http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/wp-content/uploads//2011/03/Pontiac-G8-GXP1-400x254.jpg

Easily the best thing to come out of the now-defunct Pontiac brand in recent memory was the G8 sports sedan – based on the Australian Commodore. Not only was it an impressive performance machine, but it gave North America a taste of just how good a job Holden is doing down under.

Looking to satisfy that appetite, General Motors will reportedly re-introduce the rear-drive sedan in 2013 as a 2014 model year car. According to GMInsideNews, internal documents regarding the development of the car (code named 'SS Sedan') now have it listed as an approved program.

Delayed several times, the new launch date is designed to follow with the introduction of a new Commodore in Australia.

With the Pontiac brand now gone and no indication from General Motors to revive it, look for a Chevy bowtie to grace the grille of this new rear-drive machine.

More: Pontiac G8 Successor Set to Launch in 2013 (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/03/pontiac-g8-successor-set-to-launch-in-2013.html) on AutoGuide.com

i have a feeling this new "SS Sedan" will have GM's Direct Injection system but in a small block V8 setup, next gen LS engine anyone? :driving:

Here is the full article.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/zeta-update-three-holden-products-north-america-101692/

The last thing I need is another car to lust after....I DEMAND you remove this thread!!!!!!!!

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This would be great news, just unfortunate it's under the Chevy name :( I went to the car show here in Columbus a couple of weeks ago and I can honestly say outside of the Camaro Convertible and The Corvette, there wasn't a single Chevy I would want to get. They had a Volt there that looked better than I expected, but it's still a 40K Greenie Feelgood car. Screw that :lol:

The rest of the line up looked so freaking boring. I could have fell asleep just looking at all of them. A couple of the Buicks looked OK, but again they looked like everything else on the road. Plus I also can't get over the fact that a Buick to me is still a "Grandpa Car" The Grand National is the only Buick I can think of that truly breaks away from that stigma.

The Cadillacs I will say have escaped the Grandpa stigma. A few of them looked great. I'd love to have a new CTS-V, but then I saw the price tag and remembered why I won't be in a Caddy anytime soon LOL.

I know it won't happen but I'd still love to see them bring back Pontiac. Ever since I was a kid, Pontiac to me always represented performance and excitement the GM lineup lacked elsewhere. They always looked better than there Chevy counterpart and always had a bit better performance, well at least in my eyes. LOL. They should have kept the name plate around even if for just a few cars like the G8 and the solstice, although the Saturn Sky actually was the best looking of those two. It would have looked great with the Pontiac logo!!

Maybe you could graft on a Pontiac front end.

if they bring another back as a chevy i'd order a original holden front end for it unless it just looks really really good

That sure is a long time away to launch a car already being sent EVERYWHERE ELSE.

im guessing its a total redesign of the holden commodore. not just a refresh like the new models that came out last year with the touch screen and all the new goodies

Why don't they wait a few more years. GM are a bunch of clowns. Now is the time for American muscle cars, who knows in a few years. Once again they are missing the boat.

I still say the only 3 cars I'd trade my GT in for are a GXP, Z06 (LeMans Blue 06/07), or a CTS-V Coupe.

yep i knew it. why would gm bring back a car that was first produced in 2007 this late in the game. gm is going to take the new commodore once holden releases it. cannot wait to see the new commodore. and if its even as good as this one, hopefully i will have a new car choice in 3 or 4 years..

I hope they approve the UTE soon, I been waiting on G8 ST until they canceled it after approving it in Dec 08, was suppose to start manufacturing it in April 09. I have almost given up on GM and waiting for the UTE to come over. I’m starting to look at FORD F150 with Ecoboost engine. The full size truck will not look that good next to my goat, I would prefer to have the UTE next to my goat and full size truck is bit bigger than I really need. But I have to replace my daily driver soon (not that I’m having problems with it, but its 10 years old now), I would like a RWD with lot of power and need lot of cargo space (lot more than what a sedan has).
Got to respect that Ecoboost engine, 365hp 420tq and still gets 16/22 EPA on 5500 pound brick. If I get the F150, I would have to put 5-10K of mods into it right away (first thing is to lower that thing) and almost $40K for the truck. I would really rather like to get the UTE, it would be lot cheaper, but I’m not going to wait forever.

This would be great news, just unfortunate it's under the Chevy name :( I went to the car show here in Columbus a couple of weeks ago and I can honestly say outside of the Camaro Convertible and The Corvette, there wasn't a single Chevy I would want to get. They had a Volt there that looked better than I expected, but it's still a 40K Greenie Feelgood car. Screw that :lol:

The rest of the line up looked so freaking boring. I could have fell asleep just looking at all of them. A couple of the Buicks looked OK, but again they looked like everything else on the road. Plus I also can't get over the fact that a Buick to me is still a "Grandpa Car" The Grand National is the only Buick I can think of that truly breaks away from that stigma.

The Cadillacs I will say have escaped the Grandpa stigma. A few of them looked great. I'd love to have a new CTS-V, but then I saw the price tag and remembered why I won't be in a Caddy anytime soon LOL.

I know it won't happen but I'd still love to see them bring back Pontiac. Ever since I was a kid, Pontiac to me always represented performance and excitement the GM lineup lacked elsewhere. They always looked better than there Chevy counterpart and always had a bit better performance, well at least in my eyes. LOL. They should have kept the name plate around even if for just a few cars like the G8 and the solstice, although the Saturn Sky actually was the best looking of those two. It would have looked great with the Pontiac logo!!

I agree with everything you said. I test drove a new regal (just to get the $50 visa card) and was not impressed. It was ok...but nothing stood out and it carries that ugly Buick grill. In our area, whenever you see a Buick lesabre, get out of the way, cause it's usually some 70-80 year old cruising down the highway. It's doubful i will ever be a GM customer again without Pontiac....but i should never say never. As i get older who knows, maybe i'll start liking those Buick LeSabres.

Don't bust out the champagne bottles just yet, folks. Posted today on facebook:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz358/PlatinumGLS/Vortex/ScreenHunter_01Mar301121.jpg

This "GM Insider" probably heard a rumor, assumed it was about the Commodore, then blabbed to the blogs. Show of hands: How many of you think that Chevy will be announcing something about a U.S.-bound Commodore tomorrow?

If I were a betting man: Next-gen Malibu or even Impala. They're both up for replacement very soon, but Impala's already pretty much doomed to another large FWD platform - so I say Malibu.

as usual gm is one step behind.

they had a real winner here and they killed it. by the time this thing ever comes its going to see the same fate.
same with the gto.

What a Chevy G8 this is the first I'm hearing about it! ;) At this point seriously who cares anymore?

Hopefully it packs a punch with a next gen LS-V8 and direct injection

If a car with RWD and a big V8 like the G8 is out in 2014-2015, I know what will be the replacement for my current one...my G8 is headed out to my son when he turns 16. Got to take care of it a little I guess :-)

Not getting my hopes up.

But a voodoo blue sportwagon with a clutch will have me sitting in line, in the rain, at the dealership like an apple fanboi before the launch of a new iSheep product.

New Malibu was teased last night at midnight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a__qAQraFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okg8W3ybb58

Too bad the Malibu won't look anything like that when it does come out. But even if it does it'll be FWD and at most have a weak V6.

<< "back from future" :)

I don't know why they don't just hit the market right on with EIII comoddores?!

This car is one good piece from GM -regardless of which GM brand it carried, and serious I don't see a good competitor among American auto industry, and it and has obvious market segment.

The G8 is already outwith pontiac brand for 2 years now ...why waste another 2 or 3 years?!

maybe it will arrive there wearing this brand an badge hope fully,the chevy cruze is going to be built by holden and tuned,the cruze is now aussie built and designed

http://carsguide.com.au/images/uploads/Holden-Badge-logo-LR.jpg

well this will get you going
http://www.nextcar.com.au/i.holden.ve2.2010.08.31.nc400.ssv.s.fr.jpg
http://www.nextcar.com.au/i.holden.ve2.2010.08.31.nc400.berlina.blue.s.fr.jp g
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/30/1875494/Holden-SS-V-Calais-V_10_600-600x400.jpg
http://img2.netcarshow.com/Holden-VE_II_Ute_SSV_2011_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg

I still say the only 3 cars I'd trade my GT in for are a GXP, Z06 (LeMans Blue 06/07), or a CTS-V Coupe.

100% agree, with a manual trans in those cars.

[QUOTE=G84ME!;687204]The last thing I need is another car to lust after....I DEMAND you remove this thread!!!!!!!! Ditto

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I'll believe it when I see it.

Too bad the Malibu won't look anything like that when it does come out. But even if it does it'll be FWD and at most have a weak V6.

The V6 is being dropped from the Malibu. It will be 4 cyl. only.

GTO_04

I can't really diss the Malibu having driven too many of them from Rental Car Agencies. It's an excellent family type car especially for the starter family on a tight budget. Its been talked about for a while that the Commodore would be making a return as the Chevrolet Lumina. I was right about making the call the Caprice would be coming back to the States just rather stupid it's not available to the public. I would have taken that over the G8 for a bigger and better family car. I would like to see more of the Holden line come over.

100% agree, with a manual trans in those cars.

Agreed, I highly doubt the manual will make it over.

I'm looking forward to being able to get another car like the G8. This thing is awesome. I know there is a market for it. It's not like it gets bad gas mileage, even with having the v8. That's what a 6 spd auto and high gear ratio will do for you. 26mpg on the hwy is unbelievable. I'm sure they'll add the 6 spd manual as an option when it finally does happen.

Too bad GM said they're making another FWD nofunmobile instead.

I hear if GM doesn't hit the right numbers with its Fuel mileage on its newest Efficient autos doom will come from government control like the 70s when V8 horsepower came to a grinding halt .... realistically id rather they get to keep what they have as in the camaro corvette and cts coupe first then lets reintroduce the Holden models

I will be done paying for my GXP next April....I guess "Ethel" needs a break, so I would have to get this new car rumored to be coming. Lumina SS is what I saw on other forums.

Wouldn't be surprised if they called it Impala...or maybe they'll resurrect a name that hasn't been brought back yet like Chevelle

...or maybe they'll resurrect a name that hasn't been brought back yet like Chevelle

I wouldn't be totatly opposed to that since I own one. I'd just hope it didn't look like ass though. A coupe would be the ish!

I really wish they would bring the Holden name to the US and Canada, but it will never happen.

Totally agree with G-WhyNot, bring Holden to the US!

I JUST WANT (another) ONE!

well this will get you going
http://www.nextcar.com.au/i.holden.ve2.2010.08.31.nc400.ssv.s.fr.jpg
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/30/1875494/Holden-SS-V-Calais-V_10_600-600x400.jpg
http://img2.netcarshow.com/Holden-VE_II_Ute_SSV_2011_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg

Yes, pics of Holdens and HSV's got me going years ago :)
Very happy to own the G8, and will keep her for ever!

The V6 is being dropped from the Malibu. It will be 4 cyl. only.

GTO_04

That's even better news. GM sucks, I wish they had gone bankrupt. It'd be better than the abomanation that's left now.

How soon will we see the Holden Police cars in public hands?


http://autoholics.com/2011/06/24/One-Dealership-Will-Defiantly-Sell-Caprice-Cop-Cars-To-The-Public-545389?utm_source=CDnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CopCaprice

Only 13 made and of course most likely spoken for, I really really wish I hadn't left my old job. I would have been able to buy one.

I wouldn't hold my breath on a successor to the G8. According to this article, GM is about to pull the plug on Holden:

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011/06/gm-warns-it-may-abandon-australian-operations/

Like I said before I'll believe it when I see it on the streets. And it doesn't look like that will be happening any time soon.

GTO_04

How soon will we see the Holden Police cars in public hands?


http://autoholics.com/2011/06/24/One-Dealership-Will-Defiantly-Sell-Caprice-Cop-Cars-To-The-Public-545389?utm_source=CDnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CopCaprice

Chevrolet says we'll seem them any time now. GA and IA are reported to have them on the road. www.chevroletcapriceppv.com

I wouldn't hold my breath on a successor to the G8. According to this article, GM is about to pull the plug on Holden:

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011/06/gm-warns-it-may-abandon-australian-operations/

Like I said before I'll believe it when I see it on the streets. And it doesn't look like that will be happening any time soon.

GTO_04

That's a joke, the Aussies won't let Holden go bye bye.

Chevrolet says we'll seem them any time now. GA and IA are reported to have them on the road. www.chevroletcapriceppv.com (http://www.chevroletcapriceppv.com)

I will have to keep my eyes peeled and see if there are any running around Des Moines.

Maybe Holden will not go bye-bye, but rather be built somewhere else (US) and shipped to Australia. US built means that the Chevy SS might be a reality, but not as a Holden import.



A man can dream!

^ That wouldn't last long when they see how the UAW screws up cars all the time.

I will have to keep my eyes peeled and see if there are any running around Des Moines.
I've seen a few of the new Caprice models on Karl Chevrolet's lot in Ankeny. I don't know if they were for public sale or for police/fleet sale only. They were parked in the fleet section of the lot with the trucks, vans, and chassis cabs.

I've seen a few of the new Caprice models on Karl Chevrolet's lot in Ankeny. I don't know if they were for public sale or for police/fleet sale only. They were parked in the fleet section of the lot with the trucks, vans, and chassis cabs.

Police only an only 13 or so made it into public hands because if a technicality. Chevrolet said they have fixed this issue and from here on out it's police agency only. They are detective models only so far in the states but the cruiser model should be here real soon.

Here's the thing though, the public can get a hold of Police Fleet Vehicles. If you work for certain companies you're automatically credited ''stock'' because of their use of fleet vehicles from such providers of Ford and GM and or so on. This allows you to access Fleet Stock and purchase Fleet Vehicles for your own use because of the company you work for. Like I working for U-Haul allowed me access to purchase Ford and GM Fleet Vehicles if I wished this would include Police Interceptors. If you purchased normal vehicles you got the X-Plan.

Here's the thing though, the public can get a hold of Police Fleet Vehicles. If you work for certain companies you're automatically credited ''stock'' because of their use of fleet vehicles from such providers of Ford and GM and or so on. This allows you to access Fleet Stock and purchase Fleet Vehicles for your own use because of the company you work for. Like I working for U-Haul allowed me access to purchase Ford and GM Fleet Vehicles if I wished this would include Police Interceptors. If you purchased normal vehicles you got the X-Plan.

This would be d@mn nice if factual.

Did anyone actually swing by the Karl Chevrolet dealership and inquire about the public purchasing them?

From my understanding they're 100% off limits to J.Q. Public. I wish I still worked at U-Haul I would have gotten my paperwork and sent an inquiry as to if I can purchase a Caprice. And yes it is factual, you just had to have certain paperwork to present to the fleet managers for purchasing vehicles when I worked for U-Haul.

Interesting flaw in the paperwork..

I know I should have bought a Police Vicky when I was working there.

Not only that, but new and almost-new police cars get sold if they get damaged during shipping: for example, a car is driven off the truck and scrapes up its back bumper. Even if there's nothing really wrong with the car, the bumper will get fixed and then the car sold off with no miles on it (not sure if that only happens if the customer complains or not?). A number of agencies in the U.S. carry "new" police cars for sale to anyone, even the general public. So, it won't take long for new Caprices to end up in public hands.

^ Very True maybe I can snag one for the wife!

Let me know ! I want one... Strange all the things one can learn on this site... go g8 !

If there is a g8 successor it would be the.cts v sedan.... Which is double the price and if we want to see a real one...they better bring pontiac back

Hey I've seen the new caprice in some photos from a dealership and there is no way in this world i would by one. GM has changed the grill to accomadate the bow tie and also changed the hoods on them as well. The only way i would buy on of these cars is if they let holden do the dang bodystyling of the car and for gm to leave it the hell alone. oh yea, and if i'm not mistaken the actual new caprice's are longer than the G8'S. GM and the LA County Sherriffs Dept. were working together on this car specifically for PPV use. LACSD is the only law enforcement division in the US to certify a vehicle or a tire for PPV use. Learned that in a Bridgeston/Firestone training class online through their(BS/FS) TIRESTARZ program. Had to know that before I could sell the Firehawk GT Pursuit Tires to local and state police agencies.

to date, gm has no CREDIBLE replacement for the g8 in the pipeline. the proposed SS is nothing more than that.....'proposed.' as g8's are now increasing in mileage and running out of warranty, buyers will be looking for an attractive and higher performing rear drive replacement in the 1-2 year window. gm has nothing that will be here in that time frame. meanwhile, chrysler is marching on with more powerful restyled chargers and 300c, and gm will have lost thousands of buyers to dodge, and late to the party .........again.

wake up gm...you were able to bring someone like me back from nissan and toyota with the g8, now with no replacement in sight, by the time my warranty runs out, my new car $$ could be going into the pockets of infiniti or chrysler. if you want customer loyalty, give the masses what they are asking for. this is as simple as it gets in marketing 101.

During the Woodward cruise special on TV, they interviewed the head designer for Chevy. He said something "special" was in the works, but didnt say anything else.

I spoke with a cop from my hometown area that says they have the new Chevy Caprice ready to be delivered. He said it looked very close to my GXP and was rated as having 396 hp.

Where is that hometown area? I'm glad it's back in some form. I frankly don't know why as a cop ride aint in my future. See if I can outrun one maybe... Nah dumb idea:judge::drink:

The police force ordering these cars is in Vernon County, WI.

During the Woodward cruise special on TV, they interviewed the head designer for Chevy. He said something "special" was in the works, but didnt say anything else.

i'll believe it when i see it!

I'm pretty sure I saw a silver Caprice in a driveway today. You'd never know it was anything special if You didn't recognize one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Caprice-CAPRICE-POLI-CAPRICE-POLI-New-/330603297209?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4cf97df9b9

lol

looks like it has LED headlights. Will those fit the G8?

http://adamsonlinephotos.shutterfly.com/pictures/57

http://adamsonlinephotos.shutterfly.com/pictures/57

saw a caprice in person today at Berger Chevrolet in grand rapids mi. Stripped down for police use but pretty cool to see non the less.

Looks ok but kind of bland-ish. The G8 has that look too, a bit of "every car". Like the new Mazda 6. B-b-b-boring. The previous generation looked better. Dodge/Chrysler at least makes attractive or distinctive looking vehicles regardless of how good they are besides.

And in the age of so many new and everyday cars having so many creature comforts and luxuries (trickle down is lovely) the G8 is seeming a bit bland and boring. It's nice and big inside-and I can get a speeding ticket easily. That, I don't need anymore.

Surely it would be better to privately import a Middle Eastern Caprice SS or Royale rather than pay $100k for a stripper Caprice?

The Caprice's headlamps are conventional incandescent with low-beam projectors, and would not fit a Commodore. In Australia the stock Caprice parkers are blue-tinted incandescent with the main beam a "bi-xenon" projector with auto-levelling & washers, plus incandescent high beam.

Cheers.