Hey Guys,

Picked up my car (Black GT) about 2 weeks ago and been too busy enjoying it (already have over 1000 miles on it) to notice anything 'wrong' till now or sign up here ;)

Wondering if it's just me or something quirky with the car:
I'm seriously thinking they put in the wrong floormats. The holes don't line up with the pegs in the floor, I can only snap in one, and if I snap in both there's a big bulge in the middle of the mat - like the mat is just too big? (can take some pictures if that's not clear enough) Anyone else have this issue? I'm going in for my 1k mile oil change here pretty soon so i'm hoping to have the dealership fix/replace them (but so far they act 'confused' and like that must be normal)

Of course I also got stuck with the stupid front license place bracket (attached with the 3 rivets). I read the other license plate frame thread, but haven't yet found out how to 'safely' take this monstrosity off.. Should I just get the drill out and drill out the rivets?

Thanks!

No problems with the floor mats in mine. Both snaps work well and there's no bulge.

No problems with the floor mats in mine. Both snaps work well and there's no bulge.

Ditto

Mine don't fit the pins. I've got an Onyx leather interior. Going to check with the dealer and see if there are replacements available. Would like to find out if it's the carpet pins or the mat holes that are causing the problem. Hope it's not the carpet...

I'll mearure the center to center distance of the carpet pins and post it, maybe we can figure out where the problem is.

I have the same problem with mine. Have problems with my GTO mats "attaching" to the carpet as well. Kind of annoying...but the cars are so much fun to drive that I tend to forget about it.

I just went out and measured the passenger side.

Center to Center Mat: 11 3/4 inches
Center to Center Pegs on Floor: 11 3/8 inches

As you can tell from the attached pics that just doesn't line up..
right now I usually just snap one in place and that's it.. but it's starting to bug me

Ok, now I gotta go look! LOL
Wasn't bothering me though.

Mine is the same way it has been bugging me since the day I bought the car!!

I'm in the same boat. They were attached with no bulge when I bought it. In the course of getting in and out over a week I knocked the mat off the pegs and couldn't get it reattached without a bulge. Now I keep one peg attached to help keep it from floating around too much and don't worry about it.:wink2:

I started a thread about this a while ago, and I am still having that same problem. Its annoying but easy to forget about/ignore.

LOL
Made in China!
The drivers side is perfect. The right side wasn't snapped in at all, and of course when I checked it, they were off. I snapped 'em in anyway, I don't drive on that side. LOL
BTW, with regards to China, I ordered new badging for the back. G8 and GT. They were made in China. However, they sent 2 G8's because one pkg was wrong. So..re-order!

I got the measurments from mine...

Driver Side pins:11", Mats:11.25"
Pass Side pins:11.50", Mats:11.75"

These are close to SteveXKR's measurments...I'd say its the Chinese mats. Not a big thing, just anoying having to readjust them.

Guys, guys, guys, you go back to the dealer and make them make it right! If there are that many that aren't correct, its an overall production problem, sounds like with the supplier, that needs to be fixed on all the cars. If you don't all take 'em back for correction, the problem continues on. Its that numbers game thing!:wink2:

I just noticed this weekend that the passenger side floor mat in mine does the same. I'm going to the dealer about it.

Same issue here. Is it a hole spacing issue within the floor mats or the peg spacing on the carpet of the car?

Much easier to fix the mats. :)

The hump seems to have lessen a bit, since I put the mats down on the pegs. The carpet might just need stretching out a bit, as carpet installers do a carpet install in a home. Just my best guest though, maybe a big phone book laid on the mat overnight might help it along.

Mine fit perfectly, thank you very much. :angel:

:iagree:

Silly me for thinking the dealership would be able to deal with this or
be able to NOT BREAK anything while just looking at something as simple as a floor mat issue...

I would think they would just try a few different set of mats (they have 3 g8's on their lot right now.. ) since based on what i've seen they're all differently spaced.

No apparently that would be too logical.. instead they feel the need
to recarpet the entire floor but based on them breaking part of my chair surround just to take a look at the issue i don' t have much faith in them actually doing the work... (see attached pics - cellphone , sorry about the bad quality) :cursin:

So now that'll have to be a day without the car for them to fix the damage they did + putting in new carpet..

Am I crazy or does this seem ridiculous to anyone else???

Silly me for thinking the dealership would be able to deal with this or
be able to NOT BREAK anything while just looking at something as simple as a floor mat issue...

I would think they would just try a few different set of mats (they have 3 g8's on their lot right now.. ) since based on what i've seen they're all differently spaced.

No apparently that would be too logical.. instead they feel the need
to recarpet the entire floor but based on them breaking part of my chair surround just to take a look at the issue i don' t have much faith in them actually doing the work... (see attached pics - cellphone , sorry about the bad quality) :cursin:

So now that'll have to be a day without the car for them to fix the damage they did + putting in new carpet..

Am I crazy or does this seem ridiculous to anyone else???
Wow! Looks like they used a grenade!

I checked my car and the mats fit correctly.

I have the same problem with my floor mats both sides have a bulge if installed on the pins I noticed this the first day I had it 3-8-08 and my dealer tried the mats from the other car they had (and they only had 1) it was worse then the GM rep told me they would have to wait and see if anyone else had the same problem before they would think about fixing it.
Maybe with this many having the problem they might come up with a fix.:judge:

Only problem I found with my floor mats is that they put the rears on the wrongs side. Easy fix though.

mac

same with me,slight bulge...its like they are off by 3/8"

My front ones fit fine. The rear ones were causing me a bit of trouble though....until I realized that one was upside down (padding side up) and they were both on the wrong side. :slap:

Silly me for thinking the dealership would be able to deal with this or
be able to NOT BREAK anything while just looking at something as simple as a floor mat issue...

I would think they would just try a few different set of mats (they have 3 g8's on their lot right now.. ) since based on what i've seen they're all differently spaced.

No apparently that would be too logical.. instead they feel the need
to recarpet the entire floor but based on them breaking part of my chair surround just to take a look at the issue i don' t have much faith in them actually doing the work... (see attached pics - cellphone , sorry about the bad quality) :cursin:

So now that'll have to be a day without the car for them to fix the damage they did + putting in new carpet..

Am I crazy or does this seem ridiculous to anyone else???

Rediculous, you fix the mats relative to the female receptacle positioning not the carpet.....unless the carpet is inconsistent relative to the location of the male pins, then you fix the carpet. This is something the manufacturer would address/fix, not the dealership. A phone call to GM direct would start the ball rolling. If the problem is inconsistency with the carpet male pins location, then the floormat aftermarket will have equal difficulty in using the female receptacle since they would be in different locations on every G8.

Mine are a tad off but not enough to worry about. The lump is minimal.

same with me,slight bulge...its like they are off by 3/8"

+1 :whine:

Rediculous, you fix the mats relative to the female receptacle positioning not the carpet.....unless the carpet is inconsistent relative to the location of the male pins, then you fix the carpet. This is something the manufacturer would address/fix, not the dealership. A phone call to GM direct would start the ball rolling. If the problem is inconsistency with the carpet male pins location, then the floormat aftermarket will have equal difficulty in using the female receptacle since they would be in different locations on every G8.

Here's an even simpler solution: cut th efriggin tabs off teh damned floor. If the mats move, so what. Think of it as retro. Why in my day (even up through 2003) we didn't have no stinkin' hooks on our floor mats>>>>and we liked it! Try a set of MacNeil Weathertech rubber mats instead - problem solved.

If you allow the mat to creep up under the accel pedal and ruin your day you need to go back to driving school. :wink2: That's why JoAnn Fabric sells Velcro.

Seriously, if the mats are not interchangable between vehicles then production DOES need to know.

I have a Custom Floormat design team investigating the issue with the factory carpet/floormats relative to the placement of the tabs/male and the grommets/female. On the driver's side, we have found the measurement on the carpet to be 11" between center of tabs/male. We have also found several sets of factory (OEM) floormats with a measurement of 11 1/4" between center of the grommets/female. Therefore, creating a slight bluge in the rear center of the driver's floormat. This also makes it difficult for the mat to remain properly seated in the attached position. It would be helpful for other owners to measure both the drivers and passengers carpet tabs/male and relay the measurement from center of post to center of post. If we can confirm consistency with carpet tab placement, then we will have a perfectly fitting custom floormat application. Take your time and measure carefully, accurate data is needed here. Thanks....

Bigg Dogg

I have a Custom Floormat design team investigating the issue with the factory carpet/floormats relative to the placement of the tabs/male and the grommets/female. On the driver's side, we have found the measurement on the carpet to be 11" between center of tabs/male. We have also found several sets of factory (OEM) floormats with a measurement of 11 1/4" between center of the grommets/female. Therefore, creating a slight bluge in the rear center of the driver's floormat. This also makes it difficult for the mat to remain properly seated in the attached position. It would be helpful for other owners to measure both the drivers and passengers carpet tabs/male and relay the measurement from center of post to center of post. If we can confirm consistency with carpet tab placement, then we will have a perfectly fitting custom floormat application. Take your time and measure carefully, accurate data is needed here. Thanks....

Bigg DoggBigg:

Isn't it harder for the common person to measure center to center as there is no reference point to measure to, if you are just getting how much it is off, you might be better to measure the inside or outside dim, if accuracy is your goal, I suggest you pick an easier measurement and post a drawing or photo of where to measure to.

Bigg:

Isn't it harder for the common person to measure center to center as there is no reference point to measure to, if you are just getting how much it is off, you might be better to measure the inside or outside dim, if accuracy is your goal, I suggest you pick an easier measurement and post a drawing or photo of where to measure to.

Measure this....

Driver's Side
1 - distance from left edge floor pan to left side male tab in carpet
2 - distance between center of male tabs in carpet
3 - floormat, distance between center of female/grommetts

Passenger's Side
1 - distance from right edge floor pan to right side male tab in carpet
2 - distance between center of male tabs in carpet
3 - floormat, distance between center of female/grommetts

Let's have some responses by tonight so we may have the custom floormats ready to go by next week. I did notify GM about the problem and they say that it may fall into the acceptable category. Sad if that is the case, hoping for better. No worries though for those individuals that want to move beyond the OEM mats for appearance/quality upgrade.

Bigg Dogg

No need for further input. Problem solved. We looked at a dozen Pontiac G8 vehicles. Made measurements and found them to be consistent both in carpet tab/male positioning and in OEM floormat grommet/female positioning. There was/is a slight error in the specifications that were used for the OEM floormats. The position of the grommets/female on the OEM floormats is too wide between the two on the driver's side mat. The passenger's side mat needs very slight adjustment as well. We have all the correct floormat specifications nailed down and will be producing our Pontiac G8 and GT Custom fitted floormats starting on Monday morning, 2 June 08. Our custom floormats will also have the OEM Pontiac G8 grommets installed in both front floormats. We are the only company currently doing this for the GM vehicles. FYI, a similar tab/grommet system is used on the 2004-present Cadillac XLR / XLR-V and the 2005-present Chevrolet Corvette and we have been supplying custom embroidered floormats for those vehicles for several years. We hope to have pictures ready by next weekend or shortly thereafter. At which time we will become a supporting vendor and let the purchasing begin.

Bigg Dogg

Awesome! Look forward to some nicer mats!

Took it into the dealership today for this (and some other) issue(s).
Apparently some 'bulletin' went out today to all dealerships NOT to replace the floor carpeting but 'do something else'... sorry I don't have more details, but whatever they did seems to have work since now the mats fit perfectly.