: Lines in Paint From Plastic Protective Film
OVERULD 04-29-2008, 07:19 PM Has anyone had any issues with the plastic protective shipping film leaving lines in the paint finish on the hood or elsewhere? I saw this on a magnetic gray car on a dealer's lot. I'm picking up my IOM car from this dealer tomorrow and the fleet sales rep told me that there may be some lines on the car - and that their PDI guys don't really want to try to remove them.
How should I get them off the car without scratching the finish??
BJ
r.penguin@comcast.net 04-29-2008, 07:22 PM Has anyone had any issues with the plastic protective shipping film leaving lines in the paint finish on the hood or elsewhere? I saw this on a magnetic gray car on a dealer's lot. I'm picking up my IOM car from this dealer tomorrow and the fleet sales rep told me that there may be some lines on the car - and that their PDI guys don't really want to try to remove them.
How should I get them off the car without scratching the finish??
BJ
Nope.
GT-610 04-29-2008, 07:27 PM yeah-just below my driver side door...annoying but I'll have the dealer clean it when I'm in for my oil change.I didnt want to do it myself in fear of ruining the paint
I had a few of those lines on the car, I used a little Zaino Z-PC with a soft cotton cloth to buff them out.
Blackbirdws6 04-29-2008, 08:01 PM I didn't have any but are these glue lines? If so, when I worked at an Infiniti dealership we used to use this stuff called Acrysolv. Took the lines off no problem but not sure where to buy it. Try some wax and a microfiber cloth and they should come off. If not just tell the dealer.
-Brian
Has anyone had any issues with the plastic protective shipping film leaving lines in the paint finish on the hood or elsewhere? I saw this on a magnetic gray car on a dealer's lot. I'm picking up my IOM car from this dealer tomorrow and the fleet sales rep told me that there may be some lines on the car - and that their PDI guys don't really want to try to remove them.
How should I get them off the car without scratching the finish??
BJ
I have a Black G8 GT. I had the same adhesive lines from the plastic protective film applied to transport the car from the factory. I washed it good and used a good wax. It came right off without any scratches. Just make sure you always use a clean polishing cloth. The car dealer was using some kind of solvent in the prep area to clean it off. Not sure what it was but it didn't hurt it.
DuBob 04-29-2008, 09:15 PM I have them on our red GT.....claybar took them off, but I'm sure there's a few more spots that I missed.
dodson914 04-29-2008, 09:51 PM Has anyone had any issues with the plastic protective shipping film leaving lines in the paint finish on the hood or elsewhere? I saw this on a magnetic gray car on a dealer's lot. I'm picking up my IOM car from this dealer tomorrow and the fleet sales rep told me that there may be some lines on the car - and that their PDI guys don't really want to try to remove them.
How should I get them off the car without scratching the finish??
BJ
Let me get this straight. You are buying a 30k car, and they are telling you that they are too lazy to clean up the packaging crap on it. :dunno:
I have a black GT. It was very clean when I got it from the dealer. I drove it around for a few hours and noticed the lines as well. I took it back the next morning they washed it again, got all of sticky stuff off and got a scratch guy out to buff out a few scratches and swirl marks for me.
OVERULD 04-29-2008, 10:07 PM Thanks for the input guys. I've told them that it will be their problem not mine, but I don't want them letting some new-hire who doesn't know ***** from shinola to screw up something. Before I let that happen I'll take it home and detail it like I do my 71 GTO.
BJ
Blackbirdws6 04-30-2008, 06:55 AM Thanks for the input guys. I've told them that it will be their problem not mine, but I don't want them letting some new-hire who doesn't know ***** from shinola to screw up something. Before I let that happen I'll take it home and detail it like I do my 71 GTO.
BJ
That sounds like your best bet. If they don't sound confident then I would let them know (during you picking it up) that their incompetence in properly prepping a vehicle will be indicated on the GM survey. I wouldn't tell them this off the bat because then they will prob have the newbie try and fix it which could not be good for your car.
They should at least throw you a few oil changes or you request they pay for a professional detailer to take care of it.
-Brian
OVERULD 04-30-2008, 08:13 AM That sounds like your best bet. If they don't sound confident then I would let them know (during you picking it up) that their incompetence in properly prepping a vehicle will be indicated on the GM survey. I wouldn't tell them this off the bat because then they will prob have the newbie try and fix it which could not be good for your car.
They should at least throw you a few oil changes or you request they pay for a professional detailer to take care of it.
-Brian
Brian:
I don't expect to get much from them since this is a courtesy delivery. I don't know what GM pays a dealer to do a courtesy delivery but I'm guessing it isn't much. I ordered this car through Enterprise Fleet Leasing whom I have been using in my business for nearly 15 years and who knows how many vehicles -so if I'm not happy with the dealership, I'll let Enterprise (GM's largest customer) deal with it.
BJ
HardEight 04-30-2008, 09:02 AM I had them. And I don't want some minimum wage ahole scratching up my paint trying to get them off. 3M makes an adhesive remover that is safe on paint. I have even seen people use GooGone and WD-40 without any problems. Just remember to make sure the surface is clean and to use a clean cloth and to use a paint safe solvent and it will come right off.
Small Dealer 04-30-2008, 10:40 AM Let me get this straight. You are buying a 30k car, and they are telling you that they are too lazy to clean up the packaging crap on it.
As OVERULD comes back to say, they are not buying the car from the dealership that is doing the delivery. It is a Courtesy Delivery. Which at many dealerships, receives a lower priority in prep, paperwork and the delivery process itself.
That sounds like your best bet. If they don't sound confident then I would let them know (during you picking it up) that their incompetence in properly prepping a vehicle will be indicated on the GM survey.
They should at least throw you a few oil changes or you request they pay for a professional detailer to take care of it.
As a Courtesy Delivery, there will most likely be no satisfaction survey sent to OVERULD.
Also no sense of "guilt" or "money to charge against" to get something like oil changes or a professional detailer to redo the car.
I don't expect to get much from them since this is a courtesy delivery. I don't know what GM pays a dealer to do a courtesy delivery but I'm guessing it isn't much.
GM doesn't pay a dealership anything for doing a fleet courtesy delivery. What a dealership makes is what you pay them. What ever Enterprise marked up the car to pay the dealership.
Also if a true fleet delivery, the first tank of gas will be on you not the dealership/GM.
The real thing to watch out for in a true fleet courtesy delivery, is that the proper paperwork (Certificate of Origin) has made it to the delivery dealership from the charge to dealership Enterprise bought the car from.
OVERULD 04-30-2008, 09:44 PM Small Dealer:
All good points. I did pick the car up today and first - let me say that I absolutely love this car and this color...WOW...Pontiac has definitely hit a homerun with this car.
The delivering dealer was John Bailey in Buford, GA. I am not sure which dealer Enterprise bought the car from. John Bailey did an excellent job on the PDI. There were a few places that needed touch up but I chose to take care of them and in-fact, have already done that with McGuiar's new Ultimate Quik Detailer and some micro-fiber towels. It worked great and the finish looks fantastic. John Bailey's fleet sales manager did have $20 worth of premium fuel in the car and got authorization from Enterprise to bill them for that. But, you are correct - I filled the car up on my dime.
I got the car for $500 under dealer invoice so I was very pleased with the deal that Enterprise made on my behalf. I'll use this dealer for other things because they are local and were very courteous to me during this process. Even though they didn't sell the car, they have earned my business on service and accessory parts. By the way, they have several GTs on the lot and none of them, including their 888 car, are priced over MSRP.
Ask for Debbie Newman.
BJ
Ausstar 05-01-2008, 11:59 AM this has been better than most cars ive seen. I work with some MBenz that have this problem far worse.
1. Clay works but you risk dragging around the same glue that can scratch the car.
2. Laquer thinner works too. Just be sure to rewax afterwards.
3. You can use an orbital DA polisher (TC has great startup kits for these) with some basic finishing cream of some kind
4. Or use a little polish with microfiber towels. never touch your paint with cotten towels.
Done this so many times, hope this helps.
C
appletonrc 05-05-2008, 06:43 AM this has been better than most cars ive seen. I work with some MBenz that have this problem far worse.
1. Clay works but you risk dragging around the same glue that can scratch the car.
2. Laquer thinner works too. Just be sure to rewax afterwards.
3. You can use an orbital DA polisher (TC has great startup kits for these) with some basic finishing cream of some kind
4. Or use a little polish with microfiber towels. never touch your paint with cotten towels.
Done this so many times, hope this helps.
C
I picked up my Magnetic Gray this weekend and just saw the marks yesterday. At first my wife thought they were scratches, then I remembered this thread. I'll clean it up myself.
68Rustang 05-12-2008, 04:00 PM Before you guys go attacking the paint with polishing compound, volatile chemicals and power tools try some simple spray detailers or cleaners. I used "Honda Spray Cleaner & Polish" that I had lying around and a clean towel, it worked great. All lines were gone in less than a minute and no rewaxing needed. It is also a great bug remover.
GTXgp 05-12-2008, 04:16 PM I had a small tape mark on the bottom right corner of the front driver's door. Some 3M Adhesive remover (as mentioned in previous reply) took it right off.
OVERULD 05-12-2008, 09:39 PM There were a few places that needed touch up but I chose to take care of them and in-fact, have already done that with McGuiar's new Ultimate Quik Detailer and some micro-fiber towels. It worked great and the finish looks fantastic.
This stuff took every tape/plastic wrapping mark and/or residue off very easily.
BJ
wahsabi 05-14-2008, 02:57 AM I used to detail at a Mercedes and a BMW dealership and every new car came with plastic protectant tape on the hood, roof, trunk, and inside the door jams. Usually on the sides there are adhesive foam blocks to help protect from the door hitting anything. The lines that were left behind would be taken off using some paste wax like Mequiars Hi-Tech yellow #26 (good stuff!!) and a foam pad. All you have to do is rub it around the line and wipe it off with a micro fiber towel. If you wanna go even further.. a Porter Cable Orbital Buffer works really well for waxing without getting tennis elbow!
Ausstar 05-16-2008, 08:29 PM I used to detail at a Mercedes and a BMW dealership and every new car came with plastic protectant tape on the hood, roof, trunk, and inside the door jams. Usually on the sides there are adhesive foam blocks to help protect from the door hitting anything. The lines that were left behind would be taken off using some paste wax like Mequiars Hi-Tech yellow #26 (good stuff!!) and a foam pad. All you have to do is rub it around the line and wipe it off with a micro fiber towel. If you wanna go even further.. a Porter Cable Orbital Buffer works really well for waxing without getting tennis elbow!
yeah thats the easiest way to do it especially for the more stuborn ones... it would be nice if they all came off with spray wax but what happens then is you have to rub so hard that you end up scratching the paint. Souonds like some are easy to get off this way though which is great!!
But to previous post: You dont need aggressive or "volatile" chemicals, but just a light polish with a DA, light pad and light polish. That way you dont affect the paint but you actually will remove some light spiders too.
I had to polish my whole car when I got it cos it had quite a few (expected) spider webs in the paint.
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