I got a quote from my local exaust shop for full exaust from the Cats back and 2 mufflers, said it was all stainless steel and for the system alone it would be right under $1000 plus labor.

Is that a good price for a full magnaflow system???

I got a quote from my local exaust shop for full exaust from the Cats back and 2 mufflers, said it was all stainless steel and for the system alone it would be right under $1000 plus labor.

Is that a good price for a full magnaflow system???

Magnaflow sells their full system in what looks like aluminized steel for 565 or so... All mandrel bent too!

Umm Where?? this is all I could Find

http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=AMML&id=4290

First, go to another exhaust shop. Then have them replace the mufflers only. Should be much cheaper than even the magnaflow cat-back systems.

Checkout hottexhaust.com. There is a coupon that you can use to get it delivered for around $574.

With AFM, I would rather go with a developed exhaust system by a professional company who has spent R&D dollars resolving drone, exhaust flow, and overall sound quality of the system. For what you get with the Magnaflow system for $57x shipped, it's a darn good deal. I'm sorry but unless you have a very high end exhaust shop in the area with CNC mandrel benders and excellent welders, I'd steer clear. I have tried that route at two different shops in my home town, and both times the price was excessive and the workmanship was crap.

i think $1000 is a little high for everything. wait a little longer and more exhausts will come out. just like the intakes. if you wait, then the prices of the items should fall. when there is only 2 intakes, they dont have to sell them cheap

i think $1000 is a little high for everything. wait a little longer and more exhausts will come out. just like the intakes. if you wait, then the prices of the items should fall. when there is only 2 intakes, they dont have to sell them cheap

Don't be confused by MSRP ... it is a suggested retail price. It would be the equivalent of buying a car at sticker price MSRP. At Magnaflow we do not sell direct to the public and as such we only provide a suggested value. Should market pressures drive prices down (as is the case here) the pricing is usually 25-40% lower than suggested.

With AFM, I would rather go with a developed exhaust system by a professional company who has spent R&D dollars resolving drone, exhaust flow, and overall sound quality of the system. For what you get with the Magnaflow system for $57x shipped, it's a darn good deal. I'm sorry but unless you have a very high end exhaust shop in the area with CNC mandrel benders and excellent welders, I'd steer clear. I have tried that route at two different shops in my home town, and both times the price was excessive and the workmanship was crap.

I paid 1100 dollars for my Vmax motorcycle exhaust 4-2 so 575 or what ever it is, is cheap IMO!:)

With AFM, I would rather go with a developed exhaust system by a professional company who has spent R&D dollars resolving drone, exhaust flow, and overall sound quality of the system. For what you get with the Magnaflow system for $57x shipped, it's a darn good deal. I'm sorry but unless you have a very high end exhaust shop in the area with CNC mandrel benders and excellent welders, I'd steer clear. I have tried that route at two different shops in my home town, and both times the price was excessive and the workmanship was crap.

Agree.......go with something that has testing behind it. Cabin drone is not your friend, believe me.

JET

You can get Magnaflows catback for under 600 bucks and it shouldn't be too difficult for the novice to install by the looks of it. IMO you can't beat that kind of deal.

Summit

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?SearchType=Make&N=700+4294755933+4294908153+4294752071+115+4294923 429

$572

Any decent shop should be able to hang this thing in about an hour.

wonder how long before corsa, borla, flowmaster and SLP start rollin theres out

Summit

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?SearchType=Make&N=700+4294755933+4294908153+4294752071+115+4294923 429

$572

Any decent shop should be able to hang this thing in about an hour.




It looks like no X-pipe with these? I wonder why? Kinda sucks all the G8 stuff is considerably more expensive than the Mustang, Camaro, etc. products.

It looks like no X-pipe with these? I wonder why? Kinda sucks all the G8 stuff is considerably more expensive than the Mustang, Camaro, etc. products.

X-Pipe is a standard feature of this system.

X-Pipe is a standard feature of this system.


+1

The x is right after the cats.

+1

The x is right after the cats.

Exactly, where it can do the most good.

X-Pipe is a standard feature of this system.


When you pull up the link to summits site it doesn't list the x-pipe. There were some photos in a different thread with the x-pipe and then later in the same thread without one. Which made it to production?

When you pull up the link to summits site it doesn't list the x-pipe. There were some photos in a different thread with the x-pipe and then later in the same thread without one. Which made it to production?


Here's the link to that thread:

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1812&page=2

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showpost.php?p=34768&postcount=46

I have not seen anything that the X-pipe was removed. It would not make a whole lot of sense to remove it, and in this post it states the 2.5" system is going to production.

Here's the link to that thread:

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1812&page=2

They both have X-pipes and looking at your pictures I think you are just having a hard time seeing it due to the angle the picture was taken.

They both have X-pipes and looking at your pictures I think you are just having a hard time seeing it due to the angle the picture was taken.


Perhaps....but in the one with the 3" exhaust next to it, there seems to be no x-pipe. It seems like an h-pipe variant. No big deal either way, I'm sure if it needs to be there it will be there.




EDIT: added a pic of what I'm talking about.

Ok this very confusing....I go to Magnaflow web site, they list the part number 16795, for the cat back sytem, but when you got to their supppliers, non of them list it and i can't find a direct link to buy it now! What gives, did i miss something...help! I want to buy it now!

Ok this very confusing....I go to Magnaflow web site, they list the part number 16795, for the cat back sytem, but when you got to their supppliers, non of them list it and i can't find a direct link to buy it now! What gives, did i miss something...help! I want to buy it now!

Dont buy from Magnaflow Direct. As I found out they are like $500 more expensive than other places.

Should be $500-$600

Ok this very confusing....I go to Magnaflow web site, they list the part number 16795, for the cat back sytem, but when you got to their supppliers, non of them list it and i can't find a direct link to buy it now! What gives, did i miss something...help! I want to buy it now!

Both Summit dot com and Hottexhaust dot com have the system listed in their online catalog.

Use coupon code fordtruck8 at hottexhaust for the special price, $574ish

I call your attention to X-Force with electrically controlled variable flow (VAREX). This appears to be the gold standard in OZ for exhausts.

http://www.xforce.com.au/cars/view_car/38

Ya, and it comes with a heafty $$. My pockets aren't that deep.. :-)

I found the Magnaflow system on Summits website, 579....is that good? Says it's the complete sytems, no photo. Is it stainless steel throughtout or ...??

Anybody have any thoughts?

Ok damage was done. Exhaust on order. I'll post my comments/pic/installation stuff once i get them....if anybody is interested.

whoa it says estimated ship date 6/13/ from summit.

ya, they are selling them fast!

It was 6/10 the other day :/

I'm going out of town so can't order mine for 2 or 3 weeks. Hopefully they have stock then.

Too bad I just bought wheels and have no $ left. I have a $30 savings card for Summit but expires the end of this month!

Well give me your summit card bro...i still want to buy some stuff! Don't let it expire!

Dont buy from Magnaflow Direct. As I found out they are like $500 more expensive than other places.

Should be $500-$600

As i posted earlier in this thread, you cannot buy anything from Magnaflow direct. The prices listed are not retail but MSRP and only to be used as a guidline. Distributors will have retail pricing and provide parts well under MSRP. Check with the site sponsors at the left.

Oxidzr, the system is full stainless right? Someone said aluminized but I thought it was stainless!

Oxidzr, the system is full stainless right? Someone said aluminized but I thought it was stainless!

All Magnaflow offerings are entierly stainless now. We stopped offering Aluminized Steel mufflers along side the Stainless ones some three years ago and now just offer mirror finish and satin. Magnaflow cat-backs have been stainless for nearly 10 years.

oxidizr, how is the quiet system developing? Will it have different mufflers and/or a resontator in the middle?

Thanks

oxidizr, how is the quiet system developing? Will it have different mufflers and/or a resontator in the middle?

Thanks

I will be validating these parts with first article production pieces when we do the Performance Cat-pipes in the next few weeks. We have had a prototype of the "quiet" system in use for neraly 3 weeks for evaluation purposes.

Have sound and power figures been measured for the quite system?

Thanks

So does anyone have the Magnaflow cat-backs in Stock?

So does anyone have the Magnaflow cat-backs in Stock?

We just got our first shipment of magnaflow systems in stock.

They will be shipped out the day that they are ordered.

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/cat...795-p-166.html

Please feel free to call or email us with any questions you may have.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

We just got our first shipment of magnaflow systems in stock.

They will be shipped out the day that they are ordered.

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/cat...795-p-166.html

Please feel free to call or email us with any questions you may have.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

What is your price on these systems?
Thanks,
- Ray
Sorry if I missed it in any previous post.....

$759.99 in that link!

$759.99 in that link!

Yes sir
They are in stock and ready to move.

Please let us know if any one has them cheaper than we do.
(Ebay is not a shop)

We will do our best to price match and/or beat anyones advertised price.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Yes sir
They are in stock and ready to move.

Please let us know if any one has them cheaper than we do.
(Ebay is not a shop)

We will do our best to price match and/or beat anyones advertised price.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

i don't know if you count matching other places' coupons, or if they have to have them in stock, but the price at hottexhaust w/ coupon code was a good amount less than 759...

i don't know if you count matching other places' coupons, or if they have to have them in stock, but the price at hottexhaust w/ coupon code was a good amount less than 759...

I just paid $578.00 at hotexhaust includes shipping. I had to use a coupon.

--Mike

I just paid $578.00 at hotexhaust includes shipping. I had to use a coupon.

--Mike

Thanks Guys

I'm going to have to look into what we can do about pricing.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

I believe Summit is a good deal less too.

I believe Summit is a good deal less too.

Summit's price is similar to HottExhaust with the coupon.

Summit's price is similar to HottExhaust with the coupon.

Im seeing $801.95 on the summit website...

Steve

Im seeing $801.95 on the summit website...

Steve


apparently it just went up...

I bet MagnaFlow raised their wholesale price.

went to hottehaust.com as well and goggled a coupon code and paid $574 with shipping arriving June 2nd via Fedex

Damn. My wife would freak if I got one just before vacation (yea, I mentioned it). I guess peace and quiet is going to cost me $200 +. Oh well, I've paid more fore less....

Im seeing $801.95 on the summit website...


Wow, I ordered last week for $572.00 minus a $30.00 gift card.

She changed her mind!
$578.78 total. Didn't get a ship date yet.

went to hottehaust.com as well and goggled a coupon code and paid $574 with shipping arriving June 2nd via Fedex

Aw man, you suck! (just kidding) :)


She changed her mind!
$578.78 total. Didn't get a ship date yet.

You too! (just kidding, of course) :)



-------> I love how this Magnaflow Cat-back exhaust system sounds. Like an exotic car type exhaust. I should just order this system myself and then face the wrath of my wife.......

Well I bit the Bullit, and got it from hottexhaust for 574 witht he coupon code. We will see if it goes through since it looks like summit raised the price.

I just ordered mine for my 2009 which I won't have for another couple of months...:( I couldn't beat the deal though... 578.78 shipped to my door from Hott!

I hope it'll fit now though...:judge:

I just went to Fed-Ex's tracking site and my Magnaflow is as they state " On The Truck for Delivery". I can't wait I am going to get it installed TODAY......

I just went to Fed-Ex's tracking site and my Magnaflow is as they state " On The Truck for Delivery". I can't wait I am going to get it installed TODAY......

Cool :) Still waiting to hear from HottExhaust as to when mine will ship. Seems they got a lot of orders recently, sure would be nice if they have a roomful of these things waiting to ship....

Mine still pending, got it through Summit though...

I ordered mine through Hottexhaust.com on Friday. I received an email that it should ship from San Diego this coming Friday.

I called HottExhaust this morning. They said they thought I was going to get really lucky on mine. Apparently someone had received one in Orlando who was not supposed to and it was going to be rerouted to me (closest pending order I guess). Waiting for confirmation tonight by email but very hopeful.

They've got two months to ship mine so they better hurry up!

LOL

:)

Thanks Guys

I'm going to have to look into what we can do about pricing.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Hi Mike, Any word if you guys can do a price match with Hottexhaust for $578 shipped? Thx:confused:

I got mine today at Noon the Fed-Ex guy was really impressed with the G8. I guess he had not seen one in person yet. I had just finished putting my 6th coat of Z2 on it when he rolled up. I have an appointment tomorrow at 9 to get it put on. I will try and post up a video as soon as it is done.

Hey, for those lucky ones who have received already, how big and heavy is the box? Will it fit in our trunks?

Hey, for those lucky ones who have received already, how big and heavy is the box? Will it fit in our trunks?

It is about 85 pounds so not that heavy but it is long. It will not fit in any way in the trunk and I tried to get it in the back seat and it was 4 inches too long.

So my father-in-law is taking it to the exhaust shop for me. If I was at all mechanicly competent i would just install it myself but unfortunatly that is not me...

It is about 85 pounds so not that heave but it is long. It will not fit in any way in the trunk and I tried to get it in the back seat and it was 4 inches too long.

So my father-in-law is taking it to the exhaust shop for me. If I was at all mechanicly competent i would just install it myself but unfortunatly that is not me...

Damn, I was afraid that was going to be the answer. I will need to have mine installed too. I have the mechanical skills but no lift, ramps, jackstands etc.

My wife has a Ford Explorer, maybe I can jam it in there somehow, tie it to the roof if nothing else :)

Thanks much for the reply!

Hott said they are shipping from magnaflow direct this thursday 6/5 So i wont get it to next Thursday.... Worth the wait though

Damn, I was afraid that was going to be the answer. I will need to have mine installed too. I have the mechanical skills but no lift, ramps, jackstands etc.

My wife has a Ford Explorer, maybe I can jam it in there somehow, tie it to the roof if nothing else :)

Thanks much for the reply!

I think if it's out of the box it would fit. Even if you have to stick the pipes through the passthrough.

I'm going to try to get it in my Camry today...

I just got my set installed today and it sounds great! Really nice low rumble to it. Very happy with the kit. The local place that installed it did say that they had to cut the one pipe a bit to make the exhaust tips line up properly.

I just got my set installed today and it sounds great! Really nice low rumble to it. Very happy with the kit. The local place that installed it did say that they had to cut the one pipe a bit to make the exhaust tips line up properly.
Any way you can get a video or sound clip posted sometime soon? I'm ready to pull the trigger on a system like this, but want to hear as many samples as possible.

I installed my catbacks using a lift it took about 2hrs. start to finish, did it by myself,piece of cake ! Hardest part was removing o2 sensors from stock pipes , had to heat pipe to remove them . the thread on the sensor is 18-1.25 mm if you have to clean up o2 threads ,luckly I didn't but I did have one on standby. O2 sensor $100 ea.

I just got my set installed today and it sounds great! Really nice low rumble to it. Very happy with the kit. The local place that installed it did say that they had to cut the one pipe a bit to make the exhaust tips line up properly.

I installed mine yesterday and I noticed this as well on the drivers side. I'm gonna have to trim that piece on mine too....hopefully it won't be too hard to undo.

BTW, I have pics here:
http://www.davetech.net/pics/g8gt/temp/

And a Vid here:
http://www.davetech.net/vids/g8-magnaflow.wmv

For the folks that are getting these installed by Midas or other local shops; what are you paying for the install please?

And a Vid here:
http://www.davetech.net/vids/g8-magnaflow.wmv

That sounds real good when you fire it up but, its hard to hear the ture sound of the exhaust/revs cuz the cam mic it too close. Would it be to much trouble to make a 2nd vid w/ the cam on the side or way back? :)

Nice job on the install BTW :cool:

Damn, I was afraid that was going to be the answer. I will need to have mine installed too. I have the mechanical skills but no lift, ramps, jackstands etc.

My wife has a Ford Explorer, maybe I can jam it in there somehow, tie it to the roof if nothing else :)

Thanks much for the reply!

It will fit if unboxed.

It's in the trunk of my Camry right now.

It will fit if unboxed.

It's in the trunk of my Camry right now.

Cool! Thanks!

It should not be more then $175-$200 max to have it installed perfectly. That is what I charge.

If your going to have them installed, have the installer cut a 1/2" off the driver side off the x pipe ,before the install. When finished the pipes will be even .

Thanks guys!

If your going to have them installed, have the installer cut a 1/2" off the driver side off the x pipe ,before the install. When finished the pipes will be even .

It is not recommended you cut any part of the system. The pipes are designed to have 0.25"-0.50" adjustment at each joint. The clamp and slip area only requires the pipe fit in 1.50" into the next pipe to maintain a seal and proper clamping area. The stagger in the pipes was used to make sure that the wrong pipe was not installed on the opposite side.

Simply sliding the pipes out .125"-.250" on each joint on the appearant shorter side will allow the tips to align correctly even or just slightly protruding from the rear fasica. Cutting the pipe may set the tips too far in causing heat damage to the plastic fascia.

For the folks that are getting these installed by Midas or other local shops; what are you paying for the install please?

I paid $50 to have it installed at a local shop near me. Also he did not have to cut any pipe to get them to line up properly. He told me on the drivers side there is about 4 inches of play in that pipe. So he slid that one in further and pulled the other one out slightly. They are perfectly aligned and look and sound great.

I paid $50 to have it installed at a local shop near me. Also he did not have to cut any pipe to get them to line up properly. He told me on the drivers side there is about 4 inches of play in that pipe. So he slid that one in further and pulled the other one out slightly. They are perfectly aligned and look and sound great.

Got any vids of it inside and out?

It is not recommended you cut any part of the system. The pipes are designed to have 0.25"-0.50" adjustment at each joint. The clamp and slip area only requires the pipe fit in 1.50" into the next pipe to maintain a seal and proper clamping area. The stagger in the pipes was used to make sure that the wrong pipe was not installed on the opposite side.

Simply sliding the pipes out .125"-.250" on each joint on the appearant shorter side will allow the tips to align correctly even or just slightly protruding from the rear fasica. Cutting the pipe may set the tips too far in causing heat damage to the plastic fascia.
My pipes were bottomed out at each point on Drivers side only. I tried every possible way on a lift to manipulate it but bottom line is if the pipe can not go any further it must be cut.

Are there any performance figures out on how much HP the exhaust is making? Any pre/post dynos?

My pipes were bottomed out at each point on Drivers side only. I tried every possible way on a lift to manipulate it but bottom line is if the pipe can not go any further it must be cut.

You couldn't pull the passenger side pipes back a bit to match the tips protruding from the rear valance? I'd rather have them sticking out further, than tucked too far under the back of the car.

You couldn't pull the passenger side pipes back a bit to match the tips protruding from the rear valance? I'd rather have them sticking out further, than tucked too far under the back of the car.

The drivers side hanger at the rear diff. was almost hoizontal instead of vertical. I have installed hundreds of exhaust sytems so I know sometimes you have to fanagle one side or the other, but in this case until the pipe was cut the rubber hanger would not hang strait up and down. Charlie

Just got mine installed for $75 plus $25 tip because it was 90 outside and he was sweaty!!
I love the sound and the stock exhaust is HEAVY!!
By the way what should I do to the OEM exhaust ebay it or take it to be recycled??

New car exhausts are nearly impossible to sell. Cars are so new, no one needs one and lots of people just put an aftermarket one on if they have a reason to need one. I still have the exhaust from my 00 S10 Xtreme ex cab in my basement that I took off at about 7K miles. I can't give the damn thing away!

Just got mine installed for $75 plus $25 tip because it was 90 outside and he was sweaty!!
I love the sound and the stock exhaust is HEAVY!!
By the way what should I do to the OEM exhaust ebay it or take it to be recycled??

It's mostly stainless right? I say you scrap it! It's worth sumpin!:)

brings up a question: when they remove the old system is it in many pieces or is it 9 feet long?

it long barely fit in my trailblazer it was touching the back and also touching the dashboard. I think ill scrap it..

brings up a question: when they remove the old system is it in many pieces or is it 9 feet long?

The mufflers come off but that looks like about it... Axle forward is one piece.

Hack saw it up and bring to a scrap yard!

The mufflers come off but that looks like about it... Axle forward is one piece.

Hack saw it up and bring to a scrap yard!

Probably just let the exhaust shop keep it. Doubt there's enough scrap value to equal the hassle factor.

Probably just let the exhaust shop keep it. Doubt there's enough scrap value to equal the hassle factor.

Probably not! It is stainless right? Metal prices are STUPID high!

how much do you guys think we can get for the oem exhaust? I have the same problem, don't know what to do with it...

how much do you guys think we can get for the oem exhaust? I have the same problem, don't know what to do with it...

Nothin'. Zero, zip, nada. 'Less your local scrapyard gives you a few bucks.

Anyone that needs a stock exhaust is probably going to be getting one through an insurance claim and won't be scrounging eBay for a used one.

I am going to throw mine in the attic just encase I need to put it back on in the future.

FYI.. I saw the Magnaflow system in Summit back on 5/15. I had to input the part number as the vehicle listing did not yet show this for the G8. A price of $572.95 came up and I thought "too cheap" for stainless and hit the easy button. As of today (6/6) They still have me on backorder and guess what? The published Summit price is now $801! I'll be patient and wait for my good deal to arrive.

As a secondary note..... I am going to save my OEM stuff.. I am an automotive shop owner in Austin and I am familiar with more than one twitchy story about dealers negating warranty claims due to mods, bolt on or not. Then there is OnStar... Big Brother's data logger.. Can't wait to see how that plays out in the future if at all...

I called HottExhaust this morning. They said they thought I was going to get really lucky on mine. Apparently someone had received one in Orlando who was not supposed to and it was going to be rerouted to me (closest pending order I guess). Waiting for confirmation tonight by email but very hopeful.

Well, my luck didn't hold, at least not good luck. My credit card company bounced the charge as possible fraud (because hottexhaust charges out of Canada) and I didn't find out for quite some time. Finally got that fixed and hottexhaust sent me a tracking number yesterday noonish. Unfortunately it still says "billing information received" and, worst of all, it's UPS so no prayer for the weekend.

Well it looks like my exhaust should be shipping today or tomorrow, I hope. Hottexhaust.com replied and said that the production run was completed and it should ship out in the next day or so. I'd love to install it this weekend if it ships from San Diego in the next couple of days, since it's only a couple days shipping to my location from theirs. My CC was also charged today, so that's a good sign.

I hope your luck is better than mine. Mine was supposed to be redirected from a mistaken shipment right here in Florida. Unfortunately they counted on the other guy to take it to UPS, LAST WEDNESDAY. He still hasn't done so. Hottexhaust is horrible about responding to emails and not much better at returning calls. I realize its not completely their fault but I'm starting to get pretty concerned and a bit pissed at this point. Had I known this was going to happen I would have have made the 300 mile drive to go get the damn thing on Saturday.

For those of you who would like there exhaust in a timely fashion from a reputable source I hear Haddad Motorsports has them in stock. :)

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/cat...795-p-166.html

Thanks
Mike Haddad

For those of you who would like there exhaust in a timely fashion from a reputable source I hear Haddad Motorsports has them in stock. :)

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/cat...795-p-166.html

Thanks
Mike Haddad

I heard that somewhere too and even posted here somewhere...:wink2:

Mike;

What was the final word on the price matching? I know summit went up to 800 and your price is cheaper, but there was a question in another post about matching the 578 price from hot exhaust. I realize that you have them in stock and a better rep, with that you can justify a higher price. What about a group buy though? Perhaps if 10 members were to place orders you could do a further discount?

On another note, how does this system differ from the sf magnaflow set up other than the different tips and an x-pipe rather than a H-pipe? I have seen more than one post about drone when the afm kicks in. The last thing I want is drone so any additional input here would be appreciated. I changed the exhaust set up on my last car 5 times trying to get rid of the drone. I don't want to go through that again.

On another note, how does this system differ from the sf magnaflow set up other than the different tips and an x-pipe rather than a H-pipe? I have seen more than one post about drone when the afm kicks in. The last thing I want is drone so any additional input here would be appreciated. I changed the exhaust set up on my last car 5 times trying to get rid of the drone. I don't want to go through that again.

Many have reported that drone is almost non existent with this system.

This system is a full 2.5" stainless system from the cat back with X pipe. It will allow for power adders later if wanted.:driving:

Its been more than a month, still on backorder through summit...bummer

Received mine yesterday! :driving: Also received the HSRK.

Now I just need to receive the car...:(

Wife just called, FedEx just dropped it off! I can barely keep myself at work until 4:00!

--Mike

For those of you who would like there exhaust in a timely fashion from a reputable source I hear Haddad Motorsports has them in stock. :)

http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/cat...795-p-166.html

Thanks
Mike Haddad

When I click on the link, it says product not found !

Wife just called, FedEx just dropped it off! I can barely keep myself at work until 4:00!

--Mike

Not me, I'm leaving at noon to meet the truck. :) I'll just ride the John Deere for an hour or so til it gets there.

My system took the long route, went from CA to NC by air then by truck back to South Dakota. It's got more miles on it than my car does.

I just checked the MAGNAFLOW warehouse and we show 30 available as of this morning. The first 75 units were gone as soon as they were available and of the second batch of 75 kits built, 30 remain.

You can check availibility online on the website after searching your application. Just click "Check Availibility"

anybody know the difference in weight from the factory exhaust setup to the magnaflow system ?

When I click on the link, it says product not found !


Due to Magnaflow's inability to support there smaller vendors. (Shops such as mine who dyno and promote there products). We are not able to offer this product at a competitive rate.

We believe that Magnaflow makes a good product at a good price.
But they need some work on there business ethics.

So we have decided to simply pull this this particular product (for the time being) off of our website.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

Due to Magnaflow's inability to support there smaller vendors. (Shops such as mine who dyno and promote there products). We are not able to offer this product at a competitive rate.

We believe that Magnaflow makes a good product at a good price.
But they need some work on there business ethics.

So we have decided to simply pull this this particular product (for the time being) off of our website.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

ok, thanks for the response

Due to Magnaflow's inability to support there smaller vendors. (Shops such as mine who dyno and promote there products). We are not able to offer this product at a competitive rate.

We believe that Magnaflow makes a good product at a good price.
But they need some work on there business ethics.

So we have decided to simply pull this this particular product (for the time being) off of our website.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

My family owns a large welding, safety and industrial supply distributorship and we run into this ALL the time Mike. Hey count yourself lucky that they don't sell against you. Lincoln Electric Welders does that ALL the time to their distributors and wonders why people get pissed off!:slap:

Mike, you are confusing 'business ethics' with 'business practice'. And before some people get a wrong impression of MagnaFlow (whether they deserve it or not is not the question)(and unless one of our other supporting vendors besides Mike sells it we shouldn't even be discussing M-F now as they would at this point be NSV)

Business Ethics is where a business says one thing and does another or cheats, lies, steals, provides inferior product at inflated price depending on who is buying.

Business Practice is where a company might offer larger discount or free ship to larger accounts, or pay for advertising for same. Has nothing to do with ethics, just their bottom line.


I do assume you don't include the dyno for free in the msrp of the exhaust, but that you do charge and collect for the service above and beyond that you perform. A customer is expected to pay for that.

Mike, you are confusing 'business ethics' with 'business practice'. And before some people get a wrong impression of MagnaFlow (whether they deserve it or not is not the question)(and unless one of our other supporting vendors besides Mike sells it we shouldn't even be discussing M-F now as they would at this point be NSV)

Business Ethics is where a business says one thing and does another or cheats, lies, steals, provides inferior product at inflated price depending on who is buying.

Business Practice is where a company might offer larger discount or free ship to larger accounts, or pay for advertising for same. Has nothing to do with ethics, just their bottom line.


I do assume you don't include the dyno for free in the msrp of the exhaust, but that you do charge and collect for the service above and beyond that you perform. A customer is expected to pay for that.

New Era offers the Magna Flow system.

Is it still ok to discuss that exhaust?

[rolleyes]

New Era offers the Magna Flow system.

Is it still ok to discuss that exhaust?

[rolleyes]

:)Personally I can't see not discussing anything that is made for the G8 whether a supporter sells it or not.

This IS a G8 forum right? I think we should be able to talk about anything G8 related. I have given two supporters my business so far and have been VERY happy with them. I realize these supporters pay money to be here supporting but they also make money from members here.

It's all good IMO.:)

And before some people get a wrong impression of MagnaFlow (whether they deserve it or not is not the question)(and unless one of our other supporting vendors besides Mike sells it we shouldn't even be discussing M-F now as they would at this point be NSV)

ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?! What is this LS1Tech???? Can't discuss anything unless a sponsor sells it? THAT's BS!!!

ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS?!?!?! What is this LS1Tech???? Can't discuss anything unless a sponsor sells it? THAT's BS!!!


That would make this board nothing more than a paid commercial, when that happens it is the day I move on. I get enough of that crap on TV.

News, TV shows, Movies, and YES internet forums ARE commercials or maybe just another breed of advertising medium. They are not free to run and do have a good deal of work put into them to make them user friendly.

Don't worry though ... MAGNAFLOW is in fact finalizing board sponsorship. Keeping quality forums open to owners is a means of supporting our business interests BUT don't forget I along with a good deal of others employeed by vendors understand having a place to have quality discussion as enthusisasts does mean getting some financial support.

Oxidizer, please ship some stuff to Summit so I can finally receive my exhaust, lol. :whine:

Oxidizer, please ship some stuff to Summit so I can finally receive my exhaust, lol. :whine:

Have summit give us a call we have them in stock. :)

Thanks
Mike Haddad

guys anybody got a hottexhaust coupon to discount less than 500$ orders .. need to order for my friend's 2008 jeep wrangler .. as he was so impressed after he saw and hear the Magnaflow cat back on my G8

Appreciate your help...

mike how much is the cat-back system?

Have summit give us a call we have them in stock.

I would buy from you but like you said, you were unable to match the Summit price. Yea I have to wait, but who cares. Its friggin 115 in Phoenix everyday and it will be 4 months before I go to the track again!:whine:

I would buy from you but like you said, you were unable to match the Summit price. Yea I have to wait, but who cares. Its friggin 115 in Phoenix everyday and it will be 4 months before I go to the track again!:whine:

We are actually cheaper than summit. We have been cheaper than summit from the get go.

Summit price
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?SearchType=Make&N=700+4294755933+4294908153+4294752071+115+4294923 429

HMS price
http://www.haddadmotorsports.com/catalog/magnaflow-carsound-catback-exhaust-system-pontiac-16795-p-166.html

We have these in stock.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

For those of you who have been following this post.

I would like to say thank you to magnaflow for rectifying the issue that i spoke of earlier.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

I understand that you are now cheaper than them; I got the system for $572.00 minus a $30.00 coupon.

I understand that you are now cheaper than them; I got the system for $572.00 minus a $30.00 coupon.

That must have been long before the systems were even slated for release. More than 1 month ago.

Yep! Good to see smaller vendors get them before mega buyers like summit though.

I got my MagnaFlow cat-back installed today. Rather than start a new thread I will just stick my impressions on the end of this one since its still active.

The box it came in was nothing short of huge, weighed almost 80 lbs. Well packed with a big Styrofoam type of pad in there, apparently injected foam. System was perfect although it had surely been bounced around a lot between Magnaflow and here.

Once I got it unpacked I was able to fit it in my trunk quite easily, did not need to use the back seat pass-through (note- the stock one that comes off will not fit in our trunks or any other, you'll need a pickup to get it home).

Local exhaust shop did the install, 2 guys did it in about 45 minutes, no cutting needed but a lot of tweaking and banging to get it lined up in the end. The key to getting the driver's side connected was to remove the rear-most hanger, put it on the muffler then reattach the hanger to the car. Cost me $150 for the install.

As for the sound, it's quieter than I expected. It's a very nice deep mellow sort of tone. When you jump on it the sound gets louder of course but not obnoxiously so. This system should not draw undue police attention or generate noise tickets. As for the often mentioned drone when 4 cyl mode kicks in; I don't know yet. I should find out tomorrow when I drive her to work for the first time. I will also go back to the muffler shop for a torque check tomorrow.

All in all, a very nice system. I'm pleased with mine.

You'll get the buritto gas noise tomorrow! :)

As for the rear hangers, I removed both of mine and slipped them on the mufflers just as you said. No amount of banging would get my drivers side to bolt up, so I did a little cutting and it was like butter. It sounds like the O2 sensors were not a problem?

It is a nice system, and it's not very loud. However I can say in the 400 miles or so since I installed it, it's gotten a bit louder. The exhaust can be over powered by the A/C on Max or Wind Noise. But it sounds pretty refined in V8 mode, V4 mode is well, it is what it is.

The only thing I'm going to do is drop the rear two hangers and perhaps the cross brace, lower the pipes down, mask, and paint the rear of the mufflers with some high temp black paint. I don't like the reflection on the the Magnaflow mufflers under the rear valance, and preferred the OEM look where the system was blacked out. I thought about doing it before hand, and now I should have bitten the bullet and just did it. No biggie, probably will take an hour or so to do both sides one of these days. I believe StolenFox did the same thing for his Axle Backs.

Yea, I was fortunate on the O2 sensors, they both came right out.

Yea, I was fortunate on the O2 sensors, they both came right out.

I cannot see why this issue happens from factory. I have worked on well over 80 GTOs and now about 5 G8's and its hit and miss with the O2's. Some are tight but spin right out and others I need to use a tap and die on afterwards to salvage them. It seems to be a issue isolated to the import GM line (AUS cars.) GM Truck, f-body and y-body just dont have issues with the O2's being over tightened.

Maybe there's one guy at the plant in Oz that it a little over-enthusiastic with his power tools? :wink2:

You'll get the buritto gas noise tomorrow! :)

As for the rear hangers, I removed both of mine and slipped them on the mufflers just as you said. No amount of banging would get my drivers side to bolt up, so I did a little cutting and it was like butter. It sounds like the O2 sensors were not a problem?

It is a nice system, and it's not very loud. However I can say in the 400 miles or so since I installed it, it's gotten a bit louder. The exhaust can be over powered by the A/C on Max or Wind Noise. But it sounds pretty refined in V8 mode, V4 mode is well, it is what it is.

The only thing I'm going to do is drop the rear two hangers and perhaps the cross brace, lower the pipes down, mask, and paint the rear of the mufflers with some high temp black paint. I don't like the reflection on the the Magnaflow mufflers under the rear valance, and preferred the OEM look where the system was blacked out. I thought about doing it before hand, and now I should have bitten the bullet and just did it. No biggie, probably will take an hour or so to do both sides one of these days. I believe StolenFox did the same thing for his Axle Backs.

The "Quiet" system has been approved and looks to serve its purpose very well. The AFM frequency was altered and total volume reduced.

Here is the system with the mid-pipe assembly:
http://www.magnaflow.com/richard/08PontiacG8GT/G8%20GT%20quiet.JPG

Some comparitive sound level data:

Stationary Tailpipe - SAE J1169 testing standards
--------------Stock---16795---"Quiet"
Curb idle -------68------77------74
1500 rpm ------69------84------81
3000 rpm ------77------90------87
3/4 Peak HP ---80------94------88

Driving Interior
--------------Stock---16795---"Quiet"
Acceleration
30-40 mph ----71------79-----75
50-70 mph ----73------75-----74

Cruising
40-50 mph ----70------71-----70
60-70 mph ----72------72-----72

Dyno:

BLUE: MAGNAFLOW 16795 - 326.9 HP / 347.7 LB-FT
RED: MAGNAFLOW "Quiet" - 324.1 HP / 342.2 LB-FT

Power Differential between Standard and and Quiet (2.8 HP / 5.5 LB-FT)

STOCK: 313 HP / 333 LB-FT
QUIET: 324.1 HP / 342.2 LB-FT

Gain Over stock: 11 HP / 9 LB-FT

http://www.magnaflow.com/richard/08PontiacG8GT/loud%20vs%20quiet.jpg

So is the regular system your "loud" system or is there another higher volume and higher hp /tq system out there from Magnaflow...?

So is the regular system your "loud" system or is there another higher volume and higher hp /tq system out there from Magnaflow...?

Our standard system is a dual 2.5" system and our louder offering. We tested a Dual 3.0" and on the stock calibration and components made negligible increases (1-2 HP) and the noise levels were not acceptable.

We currently offer our standard system and as it looks we will be offering the "quiet" system as a upgrade component and not an entire system. The "quiet" upgrade will replace the center mid-pipes and be a "bolt-on" component. This would then even allow the end user to switch out sound levels / performance levels fairly easily.

The standard system is not overly loud - it sounds perfect to me in a 4dr family sedan. You guys do very nice work and it's really cool to see the product information well in advance. I'm very happy with my system, and the AFM noise doesn't sound great, but like I said there is only so much you can do. It's a trade off I'm good with, given the sound of the system in V8 mode. I'm a very PICKY person, and I find it totally fine. I know full well it doesn't sound that great putting down the freeway, but if anyone says anything I'll hit the go pedal and they'll forget all about that. It's not the exhausts fault the car is built for a tad bit more economy and if gas wasn't the price it is today, I think many would just disable AFM and call it a day. Trust me when I say the Magnaflow system sounds sweet!

The standard system is not overly loud - it sounds perfect to me in a 4dr family sedan. You guys do very nice work and it's really cool to see the product information well in advance. I'm very happy with my system, and the AFM noise doesn't sound great, but like I said there is only so much you can do. It's a trade off I'm good with, given the sound of the system in V8 mode. I'm a very PICKY person, and I find it totally fine. I know full well it doesn't sound that great putting down the freeway, but if anyone says anything I'll hit the go pedal and they'll forget all about that. It's not the exhausts fault the car is built for a tad bit more economy and if gas wasn't the price it is today, I think many would just disable AFM and call it a day. Trust me when I say the Magnaflow system sounds sweet!

I would love to hear your system and compare to mine....I have stock pipes all around on just flows in the rear....very little drone..but very little if any power gain.....
We have the GTG this Saturday in Sacramento in the afternoon...RPM than Hooters (by arden) if your around PM if your able to come by

The standard system is not overly loud - it sounds perfect to me in a 4dr family sedan. You guys do very nice work and it's really cool to see the product information well in advance. I'm very happy with my system, and the AFM noise doesn't sound great, but like I said there is only so much you can do. It's a trade off I'm good with, given the sound of the system in V8 mode. I'm a very PICKY person, and I find it totally fine. I know full well it doesn't sound that great putting down the freeway, but if anyone says anything I'll hit the go pedal and they'll forget all about that. It's not the exhausts fault the car is built for a tad bit more economy and if gas wasn't the price it is today, I think many would just disable AFM and call it a day. Trust me when I say the Magnaflow system sounds sweet!

Glad to hear you are enjoying the system. We tried very hard to find a balance between enough V8 exhaust sound and too much AFM V4 noise.

I just installed the MagnaFlow catback yesterday and definitely love the sound. I had a MagnaFlow catback on my '06 GTO with Stainless Works long tube headers. I never heard or felt the AFM until yesterday and I definitely do not like the noise. I was thinking about having it turned off by Vector Motorsport when I get the FlashExpress tomorrow. I guess you can always go in to manual mode on the transmission and turn it off yourself. What to do, what to do?

It still engages in manual mode.

wish i would have had my G8 when this catback was ~$600. now it's ~$800.:whine:

wish i would have had my G8 when this catback was ~$600. now it's ~$800.:whine:

I bought my exhaust a month ago :) with an ETA on my car of October... :(

I bought my exhaust a month ago :) with an ETA on my car of October... :(i'm gonna hope that somebody gets ARH long-tubes and wants to get rid of their cat-back :wiggle:

Sorry, I don't have the MF cat back, but I will get the ARH system soon.

Sorry, I don't have the MF cat back, but I will get the ARH system soon.

Me too!

Magnaflow Catback: INSTALLED! Thanks a million Charlie aka GRRRR8! Sounds great, looks great and performs even BETTER! The ride home was so much more enjoyable than the ride to Sugar Land!

If you dont have the Magnaflow Catback and you dont intend to go with the American Racing Headers, well what are you waiting for??? GET THE MAGNAFLOW CATBACK!

It sucked driving the G8 Park Ave edition home. I think it was the first time in 2 mos that I turned the radio on!

It sucked driving the G8 Park Ave edition home. I think it was the first time in 2 mos that I turned the radio on!

Having the cat-back lets you feel the car quite a bit more and without it now stock feels ... more stock doesn't it :P

Don't worry the MAGNAFLOW axle backs should be out shortly to give you some sound back until you get the new headers and midpipe.

The car is still fast, but lays down on the top end now. I will wait on the axle backs to be released.

Im hating it, mine still on backorder!! Its been more than a month.

The car is still fast, but lays down on the top end now. I will wait on the axle backs to be released.

The top end pull is definitely noticeable with the cat-back.

The top end pull is definitely noticeable with the cat-back.

Any word?
Thanks,
- Ray
Allergic to 'drone'...