Ridiculous that this awesome car doesn't come with navigation. I'll be shopping for a new car this summer (coming from an Infiniti G35x) and no nav is a dealbreaker. Does anyone know of any aftermarket dvd-based nav solutions available yet for this car? Thanks

Ridiculous that this awesome car doesn't come with navigation. I'll be shopping for a new car this summer (coming from an Infiniti G35x) and no nav is a dealbreaker. Does anyone know of any aftermarket dvd-based nav solutions available yet for this car? Thanks

Nav is a deal breaker on the car? Are you serious? :damnyou:

As of right now there is no options for Nav unless you want to install a portable type unit. I suppose you could install a kenwood 7100 type but you will lose the ability to see what you a/c is doing.

I agree a nav option would be great. Personally I think all of the OEM navs are POS. I'd much rather run a kenwood unit than pay for OEM nav. I am sure after a while someone will come out with something.

I have a nav in my TrailBalzer and love it, however bought a Tom-Tom nav system at Office Depot. came with battery and cig. adapter, its great especially knowing its portable.

I have a Garmin, cost me <$300. Has everything a $2000 integrated system has and, oh yeah, it works in my car, my wife's car, my daughter's car, friend's car, when walking and will even work in your car!

Yeah, not having it built in really sucks!

I have a Garmin, cost me <$300. Has everything a $2000 integrated system has and, oh yeah, it works in my car, my wife's car, my daughter's car, friend's car, when walking and will even work in your car!

Yeah, not having it built in really sucks!

I have a Magellan that I use in the car, Envoy and on my Snowmobile in the woods. I agree it kills me not having it built into the car. I can't seem to get to work and back home every day either. Damn.:nuts:

I have a Garmin, cost me <$300. Has everything a $2000 integrated system has and, oh yeah, it works in my car, my wife's car, my daughter's car, friend's car, when walking and will even work in your car!

Yeah, not having it built in really sucks!

What happens with your Garmin when you do not have a GPS signal for 40 miles?

Chip

Not having Navigation is a deal breaker?? Sorry, I'm sure the dealership will really miss the sale.

Seriously... Go to wal-mart and pay $200-300 for a TomTom, Magellan, ect. They work better than factory crap and you can easily update it, or change vehicles very quickly should you be going on a trip, whatever and wind up riding with a friend...


I swear... People would complain about a goose laying a golden egg because it wasn't 24K..... :damnyou:

What happens with your Garmin when you do not have a GPS signal for 40 miles?

Chip

Granted I don't have Garmin, but never had that problem with my Magellan.

I am just finishing up having an in-dash DVD/Navigation unit installed up in the slot where the ugly LED battery meter and oil pressure meter is on the top of the dash. My pro installer is disconnecting the LED unit and sliding the in-dash unit in it's place. A nice custom formed cap piece will be installed so that it looks like it is part of the original car. The in dash DVD/Navigation unit is a motorized 7" full color touch screen. These type of units are available from all of the big names like Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer. I went with a lesser known, but great imported brand called Valor Electronics. It also comes with built in Bluetooth, XM Radio, has an IPod adaptor and is a DVD player. All for $749 shipped from the biggest online EBAY electonics dealer in the US. Comes with 2 year replacement coverage. I will post pictures when install is complete. I was able to fill all of my needs for the Bluetooth, XM radio and Navigation for a little more than you pay for a $400-500 nice portable NAV unit. Plus it is a DVD player. Just an option that some others might be interested in looking at.

thats is true they should of offered the navigation but i guess if it is that important just go portable

WHY WHY WHY do people pay $2,000. for In Dash Nav???? I bought a Garmin 660 from Best Buy on "black Friday" for $399. + TX. This thing is far better than my buddy's BMW GPS w/"I-Drive". That system is the REAL deal breaker, not to mention his 535 cost him $62,000. big ones! I mounted my Garmin to block those idiot bar gauges. Works great - less filling- even tells me when there's traffic delays ahead.

RRM

I swear... People would complain about a goose laying a golden egg because it wasn't 24K..... :damnyou:

I don't understand it either.

I am just finishing up having an in-dash DVD/Navigation unit installed up in the slot where the ugly LED battery meter and oil pressure meter is on the top of the dash. My pro installer is disconnecting the LED unit and sliding the in-dash unit in it's place. A nice custom formed cap piece will be installed so that it looks like it is part of the original car. The in dash DVD/Navigation unit is a motorized 7" full color touch screen. These type of units are available from all of the big names like Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer. I went with a lesser known, but great imported brand called Valor Electronics. It also comes with built in Bluetooth, XM Radio, has an IPod adaptor and is a DVD player. All for $749 shipped from the biggest online EBAY electonics dealer in the US. Comes with 2 year replacement coverage. I will post pictures when install is complete. I was able to fill all of my needs for the Bluetooth, XM radio and Navigation for a little more than you pay for a $400-500 nice portable NAV unit. Plus it is a DVD player. Just an option that some others might be interested in looking at.Good luck - looking forward to hearing/seeing how it goes.

If a $16k Scion can have built-in navigation, so should a $30k sedan. Ps. people pay extra for built-in nav because 1) it is a clean, classy, professional look, 2) it is covered by a warranty. Wal-Mart addons bolted onto the vent openings look cheap and tacky. Is Nav mandatory, no. But neither is a moonroof, heated seats, power door locks/windows or a 360 horsepower V8 engine that gets 10 mpg when driven hard. Why don't people all just drive Toyota Camrys?

What happens with your Garmin when you do not have a GPS signal for 40 miles?

Chip

I come out of the end of the long tunnel and get the signal back.

They all use the same GPS Satelites.

I am just finishing up having an in-dash DVD/Navigation unit installed up in the slot where the ugly LED battery meter and oil pressure meter is on the top of the dash. My pro installer is disconnecting the LED unit and sliding the in-dash unit in it's place. A nice custom formed cap piece will be installed so that it looks like it is part of the original car. The in dash DVD/Navigation unit is a motorized 7" full color touch screen. These type of units are available from all of the big names like Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer. I went with a lesser known, but great imported brand called Valor Electronics. It also comes with built in Bluetooth, XM Radio, has an IPod adaptor and is a DVD player. All for $749 shipped from the biggest online EBAY electonics dealer in the US. Comes with 2 year replacement coverage. I will post pictures when install is complete. I was able to fill all of my needs for the Bluetooth, XM radio and Navigation for a little more than you pay for a $400-500 nice portable NAV unit. Plus it is a DVD player. Just an option that some others might be interested in looking at.

Cool, now you can watch movies on a 7" screen while your driving. Yikes!

Cool, now you can watch movies on a 7" screen while your driving. Yikes!

Good one. No can't get DVD to operate while in drive mode. The Navigation works fine while driving. But I might be able to save up enough money to pay for the set up. Instead of taking the girlfriend to the movies and spending $35-$40 for a movie, pop and popcorn. I can buy a slushy at Circle K, take a microwave bag of popcorn and park at the state park and watch Blade III. Should save $30 x 24 (twice a month to the movie theater) = $720

There are so many people obsessed over the Nav and wanting Bluetooth and or XM radio. I wanted Nav also and Bluetooth. But was more concerned about a great looking, great handling, big HP sedan that I didn't have to pay $45,000-$50,000 for. You can add $2500 worth of bolt ons and my nav/bluetooth/DVD player and still only be into the car $35,000. For a 400+HP,BMW handling,awesome looking sports sedan. You can't ask for much more.

Ridiculous that this awesome car doesn't come with navigation. I'll be shopping for a new car this summer (coming from an Infiniti G35x) and no nav is a dealbreaker.


A dealbreaker? You're kidding? Right?

From the Eagles album 'The Very Best of the Eagles' : Get Over It

There are so many people obsessed over the Nav and wanting Bluetooth and or XM radio. I wanted Nav also and Bluetooth. But was more concerned about a great looking, great handling, big HP sedan that I didn't have to pay $45,000-$50,000 for. You can add $2500 worth of bolt ons and my nav/bluetooth/DVD player and still only be into the car $35,000. For a 400+HP,BMW handling,awesome looking sports sedan. You can't ask for much more.

:iagree:

I figure I can add my own Sirius, Navigation (if I really want it but dont because there is this new invention called my wife reading a map :p) and any other goodies GM didn't put on.

Ridiculous that this awesome car doesn't come with navigation. I'll be shopping for a new car this summer (coming from an Infiniti G35x) and no nav is a dealbreaker.

Easy buddy, we bought these cars as the grown-up sport (& family) sedans that they are - great handling, ample torque and lots of room. The package is not yet perfect, but no-nav dealbreaker? Come on, now. :nono:

I've got a Garmin nuvi 650 that does a lot more than any factory system. And of course there's Onstar...

Easy buddy, we bought these cars as the grown-up sport (& family) sedans that they are - great handling, ample torque and lots of room. The package is not yet perfect...True enough...I do remember my '95 Camaro 6spd Z28 not having Nav and being a blast to drive. And I haven't driven the G8 GT yet, so I'll shut up now. But people, we are spoiled with options nowadays (seat COOLERS anyone), and I don't think these monster-engined rwd cars will be around much longer. Happy motoring.

Nav system is a deal breaker? Really? Some people are just impossible to please.

No can't get DVD to operate while in drive mode.

Oh yes you can :D Try lifting up the Ebrake one click. There are also devices to trick your head unit so it will play all the time. I know you can get the DVD in Cadlilacs so you can play them all day long while driving.

http://www.rocoto.com/siennamods/dvd_mod.html
http://www.rocoto.com/siennamods/nav_mod.html

Oh yes you can :D Try lifting up the Ebrake one click. There are also devices to trick your head unit so it will play all the time. I know you can get the DVD in Cadlilacs so you can play them all day long while driving.

http://www.rocoto.com/siennamods/dvd_mod.html
http://www.rocoto.com/siennamods/nav_mod.html

Yup. On the unit in my truck, I just grounded the wire that was supposed to go to the parking brake. So now it plays anytime. I don't think I have ever used the DVD player though. LOL

Mapquest is free and Rand-McNally does a pretty good job. I travel all the time with my job and haven't gotten lost (yet). Besides, if I miss an exit, that's just that much more time behind the wheel. :)

Mapquest is free and Rand-McNally does a pretty good job. I travel all the time with my job and haven't gotten lost (yet). Besides, if I miss an exit, that's just that much more time behind the wheel. :)

Amen. Boy what a nation of crybabies we are becoming if people can't live without spending $2K to have a computer chip tell them what to do. Think for yourselves people.

Amen. Boy what a nation of crybabies we are becoming if people can't live without spending $2K to have a computer chip tell them what to do. Think for yourselves people.

I agree, I'm going to need that 2k for gas :gears:

buy one from CC if you have to have it.

Nav system is a deal breaker? Really? Some people are just impossible to please.

It was for me on my Audi. I think if you dont buy cars often then you should get nav because I think its gonna be standard in all cars in about 2 years.

Amen. Boy what a nation of crybabies we are becoming if people can't live without spending $2K to have a computer chip tell them what to do. Think for yourselves people.

:iagree:

I have my own nav unit. I moved from Calif to the mid west. I didn't need it in Calif where I always knew where North is. (San Gabriel mountains). Out here you can watch your dog run away for 2 days. The interstates are only 2 lanes in most cases. When there a crash, it stops traffic, and as it usually does, you get sent off in some direction. I'm glad I have my nav for those times. It also helps that I'm at that age where I don't have to justify myself to anyone, especially the internet. LOL

I come out of the end of the long tunnel and get the signal back.

They all use the same GPS Satelites.

As long as they can see enough of the satellites. There is a stretch that I travel several times per year that the mountains block enough of the satellites that the Nav does not get a lock (hence my 40 mile reference above). If my integrated navs (both of our current vehicles) did not have dead reckoning (including VSS connection to the vehicle), the nav would be useless. That is one advantage that an integrated Nav will have over the Garmins and Tom-Toms.

Chip

I'm trying to look at no nav as a positive.

Get an aftermarket nav/xm/dvd head unit for less...

Get an aftermarket nav/xm/dvd head unit for less...

IF someone comes out with one that can handle the HVAC function as well that is...

As long as they can see enough of the satellites. There is a stretch that I travel several times per year that the mountains block enough of the satellites that the Nav does not get a lock (hence my 40 mile reference above). If my integrated navs (both of our current vehicles) did not have dead reckoning (including VSS connection to the vehicle), the nav would be useless. That is one advantage that an integrated Nav will have over the Garmins and Tom-Toms.

Chip
None of the Garmins do dead reckoning?


Edit: Just checked the Garmin web site. Some of their higher-end models do provide dead reckoning.

None of the Garmins do dead reckoning?


Edit: Just checked the Garmin web site. Some of their higher-end models do provide dead reckoning.

Yes, but it appears those units are approaching $1,000 or more. There may be one TomTom unit that is $500 with DR. The closer you get to an installed unit, the more likely it will have DR.

Chip

I saw this link on G8GT.com, looks like a plug and play unit offered to Holden that will work with the G8 factory radio. Hopefully it will be available here in the states as well.

http://www.sso.siemensvdo.com.au/files/T6UV71FZUI/Holden%20VE%20Poster%20-%20Navigation.pdf

I saw this link on G8GT.com, looks like a plug and play unit offered to Holden that will work with the G8 factory radio. Hopefully it will be available here in the states as well.

http://www.sso.siemensvdo.com.au/files/T6UV71FZUI/Holden%20VE%20Poster%20-%20Navigation.pdf

We've talked about it before on here. Noone has been able to get an answer about whether they will offer maps for the US. It looks like it has the possibility of working otherwise.

Chip

I am just finishing up having an in-dash DVD/Navigation unit installed up in the slot where the ugly LED battery meter and oil pressure meter is on the top of the dash. My pro installer is disconnecting the LED unit and sliding the in-dash unit in it's place. A nice custom formed cap piece will be installed so that it looks like it is part of the original car. The in dash DVD/Navigation unit is a motorized 7" full color touch screen. These type of units are available from all of the big names like Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer. I went with a lesser known, but great imported brand called Valor Electronics. It also comes with built in Bluetooth, XM Radio, has an IPod adaptor and is a DVD player. All for $749 shipped from the biggest online EBAY electonics dealer in the US. Comes with 2 year replacement coverage. I will post pictures when install is complete. I was able to fill all of my needs for the Bluetooth, XM radio and Navigation for a little more than you pay for a $400-500 nice portable NAV unit. Plus it is a DVD player. Just an option that some others might be interested in looking at.

That's actually a really, really good idea. No need to mess with the HVAC issue in the stock head unit. Plus I actually have a spare Alpine unit from an older car that I sold lying around in my house somewhere.

However, is that info you're replacing (battery level and oil pressure) available elsewhere, like the DIC? I wouldn't want to just get rid of the info altogether... After all, I may find my battery level and oil pressure to be useful information to know every once in a while. :D

Nav is a deal breaker on the car? Are you serious? :damnyou:

As of right now there is no options for Nav unless you want to install a portable type unit. I suppose you could install a kenwood 7100 type but you will lose the ability to see what you a/c is doing.

I agree a nav option would be great. Personally I think all of the OEM navs are POS. I'd much rather run a kenwood unit than pay for OEM nav. I am sure after a while someone will come out with something.
Wait, be right back.............................................. .............Yep! That little blue button is still on the mirror. Just my opinion, but so far I much prefer to push 1 button and tell my mirror where I want to go rather than run off the road while I screw around punching in what seemed to be an endless string of touchscreen crap. I sure wish I could figure out how that mirror learned to talk. :p

Wait, be right back.............................................. .............Yep! That little blue button is still on the mirror. Just my opinion, but so far I much prefer to push 1 button and tell my mirror where I want to go rather than run off the road while I screw around punching in what seemed to be an endless string of touchscreen crap. I sure wish I could figure out how that mirror learned to talk. :p

I'm with you. I have been VERY impressed by the turn-by-turn service available by pushing the "blue button." For what it's worth, I only need nav for the last few blocks...I usually can get to the closest major intersection myself unless I'm out of town.

A problem I see with built in Nav is that far from being a bonus, once the car is a couple of years old, it will be obsolete and from a resale value point of view, the Satnav will be a negative.

Map upgrades can be difficult (my brother's Calais only accepts the Holden approved DVD which takes up glove box space). I recently tried to use one in a 3 year old Lexus, and the interface felt like I was using a Commodore 64 computer game.

Very few people these days keep a phone, computer or game console for more than a couple of years, and if they do they would do some sort of upgrade during that time. An in car Satnav pretty much forces you to use that system for as long as you have the car.

And in three or four years time, when you go to sell, having a two or three generations old Satnav will be a big red cross when calculating the value of the car.

A problem I see with built in Nav is that far from being a bonus, once the car is a couple of years old, it will be obsolete and from a resale value point of view, the Satnav will be a negative.

Map upgrades can be difficult (my brother's Calais only accepts the Holden approved DVD which takes up glove box space). I recently tried to use one in a 3 year old Lexus, and the interface felt like I was using a Commodore 64 computer game.

Very few people these days keep a phone, computer or game console for more than a couple of years, and if they do they would do some sort of upgrade during that time. An in car Satnav pretty much forces you to use that system for as long as you have the car.

And in three or four years time, when you go to sell, having a two or three generations old Satnav will be a big red cross when calculating the value of the car.

:iagree:

A problem I see with built in Nav is that far from being a bonus, once the car is a couple of years old, it will be obsolete and from a resale value point of view, the Satnav will be a negative.

Map upgrades can be difficult (my brother's Calais only accepts the Holden approved DVD which takes up glove box space). I recently tried to use one in a 3 year old Lexus, and the interface felt like I was using a Commodore 64 computer game.

Very few people these days keep a phone, computer or game console for more than a couple of years, and if they do they would do some sort of upgrade during that time. An in car Satnav pretty much forces you to use that system for as long as you have the car.

And in three or four years time, when you go to sell, having a two or three generations old Satnav will be a big red cross when calculating the value of the car.

I would disagree. My wife's Escalade nav is 4 years old (2004 model). It is not obsolete and map upgrades are easy; just order the DVD. The only feature missing is touchscreen and that is not universally available now, i.e. iDrive. Frankly, it is very useful and functions as well as any current nav.

Chip

Man its simple go buy that bitchen Pioneer avic Z2 its has everything navi, hard drive dvd play back, cam opti

Man its simple go buy that bitchen Pioneer avic Z2 its has everything navi, hard drive dvd play back, cam opti

Solid option, if you want to guess what your AC is doing.

i like Toyota's navigation program... the other's i've encountered are very slow and cheap copies of the Toyota's... i would agree though, that paying $2k for navigation is outrageous... Honda's navigation option on the Civic is $1k whereas BMW is $2100... i prefer the bigger factory screen navigation than a 3"x3" TomTom...

Man its simple go buy that bitchen Pioneer avic Z2 its has everything navi, hard drive dvd play back, cam opti


i want this unit to. the only thing is that the face plate needs to be a different size so im waiting for that so that my dash doesnt look tacky looking. i have also heard that you might be able to get the "factory" display ie: A/C controlls and radio display. im not sure about that but im waiting on a response from pioneer. ill let you know what i find out.

I'd go with the kenwood 8120 over that. Much better nav system. Or now that it's out you may be able to find the kenwood 7100 for much cheaper. I have the 7100 installed in my truck it's a great head unit.

I'm wondering if you can tap into a portable to get video out (most have audio headphone jacks you can use for audio already) and plug it into the video screen on the dash (as shown in the other thread), then you can program your portable and plug it into the screen on the car and off you go...just a thought.

Oh yes you can :D Try lifting up the Ebrake one click. There are also devices to trick your head unit so it will play all the time. I know you can get the DVD in Cadlilacs so you can play them all day long while driving.

http://www.rocoto.com/siennamods/dvd_mod.html
http://www.rocoto.com/siennamods/nav_mod.html


I have an Eclipse deck in my Spura that plays DVDs all the time, and a Pioneer 4N1 in my truck that plays all the time?? It' easy to set them up that way.

Man its simple go buy that bitchen Pioneer avic Z2 its has everything navi, hard drive dvd play back, cam opti


I actually had the Z2 in the H3 i traded for to get the G8. I loved the Z2. best radio EVER!!! I would definitly purchase it again for the G8, IF and ONLY if i could get the AC controls on it as well. Otherwise, i am one of the patiently waiting people. I have, however, purchased the tom tom 720 which has the bluetooth options that i added to my Z2. But i do miss everything being in one, and the hard drive, and the back up camera, and the touchscreen, and the bluetooth ease, and the background changes, and the DVD playback. and etc etc.

No one uses their phone for navigation? I have a Sprint Touch with telenav and GPS, works just fine for me. No need to pay for an extra nav system to be installed. Now if there was just some small modulator that would allow the existing G8 screen to do navi, then that might be a different story. But, I wouldnt spend anything on a separate unit, when my phone does it all very easily, inexpensively and portably... (if that last one is a word).

pioneer sent me a message that they have no information on what will/ will not work on the G8... so basically its to new a car and they dont have access to one most likely.

im still trying to get more info from different sources but so far no luck on being able to change the radio...

which BLOWS!!!!!

What happens with your Garmin when you do not have a GPS signal for 40 miles?

Chip

Why would you not have a signal? I live in Manhattan and my Garmin works fine, with 90 story buildings next to me!

-mike

My answer to GPS is onstar turn by turn is awesome!!! dont have to type in anything just called onstar and they down everything to the car, and it tells you street and everything and mutes music!!! well worth every dime!!! and in june mapquest will work with Onstar when you can go online and get your directions and have them sent to your car!!! I LOVE TECHNOLOGY and MY G8!!!

Why would you not have a signal? I live in Manhattan and my Garmin works fine, with 90 story buildings next to me!

-mike

From the best I can tell, leafy trees and mountains are very effective at blocking satellites (or at least enough satellites that GPS does not work at times).

Chip

Good luck - looking forward to hearing/seeing how it goes.

If a $16k Scion can have built-in navigation, so should a $30k sedan. Ps. people pay extra for built-in nav because 1) it is a clean, classy, professional look, 2) it is covered by a warranty. Wal-Mart addons bolted onto the vent openings look cheap and tacky. Is Nav mandatory, no. But neither is a moonroof, heated seats, power door locks/windows or a 360 horsepower V8 engine that gets 10 mpg when driven hard. Why don't people all just drive Toyota Camrys?

+ 1

The 09' G8's are going to have an option for navigation and xm radio

I'm wondering if you can tap into a portable to get video out (most have audio headphone jacks you can use for audio already) and plug it into the video screen on the dash (as shown in the other thread), then you can program your portable and plug it into the screen on the car and off you go...just a thought.

Already looked into this. Its doable, but not by everyone. I have to really get moving on working figuring out a.) how to get video in without it turning off at speed and b.) converting the LCD signal internal to the garmin to an NTSC video. I have a microcontroller that I have this mostly working (software is almost done). I figure, mount the garmin in the armrest (power is there), plug in the addy, and switch to AUX on the deck. Who knows. If I ever find some free time, I'll get something working.

Why would you not have a signal? I live in Manhattan and my Garmin works fine, with 90 story buildings next to me!

-mike

Probably for the same reason my XM goes out on the 4th of a 6 floor parking garage, but not on the bottom 3. Or why my it will go out on a perfectly clear day everyone once in a while.

Probably for the same reason my XM goes out on the 4th of a 6 floor parking garage, but not on the bottom 3. Or why my it will go out on a perfectly clear day everyone once in a while.

GPS satellite signals tend to be much stronger than satellite radio signals. My Kenwood unit in my truck that uses Garmin has never once gone out, while the sirius signal will fade in and out under bridges.

GPS satellite signals tend to be much stronger than satellite radio signals. My Kenwood unit in my truck that uses Garmin has never once gone out, while the sirius signal will fade in and out under bridges.

My garmin holds a signal through tunnels under the water in Boston, which is more then I can say about the radio stations and my cellphone.

The 09' G8's are going to have an option for navigation and xm radio

We haven't heard this before on the Nav option. Would you care to point out your source?

Chip

We haven't heard this before on the Nav option. Would you care to point out your source?

Chip

salesman :drink: LOL

salesman :drink: LOL

The best source for all car information... :gr_devil:

No one uses their phone for navigation? I have a Sprint Touch with telenav and GPS, works just fine for me. No need to pay for an extra nav system to be installed. Now if there was just some small modulator that would allow the existing G8 screen to do navi, then that might be a different story. But, I wouldnt spend anything on a separate unit, when my phone does it all very easily, inexpensively and portably... (if that last one is a word).
Dude I totally agree with you... All over Verizon phones can do Nav and it actually works quite well. You don't have to look far find something that you can: hook up to your Aux input on your G8 that will play music, work as a phone, and provide GPS. Plus the portability is so great.... The only drawback is if you loose cell coverage you are SOL... But 99% of the time i have coverage. When all else fails... ya know that little letter in the rearview... yeah good ol fashion compass.

Navs cool but I got in on my blackberry turn by turn, I wouldn't lose any sleep without it. I really need it once or twice a month, I know people who use nav even when they know where they are going, damn showoffs.

We haven't heard this before on the Nav option. Would you care to point out your source?

Chip

Ya no problem my dad's own a chevy and gmc store. I work at the GMC store and my brother is the Dealer Operator. He went to check on Dealerworld and checked with the factory rep who verified that Nav and XM are options on the 09 models. thats going to be awesome too bad i have a 08' but i love it i have onstar so no worries

I read somewhere that the screen for the radio/ac is too low on the panel to be used for nav (safety reasons).

i read the same thing.. but im sure that eventualy we will be abe to switch the unit out for an aftermarket nav unit. (its not safe nor legal for people to have driver sunvisor screens that play while driving but i see it all the time) its just like being able to make a standard dash dvd unit play while in motion. eventually.. it will happen but most likely not stock. but i already have my G8 so stock wont matter to me.

Hey guys- my first post here. I currently have a 2007 G35 Sedan that I am considering unloading. My car is loaded with options like HD based voice activated/touch screen NAV, bluetooth, adaptive front headlights, back up camera, Intelligent cruise control, yada yada yada. I am looking to cut my payments a bit, and this car looks like it would be a lot of fun. Nav is important to me though-

Has anyone come up with a nice system that utilizes the stock screen and integrates into the system? I for one am very surprised this car wasn't given Nav.

I bought a tom tom 720 which has the bluetooth and all of that. But i would much rather have it built into the radio. I hate loose wires. However, i did a couple test runs on the Onstar Turn By Turn, and I was really impressed with it. I have been thinking about selling my tom tom and just using that until i figure out how to get a Z2/Z3 in there and keep my climate control visuals.

Good Luck and go get the G8 you will love it.

I bought a tom tom 720 which has the bluetooth and all of that. But i would much rather have it built into the radio. I hate loose wires. However, i did a couple test runs on the Onstar Turn By Turn, and I was really impressed with it. I have been thinking about selling my tom tom and just using that until i figure out how to get a Z2/Z3 in there and keep my climate control visuals.

Good Luck and go get the G8 you will love it.

Haha, yeah, we shall see. I am looking forward to test driving it. I am considering either a 06/07 BMW 550i loaded up with between 20-30k miles for $38-42k or buying a new loaded G8 GT for $32k and spending a couple thousand in Nav and maybe a backup camera. I need to resist the urge for wheels and lowering, unless it will align in spec. Thats the reason I want to drop my G, no alignment kit available for the front, and its killing tires! Its a tad too low for everyday driving too. It just doesnt look as good at stock ride height. :whine:

Navs cool but I got in on my blackberry turn by turn, I wouldn't lose any sleep without it. I really need it once or twice a month, I know people who use nav even when they know where they are going, damn showoffs.

I only use my nav to show me what time I'm going to be there if I know the route. Mine sits on the ledge in front of the atari gages.
Most people can't see it anyway.

Ridiculous that this awesome car doesn't come with navigation. I'll be shopping for a new car this summer (coming from an Infiniti G35x) and no nav is a dealbreaker. Does anyone know of any aftermarket dvd-based nav solutions available yet for this car? Thanks


I am in the same boat as you. I have a G35 Coupe with Navi. I love it. I have been thinking serious about trading for a G8, BUT I want stock Navi... I DONT care that it's $2k, its worth it... I cant stand the thought of getting a Garmin or TomTom and having it stuck to the windshield and all the clutter of the wires and junk... Lookin like some trailer park car... I like the clean fit and finish of an installed unit.

If anything I may wait for the 09's to come out and hope they have a Navi option...

I am in the same boat as you. I have a G35 Coupe with Navi. I love it. I have been thinking serious about trading for a G8, BUT I want stock Navi... I DONT care that it's $2k, its worth it... I cant stand the thought of getting a Garmin or TomTom and having it stuck to the windshield and all the clutter of the wires and junk... Lookin like some trailer park car... I like the clean fit and finish of an installed unit.

If anything I may wait for the 09's to come out and hope they have a Navi option...

I see you made it over! I am with you guys too, GR8VINO has a pretty good setup going. His post is on page 1 of this thread, I PMed him. He is planning on posting pics and a write-up about his setup when he has it installed, soon, I hope!

I have a Rand Mcnally nav system.

It's never failed me.

But if I need it, I can always use the OnStar Turn by Turn, which works great.

I have nav... its the lil compass in the mirror. I do it boyscout style (no pedophile jokes please).

you do realize that the car can have turn by turn nav by hitting the on-star button

you do realize that the car can have turn by turn nav by hitting the on-star button

yep. I never thought I would care about Navi and especially a stupid backup camera, now that I am used to them, they would be tough to let go of. I actually have learned more about the areas I go b/c of the nav and reading street names and whatnot as I approach places, etc etc. I use mine all the time. The Infiniti Nav system is 100x better than BMW and MB. I have recenty test drove 06/07 BMW 550is and the new C class MBs. Neither Nav unit is comparable to the Infiniti one.... Just my humble opinion though.

yep. I never thought I would care about Navi and especially a stupid backup camera, now that I am used to them, they would be tough to let go of. I actually have learned more about the areas I go b/c of the nav and reading street names and whatnot as I approach places, etc etc. I use mine all the time. The Infiniti Nav system is 100x better than BMW and MB. I have recenty test drove 06/07 BMW 550is and the new C class MBs. Neither Nav unit is comparable to the Infiniti one.... Just my humble opinion though.


Yeah, I made it... :D I agree with you, Once you have a nice feature its hard to let go....

does the G8 put the windows down with the keyfob???? Thats a feature I use daily.... I love it....

no automatic windows from the remote.. it would be sweet tho..

Ridiculous that this awesome car doesn't come with navigation. I'll be shopping for a new car this summer (coming from an Infiniti G35x) and no nav is a dealbreaker. Does anyone know of any aftermarket dvd-based nav solutions available yet for this car? Thanks



NEWS FLASH: Navigation is available through Holden and Blaupunkt. The catch is, I don't know if they have a map disk for us. Our head unit DOES do navigation.

NEWS FLASH: Navigation is available through Holden and Blaupunkt. The catch is, I don't know if they have a map disk for us. Our head unit DOES do navigation.

Any info available?? This would be great!

NEWS FLASH: Navigation is available through Holden and Blaupunkt. The catch is, I don't know if they have a map disk for us. Our head unit DOES do navigation.

We've known this for a while, however, the US version of the headunit has different firmware (to move the buttons around) and it is unknown if the nav will still work.

I emailed Blaupunkt, I'll get back to you when I get a response. If you look at the brochure for the Holden Commodore SS-V it clearly states that Nav is an add on option.

I emailed Blaupunkt, I'll get back to you when I get a response. If you look at the brochure for the Holden Commodore SS-V it clearly states that Nav is an add on option.

The last time this was brought up, we were told there was not a North America map disk available. It would be interesting to see if the story has changed.

Chip

I emailed Blaupunkt, I'll get back to you when I get a response. If you look at the brochure for the Holden Commodore SS-V it clearly states that Nav is an add on option.

Yeah, people have already emailed Blaupunkt and they said "Nope, sorry".

If Nav is going to be an 09 option... where the hell is it coming from? Blaupunkt?

I realise the G8 headunit is slightly differnt to the VE but if you do a search VDO Siemens also make a integrated addon gps unit utilising the Factory screen with a remote control operation instead of the factory steering wheel controls.
I am currently in the process of wiring in a Garmin GVN-53 to the factory VE screen using the rear aux in which also works for the G8.When the information becomes available I will try to rewire it with the RGB Factory Nav input if it's possible.XM is also available with the Garmin Unit

I realise the G8 headunit is slightly differnt to the VE but if you do a search VDO Siemens also make a integrated addon gps unit utilising the Factory screen with a remote control operation instead of the factory steering wheel controls.
I am currently in the process of wiring in a Garmin GVN-53 to the factory VE screen using the rear aux in which also works for the G8.When the information becomes available I will try to rewire it with the RGB Factory Nav input if it's possible.XM is also available with the Garmin Unit

I posted last night about the ability to do this. A guy did it in his G35, should be pretty much the same in this car... Keep up posted!

I realise the G8 headunit is slightly differnt to the VE but if you do a search VDO Siemens also make a integrated addon gps unit utilising the Factory screen with a remote control operation instead of the factory steering wheel controls.
I am currently in the process of wiring in a Garmin GVN-53 to the factory VE screen using the rear aux in which also works for the G8.When the information becomes available I will try to rewire it with the RGB Factory Nav input if it's possible.XM is also available with the Garmin Unit

Please, Please keep us posted! this would be awsome. Please take some digital pictures as you build it.

Thanks,

Mike

why is navigation such a necessity? i only go somewhere that i need navigation maybe twice a year. i certainly don't need it daily to find my way to work and back home. even if you do, you can use the onstar.

It's not a necessity, it's called taking advantage of technology. We were a society that used to get around on a horse and buggy, but things change. With that said, not everyone is doing the same thing either. Let's say you were a real estate agent and you had to go to 10 different addresses a day that you have never been to. Well Navigation would be pretty handy at that point. I for one like it since I don't have to jot down directions all the time if I'm going somewhere new. It's not an exact science, but it's helpful most of the time. Some people are also poor navigators with little sense of direction - again navigation would be a big plus. I'd rather have someone listening to their navigation system (which they programmed while parked..) driving down the road, rather than someone fiddling around with directions and a map, not paying attention to the road. Navigation is not something I use very often, but there are times when it can be pretty helpful.

One other thing to point out isn't about navigation, but it's called points of interest. Let's say you have two kids in the back on a road trip and one of them wants Pizza - well you can use the POI lookup to find a place to eat at. In my Honda it also had phone numbers and such, which was handy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gmhcalais/nav.jpg

The Garmin Gvn-53 works with the VE screen OK.Picture is not quite as sharp as on a Garmin Nuvi.
Destination/POI can only be input when the vehicle is stationary unless the VIM Mod is made availble.
The pinouts used are the same as AUX Rear as shown in other threads.I will use the supplied speaker with audio Mute (Connector J4 pin 5).I haven't properly installed this yet so no pics but the test setup worked fine.

When listening to the radio ,mute is applied and instructions given from supplied speaker,the nav screen will only be shown when in AUX mode and when vehicle is stationary.The Garmin also has audio line outs which can be hooked up to Connector J3 pins 5,6,11. and used for XM radio.

Please check other threads for confirmation of pins used for Aux/Mute in US application.

The Garmin Gvn-53 works with the VE screen OK.Picture is not quite as sharp as on a Garmin Nuvi.
Destination/POI can only be input when the vehicle is stationary unless the VIM Mod is made availble.
The pinouts used are the same as AUX Rear as shown in other threads.I will use the supplied speaker with audio Mute (Connector J4 pin 5).I haven't properly installed this yet so no pics but the test setup worked fine.

When listening to the radio ,mute is applied and instructions given from supplied speaker,the nav screen will only be shown when in AUX mode and when vehicle is stationary.The Garmin also has audio line outs which can be hooked up to Connector J3 pins 5,6,11. and used for XM radio.

Please check other threads for confirmation of pins used for Aux/Mute in US application.I thought this would work with the G8. I see yours is in the VE.

From your message it looks like we just need to get the VIM portion to work for the states so that we can see the map while driving, correct? Otherwise this will be an audio only system reading out directions while driving, and we can only input the info while in park (and only see the screen above while in park), correct?

why is navigation such a necessity? i only go somewhere that i need navigation maybe twice a year. i certainly don't need it daily to find my way to work and back home. even if you do, you can use the onstar.

bc there are people like me who drive for a living. last year alone i put almost 35,000 miles on my car and if i am driving and out of town and have to change were i am going in a split second, i dont have time in my job to pull over and look at a map. I use my nav every day!

^agreed. I drive all over the mid west. Ever end up on some side county road because the interstate was shut down?
You can throw mapquest out the window at this point. I don't remember how to get to Vector Motorsports, but my GPS does.

Tom Tom anyone?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/gmhcalais/nav.jpg

The Garmin Gvn-53 works with the VE screen OK.Picture is not quite as sharp as on a Garmin Nuvi.
Destination/POI can only be input when the vehicle is stationary unless the VIM Mod is made availble.
The pinouts used are the same as AUX Rear as shown in other threads.I will use the supplied speaker with audio Mute (Connector J4 pin 5).I haven't properly installed this yet so no pics but the test setup worked fine.

When listening to the radio ,mute is applied and instructions given from supplied speaker,the nav screen will only be shown when in AUX mode and when vehicle is stationary.The Garmin also has audio line outs which can be hooked up to Connector J3 pins 5,6,11. and used for XM radio.

Please check other threads for confirmation of pins used for Aux/Mute in US application.


does it still show the climate control settings and stuff like that? or did it delete that. since that is the main reason most of us havnt added Nav.

does it still show the climate control settings and stuff like that? or did it delete that. since that is the main reason most of us havnt added Nav.

Yes.All the overlays work as normal.I haven't given up on the RGB input yet but I don't think US units have that input available without reprogramming.In Aus we have one of the HU buttons labelled NAV and even when you don't have nav it look's for it and then comes up with "Full Map Navigation not available" on the screen.

Yes.All the overlays work as normal.I haven't given up on the RGB input yet but I don't think US units have that input available without reprogramming.In Aus we have one of the HU buttons labelled NAV and even when you don't have nav it look's for it and then comes up with "Full Map Navigation not available" on the screen.

Yeah, the problem is going to be with the "input" method. I'm actually thinking about stuffing my Garmin in the armrest and using the radio's display for just a display. Just have to get rid of that pesky "Nothing over 5mph" thing.

Yes.All the overlays work as normal.I haven't given up on the RGB input yet but I don't think US units have that input available without reprogramming.In Aus we have one of the HU buttons labelled NAV and even when you don't have nav it look's for it and then comes up with "Full Map Navigation not available" on the screen.

interesting.... very interesting...
ok so..... who knows how to reprogram the US units??
damn united states and all their stupid rules and reguations.... :whine:

Nav is a deal breaker on the car? Are you serious? :damnyou:

As of right now there is no options for Nav unless you want to install a portable type unit. I suppose you could install a kenwood 7100 type but you will lose the ability to see what you a/c is doing.

I agree a nav option would be great. Personally I think all of the OEM navs are POS. I'd much rather run a kenwood unit than pay for OEM nav. I am sure after a while someone will come out with something.

I have a portable Gamin Nuvi and I love it. But the wife has the large OEM touchscreen NAV/Entertainment/GPS in her Eddie Bauer Explorer. With Microsoft sync and all the options it has. More features, bigger screen and ties into the satellite radio/cell phone better/and aux inputs. It even has a usb port in the center console. It is way better than the portable!:slap:

I have the Kenwood DNX-7100 in my Avalanche...got it for 800 on Onlinecarstereo.com AND I LOVE IT....it has built-in Garmin and dose everything Ipod,bluetooth list gose on...I would give anything to put one in my G8... But I save alot of money because I do my own installations

Cool, now you can watch movies on a 7" screen while your driving. Yikes!

Pioneer, $200, big screen nav, bluetooth, and audio / video player. $0 VIM mod available.

http://home.comcast.net/~steve.huminski/g8/gps04.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~steve.huminski/g8/gps05.jpg

Any easy solution for Navigation in a G8 is the Azentek rear-view mirror based unit. This unit not only includes navigation, but bluetooth and a rear-view mirror option.

See below link:
http://www.azentekonline.com/cms/content/view/17/33/

Any easy solution for Navigation in a G8 is the Azentek rear-view mirror based unit. This unit not only includes navigation, but bluetooth and a rear-view mirror option.



Can I get mine without the rear-view mirror option? :)

Oops! I meant a rear view camera. Thanks for catching that.:)

What do you guys think of the Garmin Nuvi 200W GPS System

It is on sale for 160 near me. Is it a decent portable device or should I put the money towards something better?

The 200 series Nuvi's have been replaced with the 2x5 series. I'd suggest you go to the Garmin website and do some research because there are many models and options to choose from these days.

Any easy solution for Navigation in a G8 is the Azentek rear-view mirror based unit. This unit not only includes navigation, but bluetooth and a rear-view mirror option.

See below link:
http://www.azentekonline.com/cms/content/view/17/33/
Seems like a whole lotta shillin' going on.