Pete Basica sent this picture to me and requested that I put it on the forums for all to see. It is the firts Procharger install on a G8. Sorry, but I do not have any dyno numbers on it.


pete will give more info on it when he gets home in a couple of days

mike
dms

Can they close the hood? Lol, that's really cool! Hey Pete, hurry up and send Mike info soon!

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1048&d=1211497204

Lookin sharp Pete

We're definetly gona have to do a shoot out at some point between our two cars.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

I hate to ask, but whats cheaper the magnacharger or the procharger?

Lookin sharp Pete

We're definetly gona have to do a shoot out at some point between our two cars.

Thanks
Mike Haddad

I'll put my money on Pete. Sorry Mike.

How much will this run

If its like most other setups, its like $4500-5500. Probably about $1000 cheaper then the roots style blower. HOWEVER... I personally like the roots setup and would be willing to spend an extra $1000 for it. Just my personal preference.

How much and when and where is it available?:oldfogey:

badass!!

I could probably swing $4500... anymore and I would be kicked out the house!!!

Just to give you guys an idea.

If your doing any supercharger system on your car plan on spending at least $6500. and thats if your doing it yourself.

Plan on spending at least $7000-$7500 if your gona have a shop do it.

And the more bells and wistles you add the prices is gona go up.


Thanks
Mike Haddad

Just to give you guys an idea.

If your doing any supercharger system on your car plan on spending at least $6500. and thats if your doing it yourself.

Plan on spending at least $7000-$7500 if your gona have a shop do it.

And the more bells and wistles you add the prices is gona go up.


Thanks
Mike Haddad

Help me out here. I'm trying to spend some money. Not just whistling dixie.

I'm not so sure I'd want my intake in what I'd think would be the hottest possible under hood location (top of the engine compartment, towards the rear, above the exhaust manifold.)

Other than that, looks good.

Honestly, I'm not very impressed with that design. I understand that may be the only way for everything to fit and I'm sure it works fine but I would like to see what the IAT's jump up to with the car sitting in traffic.

I'm not so sure I'd want my intake in what I'd think would be the hottest possible under hood location (top of the engine compartment, towards the rear, above the exhaust manifold.)



I agree. That looks like a real hack-job IMO.

I'm sure it drives like a bat out of Hell though!

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1048&d=1211497204

thanks for putting the picture up for me. I have not figured out how to do that.
And yes, pete can close the hood. Was chatting with him while he was driving, and a loaded gas truck made a very stupid lane change, that annoyed pete, so while I was listening, he pressed the loud pedal, and I could hear him do a 140mph lane change/passing manuever in seconds. I do not know what was standing taller at that moment
Pete will be sending more pictures today. He is traveling, and I will post them ASAP for all of you

thanks
mike
dms

Honestly, I'm not very impressed with that design. I understand that may be the only way for everything to fit and I'm sure it works fine but I would like to see what the IAT's jump up to with the car sitting in traffic.

Have to agree.........WAY too much going on under that hood. Gotta be a better design than this.

JET

this was their first install. they had to make everything. There are a couple of items they are redueing and will be installed later.

I have done a lot of maggies and systems like the procharger and they both act quite different. A Maggie will give you a linear type power curve, whereas the procharger will act like a turbo. I think the installs are fairly similiar in complexity with the procharger maybe being alittle more difficult. But Pete says you can barely hear the procharger, and maggies have their noise. this is good or bad, depending on what your preferences are.

I think it will still be some time before you can buy either system. I know Maggie will put their unit thru CARB testing, which may take 4-6 months.

Both companies are very good companies.

mike
dms

I like it!

They need to figure out how to get fresh air from the hood scoops (assuming that they are large enough).

Mike, did they do that here in KC? I think Procharger is located in Lenexa.

I'm not so sure I'd want my intake in what I'd think would be the hottest possible under hood location (top of the engine compartment, towards the rear, above the exhaust manifold.)

Other than that, looks good.

Where would the hood scoops be located in reference to the location of the intake filter? I would imagine un-plugging the hood scoops would allow quite a bit of cool air to flow over the filter before it gets a chance to heat up.

I'm not so sure I'd want my intake in what I'd think would be the hottest possible under hood location (top of the engine compartment, towards the rear, above the exhaust manifold.)

My thoughts exactly. If you're going to spend that much money for a blower setup, you should at least get the intake where it's not sucking hot air.

I'm sorry but gerbil trails have never impressed me under a hood...at any power level...JMO.

This is the look of OEM. but NOT OEM.


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u140/midiman1962/maggie/Maggiefinished.jpg

My thoughts exactly. If you're going to spend that much money for a blower setup, you should at least get the intake where it's not sucking hot air.

That's a simple fix. True air is something we'll all have to do on our own. No reputable dealer will ever offer it.

I know Maggie will put their unit thru CARB testing, which may take 4-6 months.


Already done ;)

Already done ;)

Aren't you in the wrong thread? If it's already done, when will you be available to the "public"?

Aren't you in the wrong thread? If it's already done, when will you be available to the "public"?

Last I checked this was a public forum:judge: The Magna Charger will be available the beginning of July.

and FYI I was referring to the CARB testing.

Thanks for the update, I think I've heard the "July" part before. Of course it's a public forum, why else would we be here? Don't get in such a tizzy!
CARB is CARB.

Thanks for the update, I think I've heard the "July" part before. Of course it's a public forum, why else would we be here? Don't get in such a tizzy!
CARB is CARB. Didn't you read the rest of my post? "That's a simple fix. True air is something we'll all have to do on our own. No reputable dealer will ever offer it".
Oh, by the way, the little hatchet man. Really.

no tizzy, just another case of the "web" sarcasm not being heard again! The July part is the date........

I like the hatchet man, really!:judge::judge:

Roots setup is way better then that mess. Who the hell wants to pull hot air from right over the manifolds then compress it and make it way hotter

is there an air/air setup on there?

Worth a shot but i think the roots wins in this situation, back to the drawing board :slap:

this one looks a bit neater
http://www.capa.com.au/pics/kits_holden_ve_v8_int_big.jpg


or just go all-out with this kit!
http://www.capa.com.au/pics/kits_holden_ve_v8_v7_02_big.jpg
http://www.capa.com.au/pics/kits_holden_ve_v8_v7_dyno_big.jpg

Roots setup is way better then that mess. Who the hell wants to pull hot air from right over the manifolds then compress it and make it way hotter

is there an air/air setup on there?
:slap:

by the looks and with prochargers reputation I have no doubt there is an air/air intercooler on there. look at the outlet tube off the blower. rather than going to the intake it sweeps forward and down to feed a front intercooler, then back and up to re-enter the engine compartment on the passenger side and into the front of the intake. similar setup to the one on my mustang.
as I am a big fan and loyal owner of prochargers I do have to admit I may end up running a magnacharger on this car. the overall cleanliness of the setup is impressive, no excessive ducting to have to hassle with and less issues with belt launching. it would be nice if magnacharger could compete closer in the price range though.. :banghead:

Already done ;)

Wow, that was really fas!! I thought Mike Haddads was the only one that was done and I do not think they used mikes as the beta CARB tester. I have been involved with CARB testing, and usually it can take 4 to 6 months for the Air Resource Board to issue the Compliance number after the testing was done. The ARB is not a very cooperative group.


mike
dms

Daayyymmm!! Thats allota numbers

Yikes - hopefully the Procharger folks can get a cleaner set-up figured out. I know they have no problem making power, but that set-up looks like a mess, IMHO.

Wow, that was really fas!! I thought Mike Haddads was the only one that was done and I do not think they used mikes as the beta CARB tester. I have been involved with CARB testing, and usually it can take 4 to 6 months for the Air Resource Board to issue the Compliance number after the testing was done. The ARB is not a very cooperative group.


mike
dms

It was fast, and we had another avenue for the test. Feel free to call when you get a chance Mike.

Where would the hood scoops be located in reference to the location of the intake filter? I would imagine un-plugging the hood scoops would allow quite a bit of cool air to flow over the filter before it gets a chance to heat up.

Sounds like a good idea in theory, but as has already been discussed here the "scoops" are in a low pressure area of the hood, most air would flow right past without ever going in. Even if that weren't so it wouldn't be a god idea in this case as you'd end up with a completely soaked filter everytime you drove in the rain.

The only real way to fix that install is to move the intake somewhere else. The IAT with the filter in that location is probably north of 200 degrees. Not what you want any engine pulling in, especially not a forced induction engine.

Help me out here. I'm trying to spend some money. Not just whistling dixie.

So are these guys going to do your car or whatssss uppp??
I guess working 7 days a week pays off, $7.5 K is alot scratch for me to come up with by July Ron,,,,,are you selling pot on the side??
:judge:
Theres a hatchet fker from me to you...

Ok so we have all seen the NOS G8 out there...No single turbo Walmart jobs for like the blue collar man for like $3K???? The dual 900 horse thing is alittle out there..but if 4 cyl ricers can get 400hp to the crank on single turbo...isnt there someone out there doing something with the GT? Ill be happy with 550 hp and call it a day