But it will be leaving again on monday... :cry: for more product development at Borla. Heres some pictures of the blower. It will be going on the dyno tomorrow and I will post the numbers straight away.

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/G8_Blower-800.jpg

Is that the "Black or Powder"?

Is that the "Black or Powder"?

Thats polished:p

Man oh Man

oh man, can't wait to see the numbers

Looks absolutely amazing!

im coming on saturday, to see my baby of course, but also expecting hot laps.

Saturday? There's no Saturdays?

looks good, someone needs to come up with some valve covers to finish off the look under the hood.

looks good, someone needs to come up with some valve covers to finish off the look under the hood.

do you mean coil covers?????

Read them and weep boys.

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/BlownG8Dyno.jpg

Wow. Nice.

132 HP gain. Not bad guys. Notice how it doesn't level off at 6000 RPM but keeps rising. This thing could use a cam.

HAHA I witnessed that run.....

that car is BADA**!!!!!!

What else is done to the car performance wise? Those numbers look promising.

What else is done to the car performance wise? Those numbers look promising.

ITS STOCK!!!!!

(for now)

Thanks, just wanted to confirm.

Impressive numbers for a what it is. 157 hp from the initial stock dyno to the wheels is impressive anyway you cut it. With exhaust and some bolt ons and the same psi this could be a 500whp package.

Whats the psi for this setup?

440 ft/lbs at 3K FAWK!!!!!


That'll get that beast movin!

Whats the psi for this setup?

its only 6psi!!!!!!

and theres A LOT more potential!!!!!:gears:

FYI its doing 5psi at only 3K!!!

its only 6psi!!!!!!

and theres A LOT more potential!!!!!:gears:

FYI its doing 5psi at only 3K!!!

Thanks for the info.

wow guys that sound freaking great i just have to save money to be able to buy these toy any info on price

Hey Mike,

specs looks good. I assume this is with the stock maggie program?? Full boost comes fairly quickly. Really drops off after 4500rpm. I am looking forward seeing what your magic can do.

I did chat with Pete on our discussion on having a G8 challenge between yours and petes with his pro charger. Pete already has several magazines that want to do articles. Once he is on the Power Tour, wow, look out!!.

When are you going to finish the rest of the suspension. As talented of a driver as you are, it will be important to get a front tower brace. Pedders is working on one, but not sure when it will be available

We need to have a Pedders day very soon!!

great job

mike
dms

im seeing a lost of 132 HP :)

looks very clean guys. CONGRATS, great numbers, im sure with some bolt on, H/C combo, thing will be a street king.

just wondering about where is the intercooler at?

Awesome gains! I'd love to have a kit on mine.

What's going to break first with that kind of addition of torque and HP?

https://www.zzperformance.com/products_img/145_2.jpg
does it come with a intercooler like this that goes below the blower, is that already built in??? just curious...

The intercooler is located under the supercharger.

The intercooler is located under the supercharger.

Yes, people mix this up all the time (I know I did when I was a newbie).

The intercooler is under the blower, between the supercharger and the intake to the motor.

The heat exchanger (sometimes abbreviated as H/E) is in front of the radiator, behind the grille.

The intercooler cools the intake air temperature, the heat exchanger cools the water that was heated up from cooling down the intake air. :judge:

very nice!

What else is done to the car performance wise? Those numbers look promising.

Pedders shocks and springs. As far as power modifications the blower is the only thing we have done so far. Headers/Exhaust coming soon...

Steve

wow guys that sound freaking great i just have to save money to be able to buy these toy any info on price

As soon as we know you will know. We are waiting for pricing data from Magnuson.

Steve

So, I see the power increase at the wheels... Are we accounting for a lack of a 1:1 gear in the tranny? What gear are you doing these pulls in?

nice mike....wanna race?



;-)

nice mike....wanna race?



;-)

get some drag radials and go for it mike!!!!!:turbonaughtdy_1:

nice mike....wanna race?



;-)

I'll race ya.....Ever been smoked by a pick up?:ohsnap1:

I saw an svt throw down 10.4.....I wasn't lined up with him...but yup....fast trucks are badassed!
I'm callin' out Mike and that G8 though.....if it's all the same to you...LOL!!!

I wish they made one for the F-body

Hey Holden, I'm in line first to race you. :) I think I'm owed a race considering I dont have the goat anymore. You can pick, G8 or Vette. :)

price?

Hey Holden, I'm in line first to race you. :) I think I'm owed a race considering I dont have the goat anymore. You can pick, G8 or Vette. :)

The only question is how many cameras we can get on it...LOL!!

I'm in!:ohsnap1::boink:

The only question is how many cameras we can get on it...LOL!!

I'm in!:ohsnap1::boink:

IM THERE!!!!:secret:

Flywheel hp? That's either RWHP or it seems very much off. :eek2:

Assuming it is RWHP, and based on the ratio of 326:361, the engine should be making 505hp at crank, correct? and almost 500lb-ft?

Flywheel hp? That's either RWHP or it seems very much off. :eek2:

Assuming it is RWHP, and based on the ratio of 326:361, the engine should be making 505hp at crank, correct? and almost 500lb-ft?

thats 458 RWHP.... and about 500HP at the crank....

stock everything (exhaust... headers....etc)

thats 458 RWHP.... and about 500HP at the crank....

stock everything (exhaust... headers....etc)

If it's 458 RWHP then it's closer to 550 HP at the flywheel.

550 FWHP x .83 (17% drivetrain loss) = 456.5 RWHP

Flywheel hp? That's either RWHP or it seems very much off. :eek2:

Assuming it is RWHP, and based on the ratio of 326:361, the engine should be making 505hp at crank, correct? and almost 500lb-ft?

for some reason all of the dyna pak dynos display "flywheel HP". I THINK it might be because of the way they work....they are a HUB dyno, do the rear wheels are removed and the axle is bolted to the dyno.

If it's 458 RWHP then it's closer to 550 HP at the flywheel.

550 FWHP x .83 (17% drivetrain loss) = 456.5 RWHP
The stock car (which Pontiac says is 361hp) dynoed at 326.5hp, giving a 9.56% loss. Factor that back into the new figure and 458.5 / 90.44% = 507hp

The stock car (which Pontiac says is 361hp) dynoed at 326.5hp, giving a 9.56% loss. Factor that back into the new figure and 458.5 / 90.44% = 507hp

Who dyno'd at that? I haven't seen anyone close to that yet without a tune.

I REALLY REALLY want this. :drool:

I thought the cars stock are closer to 298-300 rwhp...also...automatics are closer to 17-18% drivetrain loss ..manuals 12-15% loss are they not...?? Im not an engineer but thats what the guy at the dealer quoted...
(ASE..Master GM mechanic)

Who dyno'd at that? I haven't seen anyone close to that yet without a tune.

I REALLY REALLY want this. :drool:

I thought the cars stock are closer to 298-300 rwhp...also...automatics are closer to 17-18% drivetrain loss ..manuals 12-15% loss are they not...?? Im not an engineer but thats what the guy at the dealer quoted...
(ASE..Master GM mechanic)
This is on the first page. The lower lines are stock and upper lines are supercharged. I think the numbers are significantly higher because, as BlownChevy said, "they are a HUB dyno, [so] the rear wheels are removed and the axle is bolted to the dyno".

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/BlownG8Dyno.jpg

Guys, the bottom line is simple.....Bolt the supercharger on and you will see a 120 rwhp gain. Debating dyno numbers is crazy.

BlownChevy, any idea when this package will be available?

BlownChevy, any idea when this package will be available?

We are shooting for a July release date.

We are shooting for a July release date.

Cool!!!!! That's about the time I will be picking up a G8...

haha, i forsee a lot of friendly competition at the next haddad gtg

haha, i forsee a lot of friendly competition at the next haddad gtg

which is when?

Guys, the bottom line is simple.....Bolt the supercharger on and you will see a 120 rwhp gain. Debating dyno numbers is crazy.

exactly. Same car, same dyno, same formulas, etc. The difference is an approximate representation of predictable gains.

What will the supercharger kit cost???


Thanks

What will the supercharger kit cost???


Thanks

About six BILLION DOLLARS!!! http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/50/2480623.jpg

What will the supercharger kit cost???


Thanks

I'm really hoping it isn't one of those "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" deals. If it falls into a certain threshold, the "better half" will let me buy it.

I'm really hoping it isn't one of those "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" deals. If it falls into a certain threshold, the "better half" will let me buy it.

what is that "certain threshold"?

what is that "certain threshold"?

Less then I paid for the rock on her finger :)

In all seriousness. Under $6000 would be a nice start. When you start considering what a shop (I'm on the east coast) is going to charge to install this (no time to do it myself, otherwise I would), you're getting real close to the magical 5 figure number, which is not going to happen.

I think in the $4500 range, he'd sell as many as could be made...

We are actively working on the parts list so we can set pricing.

Less then I paid for the rock on her finger :)

In all seriousness. Under $6000 would be a nice start. When you start considering what a shop (I'm on the east coast) is going to charge to install this (no time to do it myself, otherwise I would), you're getting real close to the magical 5 figure number, which is not going to happen.

I think in the $4500 range, he'd sell as many as could be made...


Under 6K would be nice....

We are actively working on the parts list so we can set pricing.

Step 1: Set price at $4500
Step 2: Buy stock in Bridgestone/Goodyear
Step 3: PROFIT!

Less then I paid for the rock on her finger :)

In all seriousness. Under $6000 would be a nice start. When you start considering what a shop (I'm on the east coast) is going to charge to install this (no time to do it myself, otherwise I would), you're getting real close to the magical 5 figure number, which is not going to happen.

I think in the $4500 range, he'd sell as many as could be made...

Just an FYI a GTO kit retails for 6600.00 and it is one of our most popular kits.

Less then I paid for the rock on her finger :)

In all seriousness. Under $6000 would be a nice start. When you start considering what a shop (I'm on the east coast) is going to charge to install this (no time to do it myself, otherwise I would), you're getting real close to the magical 5 figure number, which is not going to happen.

I think in the $4500 range, he'd sell as many as could be made...

Isn't the GTO kit $6500 or so?

I don't think 4500 is very realistic.

We are actively working on the parts list so we can set pricing.

hows that coming brian? do you guys have an ETA yet?

By the way... Are you guys gunna be using the same system (mp1900) in the 2010 camaro or a different one? Assuming it comes with a LS3...

thanks

hows that coming brian? do you guys have an ETA yet?

By the way... Are you guys gunna be using the same system (mp1900) in the 2010 camaro or a different one? Assuming it comes with a LS3...

thanks

I am shooting for a july release.

a ROUGH estimate on the Suggested Retail is $6909.00 for a powder coated system. $7900 for polished. These numbers are subject to changes +/- once I have the official parts list.

okay, but what will it cost to have it installed? And where, in Central PA, can someone find a reputable mechanic to install something like this? Any ideas?

okay, but what will it cost to have it installed? And where, in Central PA, can someone find a reputable mechanic to install something like this? Any ideas?

my estimates would be 600-800 for the install.

I don't think 4500 is very realistic.

I know, I was being facetious... You know, price it well below what its worth, it'll sell more then he can make...

I was expecting around $6000.

my estimates would be 600-800 for the install.

In PA, probably cheaper. Everything is cheaper in PA.

Just an FYI a GTO kit retails for 6600.00 and it is one of our most popular kits.

Did you say GTO kit??? <grin> Oh, you're talkin 'bout
da 112.
This is for the 1900 series. How much extra for da 2300?

hows that coming brian? do you guys have an ETA yet?

By the way... Are you guys gunna be using the same system (mp1900) in the 2010 camaro or a different one? Assuming it comes with a LS3...

thanks

?????????????????????

wow....$7k, I think a lot of us were hoping for something a little better. :-(

wow....$7k, I think a lot of us were hoping for something a little better. :-(

Supply vs Demand
They control supply, AFAIK they are one of two companies with a working kit. So they are THE market leaders.

As more kits come into the market, prices will adjust. Its all about them finding the perfect price/manufacturing compromise. So long as they keep able buyers willing to pay set prices.... $$$$

wow....$7k, I think a lot of us were hoping for something a little better. :-(

hit up Haddad when the kits are available...

mike already bought the first 15 kits...

so im pretty sure he will have some kind of deal...

(better than paying msrp... right?)

Pick up a blower and get the track official to do one of these.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u140/midiman1962/Funnies/TrackofficialbowstotheGTObig.gif

Man I miss Palmdale :whine:

Man I miss Palmdale :whine:

Me too.....:judge:

Pickin up the car from Borla tomorrow at 3pm.

I'm stoked.

As far as i know we are getting it back with just the cat back on the car. They had some issues with the long tubes so I'm not sure whats going to become of that. They also made shorties but I'm still going to be on stock manifolds for now.

We will be putting one of our custom tunes on the car Friday night and the car will be at the Drag strip on Monday.

So stay tuned for some #'s

Thanks
Mike Haddad

This is the event of the Spring in my book. :driving:

Make sure you get more than one person getting video so there are no excuses for not having video up on Tuesday morning. :judge:

**** thanks for reminding me to get the camera and tripod ready.

I've so busy getting everything all prepped I forgot all about that.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

**** thanks for reminding me to get the camera and tripod ready.

I've so busy getting everything all prepped I forgot all about that.

Thanks
Mike Haddad
No sweat man...tear it up. :gears:

Borla made an exhaust for the G8? Any pictures?

Borla made an exhaust for the G8? Any pictures?

Soon!

Can't wait for pics of the Borla set-up. I've always loved their sound and can't wait for pics and vids of the set-up to see if it delivers as expected.

(twiddles thumbs) waiting......show me da money shot!!!!