http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=886&stc=1&d=1209607099
http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=885&stc=1&d=1209607099

and 1.5 meg GIF
http://members.cox.net/jhpgto/G8.gif

how did you get the video to work?

just plugged it in

just plugged it in

wow!!!! no way!!!!! thats it!!!!!:fawkdance:

no... seriously...

where exactly? i know back up cams come with a RCA cable...

is there a video RCA jack in the back of the stereo?

i believe there is!!

yes and no
the top connector on the side of the radio has video input as well as RBG input.
http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=888&stc=1&d=1209612566

so just get a regular back up camera and install it?

funny that.. i thought you said the G8 wasn't capable of displaying video....

hmm i wonder how you did it?..??..


I don’t know how you guys figured G8 radio is capable of playing video. It is not the same unit and is not programmed to play video. And the programming has to be adapted or rewritten to work in the G8 unit...

Right, I don't believe he has a G8 radio or programming for G8 to make changes to it. Also, he was only offering a change to make video visible while driving. That's assuming video would work in a car while it's parked. I think it's all a bunch of crap from a person who just wants to collect the money and not even trying to understand that it's not the same unit. There are physical differences, not just on programming level.

The rear seat DVD system can be connected even right now, but it only transfers audio to the unit, not the video. The video is what the whole deal is about....

identical to my diagram i posted up showing exactly which was video and audio pins..

funny that.. i thought you said the G8 wasn't capable of displaying video....

hmm i wonder how you did it?..??..

thats what IM ASKING!!!!!!

funny that.. i thought you said the G8 wasn't capable of displaying video....

hmm i wonder how you did it?..??..

Your offering to sell a device that questions about the integrity have been brought up, and all you can say is, Well I haven't tried it on a G8, but my buddy knows what he's talking about....

How about we refrain from hi-jacking his thread??

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=886&stc=1&d=1209607099
http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=885&stc=1&d=1209607099

and 1.5 meg GIF
http://members.cox.net/jhpgto/G8.gif

Looks great! What kind of camera, ect. ect. ect.?? Details, Details, DETAILS!!!

:D

mate im not hijacking anything,

and its not just a mate.

im not some random guy trying to do anything.

I own a car audio shop in Australia and MY mate is the one that actually designed the system in our VE commodores and your G8's!

Thats why I just happen to know all these things and can do most of it!

Not just making this stuff up mate.

Anyway, not trying to start anything up, just simply stating I have been saying this from the begining and have been told by some people on here that it can't be done, when i KNOW it can!

Cheers,
Adrian

mate im not hijacking anything,

and its not just a mate.

im not some random guy trying to do anything.

I own a car audio shop in Australia and MY mate is the one that actually designed the system in our VE commodores and your G8's!

Thats why I just happen to know all these things and can do most of it!

Not just making this stuff up mate.

Anyway, not trying to start anything up, just simply stating I have been saying this from the begining and have been told by some people on here that it can't be done, when i KNOW it can!

Cheers,
Adrian

How many G8's, not Commodores, G8's have you installed your gadget on? And you still haven't addressed Dede's concerns.

How many G8's, not Commodores, G8's have you installed your gadget on? And you still haven't addressed Dede's concerns.

it doesn't matter if i have done a G8 or not, our tech has done, tested done everything with all the units..

Not that hard to understand guys

Doesn't matter though, enjoy!

Cheers,
Adrian

it doesn't matter if i have done a G8 or not, our tech has done, tested done everything with all the units..

Not that hard to understand guys

Doesn't matter though, enjoy!

Cheers,
Adrian

So this is untested on a G8, your not a board sponsor, and you have STILL not addressed Dede's questions and you want someone to pay $400 for this??

G'Day

it doesn't matter if i have done a G8 or not, our tech has done, tested done everything with all the units..

Not that hard to understand guys

Doesn't matter though, enjoy!

Cheers,
Adrian
If you want to quote me, you have to quote the response below also. And whatever your mechanic/technician/friend tells you, you have not done G8 yet and until then people should have a right to know that they are risking close to $3000 of repairs if something goes wrong which you cannot help them with since you are across the world and which will not be covered by the factory warranty.


The Pontiac database is not showing pinout information for unused connectors. When I did load pins for the video, I had onscreen distortion and a contrast message showed up. So it maybe working after all (in park).:wall:

But I definitely still wouldn’t use Commodore programming for G8

But I definitely still wouldn’t use Commodore programming for G8.


I originally said it wasn't commodore programming and the reason it was more pricey was because we had to REPROGRAM it for YOUR G8s so it did work. As the commodore one will not work on it!

I originally said it wasn't commodore programming and the reason it was more pricey was because we had to REPROGRAM it for YOUR G8s so it did work. As the commodore one will not work on it!

That's a change of story. I'm pretty clear you said that it will be more expensive because you will have to send programmers to the people and leave them there plus the shipping across the world.

And also increasing price due to reprogramming doesn't make sense considering US market 5-10 times larger than AU market and it should pay for itself pretty quick.

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POST PLEASE!!!!!!

DEDE did you make your own connection? or what did you do? PICS please....

Thanks

That's a change of story. I'm pretty clear you said that it will be more expensive because you will have to send programmers to the people and leave them there plus the shipping across the world.

And also increasing price due to reprogramming doesn't make sense considering US market 5-10 times larger than AU market and it should pay for itself pretty quick.

It was said, wether it was in one of my deleted post is another story.. if you ever need anything or have a question im more then happy to help....

Anyway didn't wanna take over your post, ill finish here, sorry mate..

Cheers,
Adrian

this blaupunkt radio, does it have a model number and name on it?

this is the first one I have seen removed that shows the back hookups.

Sure would be nice if all we have to do is buy a connector that plugs in the radio and has a composite connector. You get that and we buy them!

Those connectors are actually on the side, not the back. It actually makes life a bit easier, but I haven't found any model type information yet that's close to anything you can find info on -beyond what's been posted already in terms of which pins are for the rear input and such.

this blaupunkt radio, does it have a model number and name on it?

this is the first one I have seen removed that shows the back hookups.

Sure would be nice if all we have to do is buy a connector that plugs in the radio and has a composite connector. You get that and we buy them!

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/vxclubby85/IMG_4884.jpg

I have a few questions for dede and/or NoLimit.

1. How does the radio know when to turn the backup camera on?

2. Obviously from dede's post this proves that G8's CAN display video AND while it is in motion (if you are backing up you are moving right?)

3. How about a list of part numbers and instructions for us who would be interested in this setup.

4. Can you have a backup camera and another external video source connected at the same time or would that require some sort of external A/V switching device?

5. How do you select the video source on the radio?


There is no sense in all of this arguing. I don't think NoLimit has tried to sell anything through the board since the first "issue" came up (I may be wrong though) He has just offered information even though he does own a shop and is not a sponsor I think it is ok for non-sponsors to offer input that will help us.

I have a few questions for dede and/or NoLimit.

1. How does the radio know when to turn the backup camera on?

2. Obviously from dede's post this proves that G8's CAN display video AND while it is in motion (if you are backing up you are moving right?)

3. How about a list of part numbers and instructions for us who would be interested in this setup.

4. Can you have a backup camera and another external video source connected at the same time or would that require some sort of external A/V switching device?

5. How do you select the video source on the radio?


There is no sense in all of this arguing. I don't think NoLimit has tried to sell anything through the board since the first "issue" came up (I may be wrong though) He has just offered information even though he does own a shop and is not a sponsor I think it is ok for non-sponsors to offer input that will help us.

HERE HERE!!

Right on Hannibal.

Please get back to the subject at hand. If No Limit has the answer to this issue, they need to go through the sponsorship program and start offering something at deals to us.

In the meantime, I want to know what kind of connector was made and how exactly it was done. dede PLEASE answer the questions already listed on this thread. You can't just give us a tidbit of info and then hang us out to dry, we are all like crackheads and you just gave us a free fix..

Hook us up with some more!! :)

Well I emailed Blaupunkt and this is what i got in reply...


RE: Customer contact‏
From: Villafuerte Luis (CM-AS/SAS-NA) (Luis.Villafuerte@us.bosch.com)
To:

The unit does not have a specific model name because it is an originalequipment unit. Due to safety concerns there is no option to input avideo signal into the unit.

Luis Villafuerte


Robert Bosch LLCBlaupunkt Technical Advisor - AM/SCM12800 South 25th Avenue - Broadview IL 60131Phone: 800.950.2528
luis@blaupunktusa.com
www.blaupunktusa.com

Well I emailed Blaupunkt and this is what i got in reply...


RE: Customer contact‏
From: Villafuerte Luis (CM-AS/SAS-NA) (Luis.Villafuerte@us.bosch.com)
To:

The unit does not have a specific model name because it is an originalequipment unit. Due to safety concerns there is no option to input avideo signal into the unit.

Luis Villafuerte


Robert Bosch LLCBlaupunkt Technical Advisor - AM/SCM12800 South 25th Avenue - Broadview IL 60131Phone: 800.950.2528
luis@blaupunktusa.com
www.blaupunktusa.com

You should email him back and ask why it was an option in Australia.

May be the guy is telling the truth because i saw the video of him backing up thats kind of hard to do if he's parked right. I do agree with dede its alot of money repair. However look into the Pioneer Aviv z2 it will carry everything and more for what your looking for that if you have a g to spend. Its a radio with a hard drive records cd right there on the spot so you can give it back to your friend plus, bluetooth, rear view camera alot that plus the navi is installed.

Those connectors are actually on the side, not the back. It actually makes life a bit easier, but I haven't found any model type information yet that's close to anything you can find info on -beyond what's been posted already in terms of which pins are for the rear input and such.

Found it, I lost track of this thread early on...


I am being told in will work with a programming "module." I am awaiting specific details from Adrian @ NoLimit. I am not sure if we are able to talk about it though because it is not sold by one of the paid sponsors.

DY,
Yes, members should be allowed to collect money from other members for the purpose of a GP. We are all adults. vBulletin has a "user rating" feature that could be turned on. There is also ebay feedback that can be used as meter.

The pictures that were deleted for some odd reason (or overzealous moderator), for the record, these pictures were posted by one of the Aussies and they are of a Holden dash which may or may not match our Pontiacs:

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=758&stc=1&d=1208385047

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=759&stc=1&d=1208385047

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=760&stc=1&d=1208385047


http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=761&stc=1&d=1208385047

I am going to the dealer tomorrow to look through the wiring diagrams they have. How closely they match what is here, if at all is up in the air.

Is there a option for female connectors. The male connectors won't work with my Zen W

Is this cable home made from radio shack. What are the part numbers for the clips?
If that is the case I'm making one tonight.

JHP (jhp.com.au DBA www.g8partsdirect.com) now officially picked up production and distribution of that item. Pricing is not finalized, we need to get proper connectors and finish product development. That product is expected to be complete plug and play.


We probably will not offer the programming to remove the video speed limiter due to safety regulations in the US and possibility of voiding warranty on the unit with programming.

I have a few questions for dede and/or NoLimit.

1. How does the radio know when to turn the backup camera on?

2. Obviously from dede's post this proves that G8's CAN display video AND while it is in motion (if you are backing up you are moving right?)

3. How about a list of part numbers and instructions for us who would be interested in this setup.

4. Can you have a backup camera and another external video source connected at the same time or would that require some sort of external A/V switching device?

5. How do you select the video source on the radio?


There is no sense in all of this arguing. I don't think NoLimit has tried to sell anything through the board since the first "issue" came up (I may be wrong though) He has just offered information even though he does own a shop and is not a sponsor I think it is ok for non-sponsors to offer input that will help us.

1. just press AUX if you need it
2. The speed for video cutoff is 5 mph which is perfectly fine for backing up the car.
3. parts are not available in US ...
4. yes you can just more parts and cost
5. see # 1

If you want to quote me, you have to quote the response below also. And whatever your mechanic/technician/friend tells you, you have not done G8 yet and until then people should have a right to know that they are risking close to $3000 of repairs if something goes wrong which you cannot help them with since you are across the world and which will not be covered by the factory warranty.

I like how you're willing to risk rashing a factory radio for science. :gr_jest:

1. How does the radio know when to turn the backup camera on?
Most cars will turn on the camera when the transmission is shifted into reverse. Maybe the "AUX" button that Monaro mentioned keeps it on w/o being in reverse. :dunno:

Ok just to clear a few things up, I was only trying to offer some advice and help. Those connectors dont have a part number and arn't available here in Australia either, Our tech got them from overseas, not sure where. And we make them up, easy done.

Which allows a straight plug and play option. It wont auto swtich when put in reverse, you need to push the aux button to bring up the picture.

It is possible for auto switching but through programming, wont be available anytime soon though...

Cheers,
Adrian

Those connectors dont have a part number and arn't available here in Australia either, Our tech got them from overseas, not sure where. And we make them up, easy done.



Yeah, pretty much what he said. Those are not available for purchase but we still can get them ;) :gears:

Ok, have our tech here now. And just went over a few things with him. He has confirmed pretty much everything i have been saying, and there is no major difference in our units apart from the extra onstar programming in yours.

Pretty much the onstar is completely seperate and already enabled on your units, the VIM doesn't affect anything to do with that, will not damage a thing, is not tracable, will not reprogram or play with anything else in the car. 100% safe! on our units aswell as yours as they are identical!

Also, just for everyones information - won't be available though, the stereos do already have a composite 2 input for reverse cam which auto switches when put in reverse, but is not active (can be activated) - will be optioned on the next model for us.

Not trying to attack anyone or sell anything, just confirming the information on the spot as our tech was here.

Cheers,
Adrian

So how's going to make one stateside and test it??

It appears there are differences between the pin outs from the G8 radio compared to the Holden VE radio, see below comparison.
JHP own both a VE SS & G8 and we have checked the pin out for both radios and there are some differents.
G8 pin out in the left field & VE SS on the right field, see below link

Pretty much the onstar is completely seperate and already enabled on your units, the VIM doesn't affect anything to do with that, will not damage a thing, is not tracable, will not reprogram or play with anything else in the car. 100% safe! on our units aswell as yours as they are identical!

Also, just for everyones information - won't be available though, the stereos do already have a composite 2 input for reverse cam which auto switches when put in reverse, but is not active (can be activated) - will be optioned on the next model for us.

Cheers,
Adrian

Are you saying the VIM will not be available for the US?

Are you saying the VIM will not be available for the US?

Sounds like to me that VIM would be available but only with re-programming the car's system. So just by reading all these posts, I really don't care about video in motion. All I care about is being able to hook my I-Pod up and allowing the radio to control it on the screen. I could really care less about watching videos. So if I can get some type of plugs for the rear auxiliary port, that would be great.

Question for NoLimit and JHP:

Has anyone figured out how to plug the darn I-pod up in the rear radio auxiliary port??? If this can be accomplished,,, I am all for it!

you can plug iPod to see and listen through AUX/RCA input but you cannot control your iPod from the radio.

Not a big difference between the units..
The difference in wiring is only for XM radio module for the G8/us market.
You get an extra input and power for the XM module..

you can plug iPod to see and listen through AUX/RCA input but you cannot control your iPod from the radio.

OK, so you are talking about the rear input then? Well, I guess that would apply to the front one too.

My question is, with this "HMI Human Machine Interface", that is supposed to be on the 2009's, will we be able to control iPods or is that strictly for bluetooth?

JHP (jhp.com.au DBA www.g8partsdirect.com) now officially picked up production and distribution of that item. Pricing is not finalized, we need to get proper connectors and finish product development. That product is expected to be complete plug and play.

What's the latest? I cant find back up sensors that match my paint.

I plan on taking my camcorder, mounting it to my trunk, turn the viewfinder so it face the rear window, then look through it. Anyone think that would work? lol

I am more interested in that wing. You got any side shots of your car with the wing? Like to see what it looks like. I personally do not think the stock one is aggresive enough.

yes and no
the top connector on the side of the radio has video input as well as RBG input.


Which pins are the RGB? Can any of you guys that actually have the connectors post any more info about them? Dimensions? Any Molded in numbers? Close up pics? They have to be something that would be available from Mouser (http://www.mouser.com/) or Digikey (http://www.digikey.com/). Upon initial inspection the main plug body looks like a standard "header" plug. The part that looks like it surrounds or holds the "header" plug looks funny.

I may have found a source for the plugs and contacts and they are dirt cheap. I ordered some and they should be here sometime in the next week or so. If they work will post part numbers and where I found them.

After some help from a member at www.mp3car.com (http://www.mp3car.com) the connectors do have part numbers and should be available. They are made by Tyco Electronics under their AMP brand. They are part of the Micro Quadlock System (MQS). (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=FEAT&BML=10000-M&LG=1)

Video In: 1-1355350-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=1-1355350-1&RQPN=1-1355350-1) and 1355348-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=1355348-1&RQPN=1355348-1#features)
Rear Aux-In: 1394048-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&PID=385717&PN=1394048-1) and 1-1355524-3 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=PPROP&P=239&BML=10000-M&LG=1&IDS=178548,178566,178567&N=1) (black) or 2-1355524-3 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=PPROP&P=239&BML=10000-M&LG=1&IDS=178548,178566,178567&N=2) (white as shown in NoLimit's pics) or 9-1355524-3 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=PPROP&P=239&BML=10000-M&LG=1&IDS=178548,178566,178567&N=3) (blue)

Pin Sockets for both: [20-23 AWG] 963726-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=963726-1&RQPN=963726-1) and [20-18.5 AWG] 963729-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=963729-1&RQPN=963729-1)

Don't know if these match the BMW parts that I ordered from Pelican.

The 12 position plug is available on ebay if you search for MQS.

The hardest part is finding the Connector, the rest can be bought at radio shack I imagine. I mean it would cost a crazy amount to buy somthing from Au, and ship it. I bet you could build this setup for about $15........

After some help from a member at www.mp3car.com (http://www.mp3car.com) the connectors do have part numbers and should be available. They are made by Tyco Electronics under their AMP brand. They are part of the Micro Quadlock System (MQS). (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=FEAT&BML=10000-M&LG=1)

Video In: 1-1355350-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=1-1355350-1&RQPN=1-1355350-1) and 1355348-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=1355348-1&RQPN=1355348-1#features)
Rear Aux-In: 1394048-1 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&PID=385717&PN=1394048-1) and 1-1355524-3 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=PPROP&P=239&BML=10000-M&LG=1&IDS=178548,178566,178567&N=1) (black) or 2-1355524-3 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=PPROP&P=239&BML=10000-M&LG=1&IDS=178548,178566,178567&N=2) (white as shown in NoLimit's pics) or 9-1355524-3 (http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=11689&M=PPROP&P=239&BML=10000-M&LG=1&IDS=178548,178566,178567&N=3) (blue)

Don't know if that is what Pelican is sending. Don't know what pin sockets yet though. The 12 position plug is available on ebay if you search for MQS.

Very impressive! I already saved a copy of this information just in case it gets deleted :wink2:

Let us know how it turns out.

Edited to add socket part numbers as well. If the BMW part numbers from Pelican don't work out finding a source may be tough.

im registered @ tycoelectronics

BUT - No distributors have reported inventory for any of part #s listed

Ok so to get this to work we'd have to do what?
order the plugs, some cable and ANY 3rd party 'backup cam'?
Any tips on how/where to install it in the trunk?

update bump?

According to the online order tracking @ Pelican they are waiting for one of the plug covers.

Well I emailed Blaupunkt and this is what i got in reply...


RE: Customer contact‏
From: Villafuerte Luis (CM-AS/SAS-NA) (Luis.Villafuerte@us.bosch.com)
To:

The unit does not have a specific model name because it is an originalequipment unit. Due to safety concerns there is no option to input avideo signal into the unit.

Luis Villafuerte


Robert Bosch LLCBlaupunkt Technical Advisor - AM/SCM12800 South 25th Avenue - Broadview IL 60131Phone: 800.950.2528
luis@blaupunktusa.com
www.blaupunktusa.com (http://www.blaupunktusa.com)

I emsiled them also the same guy responded told me i was going to have to get that info from GM. Said he didn't have access to diagrams or anything.. Personally ii think its B.S. they won't give the info!!!:cursin:

Any updates on the JHP version?

anybody have any extra pins? I received my connectors for the aux in connections but pins are 10-15 weeks on back order!!!

back order??
http://www.jhp.com.au/g8partsdirect/VideoInMotion.htm