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: New ECM- odd problem


wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 03:11 PM
Installed new ECM with tune, did crank relearn, cleared codes. One weird problem: my DIC seems to be stuck in metric. When I choose English and hit enter it sets to metric again.

GRRRR8
07-16-2008, 03:15 PM
Installed new ECM with tune, did crank relearn, cleared codes. One weird problem: my DIC seems to be stuck in metric. When I choose English and hit enter it sets to metric again.

Contact Vector they will know.

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 03:19 PM
Contact Vector they will know.

Just called. Guy that might know is gone. They're going to try to call him.

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 03:27 PM
Chris called. He suggested I disconnect the battery for a few minutes. Have done that, will reconnect it in a bit and see.

VectorMotorsports
07-16-2008, 03:32 PM
You should be ok, the ECM doesnt impact that area of operation so I'm guessing it was just a fluke. Like I said if you need anything email me directly and I'll call you back since I'm out today!

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 03:35 PM
You should be ok, the ECM doesnt impact that area of operation so I'm guessing it was just a fluke. Like I said if you need anything email me directly and I'll call you back since I'm out today!

Thanks Chris. i appreciate the fast response.

Going to leave it disconnected about 20 min.

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 03:53 PM
Didn't work :(

VectorMotorsports
07-16-2008, 03:53 PM
Can you set any of the other modes on the cluster? Like I said they are unrelated in that aspect but lets see if we can figure this out together.

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 04:01 PM
Everything seems to work properly, just in metric.

VectorMotorsports
07-16-2008, 04:02 PM
I sent you a couple emails, lets try and figure this out there so I dont have to keep refreshing this thread on my phone :)

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 04:09 PM
Your last idea did it. Thanks Chris!

GeorgeInNePa
07-16-2008, 04:34 PM
Let me guess, it was a Canadian ECM, eh.


lol


:wink2:

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 06:00 PM
Let me guess, it was a Canadian ECM, eh.


lol


:wink2:

That's actually the first thing I thought of.

Honestly don't know what caused it but the fix was going into the DIC setup menu and resetting everything to factory default.

Much thanks to Chris at Vector who figured that out. He was immensely helpful and friendly. That's more of a feat considering it was supposed to be his day off...

Morris
07-16-2008, 09:38 PM
That is impressive service right there! Guys when is the tcm update due out. I don't want to order a new ecm just to find out the update comes out on Mon.

Check writer;

How much did it run you, did you get the sale? How do you like it so far? Service seemed first rate judging from the posts. What was the delivery time frame? Can you chirp the tires in the 1 to 2 shift?

wreckwriter
07-16-2008, 09:46 PM
I installed the new ECM and sent in my TCM data. I expect to get the new TCM file tomorrow morning so can't report on that yet. Weather has been awful here so haven't been able to test like I would like to. Throttle response is definitely improved but can't tell you much more just yet. Should know more tomorrow.

Very impressed with the way Chris helped me out today for sure.

VectorMotorsports
07-16-2008, 09:52 PM
That is impressive service right there! Guys when is the tcm update due out. I don't want to order a new ecm just to find out the update comes out on Mon.

Check writer;

How much did it run you, did you get the sale? How do you like it so far? Service seemed first rate judging from the posts. What was the delivery time frame? Can you chirp the tires in the 1 to 2 shift?

There is no update, we've been doing TCM's since almost day one with the FlashXpress system that Wreck is using now :)

Wreck, sorry man I just didnt make back to the shop tonight but if you dont have the file in the morning email me and I'll make sure it gets to you ASAP!

Morris
07-16-2008, 10:11 PM
O.K. guess the other guys were mistaken. I think I'm also off on how this works though. Why is he using the flash express if he purchased a new ecm?

I thought the ecm is the computer (small box) and with in is the "brain" the programing of the engine management as well as the transmission programming. If that was true though, and he purchased a new computer, he wouldn't need to flash anything as it would have come with the new programs installed. As you can see I'm a apparently little slow. I know this has been addressed many times, thought I understood until now.

Sorry to be the 100th guy to ask for clarification.

jsalbre
07-16-2008, 11:53 PM
The ECM only controls the engine. The TCM controls the transmission, but must be flashed at the car, not swapped out, as it is built into the transmission and would require ungodly amounts of work and expense to remove and replace.

wreckwriter
07-17-2008, 06:23 AM
Wreck, sorry man I just didnt make back to the shop tonight but if you dont have the file in the morning email me and I'll make sure it gets to you ASAP!

Not a problem at all :)

wreckwriter
07-17-2008, 06:24 AM
O.K. guess the other guys were mistaken. I think I'm also off on how this works though. Why is he using the flash express if he purchased a new ecm?

I thought the ecm is the computer (small box) and with in is the "brain" the programing of the engine management as well as the transmission programming. If that was true though, and he purchased a new computer, he wouldn't need to flash anything as it would have come with the new programs installed. As you can see I'm a apparently little slow. I know this has been addressed many times, thought I understood until now.

Sorry to be the 100th guy to ask for clarification.

ECM is a "box", the flash is only for the TCM portion.

Rob Moser
07-17-2008, 09:14 PM
I tried to re-route my VMS Flash Express data thru my base computer and everything turned to chinese......

GeorgeInNePa
07-17-2008, 09:52 PM
ECM is a "box", the flash is only for the TCM portion.

Untill you add stuff or change stuff, like me, and require a ECM retune. Then the FlashXpress can redo the programing in the ECM also.

VectorMotorsports
07-18-2008, 08:12 AM
Correct the FlashXpress CAN program both so if you want to you can do both modules without removing or touching anything.

G8GTlawride
07-18-2008, 10:40 AM
If you look at the VMS website and read the "Product Details" under the G8 ECM...
"Here are just a few of the laundry list of changes we made to our G8 ECM calibration in the name of more power, reliability and drivability:
• Proprietary extensive fuel and spark mapping to utilize 91+ octane fuel 30+ RWHP on 93 octane in the GT!
• Firmer part and full throttle shifts.
• Revised up and down shift points to take advantage of the engines RPM band and newfound power.

• Proprietary torque management adjustments unlike other software out there that just has an on/off toggle for torque management for the 6L Series of 6 speed autos we can tune individual gears and every other important portion of the transmission. Want sport shifts that actually feel sporty? We can do that!

• Significant increase in fuel economy to offset the cost of premium fuel (3+ MPG on the GT in some cases!)
• Rev limiter raised by 200 rpm."

Seems to me by this ad there is a program that is suppied by the ECM that affects the TCM. Hard to believe it doen't. That the only way to improve tranny performance is to buy yet another tune! Pehaps, VMS can clear it up with plain text. YES or NO.

wreckwriter
07-18-2008, 10:41 AM
You don't buy 2 separate tunes, they are both included in the price.

G8GTlawride
07-18-2008, 10:51 AM
I understand that but, if there is no "Tune" in the new ECM you purchase from VMS for the transmission to "Firm up part and full throttle shifts" or "Revised up and down shift points to take advantage of the engines RPM band and new found power", or, "Propietary torque management...." Then the only way is to get the "Flashexpress". I doubt they will send it to you for nothing.

VectorMotorsports
07-18-2008, 11:19 AM
Wreckwriter is correct hence why the item title is ECM/TCM tune. The FlashXpress rental is technically free (the tune price covers both the ECM/TCM regardless if you wait to do the TCM later ect) the only difference in cost incurred is the $50 non refundable part of the deposit used to upgrade shipping to 2nd day each way. This insures a lesser wait time for other customers who need the modules and a better time line for scheduling without having to worry about various ground transportation times.

HardEight
07-18-2008, 11:59 AM
To answer your question lawride, yes there was some tweaking in the ECM that effects the trans. They have stated this on other posts but I see you are new so welcome to the board. Also, these tunes only really click when working together. For a brief time I had put my stock ECM back in after I had my TCM tuned and boy what a difference, The car still ran fine on normal conditions, but when giving it the juice, shifts seemed a lot slower. I am guessing it was looking for a higher shift point that the stock ECM would never get too. But I put it back in and now doing 50mph, i can cut off the ESP and punch it and instantly the tires try to break loose. :D

Morris
07-20-2008, 01:18 PM
O.K. so I want the ecm/tcm rotofab combo. One problem, I don't have a lap top computer, can this be done with the standard pc? Honestly, I'm not very computer savvy, I don't even know where I would plug the flash express into the computer for the down loading. Also, is there still a sale going on? Man, I wish you guys had a shop in N Cal.