the oil pain and the tube is pretty big compare to most engine.

I'm glad the OP asked this question because I thought of getting one and using it on my G8 and other vehicles. If you guys notice a lot of the mid to higher end cars are switching to these methods because they all the plastic underneath the vehicle's. Mercedes and BMW still have oil drain plugs but the prefer method is to pull the oil via the dipstick. Cheaper than getting a lift and put the car on the rack.

So let me ask you guys these. How do you change the oil on a vehicle that doesn't have a oil pan but just a cover?

You have to change the filter from underneath on the V8, so you might as well just open the drain plug while you're under there. Most cars have an oil pan, unless it has a dry sump system.

Another thread hijacked. :pir_flag: I swear the V8 forum must be really boring. :wall:

Agreed.

V6 forum is....... V6.

You don't need a V6 to extract the oil through the dipstick, so this pertains to any car.
And no the V8 forums aren't boring, this thread appeared in today's posts so that's why I posted here.

But this is the V6 forum and the V6 DOES have the oil filter on top, so no reason to climb underneath if you can remove the oil thru the dipstick.

That's probably why he's asking the questions.

So if your going to come in the V6 forum and discuss the issues, at least have some idea of how the V6 is layed out. Trying to discuss V6 issues and relate them to the V8 dosen't always work. ;)

I know where the oil filter is on the V6, I have had many V6 powered GM cars and I make custom parts for them. My answer was directed to StockG8 who has a V8.

The many V6's you had in your Grand Prix ARE NOT the same V6 that is in the G8. Completely different animal. But I think we've hashed that out before . ;)

That's correct but the oil filter still mounts the same way.

Sorry but they don't. The GP 3.8 filter hangs out the side of the block and is a normal looking filter like the V8 has.

The G8 V6 filter is a cartridge that mounts on top of the engine,above the exhaust manifold, once you remove the alumnium housing that the cartridge goes into, same as on the caddy. ;)

That's correct but the oil filter still mounts the same way.
DR we have the freakin LY7 and the filter access is on the top as chief said. Are you totally deaf?:judge:

DR we have the freakin LY7 and the filter access is on the top as chief said. Are you totally deaf?:judge:

He is just a V6 hater. :)

I like pie.

Charles you know I don't hate the SUPERCHARGED V6. ;)

Charles you know I don't hate the SUPERCHARGED V6. ;)

But I bet you do hate under powered NA ones. :wink2:











***and since you guys don't get jokes that was a joke:judge:***

I think some people here need to sit down and have some beers with the President!

Kek.

I think some people here need to sit down and have some beers with the President!


I LOL'd and I absolutely love that.

No matter how much I suck on the dip stick tube I can't get all the oil out.
WTF am I doing wrong? :confused:

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I really like how a thread about a simple oil question turned into a game of toss-the-insult, and then into a V-6 VS. V-8 battle!!!

To the OP, I hope all of these insults being tossed back and forth answered your question.:wink2:

:ibtl:

Insults be damned, I like the beer suggestion.:drink:

Oh, yeah, look at the little canister next to the dipstick. Wonder what that is????

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A mini turbo????? lol

A mini turbo????? lol

No, it's a beer can holder!!!!! But only if you want warm beer.:bs:

Naw, I prefer mine nice and cold and dark. Or a good wheat will do as well.

But I bet you do hate under powered NA ones. :wink2:



Naw, just mine. ;)