Recently been through a horrifying process with GM to get to buy my car bacl. Long story and I won't share it now, but bottom line is I'd like to know what people are getting for comparable cars at dealers.

I have a '09 GT premium/sport. MBM in color. Got the car back to bone stock other than window tint and the original 19's I have to put back on the car. Car has ~37,xxx miles and truly is in outstanding condition.

Private party retail is $26K in excellent condition and ~$24K in good condition. Been down this road a number of times before with dealerships but let me know if anyone has recent examples! Thanks!

Recently been through a horrifying process with GM to get to buy my car bacl. Long story and I won't share it now, but bottom line is I'd like to know what people are getting for comparable cars at dealers.

I have a '09 GT premium/sport. MBM in color. Got the car back to bone stock other than window tint and the original 19's I have to put back on the car. Car has ~37,xxx miles and truly is in outstanding condition.

Private party retail is $26K in excellent condition and ~$24K in good condition. Been down this road a number of times before with dealerships but let me know if anyone has recent examples! Thanks!


Something isn't right here.

Usually the terms "Buy back" and "outstanding condition" usually don't appear in the same post. :confused: :(

Hmmm....

Yeah, does sound odd but hey, who knows!

It's a minor trans issue of some sort GM has been unable to fix. The short story is that a handfull of times the car when flipping back and forth between normal and sport mode of shifting the CEL comes on and the car gets stuck in second or third gear. GM has attempted fixing the problem four times and has been unsuccessful. Their proposal is to get me out of my current lien on the vehicle which would be favorable, however compare original MSRP of my G8 to the new vehicle that I would buy at full GM MSRP - that is, not being eligible for any kind of incentives.

So, other than this minor issue that doesn't happen unless you horse around a lot between sport/shift mode (and by the way, this only happens while in bumper to bumper traffic), it's really not all that significant. Otherwise, the vehicle is in outstanding physical condition as I am and have proven to be with 10 GM vehicles in 12 years of driving cars, and I am curious what a comparable car is getting out of our lovely dealers across America.

Good question but not attempting a shady deal here. Just trying to gauge current and relevant information.

It was just odd seeing those phrases together is all. Nothing intended.I havent tried to trade mine so I cant help much but if you can find a GM of a dealership that will let you look at the "little black book" they use, it would help. KBB and NADA websites are pretty cool but are usually off the mark quite a bit from the book the dealerships use. I see some selling private party for 22-24 so take it for what its worth. Good luck!

And to add to the above - forget about what the on-line sources say is the trade in amount for a car in 'excellent' condition. No matter how pristine a car is, the only excellent condition cars are those that have just come off the assembly line.

I'd say surf on over to kelly blue book or edmunds or even autotrader and average them together. The dealership would be leaning towards giving you around the "dealer trade in value" whereas you need to try and get "private party retail sale" .... but anywhere in between those two numbers should give you a good ballpark idea of what you're looking at.

I know I bought my car new for 20k even (not including trade or deposit) in March and mine is worth around 23k with 24k on the clock. Now that's what I call "a good investment" ... lol

You won't get what you want, I can guarantee that. I took my G8 in recently for an appraisal on a trade and they offered me $22,000. Yes, $22,000. G8 GXP 6-speed manual with 14k miles. Clean title.......

I traded in my 2009 MSM G8 GT which I returned to bone stock as well. I had 14k on it and I negotiated my way up to 23,000 which I thought was fair. Good luck with your issue

I got 23,500 for mine when I traded a couple of months ago. It had 14K on it with sport and premium packages.

I just took $21000 for my 09 G8 GT PSM with 24500 miles. Sport, Premium, Tinted windows.

You won't get what you want, I can guarantee that. I took my G8 in recently for an appraisal on a trade and they offered me $22,000. Yes, $22,000. G8 GXP 6-speed manual with 14k miles. Clean title.......

That dealer clearly thought it was a GT. No other explanation... Or just had no idea what the GXP was.

i just got $18k for my 2009 G8 GT with 67k miles on it..2 weeks ago.

I traded mine in.. unfortunately it was a crash car no frame damage but is on carfax as airbag deployed... I bid the car around OK and TX and got bids from 19000 to 21000 for a GXP/manual shifter w/10000 miles on it... Auction shows cars going @ 19000 --> 21000 for GT models.. 22000 --> 23000 for GXP and dealers are sticking with those numbers.. I traded mine for a Camero.. and I REALLY MISS my GXP!!! I just let her go 1 week ago...... anyway His bid was 20750 showing on my trade. As a side note, I did keep the DEATHSTAR w/BT and XM box out of the trunk.. as the xm box has a lifetime sub.. if anyone is interested pm me...

22-23k for GXP's?! Anyone who fall for that as an accurate number to their worth is a fool.

If you want an easy way to figure out a trade price take it to carmax. They will be pretty close to what a dealer will give you, some people have been lucky and carmax was higher than dealer trade.

I'd say surf on over to kelly blue book or edmunds or even autotrader and average them together. The dealership would be leaning towards giving you around the "dealer trade in value" whereas you need to try and get "private party retail sale" .... but anywhere in between those two numbers should give you a good ballpark idea of what you're looking at.

I know I bought my car new for 20k even (not including trade or deposit) in March and mine is worth around 23k with 24k on the clock. Now that's what I call "a good investment" ... lol

Yep! We he said^^^

I'd say surf on over to kelly blue book or edmunds or even autotrader and average them together. The dealership would be leaning towards giving you around the "dealer trade in value" whereas you need to try and get "private party retail sale" .... but anywhere in between those two numbers should give you a good ballpark idea of what you're looking at.

I know I bought my car new for 20k even (not including trade or deposit) in March and mine is worth around 23k with 24k on the clock. Now that's what I call "a good investment" ... lol

Same numbers here!!

Bought mine 12/08 for $20k out the door. Traded for just over $23k with 30k on the clock in 10/10. Damn good investment if you ask me!!!

... 22000 --> 23000 for GXP ...

I'll take one dozen please!

Just traded my 09 MSM GT sport/premium package 22.5k mile car in two weeks ago and got 21.5k. Several dealers offered the same to me and wouldn't budge. The car is/was in excellent condition with the only blemishes being a few rock chips in the paint on the front bumper.

I've seen several of these cars with 15k-25k miles selling private party between 21-23k over the last couple months, so if you can get anywhere in that range from a dealer that'll be about as good as it's going to get. I went ahead with this route because with the sport package (premium tires), not many people would be willing to buy a car they could hardly drive in the current weather.

I cant believe actual trade values are this low considering KBB says ~24.5k for my 09 GT Premium/Sport with 14k on it. I know its a different vehicle but we just traded our 2007 Tahoe LT 2WD w/ 58k on it for $21k. I thought I did ok there since KBB said 21275 for it and the paint was less than perfect and had a few dents. Overall it was in good shape tho.

Research FS prices on the net and create a spreadsheet and take some averages. Thing is, with fuel prices where they are, and a forecast to be @ the four dollar range by summer, I would guess that as fuel prices move up, the G8 GT's value will move down slightly. As well, increased fuel costs may shift the line to a higher income buyer.

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP 4 DR Sedan
8cyl 6.2 liter gasoline
6-Speed Manual
Lic State: TX
Lic Expire: VIN: 6G2EP57W69L306261
Prod Date: Mileage: 38,521
Veh Insp# : Mileage Type: Non Readable
Condition: Code: W3283C
Ext. Color: RED HOT Int. Color:
Ext. Refinish: Two-Stage Int. Refinish:
Ext. Paint Code: 687F Int. Trim Code:


Damage estimate starts here--------------------------------


1 N 34 Frt Bumper Cvr Overhau Additional Labor S1 INC SM
2 E 6 Cover,Front Bumper 92213340 GM Part $170.00* S1 2.4 SM
>> DEALER PART PRICE MATCH
3 L 6 13 Cover,Front Bumper Refinish 4.0 RF
2.8 Surface
0.6 Two-stage setup
0.6 Two-stage
4 E 168 Grille,Frt Bumper Lwr 92213351 GM Part $85.01 S1 INC SM
5 E 11 Emblem,Frt Bmpr Cover 25927029 GM Part $16.33 0.2 SM
6 E 178 Filler,Front Bumper LT 92213349 GM Part $25.82 S1 INC SM
7 E 76 Panel,Frt Bmpr License 92213345 GM Part $44.27 S1 0.2 SM
8 E 50 Absorber,Front Bumper 92201784 GM Part $117.92 INC SM
9 E 17 Brkt,Front Bumper Mtg LT 92159883 GM Part $13.53* S1 INC SM
10 E 18 Brkt,Front Bumper Mtg RT 92159884 GM Part $13.63 S2 INC SM
11 E 187 Brkt,Front Bumper Mtg LT 92164517 GM Part $13.53* S2 INC SM
12 E hose upper Replace OEM $11.12* S1 SM*
13 E 15 Grille Assembly LT 92201780 GM Part $122.46 INC SM
14 E 16 Grille Assembly RT 92201781 GM Part $122.46 INC SM
15 EU 41 Headlamp Assy,Halogen LT RECYCLED PART $150.00* +25.00 INC SM
>> nationwide contact joy
16 EU 42 Headlamp Assy,Halogen RT RECYCLED PART $150.00* +25.00 INC SM
>> nationwide auto contact joy, 817572-3030
17 N 973 Headlamps Aim Additional Labor 0.4 SM
18 E 51 46 Lamp Assembly,Fog LT 15839896 GM Part $104.84 INC SM
19 E 83 # Panel,Hood 92232814 GM Part $853.10 2.0 SM
# = 01, 46
20 L 83 Panel,Hood Refinish 5.1 RF
3.0 Surface
1.5 Edge
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0.6 Two-stage
21 E 100 Latch,Hood Panel 92184170 GM Part $41.62 INC SM
22 E 90 Cable,Hood Lock 92206018 GM Part $55.06 0.9 SM
23 E 84 Hinge,Hood Panel LT 92160231 GM Part $18.03 INC SM
24 L 84 Hinge,Hood Panel LT Refinish 0.2 RF
0.2 Surface
25 E 85 Hinge,Hood Panel RT 92160230 GM Part $18.03 INC SM
26 L 85 Hinge,Hood Panel RT Refinish 0.2 RF
0.2 Surface
27 E 86 01 Pad,Insulator Hood 92202226 GM Part $84.13 S1 0.3 SM
28 E 224 Panel Assembly,Rad Sup 92159496 GM Part $296.93 6.2 SM
29 E 755 49 Radiator 92216759 GM Part $553.58 S1 0.5 ME*
30 SB 755 Radiator Sublet Repair $65.00* +25.00 S1 INC* SM
>> CHANGE LOWER TANK
31 RI 755 Radiator R & I Assembly S1 INC SM
32 E 33 01 Label,Radiator Support 22711205 GM Part $41.35 0.1 SM
33 E 78 01 Label,Radiator Support 19256056 GM Part $27.20 0.1 SM
34 E 72 Deflector,Radiator 92191950 GM Part $16.20 INC SM
35 E 94 Deflector,Radiator LT 92191951 GM Part $14.34 2.0 SM
36 E 95 Deflector,Radiator RT 92191951 GM Part $14.34 INC SM
37 E 180 Deflector,Radiator 92232878 GM Part $76.05 INC SM
38 E 764 Tank,Coolant Recovery 92164620 GM Part $20.81 0.2 SM
39 E 956 Blade,Engine Fan LT 92191938 GM Part $82.94 S1 INC SM
40 E Fan Harness Replace OEM $39.48* S1 INC* SM*
41 E 957 Blade,Engine Fan RT 92191939 GM Part $96.88 S1 INC SM
42 E 759 Shroud,Radiator 92191943 GM Part $311.13 0.8 SM
43 E 746 Brkt,Radiator Mounting LT 92191953 GM Part $32.57 INC SM
44 E 747 Brkt,Radiator Mounting RT 92191953 GM Part $32.57 INC SM
45 E 756 46 Hose,Radiator Upper 92157816 GM Part $26.40* S1 0.3 SM
46 EC 758 46 Hose,Radiator Upper COMPETITIVE PART $5.50* S1 0.2 SM
47 E 1907 Mount,Radiator LT 92191952 GM Part $63.58 INC SM
48 E 1908 Mount,Radiator RT 92191952 GM Part $63.58 INC SM
49 E 762 Pump,Engine Coolant 19180610 GM Part $280.24 S1 1.3 ME
50 E 22 Airbag Sensor,Front LT 92164400 GM Part $224.45 0.4 ME
51 E 23 Airbag Sensor,Front RT 92164400 GM Part $224.45 0.2 ME
52 N 986 A/C Evac Rechrg & Rcvr Additional Labor 1.8 ME
53 E 731 49 Condenser,A/C 92191927 GM Part $393.93 INC ME
54 E 845 Hose,A/C 92198656 GM Part $339.44 S1 0.3 ME
55 E 877 Pipe,A/C 92193510 GM Part $99.93 0.3 ME
56 I 105 07 Panel,Inner Fender LT Repair 2.0* SM
57 L 105 Panel,Inner Fender LT Refinish 0.2* RF
0.2 Surface
58 I 106 07 Panel,Inner Fender RT Repair 1.0* SM
59 L 106 Panel,Inner Fender RT Refinish 0.2* RF
0.2 Surface
60 E 103 46 Fender,Front LT 92202891 GM Part $440.00 1.6 SM
61 L 103 Fender,Front LT Refinish 2.8 RF
1.9 Surface
0.5 Edge
0.4 Two-stage
62 E 104 46 Fender,Front RT 92202890 GM Part $440.00 1.6 SM
63 L 104 Fender,Front RT Refinish 2.8 RF
1.9 Surface
0.5 Edge
0.4 Two-stage
64 E 336 01 Nameplate,Fender LT 25763946 GM Part $52.64 0.2 SM
65 E 337 01 Nameplate,Fender RT 25763946 GM Part $52.64 0.2 SM
66 E 480 Cover,Relay Box RT 92207878 GM Part $23.42 ME
67 E 1118 Brkt,Computer Module RT 92184337 GM Part $20.41 0.2 ME
68 E 415 01 Box,Fuse RT 92228285 GM Part $206.04 1.0* ME
69 E 417 01 Brkt,Fuse Box RT 92230381 GM Part $24.18 ME
70 E 1171 46 Module,Computer RT 12597121 GM Part $364.62 S2 0.2 ME
71 I 115 07 Side Member Assembly LT Repair 1.0* SM
>> after pulls
72 L 115 Side Member Assembly LT Refinish 0.2* RF
0.2 Surface
73 I 116 07 Side Member Assembly RT Repair 1.0* SM
>> after pulls
74 L 116 Side Member Assembly RT Refinish 0.2* RF
0.2 Surface
75 E 1653 Cover,Engine 92068791 GM Part $182.64 0.2 ME
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76 E 836 Housing,Air Cleaner 92066869 GM Part $117.34 0.1 ME
77 E 769 Cover,Air Cleaner 92201651 GM Part $228.11 0.1 ME
78 E 796 Duct,Air Intake 92066872 GM Part $110.85 S1 0.5 ME
79 E 1809 46 Meter,Air Flow 15900023 GM Part $159.90 S1 INC ME
80 E Plate Replace OEM $15.17* S1 0.2* SM*
>> pn 92213909
81 E plate. Replace OEM $15.51* S1 0.2* SM*
>> pn 92213910
82 E 768 Hose,Air Duct 92216203 GM Part $189.37 0.1 ME
83 I 835 Mount,Transmission Repair S2 2.0* ME
>> INC HEALIARC WELD CAST
84 RI 835 Mount,Transmission R & I Assembly S2 1.0* ME
85 E 1681 Pulley,P/S Pump 92218309 GM Part $21.59* S1 1.2 ME
86 E 1823 49 Belt,Drive 92067442 GM Part $19.20 S1 0.2 ME
87 NG 143 Windshield,Tinted NAGS DW1773-GB $510.70 -35.00 2.8 SM
88 EC 202 Sealant Kit,W/Shield COMPETITIVE PART $22.00* INC SM
89 RI 278 Mldg,W/S Reveal Side LT R & I Assembly S1 INC* SM
90 E RT Reveal Mldg Retainer Replace OEM $34.16* S1 0.4* SM*
>> QTY 8
91 E LT Reveal Mldg Retainer Replace OEM $34.16* S1 0.4* SM*
>> QTY 8
92 RI 279 Mldg,W/S Reveal Side RT R & I Assembly S1 INC SM
93 E 70 Neck,Washer Filler 92220102 GM Part $20.07 INC SM
94 E 149 Reservoir,W/S Washer 92191904 GM Part $27.03 0.3 SM
95 E 862 Module,Airbag Control 92225702 GM Part $337.54 1.0 ME
96 E 878 Airbag,Steering Wheel 92204561 GM Part $824.55 0.2 ME
97 E 665 Buckle,Frt Seatbelt LT 89027358 GM Part $45.39* S1 0.1 SM
>> PN 19205355
98 E 666 Buckle,Frt Seatbelt RT 89027359 GM Part $45.39* S1 0.1 SM
99 E 670 Seatbelt,Front LT 89027356 GM Part $99.71* S1 1.1 SM
>> PN 19205352
100 E 671 Seatbelt,Front RT 89027357 GM Part $99.71* S1 1.3 SM
>> PN 19205354
101 E 1198 Retainer,Rckr Pnl Mldg LT MULTI-PART GM Part $17.71* S1 INC* SM
>> QTY 7
102 I Front Harness Repair Repair S1 4.0* ME*
103 E 1199 Retainer,Rckr Pnl Mldg RT MULTI-PART GM Part $17.71* S1 INC* SM
>> QTY 7
104 E Clip ,Rckr Pnl Mldg Replace OEM $20.15* S1 INC* SM*
>> QTY 5
105 E Washer Hose Replace OEM $15.22* S1 0.3* SM*
106 RI 117 Mldg,Rocker Panel LT R & I Assembly S1 0.4 SM
107 RI 118 Mldg,Rocker Panel RT R & I Assembly S1 0.4 SM
108 BR 207 Door Shell,Front LT Blend Refinish 1.2 RF
0.8 Blend
0.4 Two-stage
109 BR 208 Door Shell,Front RT Blend Refinish 1.0 RF
0.9 Blend
0.1 Two-stage
110 RI 239 W/Strip,Belt Outer LT R & I Assembly 0.6 SM
111 RI 240 W/Strip,Belt Outer RT R & I Assembly 0.6 SM
112 RI 342 Mirror,Outer R/C LT R & I Assembly INC SM
113 RI 343 Mirror,Outer R/C RT R & I Assembly INC SM
114 RI 227 Handle,Front Door Otr LT R & I Assembly 0.8 SM
115 RI 228 Handle,Front Door Otr RT R & I Assembly 0.8 SM
116 SB HAZARDOUS WASTE REMOVAL Sublet Repair $2.50* SM
117 SB FLEX ADDITIVE Sublet Repair $3.00* SM
118 E ANTI-FREEZE COOLANT Replace OEM $15.00* S1 INC* SM
119 I SET UP AND MEASURE Repair 1.5* SM
120 I pull front Repair 2.5* SM*
121 E MNT BRKT FRT BUMPER Replace OEM $52.39* S2 SM*
>> PART NUMBER 92244391
122 SB ONE STOP MOBILE SOLUTIONS Sublet Repair $270.00* +25.00 S2 SM*
>> INV # 11089
123 SB PARTS SHIPPING Sublet Repair $41.64* S2 SM*
124 SB FASTRAC Sublet Repair $366.95* S3 SM*
>> SEE NEXT GEN FOR INVOICE
124 Items
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01 CALL DEALER FOR EXACT PART # / PRICE
07 STRUCTURAL PART AS IDENTIFIED BY I-CAR
13 INCLUDES 0.6 HOURS FIRST PANEL TWO-STAGE ALLOWANCE
46 PRINTABLE ALTERNATE PARTS COMPARE
49 UNPRINTED ALTERNATE PARTS COMPARE
Estimate Total & Entries
Gross Parts $9,692.78
Other Parts $838.20
Paint Materials $579.20
Line Item Discount $178.75-
Line Item Markup $75.00
Parts & Material Total $11,006.43
Tax on Parts & Material @ 8.250% $908.03
Labor Rate Replace Hrs Repair Hrs Total Hrs
Sheet Metal (SM) $42.00 30.3 9.4 39.7 $1,667.40
Mech/Elec (ME) $80.00 9.0 7.8 16.8 $1,344.00
Frame (FR) $42.00
Refinish (RF) $42.00 18.1 18.1 $760.20
Paint Materials $32.00
Labor Total 74.6 Hours $3,771.60
Sublet Repairs $832.84
Gross Total $16,518.90
Less: Deductible $1,000.00-
Net Total $15,518.90
Actual Supplement Total $366.95
Less: Previous Net Total $15,151.95-
Net Supplement Total $366.95
Customer Owes $1,000.00


Vehicle was supplemented again for a broken cluster. That was another 350 plus install.

This was the damage to my car.. There was some question as to if I could prove up the damage.. so I wanted to remove the doubt??????

That car was close to a rebuild.. and was just a few bucks away from a total loss.


Here is the Insurance claim for the car in case someone might think of purchasing it from someone else without all the facts!!! Would you want a car that had sustained over $16,500 worth of damage????

If anyone would like to see the crash pictures Ill be glad to post those as well.

I traded in my 08 WH G8 GT with 45k miles with one accident (previous owner) for $21k on an 09 WH GXP M6 0 accidents with 32k for $29k and a new set of tires.

I was offered $24000 at a Chevy dealer.

kelly blue book