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eeeek.

What does it do? What's the gains? Is the 1+K worth it?

holy ****, never thought id see the day. N/A guys are going to be all over these

What does it do? What's the gains? Is the 1+K worth it?
It just kinda sits there... not very entertaining to watch really... They need to teach it some tricks.


Seriously though our stock intake sucks. The test 2010 camaro saw 15RWHP/11RWTQ gains with this, direct comparison to stock. This was BEFORE tune (I didn't see the after tune #'s)

It just kinda sits there... not very entertaining to watch really... They need to teach it some tricks.


Seriously though our stock intake sucks. The test 2010 camaro saw 15RWHP/11RWTQ gains with this, direct comparison to stock. This was BEFORE tune (I didn't see the after tune #'s)

While this may very well provide a good gain, our stock intakes far from suck, particularly after a port job.

While this may very well provide a good gain, our stock intakes far from suck, particularly after a port job.
Perhaps after a port job they do OK, but in stock form they flow about what the LS6 did. Maybe horrible is an overstatement, but when you look at what it's being compared too, it's horrible :)

I guess a lot of those pretty engine covers people did up would get ditched after this upgrade.

While this may very well provide a good gain, our stock intakes far from suck, particularly after a port job.


I agree I think our intakes are the OEM one of choice for the LSX motors?

The test 2010 camaro saw 15RWHP/11RWTQ gains with this, direct comparison to stock. This was BEFORE tune (I didn't see the after tune #'s)


Well not bad numbers but I think the guys porting the OEM one get close to 7-8 hp for a lot less money. This is a cool ass intake but only after a cam, headers and head work do I think people will be able to justify its price.

Also was that with the OEM trottle body?

Well not bad numbers but I think the guys porting the OEM one get close to 7-8 hp for a lot less money. This is a cool ass intake but only after a cam, headers and head work do I think people will be able to justify its price.

Also was that with the OEM trottle body?
Yes. And Yes. What is porting running for the L76 intake?

Yes. And Yes. What is porting running for the L76 intake?

About $250: http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?p=246477&highlight=intake+porting#post246477

Or the cost of a Dremel if you follow the tutorial that was on the board somewhere.

The intake on our cars is off of the Corvette (you knew that right?) and doesn't exactly "suck" its actualy not half bad.

Hot Rod mag tested these to be worth about 20 hp gain. But that was on an LS2 engine not ours so what the gains would be for us is still unknown.

going to be good on a big cube motor, or on a head and cam car. I got one on the way

It just kinda sits there... not very entertaining to watch really... They need to teach it some tricks.


Seriously though our stock intake sucks. The test 2010 camaro saw 15RWHP/11RWTQ gains with this, direct comparison to stock. This was BEFORE tune (I didn't see the after tune #'s)

Get back to me when they compare it to a ported LS3 intake.

(porting will run around 300ish)

Also,what are you going to use for a throttle body? There is only one drive by wire aftermarket 102mm TB out there, and that's not even really available yet, it's really just a rumor at this point.

It just kinda sits there... not very entertaining to watch really... They need to teach it some tricks.


Seriously though our stock intake sucks. The test 2010 camaro saw 15RWHP/11RWTQ gains with this, direct comparison to stock. This was BEFORE tune (I didn't see the after tune #'s)


Our stock intakes are not that bad. but seriously 1k+ for 15hp pass.

15bhp on a stock motor, more on a big cube or heads and cam car, also you guys know the faster you go the more it cost to go fast.

15bhp on a stock motor, more on a big cube or heads and cam car, also you guys know the faster you go the more it cost to go fast.

this is def. too fast for me then haha

i would like to see a pic of it installed tho

The intake on our cars is off of the Corvette (you knew that right?) and doesn't exactly "suck" its actualy not half bad.

Hot Rod mag tested these to be worth about 20 hp gain. But that was on an LS2 engine not ours so what the gains would be for us is still unknown.
Yes, I'm well aware. Our intake is about equal to the flow of the LS6 intake, and the FAST far outpaces it.

Get back to me when they compare it to a ported LS3 intake.

(porting will run around 300ish)

Also,what are you going to use for a throttle body? There is only one drive by wire aftermarket 102mm TB out there, and that's not even really available yet, it's really just a rumor at this point.
The Nick Williams TB is available already. This test was done with the stock TB.

I do keep forgetting the culture differences though. I am used to a world where everyone is pretty hard core and looking for any advantage possible... G8 owners tend to be more casual about all out performance, which is perfectly understandable given it's a 4200 pound 4 door sedan.

I do keep forgetting the culture differences though. I am used to a world where everyone is pretty hard core and looking for any advantage possible... G8 owners tend to be more casual about all out performance, which is perfectly understandable given it's a 4200 pound 4 door sedan.

You are right about that. You have to remember most people use this as a DD car, even the performance people. I was actually thinking of putting it on my G8 but decided 1k for 10 to 20 rwhp wasn't worth it at the moment.

Maybe if it was on of my last mods and it would gain 20 to 30 since I have a better cam, heads, and what not, then yeah 1k would be worth it. I guess I would just wait and see what the camaro and corvette crowds think of it first.

Did a search, couldn't find any detailed instructions for porting the intake. I would be really interested in this. I would rather do it myself though because I wouldn't be able to send mine to get it done.

Might have to throw one on next month after I get redynoed.

That will be a great addition if I go the heads and cam route. Other than that, I'll wait to see what kind of results people are getting. It would be great to have a throttle body to go with it. I'll take a wait and see...

That will be a great addition if I go the heads and cam route. Other than that, I'll wait to see what kind of results people are getting. It would be great to have a throttle body to go with it. I'll take a wait and see...
There is already a TB.

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2189&osCsid=be3f

Yes, I'm well aware. Our intake is about equal to the flow of the LS6 intake, and the FAST far outprices it.


Fixed it for you. ;) Porting our stock intake yeilds pretty impressive #'s and costs alot less. But if you have to have the name I can understand.

I'd rather spend that $1600(intake and 102TB) on a cam and stall converter. You'd see a much bigger gain in HP and a big reduction 1/4 mile times for the same money.

missing the point, this is not a stand alone mod, it is for the more hard core.

There is already a TB.

http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2189&osCsid=be3f

Uh oh. This might have moved up to my next mod. I bet that the intake, throttle body, and retune would be worth 20-25RWHP.

I need to call Livernois.

Our stock intakes are not that bad. but seriously 1k+ for 15hp pass.

truth. hells NO for a thousand dollars of 15 stinking HP.

truth. hells NO for a thousand dollars of 15 stinking HP.

Reminds me of when I was modding my M3. LOL! Lots of money for not much gains.

missing the point, this is not a stand alone mod, it is for the more hard core.

i get the point.. It is for those folks who have a long list of mods, and are trying eek out every ounce of power out of their car, regardless of cost.

well you get the point

I'd rather spend that $1600(intake and 102TB) on a cam and stall converter. You'd see a much bigger gain in HP and a big reduction 1/4 mile times for the same money.

The labor alone would easily be $1600 for a cam change, then the labor for the converter. You'd probably be a lot closer to $3K when all was said and done.

The intake swap is really easy... no need to pay anyone for install. PLUS, I just found this intake For $797 shipped on Ebay. I will add the Nick Williams 102MM TB as well. I can't wait!

The labor alone would easily be $1600 for a cam change, then the labor for the converter. You'd probably be a lot closer to $3K when all was said and done.

The intake swap is really easy... no need to pay anyone for install. PLUS, I just found this intake For $797 shipped on Ebay. I will add the Nick Williams 102MM TB as well. I can't wait!

With your list of mods, you'd be better off spending 400-450 on having your LS3 intake and 90mm tb ported...

But, it's your money.

With your list of mods, you'd be better off spending 400-450 on having your LS3 intake and 90mm tb ported...

But, it's your money.

My current mods have found their way on to the car in the less than 3 months that I've had the car. I've built and modded a ton of cars and I'm a firm believer in having a plan and sticking to it. I also don't believe in doing things twice. If I'm going to have the intake off then I might as well go with the best thing out there.

My eventual plans are for heads and cam, possibly a built stroker or forced induction, so I figure the intake is overkill for now but perfect for the long term plans.

My current mods have found their way on to the car in the less than 3 months that I've had the car. I've built and modded a ton of cars and I'm a firm believer in having a plan and sticking to it. I also don't believe in doing things twice. If I'm going to have the intake off then I might as well go with the best thing out there.

My eventual plans are for heads and cam, possibly a built stroker or forced induction, so I figure the intake is overkill for now but perfect for the long term plans.


That is true. Figure out what the plan is and then mod. If it didn't cost me 1600 for one, I would have gotten it even if it was over kill for just ported heads, cam, and headers.

Sometimes getting a good deal a part makes you do things out of order but hey at least he is getting a new power adder that only can help him.

Our stock intakes are not that bad. but seriously 1k+ for 15hp pass.

agreed!

That is true. Figure out what the plan is and then mod. If it didn't cost me 1600 for one, I would have gotten it even if it was over kill for just ported heads, cam, and headers.

Sometimes getting a good deal a part makes you do things out of order but hey at least he is getting a new power adder that only can help him.

Very true. Also, I will definitely be putting the car on the dyno after the install so that will help everyone else decide whether its worth the money or not. From what I've seen so far, the gains in both hp and torque seem to be across the power band from 3500 all the way up. There's a ton of gains added under the curve.

Very true. Also, I will definitely be putting the car on the dyno after the install so that will help everyone else decide whether its worth the money or not. From what I've seen so far, the gains in both hp and torque seem to be across the power band from 3500 all the way up. There's a ton of gains added under the curve.


The only thing many of us want to see has been mentioned before. Is there a major difference between the $1600 worth of intake and tb over a ported set of stockers that cost 400?

I'm certain there will be a gain for the Fast set up, the question is, is it worth the expense on stock cubes. Good luck with the Fast set-up, it does look nice.

I agree with GeorgeInNePA Let's get a comparo:

Do Nothing = $0
Ported Stock = $400
FAST = $1000
Intake and TB = $1600

The only thing many of us want to see has been mentioned before. Is there a major difference between the $1600 worth of intake and tb over a ported set of stockers that cost 400?

I'm certain there will be a gain for the Fast set up, the question is, is it worth the expense on stock cubes. Good luck with the Fast set-up, it does look nice.

Thanks. I will make sure to post the results. I'm not sure how quickly I'll get around to installing it. I don't even have the parts yet. I'm looking at a total of somewhere around $1400 for the intake and TB.

It would be great if somebody went the ported stocker route with before and after dyno numbers to compare.

First test that I've seen with a ported LS3 intake (not sure who's) vs a Fast 102.

Important info that might be overlooked,----> the LS3 used a 90mm TB and the FAST used a 102mm TB.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-external-engine/1183175-engine-dyno-testing-ls3-intakes-inside.html


ETA:
This thread says it's a Formato Stage 1 intake...

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-external-engine/1179654-ls3-engine-dyno-intake-side-side-testing.html

I am going to say the fast intake is sweet looking but on stoke cubes it is over kill unless you are forced Induction. A ported intake and TB with a good tune will be just as good. I have only had my G8 for a few days but the biggest problem i see so far is heat soaking on hte intake and fuel rail from the heater hoses.

It looks like typical gains are in the low double digit range... about what I expected based on initial info. We will see what my results end up being.

It is interesting that some comparisons show gains across most of the RPM range (about 3500 and up) while others don't show gains until around 5000. I have to say that I'll be a little disappointed if the gains under the curve aren't a bit more broad based. I'll be happy if it shows double digit gains from 3500 up like some of the graphs I've seen.

It looks like typical gains are in the low double digit range... about what I expected based on initial info. We will see what my results end up being.

It is interesting that some comparisons show gains across most of the RPM range (about 3500 and up) while others don't show gains until around 5000. I have to say that I'll be a little disappointed if the gains under the curve aren't a bit more broad based. I'll be happy if it shows double digit gains from 3500 up like some of the graphs I've seen.

Low double digits over a stock, untouched LS3 intake.

5-7hp over a ported LS3.

Low double digits over a stock, untouched LS3 intake.

5-7hp over a ported LS3.

Probably spot on. Still, I'm preparing for the future. :)

Vector has one for 75% less than FAST:

http://www.vectormotorsports.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=90&category_id=41&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

Vector has one for 75% less than FAST:

http://www.vectormotorsports.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=90&category_id=41&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

You also need a ported throttle body to go with it. One other thing that isn't being factored into the cost of going the factory ported route is the core charge. I noticed the one from Vector has a $300 core charge. I'm going to keep my stock intake or I guess I could sell it for $200-$300 to offset the cost of the FAST intake. It looks to me like the cost of going the ported route (plus ported TB) is really closer to $600.

I'm going to be into my FAST setup about $1500. That's for the intake, a 102MM Nick Williams TB, billet fuel rail adapters, and a wiring harness.

WOW, go back to that thread and look at the dyno chart for the L92 Truck intake...

You also need a ported throttle body to go with it. One other thing that isn't being factored into the cost of going the factory ported route is the core charge. I noticed the one from Vector has a $300 core charge. I'm going to keep my stock intake or I guess I could sell it for $200-$300 to offset the cost of the FAST intake. It looks to me like the cost of going the ported route (plus ported TB) is really closer to $600.

I'm going to be into my FAST setup about $1500. That's for the intake, a 102MM Nick Williams TB, billet fuel rail adapters, and a wiring harness.

Almost everyone either has their intake ported or swaps their core for a ported one.

The core charge only counts if you WANT to keep the stocker. Why have another part on the shelf?

Almost everyone either has their intake ported or swaps their core for a ported one.

The core charge only counts if you WANT to keep the stocker. Why have another part on the shelf?

True. That's what I'm saying. If I sold my stock intake for what they want for a core, then that knocks down my out of pocket cost on the FAST intake to $497.

You also need a ported throttle body to go with it. One other thing that isn't being factored into the cost of going the factory ported route is the core charge. I noticed the one from Vector has a $300 core charge. I'm going to keep my stock intake or I guess I could sell it for $200-$300 to offset the cost of the FAST intake. It looks to me like the cost of going the ported route (plus ported TB) is really closer to $600.

I'm going to be into my FAST setup about $1500. That's for the intake, a 102MM Nick Williams TB, billet fuel rail adapters, and a wiring harness.

Porting both should only be $300, go find a local shop, But keep us up to date with your project.

I'm going with the Vector intake in the next couple of weeks. They are going to re-dyno my car before and after the ported intake (no TB porting).