Just what it says in the title,
curious if there are any GXP's for sale in the durham region/GTA area.
thanks

Unfortunately the GXP version was never sold in Canada. If you do find one for sale it will have been imported from the US.

You'll probably have much better luck importing one from the US than trying to find an existing one for sale. Good luck in your hunt.

I know for sure that at least 3 GXP's were sold in Canada, if not 6.

But I do agree, you probably won't find one of those for sale. You'll probably need to import one.

Agree. Good luck trying to find one in Canada let alone Durham region or GTA.

Can start your import search here:
http://autos.aol.com/used-list/make1-Pontiac/model1-G8/trim-GXP

Davis pontiac in Lethbridge has three GXP's. Two for $47K, and the other is $49k. You are better off importing one yourself. It will save you money. If you can pick one up for $36,500US your final cost should be about $42,700CAD sitting in your driveway. Less $1000CAD if they don't charge you the Gas guzzler tax.

Interesting. GM must have brought a few from the states into Canada to help clear them out. I wish they were around last April when GM was offering the $6k discounts.

:whine:

Found this one - http://www.autotrader.ca/used_cars_Cars_details/TILBURY_Ontario_2009_PONTIAC_G8+RARE+GXP+6SPD+6.2L +V8%2c+LTHR%2c+RWD%2c+L_2894489.html?srcid=6401073&source=27&pgno=1&srt=70&CompanyID=ON20071119101847905&r=ontario&ad-attributes=photos,,

These are the three in Leathbridge:

http://www.autotrader.ca/used_cars_Cars_details/LETHBRIDGE_Alberta_2009_PONTIAC_G8+GXP_3501122.htm l?srcid=6895674&source=27&pgno=1&srt=10&CompanyID=CT200451210210706&r=edmontonalberta&ad-attributes=,,

http://www.autotrader.ca/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=3028237&srcid=6503492&source=27&pgno=2&srt=10&CompanyID=CT200451210210706&r=edmontonalberta&ad-attributes=photos,,&mp=0

http://www.autotrader.ca/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=2675357&srcid=6240207&source=27&pgno=2&srt=10&CompanyID=CT200451210210706&r=edmontonalberta&ad-attributes=photos,,&mp=0

Interesting. GM must have brought a few from the states into Canada to help clear them out. I wish they were around last April when GM was offering the $6k discounts.

:whine:

If your referring to the 3 in Lethbridge, those were all imported from the states as used vehicles by that dealership.

The ones that I originally referred to were actually Canadian corporate demos.

I've been thinking of getting a used GXP the past few days myself ... called GM Canada and they said as long as the "in-service" date is at least 6 months, the warranty will still apply.

The autotrader.ca 1 above is way overpriced considering I almost snatched 1 down in Pennsylvania for $36k US before someone else bought it the next day I found it. :(

I've been thinking of getting a used GXP the past few days myself ... called GM Canada and they said as long as the "in-service" date is at least 6 months, the warranty will still apply.

The autotrader.ca 1 above is way overpriced considering I almost snatched 1 down in Pennsylvania for $36k US before someone else bought it the next day I found it. :(

Don't forget about taxes, levies, and inspection costs.

I've been thinking of getting a used GXP the past few days myself ... called GM Canada and they said as long as the "in-service" date is at least 6 months, the warranty will still apply.


6 months & at least 12,000km before you can get any warranty work done.

Don't forget about taxes, levies, and inspection costs.

Let me try the math again assuming the CAD on par with the USD (getting very close):

$36000 + 5% GST + 8% pst + 6.1% duty = 36000 x 1.191 = $42,876

That's ignoring the $200 riv fee and what-not.

That autotrader one is asking $4k more. I just read somewhere that there's a good chance that the next Holden design will come over as a Chevy but that may still be 5 years away they said.

Maybe I'll throw an offer along with the MS6 trade-in and see what they say.

Isn't the duty doubled because the car was not built in North America? I think that's what I read when I was looking at bringing in a 2006 GTO.

Isn't the duty doubled because the car was not built in North America? I think that's what I read when I was looking at bringing in a 2006 GTO.

You will have to pay 5% GST, and then an extra 6.11% duty because it isn't built in North America.

Let me try the math again assuming the CAD on par with the USD (getting very close):

$36000 + 5% GST + 8% pst + 6.1% duty = 36000 x 1.191 = $42,876

That's ignoring the $200 riv fee and what-not.

Yes the dollar is almost par. But if it isn't, when you do your calculations they are on the amount $CAD. You also did not figure in the gas guzzler tax of $1000 and a minor $100 for the air conditioning. And if its at all like Alberta you will have to do an out of province inspection also if the car has over 5000km.

Isn't the duty doubled because the car was not built in North America? I think that's what I read when I was looking at bringing in a 2006 GTO.

You will have to pay 5% duty, and then an extra 6.11% because it isn't built in North America.

The 5% is GST, then you have to pay the duty of 6.11% duty. Duty is only paid once (if at all.)

I called last week and the only duty is the 6.1% because the car isn't built in North America (free trade agreement means no duty). There's no extra 5% afaik.

On my calcs above too I missed including the 13% tax on the auto trader price ... so it's actually $52,600 versus $42,000 ... an extra $10k!! Ok, $9k if you add the gas guzzler tax. There's a lot of great cars out there for $52k on the road and they're brand new.

I called last week and the only duty is the 6.1% because the car isn't built in North America (free trade agreement means no duty). There's no extra 5% afaik.

On my calcs above too I missed including the 13% tax on the auto trader price ... so it's actually $52,600 versus $42,000 ... an extra $10k!! Ok, $9k if you add the gas guzzler tax. There's a lot of great cars out there for $52k on the road and they're brand new.

You should inquire as to weather they can "deliver" the vehicle out of state so that you do not have to pay the state tax.

There's no State taxes as it's where it's used that determines the tax rate ... ask me how I know?

... cause I just bought one!!!!!!!! Can't wait to fly down and drive it back. :D

Hey congrats LBV!

Your going to love the drive back. I know I did.

Which state do you buy it in?

Yes Court, I corrected the GST, Duty error.

Thx spyder! I'm gonna keep the details on the down-low until I know there's no chance someone else is gonna high-ball me ... even though they said the car is mine you never know with dealers right?

So how many of us are there up here north of the 49th anyway? Betcha I could count them on 1 hand uh?

Spyder - have you done your CAI and tune yet? I'm wondering what #'s we can get extra over stock?

There's no State taxes as it's where it's used that determines the tax rate ... ask me how I know?

... cause I just bought one!!!!!!!! Can't wait to fly down and drive it back. :D

That's kinda what I thought. Congrat's. :)

Thx spyder! I'm gonna keep the details on the down-low until I know there's no chance someone else is gonna high-ball me ... even though they said the car is mine you never know with dealers right?

So how many of us are there up here north of the 49th anyway? Betcha I could count them on 1 hand uh?

I know what you mean about the down low. I bought mine new from a dealer and did not give out all the information till I registered it.

As for how many. We are a very rare bird in the great white north. Maybe court can correct me on this, but my guess would be approx. 15 of us. Breakdown as such.

QE-1
ON-4
AB-9
BC-1

3 of the AB ones still for sale at the dealer in lethbridge. And 1 in ON at Tilbury.

I have no idea :)

Other than you & I, are there any members on this board in AB with GXP's ? or any that you know personally?

We need to start up a Canadian GXP registry thread. ??

Spyder - have you done your CAI and tune yet? I'm wondering what #'s we can get extra over stock?

No nothing yet. Its in storage till the rains come and wash away all the salt & sand.

We need to start up a Canadian GXP registry thread. ??

Starting to look that way eh?

No others on this board that I know of...............yet

No nothing yet. Its in storage till the rains come and wash away all the salt & sand.


And big huge chunks of crushed rock. :cursin::rant::The_Villagers::madsign3:

We need to start up a Canadian GXP registry thread.

Starting to look that way eh?

No others on this board that I know of...............yet

Would you like to do the honours? :thumbsup:

Would you like to do the honours? :thumbsup:

I have to step out for a bit, But if you don't have one up by the time I get back, I would gladly start that thread.:wiggle:

Me too, Just headin out for supper! I'll check back in later tonight :)

It has been completed...

Sorry for the threadjacking.

To anyone reading this thread and thinking of importing, here is a correction on the previous statements on paying duty.

Automobiles manufactured in Australia do not require any duty to be paid. I imported my G8 from the US and only paid the nominal import fees (couple hundred bucks) GST and PST over the price from the dealer. If you purchase in NY or PA there is no state tax. I thoroughly researched before purchasing and phoned Canada Customs twice to confirm no duty was required. I had to argue with one official over the phone and speak to her supervisor before they agreed that duty did not apply. I printed out the appropriate section from the Customs guide online and took it with me when I drove the car up from the border but it was not required.

Another thing to note, the car electronically flips between imperial and metric so there is no need to change gauges or apply stickers.

[quote=flagg;472109]To anyone reading this thread and thinking of importing, here is a correction on the previous statements on paying duty.

I printed out the appropriate section from the Customs guide online and took it with me when I drove the car up from the border but it was not required.[quote]


flagg:

Can you post the section on here, or the appropriate URL. Thanks

The Customs Tariff Guide can be found here:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/menu-eng.html

The version I am looking at is 01-99-t2010-02-eng.pdf

Section 8703.22.00 and 8703.23.00 State the following:
AUT, NZT, CCCT, LDCT,
UST, MT, MUST, CIAT,
CT, CRT, IT, NT, SLT,
PT: Free
GPT: 6%

This means that AUT (Australia) is duty free, GPT is 6% and all other geographies not listed above are 6.1%.

This is what you meant:

8703.22.00 - -Of a cylinder capacity exceeding 1,000 cc but not exceeding 1,500 cc
Note: The benefit of the General Preferential Tariff is withdrawn from
goods of this tariff item that originate in the Republic of Korea.
6.1% AUT, NZT, CCCT, LDCT,
UST, MT, MUST, CIAT,
CT, CRT, IT, NT, SLT,
PT: Free
GPT: 6%
10 - - - - -New or used racing cars .................................................. ........... NMB
20 - - - - -Other used vehicles .................................................. ................. NMB
- - - - -Other:
91 - - - - - -Of an interior volume not exceeding 2.4 m³ ................................... NMB
92 - - - - - -Of an interior volume exceeding 2.4 m³ but not exceeding 2.8 m³ ...... NMB
93 - - - - - -Of an interior volume exceeding 2.8 m³ but not exceeding 3.1 m³ ...... NMB
94 - - - - - -Of an interior volume exceeding 3.1 m³ but not exceeding 3.4 m³ ...... NMB
95 - - - - - -Of an interior volume exceeding 3.4 m³.......................................... NMB

Section 8703.22.00 and 8703.23.00 State the following:
AUT, NZT, CCCT, LDCT,
UST, MT, MUST, CIAT,
CT, CRT, IT, NT, SLT,
PT: Free
GPT: 6%

This means that AUT (Australia) is duty free, GPT is 6% and all other geographies not listed above are 6.1%.

Are you sure that AUT is not the code for Austria like the U.N. uses?
The U.N code for Australia is AUS.

Not saying that this is what the document uses. Just would like to make sure it is correct as I have spoken to BIS and we are able to get refunds if you are correct.

The Customs Tariff Guide can be found here:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/menu-eng.html

The version I am looking at is 01-99-t2010-02-eng.pdf

Section 8703.22.00 and 8703.23.00 State the following:
AUT, NZT, CCCT, LDCT,
UST, MT, MUST, CIAT,
CT, CRT, IT, NT, SLT,
PT: Free
GPT: 6%

This means that AUT (Australia) is duty free, GPT is 6% and all other geographies not listed above are 6.1%.

So it might not be called a duty but it's still 6%, right?

The tariff guide clearly states AUT is Australia. Do a quick search of the pdf for AUT and you will find it. I imported my G8 in July. I can't speak for what the rules were before then but I doubt it was changed.

Again to be clear:
AUT, NZT, CCCT, LDCT,
UST, MT, MUST, CIAT,
CT, CRT, IT, NT, SLT,
PT: Free

Ok, so what's GPT then?

The tariff guide clearly states AUT is Australia. Do a quick search of the pdf for AUT and you will find it. I imported my G8 in July. I can't speak for what the rules were before then but I doubt it was changed.

Again to be clear:
AUT, NZT, CCCT, LDCT,
UST, MT, MUST, CIAT,
CT, CRT, IT, NT, SLT,
PT: Free

Well I did the search. And hey flagg it looks like you are totally right.

Thanks man!! You just got me some of the money for my mods.

Leave it to the Canadian government not to follow the rest of the worlds standards AUS vs AUT. Maybe its a ploy to rip us off for more money, thinking its Austria like I did. I bought mine in July as well, so guess what. The adjustment request is going in the mail. Here is the link for it.

http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/publications/forms-formulaires/b2g.pdf

Can someone direct me to the exact pages that I can print to bring with me when crossing back into Canada? Not finding anything easily ... Thx

Well thanks to everyone who posted in regards to the 6.1% import tax charged by the Federal gov....... this prompted me to do some more research and I am happy to confirm that it appears that anyone who paid this tax is due a refund of this tax plus the 5% GST and possibly the provincial sales tax as well since an error was made at the customs level and then you paid your PST on this as well, I need to do some more research for the PST to see if this is the case.

First go to this site and d/l the Tariff pdf:

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/menu-eng.html

I downloaded the 2009 tariff since I imported my GXP last Labour Day, there is a new 2010 version and you can check if the same applies but I am sure that it does.

Check on page 80 of the 2009 tariff and look for "abbreviations" on the far left about 2/3 of the page down and you will see that AUT stands for "Australia Tariff" so that proves beyond a doubt what was mentioned earlier "AUT" is Australia.

Now go to page 1592 section 8703.24.00 and scroll down to the ss (sub-section) 71 thru 74, this falls under the headline "New motor cars and other motor vehicles exceeding 6 cylinders" this would be our classification, now go back up to the 8703.24.00 line and look on the far right side "AUT" is the first code listed and when you scroll down is states "free" so it appears that it IS free but I will verify this tomorrow with my customs broker and re-post once I have an answer.

My thanks again to those who brought this to light .... that GTO that I always wanted since 2006 just got a lot closer and less expensive hopefully.

Regards to all,

John.


PS: For those of you importing now you will need to refer to the 2010 Tariff publication so the pages there are 32 for the AUT explanation and page 1548 for the classification for your car, nothing has changed from the 2009 version.

Now go to page 1592 section 8703.24.00 and scroll down to the ss (sub-section) 71 thru 74, this falls under the headline "New motor cars and other motor vehicles exceeding 8 cylinders" this would be our classification, now go back up to the 8703.24.00 line and look on the far right side "AUT" is the first code listed and when you scroll down is states "free" so it appears that it IS free but I will verify this tomorrow with my customs broker and re-post once I have an answer.


I don't think our engines Exceed 8 cyl's.

But let us know how this turns out. I wouldn't complain about getting my GST back :)

But let us know how this turns out. I wouldn't complain about getting my GST back :)[/quote]

Did you pay the 6.1% duty? If you did you may be entitled to a refund of that plus the GST you pid on top and maybe the PST as well since the PST you paid was also on the price paid for the car converted to Canadian plus the 6.1% duty. Here in Quebec it is even more since the PST is applied on top of the cost of the car plus the GST.

I will know more in the next couple of days and will let you know.

Regards.

I don't think our engines Exceed 8 cyl's.

But let us know how this turns out. I wouldn't complain about getting my GST back :).

x2. Yes let us know. I would love to have both back.

Originally Posted by flagg
The Customs Tariff Guide can be found here:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-com.../menu-eng.html

The version I am looking at is 01-99-t2010-02-eng.pdf

Section 8703.22.00 and 8703.23.00 State the following:
AUT, NZT, CCCT, LDCT,
UST, MT, MUST, CIAT,
CT, CRT, IT, NT, SLT,
PT: Free
GPT: 6%

This means that AUT (Australia) is duty free, GPT is 6% and all other geographies not listed above are 6.1%.

Thx to all who have posted about this but I think you got lucky flagg.

From my understanding, all of the countries listed above (with PT being Puerto Rico IIRC) there is no MFN or "most favoured nation tarrif" so it's FREE. However, I can't see us getting around the GPT or "general preferential tarrif" of 6%. It's there in black & white. The only thing you can perhaps argue about is the .1% ... ie. it should be 6% not 6.1%.

I hope I'm wrong but I'll know early next week.

Edit - just seeing that the USA is on there too and we know it's got no duty ... there's where my angle is gonna be if they argue with me ... "why are you charging me 6% when the USA is 0 and it's right there on the FREE list with Australia" ... mmmm, just more questions - typical Gov't documentation.

Just called Customs and they confirmed there is a 6.1% duty ... vin's that start with 1-5 are North American and have no duty, others have 6.1%. :(

The 6.1% falls under the column MFN Tarriff.