Price is with USAA incentives.

Dealer quote:

I have done a locate for one and found a Red GXP equipped like you are wanting. Obviously I still have to find out the availability on it from the other dealer, but I have a price for you. You can buy this car for $35005 plus all taxes and doc fee. This includes all applicable rebates. Your total price for this car with tax would be $37819.75.Is that worth it?


My wife wants 35K OTD, I told her that likely wouldn't happen with how low supply is...she likes to low ball everyone. Ha Ha

Hecks yeah, get it!

seems like a decent price. you are getting what about 6K off sticker (before taxes)

I love that his totally proves my theory that I argued a few weeks ago with a GXP owner, about supply and demand as it relates to this specific brand of car (Pontiac)

I would love to have a GXP- But My GT is no slouch so I am okay with it! :)

That sounds like a decent price. You may have a little more to play with, but inventory is so low.

If it was 37K or 36.5K I think it would be a no brainer.

Good price. Supply is getting low and a lot of dealer don't want to negotiate.

Crunched the numbers. That price is basically 35K plus 99 doc fee plus 7% tax.

Only way they said they could do better would be to get GMS.

Anything less than MSRP is well worth it for such a great car. I had to pay MSRP to get my 0%/72 months back on July 4, and I have absolutely no regrets. I wouldn't have been willing to may any mark-ups at the dealer though. Get it while you can!

That is an awesome price for a GXP right now. If you don't get it, you will be kicking yourself later. I wouldn't try to low ball them any more.

If you decide you don't want it, let us know. I'm sure someone will immediately snap it up at that price.

Well it is a want, not a need, so we are crunching the value index numbers.

;)

I've been itching since selling my 630rwhp GTO. Plus if we get it, this car will be shipped to Germany for autobahn duty.

The draw for me on this car is that it is a better performing car than the 335i at a cheaper price.

It is going to need a CAI, Tune, and Pedders Coilovers though...eventually a Circle D Triple Disc 2800 stall converter as well.

If I get it! :D

Believe it or not I found a better deal. Contingent on the dealership getting one transfered to them.

$34,500 + WI Sales tax of 5.1%

Comes to $36,259.50

WOW!


At 5.34% APR for 60 months my total pay off will be about $42,000 which is nearly the same as the deals people got at 0% APR for 72.

Rogers auto group in Chicago can get a Black M6 GXP for $41K minus incentives for anyone interested...I need an auto for the wife.

That might be the key though... Getting one transfered to the Wisconsin dealership???

I bet the USAA dealer wont find another dealer willing to trade out their GXP. I tried to use the USAA car buying service and I even found dealers with GXPs in stock and they would not honor the guaranteed pricing.

we shall see

Good deal.

Do it.

Most dealers weren't willing to trade GXPs back in May when I got mine. Just FYI. Wish you luck.

I can get this deal on a GXP as the car still shows up on my search.

$40,500 selling price
$95.00 Doc fee
$40,595 sale price
$2,232.73 tax
$164.00 license and registration
-$3500 rebate
$39,491.73 final sale price

I can also deduct another $1500 for GM points and another $500 for a GMAC coupon I just got in the mail but the catch is this car was driven all summer buy the dealer and has over 4000 miles on it and they only discounted it $395.00 I think $38,500 or $39,000 is a better staring price???? They did tint the windows but that wouldn't be worth a hill of beans if I drove it 4K miles and tinted them.

I think you got some room to haggle 1080paul. It may 'technically' be a new car, but with 4k on the clock it's obviously not. You should try to get another 1k off. Look to see what used ones are going for with similar mileage to get a feel for how low you can go.

Believe it or not I found a better deal. Contingent on the dealership getting one transfered to them.

$34,500 + WI Sales tax of 5.1%

Comes to $36,259.50

WOW!


At 5.34% APR for 60 months my total pay off will be about $42,000 which is nearly the same as the deals people got at 0% APR for 72.

Rogers auto group in Chicago can get a Black M6 GXP for $41K minus incentives for anyone interested...I need an auto for the wife.

Good luck. Nobody will trade away their GXP's. If they do, most want something ridiculous back. Like 3 G6's/Vibes which sell 100x better right now than any G8.

Ya I couldn't get a dealer trade and had to go direct to the dealer.. good luck!

Good price. Locally GXP is listed $45,000 and GT is $37,000. Yikes...

I bought my GT for more than 10k less.

Good price. Locally GXP is listed $45,000 and GT is $37,000. Yikes...

Show me the people who pay that for those cars and I will show you a set of morons.

I paid 26.2K for my GT in May
I have seen GXPs go for around 34K.

Supply/Demand... yadda yadda yadda... It is a car, IT is not a collectable, it is not in high demand, otherwise they would have already sold out of them long ago.

Show me the people who pay that for those cars and I will show you a set of morons.

I paid 26.2K for my GT in May
I have seen GXPs go for around 34K.

Supply/Demand... yadda yadda yadda... It is a car, IT is not a collectable, it is not in high demand, otherwise they would have already sold out of them long ago.

The morons are out there apparently buying into the hype. The salespeople certainly think what they have is golden. In the last couple of weeks, I've emailed 6 dealers in 4 states with my GMS purchase authorization number with assurances I have money in hand to purchase their GXP 6MT in inventory at GMS price. First to say they were willing to do the deal would get my business.

I speculate two of them ended up using me as leverage to make their sales to others at full sticker (coincidentally, both got deposits from others the same day I made a committed email offer). The owner of one of the dealerships allegedly bought the car himself and hadn't taken it off the inventory list yet. Two others apparently already sold or traded away their inventory weeks ago but it was still listed on the Pontiac site. The last one wants over 42K and would keep my GMS discount and rebates for himself, giving him nearly, if not more than, 8K in pure profit.

Ya know, I can buy a used M5 for less money than that. It's rarer and will hold its value better than a new GXP. PT Barnum was right. And the suckers are buying up the remaining GXPs. I hope they think it is worth it. I sure don't. If I want an LS3 6MT that badly, I'll give up two doors and order a Camaro SS with RS package, get more features like HID lights, and save 10K. Unfortunately for GM, I need a sedan in my current stage of life. So, I will be going elsewhere to get one with rwd and manual transmission. The CTS is overpriced, even with GMS. And no dealer has the balls to stock one with an MT to test drive, anyway. 2010 Infiniti G37, here I come... That new Subaru Legacy 2.5GT is also surprisingly quick and refined for the price (the manual shifter leaves a little to be desired, though). The Acura TL SHAWD with 6MT is also quite refined with a lot of features in GXP MSRP territory (I test drove one of those last Friday - dealer got 2 in that day - are you listening Cadillac dealers?). Curiously, it's looking less ugly each time I look at it :wink2:

I've had the GM employee discount since 1997 and am disappointed to say I've only been compelled to use it twice in 12 years - once for the family minivan in 1997, when GM briefly had the best minivan on the market before the all new 1998 first V6 Honda Odyssey came out (we have since replaced the Silhouette with a 2006 Odyssey), and now with trying to purchase a GXP MT. The new and the old GM and their dealers never have and seemingly never will cater to manual transmission sport sedan enthusiasts. The one time they did including actually stocking the cars for test drive, they killed the brand. My BMW 335 lease is up early next year. My replacement would have been a GXP. I made that decision last March the day I test drove a GXP MT when they first came out. I was prepared to buy right now and store the extra car until my lease is up, IF I could have gotten a fair deal. The rest is history...

From my perspective, the behavior of these dealers is the ugly part of capitalism, but I guess I can't blame the dealers for taking advantage of a sufficient population of suckers. EXCEPT, these same guys are likely the same who whined for protections for the domestic auto industry when the free market was putting GM into bankruptcy. Effectively, this might make them hypocrites. I will no longer feel sorry for them if the new GM fails. BTW, one of the dealers, instead of just being honest, still thought I'd buy into paying $995 for Scotchgard and wax (called it a dealer installed "Environmental Upgrade Package") - and that's a dealership GM didn't choose to close down. The new GM still has a long way to go, my friends...I hope they "get it" some day before it's too late.

^^^^ Frankly you sound bitter because you can't get a GXP for the price you want. I'm sorry you couldn't buy one earlier, but no one said life was fair. There are less than 50 left and the less there are, the more the dealers want for them. That's called capitalism. A few months earlier people were picking up GXPs for ~35k + TTL. Are you mad at the dealers for letting them go that low then?

BTW this issue is totally a dealer issue. GM has nothing to do with it, aside from setting the MSRP, the transaction price is pretty much out of their control.

The dealers are trying nonsense like this on all performance vehicles. Doesn't matter what it is, they're talking about how it's "the end of an era" and "cars like this aren't gonna be around much longer". Fear is their friend right now.

What you should do is ask yourself if you really care if the car is new or not. You're right about the used M5. It's got more toys on it too, and it's a freaking M5. What about looking for a used CTS-V? A used one of those isn't really *THAT* much more than what some of the crackpipe prices the dealers are wanting...

Or, you can just wait for the Pontiac dealers to close, and buy an unsold GXP then. Because all the morons who will pay $50k for a Pontiac are all too busy buying German cars.

The morons are out there apparently buying into the hype. The salespeople certainly think what they have is golden. In the last couple of weeks, I've emailed 6 dealers in 4 states with my GMS purchase authorization number with assurances I have money in hand to purchase their GXP 6MT in inventory at GMS price. First to say they were willing to do the deal would get my business.

I speculate two of them ended up using me as leverage to make their sales to others at full sticker (coincidentally, both got deposits from others the same day I made a committed email offer). The owner of one of the dealerships allegedly bought the car himself and hadn't taken it off the inventory list yet. Two others apparently already sold or traded away their inventory weeks ago but it was still listed on the Pontiac site. The last one wants over 42K and would keep my GMS discount and rebates for himself, giving him nearly, if not more than, 8K in pure profit.

Ya know, I can buy a used M5 for less money than that. It's rarer and will hold its value better than a new GXP. PT Barnum was right. And the suckers are buying up the remaining GXPs. I hope they think it is worth it. I sure don't. If I want an LS3 6MT that badly, I'll give up two doors and order a Camaro SS with RS package, get more features like HID lights, and save 10K. Unfortunately for GM, I need a sedan in my current stage of life. So, I will be going elsewhere to get one with rwd and manual transmission. The CTS is overpriced, even with GMS. And no dealer has the balls to stock one with an MT to test drive, anyway. 2010 Infiniti G37, here I come... That new Subaru Legacy 2.5GT is also surprisingly quick and refined for the price (the manual shifter leaves a little to be desired, though). The Acura TL SHAWD with 6MT is also quite refined with a lot of features in GXP MSRP territory (I test drove one of those last Friday - dealer got 2 in that day - are you listening Cadillac dealers?). Curiously, it's looking less ugly each time I look at it :wink2:

I've had the GM employee discount since 1997 and am disappointed to say I've only been compelled to use it twice in 12 years - once for the family minivan in 1997, when GM briefly had the best minivan on the market before the all new 1998 first V6 Honda Odyssey came out (we have since replaced the Silhouette with a 2006 Odyssey), and now with trying to purchase a GXP MT. The new and the old GM and their dealers never have and seemingly never will cater to manual transmission sport sedan enthusiasts. The one time they did including actually stocking the cars for test drive, they killed the brand. My BMW 335 lease is up early next year. My replacement would have been a GXP. I made that decision last March the day I test drove a GXP MT when they first came out. I was prepared to buy right now and store the extra car until my lease is up, IF I could have gotten a fair deal. The rest is history...

From my perspective, the behavior of these dealers is the ugly part of capitalism, but I guess I can't blame the dealers for taking advantage of a sufficient population of suckers. EXCEPT, these same guys are likely the same who whined for protections for the domestic auto industry when the free market was putting GM into bankruptcy. Effectively, this might make them hypocrites. I will no longer feel sorry for them if the new GM fails. BTW, one of the dealers, instead of just being honest, still thought I'd buy into paying $995 for Scotchgard and wax (called it a dealer installed "Environmental Upgrade Package") - and that's a dealership GM didn't choose to close down. The new GM still has a long way to go, my friends...I hope they "get it" some day before it's too late.


Umm... all the dealers do ADM. To name a few over the past few years Toyota Prius, Nissan 350 and 370Z, Nissan GT-R and Camaro. It isn't a GXP thing. It is a dealer thing. If they think they can get it they will. The big difference over any other car? There is no more Pontiac (kills me to repeat it) and as timing would have it they produced 1828 of the most powerful, highly regarded pontiac to boot before the axe dropped. Values? They will hold their values. Most were bought by Pontiac diehards, like me. You will have to pry it from my dead, cold lifeless hands. I have no intention of ever selling it and I think most people who own a GXP feel the same way. So if you want unique and cool get the GXP. You want the "me too" go for it.

The morons are out there apparently buying into the hype. The salespeople certainly think what they have is golden. In the last couple of weeks, I've emailed 6 dealers in 4 states with my GMS purchase authorization numbe...

etc etc etc...


...feel sorry for them if the new GM fails. BTW, one of the dealers, instead of just being honest, still thought I'd buy into paying $995 for Scotchgard and wax (called it a dealer installed "Environmental Upgrade Package") - and that's a dealership GM didn't choose to close down. The new GM still has a long way to go, my friends...I hope they "get it" some day before it's too late.

So, I sold both of my GXP's for GMS and GSU. Am I the cause of this inflation because I sold two of the last 6M GXP's at such a low rate? If GM just went to a "see the sticker and pay that", what would happen? GM would be taking on a new slogan of the NEW NEW GM because nobody wants to walk into a dealer and not negotiate. I see it every day even on here how someone flexes "Check out my deal... $20k out the door got retail for trade in on my 84' Maserati and then they gave me free car washes and oil changes for 8 years...". We all wanna be the guy who gets the best deal. Even me! I get haggled on every day. I expect it. I don't hate it. It is the way it is. I return the favor on almost everything I do because why shouldn't I be the guy getting a great deal.

To end my rant about nothing I will say this. Yes, some DEALERS, not GM, are charging over sticker for GXP's. Nothing is twisting people's arms to buy them. They buy them because they want them. End of story. ****, we just sold a Solstice GXP Hardtop (1 of 5 made in the color BTW)to another dealer for sticker. Does that make us bad? No, because it had that value to someone, probably the owner. We didn't force him to call us and without a second breath say money will be wired tomorrow.

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^^^^ Frankly you sound bitter because you can't get a GXP for the price you want. I'm sorry you couldn't buy one earlier, but no one said life was fair. There are less than 50 left and the less there are, the more the dealers want for them. That's called capitalism.

If I sound bitter it's because capitalism for these dealers didn't run both ways. If it had, they and the rest of GM would be out of business right now instead of being bailed out with our money; and their inventory would have been liquidated for pennies on the dollar. I suppose with GXPs, the end result would have been the same for consumers - they would have gone to auction and went to highest bidder, which could have still driven prices to ridiculous levels...except the dealers wouldn't have seen the profit, the creditors would have - probably the same banks also bailed out with more of our money. With no post-sale product support though, most of the cars probably would have gone into collectors garages never to be driven, or people would have had to buy an extra as a parts car.

Anyway, it was nice to vent on line. Such is the reality of life. I'm more disappointed than bitter. Whether it's really the end of an era remains to be seen. To date, car companies have dealt with CAFE fines by passing them on as "gas guzzler tax". The EPA claims they won't allow that this time around. ...and I ask, what method of enforcement other than fines can they use? Can they actually make selling a muscle car that gets 24 mpg a criminal act? If that's the case, capitalism is dead and the socially engineered dictatorial nanny state is upon us....but it's all for our own good, fellow citizens. The only thing CAFE might do is make the fines so huge that the tax on a formerly 35K Camaro SS becomes 25K, making a 60K Camaro out of reach for middle class America. IE, once again the middle class gets screwed while the elite are the only ones who can afford the luxuries of life, like high powered sports cars with V8s, among other things. ...and before you know it, a few generations from now, the middle class will only be able to afford to live in a pod jammed into one of many engineered communities of tomorrow, taking mass transit to work. ...and who will own the engineered communities of tomorrow - both the political and wealthy elite, of course. It doesn't matter whether you're a Democrat or Republican, we are headed in the direction of mainstream America oppressed by an elite class and their controls to make sure the majority of America can't consume too much in order to protect their power and wealth...er...ah...I mean the environment from man made global warming. To protect the environment, the power elite will make sure the middle class will only be able to afford living in a pod and using mass transit, no matter how much our economy and mid-level income grows. Too strong and wealthy of a middle class upsets the balance of power. What we are witnessing today is political and business elite working together to bring things back in line to make the middle class more dependent , obedient, and docile. We'll still have cell phones, mind-numbing cable TV, and video games that allow a simulation of high performance driving, though. Like I said, I'm not bitter or cynical or anything.....maybe just a tad libertarian. :whine::soapbox:

If I offended anyone, please forgive me. You can ban me too, I suppose. Since I obviously won't be a G8 owner any time soon, my days on this discussion board are very numbered. I've been lurking here for many months in anticipation of possibly buying a MT G8 when my lease was up in Spring 2010. Things would have worked out great had I went with a 2 year instead of 3 year lease. Another rant: GM announced Pontiac would be around through 2010. I had to guess whether that meant G8 production would go into 2010 or not. By the time it was obvious (not just speculation) there would be no 2010 production, it was too late for me to buy in '09 at a reasonable price.

Oh well, enjoy your GXPs now before gas goes up to $6 a gallon after Israel bombs Iran. I'll probably wind up buying a Honda Fit or Jetta TDI next spring for 40K, or I may have to move to more affordable urban housing and take the bus to work. :wink2:

If I offended anyone, please forgive me. You can ban me too, I suppose. Since I obviously won't be a G8 owner any time soon, my days on this discussion board are very numbered. I've been lurking here for many months in anticipation of possibly buying a MT G8 when my lease was up in Spring 2010. Things would have worked out great had I went with a 2 year instead of 3 year lease. Another rant: GM announced Pontiac would be around through 2010. I had to guess whether that meant G8 production would go into 2010 or not. By the time it was obvious (not just speculation) there would be no 2010 production, it was too late for me to buy in '09 at a reasonable price.

Oh well, enjoy your GXPs now before gas goes up to $6 a gallon after Israel bombs Iran. I'll probably wind up buying a Honda Fit or Jetta TDI next spring for 40K, or I may have to move to more affordable urban housing and take the bus to work. :wink2:

Perhaps you could pick up a slightly used GXP in the near future.
I know I am not offended by your post.

Good Luck to you.