So I was coming through Toledo on my way up to Detroit Metro and I see a silver SRT-8 Charger coming up in my mirror hard and fast. Traffic keeps us from really getting a chance to play, so we play lane change tag for a bit till we cross into Mich. We tool along at about 90 till we come across a couple open lanes and we open them up. We run pretty much neck and neck up to 110 and I start to pull on him, his buddy slapping the dash, like "come on man you can't let him beat you". Up to 145 he could never get passed my rear doors. I see him give a thumbs up out of the window and we both settle down back to 85:driving:

It is unreal how comfortable this car is at high speeds....Cruising 85 is like 55, and even at 145 this car doesn't feel uncomfortable.
What I wouldn't give to play on the Autobahn with this car. Though I hear it's not as much fun anymore as it was in the 90's when I was there.:whine:

Nice run Jay. Tell Tigger to quit pouncing on everything. LOL

Yea....If Tigger would only pounce off the line like he does rolling down the highway....But he'll get there. I think I might sell my Street Glide and dedicate what ever I make off of that to support Tigger upgrades. I'll never make it to spring before I upgrade, lol.

Nice run! Sounded like a cool race......



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LOL. I know the feeling. Blue light specials, everything must go! I just want headers and TQ converter so the tune can begin, so by fall it is maxed out. I want to pounce on a fellow pouncer! LMAO

I just want headers and TQ converter so the tune can begin, so by fall it is maxed out.

:iagree: +1 I'm such a copy cat. I totally agree with this! :)




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Yea I wish I could I could have run him from a dead stop. I'm assuming he was stock, but not sure. I took an RT out at Milan by over a second, curious how close the SRT will be.

I have a black R/T I see about every other week and he always wants to try me. I finally had to tell him it is only going to get worse every time because I never stop working on my car. I raced him when I was stock and so on. He states "But I have Flowmasters and a K&N" AND? LMAO!!

I have one road that I a have always donr my high speed runs on... it is dead straigt no one is sver out there the surface is a little rough and the terrain rolls a little....

I took a z28 out tere a few years ago and it felt ragged... that was at 159

The G8 felt like ok I am o the edge... no i am not.... yes i am... no i am not... that was at 139

It was weird... the camaro I knew was at its limits for the whole road and I had to really focus... the G8 felt like it was messing with me and trying to make sure i was a wake.

Not to burst your bubble but he had a passenger and you didn't, so thats an extra 150 pounds (at least), not what I call a fair race.

Not to burst your bubble but he had a passenger and you didn't, so thats an extra 150 pounds (at least), not what I call a fair race.
Actually to burst "your bubble"....I had three...So how much more of a fair race do you want?

Please forgive me.... master. :hail:

Unpossible!

SRT's are built in a special garage in heaven, and delivered to the dealerships by jesus himself!

LMAO! :The_Villagers: The SRT police are here now! LOL

Unpossible!

SRT's are built in a special garage in heaven, and delivered to the dealerships by jesus himself!


Hilarious! :gr_jest:

will a modified g8 beat a modified srt8? (bolt ons only)

I wouldn't think so. In the (I might be misquoting here) the Motor Trend article the stock SRT-8 could only stay a fender in front of the G8....I could only keep a 1/2 a car on what I believe to be a stock SRT-8. So equal bolt-ons gives the advantage back to the SRT-8. :( But hell, less HP, smaller motor, ok not by much, lol, and we only get beat by a fender? We still win!

.....And save 10+K

Speed costs. The real question is, if you spend the same amount of money, which car is faster?

Speed costs. The real question is, if you spend the same amount of money, which car is faster?

Well considering they they cost 10k more, The G8 would be faster. I think we covered the $ for $ here already. Both are great cars, the
G8s cost allows you to mod a lot more in the begining.

They weigh more, (keep in mind I won't pay for a sunroof). It's just I've seen a used one (chrysler, that looks like new) for 25k.

Well considering they they cost 10k more, The G8 would be faster. I think we covered the $ for $ here already. Both are great cars, the
G8s cost allows you to mod a lot more in the begining.

$ for $, my gutted Honda Civic is faster! Get with the program:slap:.

:)

What's a honda civic? Oh how I dream of living in that world.

What's a honda civic? Oh how I dream of living in that world.

It's the 'spare tire' for my SRT-8. :)

$ for $, my gutted Honda Civic is faster! Get with the program:slap:.

:)

Here we go! No you gutted civic is not faster. We were comparing new for new. I can find a 78 Malibu in put 15k in it total and destroy 98% of all mopar STREET cars ever made, but that was not the issue and you and I are way past this now.

Unpossible!

SRT's are built in a special garage in heaven, and delivered to the dealerships by jesus himself!

Ah yes, but the devil builds the G8! Lol.

That's an excellent kill, definitely a stock-tune SRT-8. However with a 106mph trap speed, I'm surprised you beat him on the highway, let alone pull him at 110mph. 3rd gear peaks at about 120mph in an SRT-8 before hitting 4th, a 1:1 gear.

You guys have any friends with SRT-8s you're going to run? Be sure to tell them to turn the ESP fully off and let the tranny shift itself!

That's an excellent kill, definitely a stock-tune SRT-8. However with a 106mph trap speed, I'm surprised you beat him on the highway, let alone pull him at 110mph. 3rd gear peaks at about 120mph in an SRT-8 before hitting 4th, a 1:1 gear.

You guys have any friends with SRT-8s you're going to run? Be sure to tell them to turn the ESP fully off and let the tranny shift itself!

Well, if you've driven a modded and tuned G8 you wouldn't be surprised. This car wakes up immediately in the 90-100 MPH, and takes off like a bat outta hell. A few more tweeks and even a modded SRT-8 will taste the exhaust of the G8! :wink2:

Well, if you've driven a modded and tuned G8 you wouldn't be surprised. This car wakes up immediately in the 90-100 MPH, and takes off like a bat outta hell. A few more tweeks and even a modded SRT-8 will taste the exhaust of the G8! :wink2:

Considering your ET and trap speed is what an SRT-8 runs stock, and 104mph is the top speed in 3rd gear, that really doesn't make sense unless the engine is really peaky.

The only explanation is your tune considering your stock hp peak is at 92mph, but your trap speed says otherwise in terms of the outcome.

Even so, nice kill, but I think you got lucky.

Deuuuce, I gotta ask, why exactly are you here? Just to keep us on track? Make sure that whale of an SRT gets the proper respect?

Thanks for the help.

Deuuuce, I gotta ask, why exactly are you here? Just to keep us on track? Make sure that whale of an SRT gets the proper respect?

Thanks for the help.

Go look around, I like kill stories. I would give a G8 the same respect relative to it's opponent.

You're welcome, anytime.

Considering your ET and trap speed is what an SRT-8 runs stock, and 104mph is the top speed in 3rd gear, that really doesn't make sense unless the engine is really peaky.

The only explanation is your tune considering your stock hp peak is at 92mph, but your trap speed says otherwise in terms of the outcome.

Even so, nice kill, but I think you got lucky.

Your first mistake is assuming that I am stock.....I'm not. I've obtained speeds of over 110 in third gear. I do believe in my first post I stated it was against what I was pretty sure to be a "stock" SRT-8. I don't doubt a tuned SRT would be a different story....Never claimed otherwise. Trust me...When Mike at New Era Performance and I are done with this car, there won't an over-priced, under powered Mopar "Sled" that will even come close to touching me.

Your first mistake is assuming that I am stock.....I'm not. I've obtained speeds of over 110 in third gear. I do believe in my first post I stated it was against what I was pretty sure to be a "stock" SRT-8. I don't doubt a tuned SRT would be a different story....Never claimed otherwise. Trust me...When Mike at New Era Performance and I are done with this car, there won't an over-priced, under powered Mopar "Sled" that will even come close to touching me.

Is your listed trap speed after your mods? That's the crux of the issue. If it was before the tune, I can see this happening. BTW, what is the redline for tuned G8s?

Over-priced? Nice dig. There are good reasons the G8 costs less (fold-down rear seats, nav, bluetooth and SRT-8 Track Experience along with the stock performance/handling). It's also ironic a G8 owner calling an SRT-8 underpowered.

Here are some benchmarks for you to meet. Hope you've got a lot of money to spend if you think you're going be much faster than high 10s in the mid 120s.
http://www.lxforums.com/board/timeslips.php

After all those headaches of modding, time down, tuning, etc. an E55 with a pulley and tune would be my choice. Or an E63 with bolt-ons.

:The_Villagers: :banghead: I will leave it at that!

:The_Villagers: :banghead: I will leave it at that!

Release the hounds! :)

I have to say that Magnacharger package is a nice set-up.

Just be sure the fuel and associated electrical stuff is sorted out.

Release the hounds! :)

I have to say that Magnacharger package is a nice set-up.

Just be sure the fuel and associated electrical stuff is sorted out.

If I go Supercharge + GM, I will just wait for the new CTS-V and get factory installed and GM supported go-fast parts. Having a voided warranty and being between the manufacturer and the after-market guy with a blown motor is not a good place to be.

If I go Supercharge + GM, I will just wait for the new CTS-V and get factory installed and GM supported go-fast parts. Having a voided warranty and being between the manufacturer and the after-market guy with a blown motor is not a good place to be.

Do a lot of Magna Charger equipped cars blow their motors?

Links?

Do a lot of Magna Charger equipped cars blow their motors?

Links?

No, not many at all that I know of (at least on LS2s). The one case I knew of was likely a Mfg Defect, but it sucked not being covered by warranty. It is always good to have only one throat to choke. :)

I wouldn't think so. In the (I might be misquoting here) the Motor Trend article the stock SRT-8 could only stay a fender in front of the G8....I could only keep a 1/2 a car on what I believe to be a stock SRT-8. So equal bolt-ons gives the advantage back to the SRT-8. :( But hell, less HP, smaller motor, ok not by much, lol, and we only get beat by a fender? We still win!

How maxxed out is the SRT8 engine? Geven how restricted the stock G8's engine is, I'm not sure equal bolt ons would give the SRT8 the edge. Isn't it likely the SRT is more more maxxed out to begin with and would gain less from bolt ons like a CAI and tune?

PLus at triple digit speeds, the truck like aerodynamics of the Dodge will come into play.

Fact is there is a more evolved predator out there now. Word is getting around...saw an SRT8 the other day and he purposely stayed back behind me.

He must of had a bunch of 80# bags of concrete in the truck. did he happen to pull out of the local Home Depot before you raced??

How maxxed out is the SRT8 engine? Geven how restricted the stock G8's engine is, I'm not sure equal bolt ons would give the SRT8 the edge. Isn't it likely the SRT is more more maxxed out to begin with and would gain less from bolt ons like a CAI and tune?

PLus at triple digit speeds, the truck like aerodynamics of the Dodge will come into play.

Fact is there is a more evolved predator out there now. Word is getting around...saw an SRT8 the other day and he purposely stayed back behind me.

I guess 'maxxed' out is relative to where you are starting:). Off the factory floor, the SRT8 will dyno 370HP to the wheels. That is the starting point. Add intake, exhaust, and tune and you will see between 410 and 425 at the wheels. Of course, the SRT comes with factory headers, hot cam, and free flowing heads...... so there is a reason why one 6 liter moter makes more power than another.
Most SRT8's I have seen with similar Mods to ManofSteel run 12.x seconds each and every run.

I guess 'maxxed' out is relative to where you are starting:). Off the factory floor, the SRT8 will dyno 370HP to the wheels. That is the starting point. Add intake, exhaust, and tune and you will see between 410 and 425 at the wheels. Of course, the SRT comes with factory headers, hot cam, and free flowing heads...... so there is a reason why one 6 liter moter makes more power than another.
Most SRT8's I have seen with similar Mods to ManofSteel run 12.x seconds each and every run.

x2. It's is a 10.5:1 compression motor with 2 spark plugs per cylinder. I would hardly say it's maxed out. I dyno'd 365rwhp stock and that is about low-average. Dynos all differ, of course.

Any SRT-8 owner with a Diablo canned tune looks at a G8 GT simply as prey and a stock SRT-8 owner knows it too. The tide only turns if the G8 is modded vs. the stock SRT-8.

I wanna run a srt anything so bad just to see how I fair... my buddys rt magnum with full bolt ons and a tune would beat me by at least 3-4 cars stock. When I got tuned along with the cai and exhaust I beat him by a fender... Id say he is on par/ surpassing a stock srt since he has beat stock srt8 300's.

I wanna run a srt anything so bad just to see how I fair... my buddys rt magnum with full bolt ons and a tune would beat me by at least 3-4 cars stock. When I got tuned along with the cai and exhaust I beat him by a fender... Id say he is on par/ surpassing a stock srt since he has beat stock srt8 300's.

A R/T with CAI, Exhaust, and Tune seem to run 13.5's to 13.8's with a driver mod. It is fairly common knowledge that the R/T really need to crack open and upgrade heads, cam, and headers to be on par with the SRT8. Remember, the stock R/T lags the SRT by 85 horsepower, or a 25% deficit. Regarding the SRT8, less experienced SRT8 drivers running stock seem to run between 13.4 and 13.7, so it will definitely be worth while to run 'em and see how you fare. BTW, does your friend have any track times for his RT?

A R/T with CAI, Exhaust, and Tune seem to run 13.5's to 13.8's with a driver mod. It is fairly common knowledge that the R/T really need to crack open and upgrade heads, cam, and headers to be on par with the SRT8. Remember, the stock R/T lags the SRT by 85 horsepower, or a 25% deficit. Regarding the SRT8, less experienced SRT8 drivers running stock seem to run between 13.4 and 13.7, so it will definitely be worth while to run 'em and see how you fare. BTW, does your friend have any track times for his RT?

All true except you forgot trap speeds which are the factor when going from a roll. The stock SRT-8s will be as low as 106mph on a bad day and the I/E/T R/Ts won't be higher than 104mph.

The head/cam R/Ts are 108mph+.

Last Resort G8 - your friend got really lucky beating a stock SRT-8. It could happen, but if driven properly, it shouldn't.

Remember:
SRT's are built in a special garage in heaven, and delivered to the dealerships by jesus himself!

Beating them is Unpossible!!!!!

Remember:
SRT's are built in a special garage in heaven, and delivered to the dealerships by jesus himself!

Beating them is Unpossible!!!!!

Psshhh! Deuuuce is the only one here that actually believes that! All he is doing is spying on what we're doing to try and stay ahead of us lol! A trip out to New Era in a couple weeks will have me at 420 horse at the rear wheels (not 425 at the crank like the SRT)....more than enough for any stock or midly-tuned SRT-8. Any time he wants to head out to the Mid-West and find out just how fast Tigger is, he's more then welcome... ;)

Psshhh! Deuuuce is the only one here that actually believes that! All he is doing is spying on what we're doing to try and stay ahead of us lol! A trip out to New Era in a couple weeks will have me at 420 horse at the rear wheels (not 425 at the crank like the SRT)....more than enough for any stock or midly-tuned SRT-8. Any time he wants to head out to the Mid-West and find out just how fast Tigger is, he's more then welcome... ;)

About the same hp figure as a tuned SRT-8 or the upcoming (and tuned) GXP? That should edge out an SRT-8 - bring it on!

Heads/cam? You're better off with a supercharger, IMO. At least you can resell it after vs. tearing into the motor.

Do you have names for all your toys?

About the same hp figure as a tuned SRT-8 or the upcoming (and tuned) GXP? That should edge out an SRT-8 - bring it on!

Heads/cam? You're better off with a supercharger, IMO. At least you can resell it after vs. tearing into the motor.

Do you have names for all your toys?

I don't feel the drive-line will take the super charger, but I'm watching how Mikes at Haddad Motorsports does with his before I make that decision. This cam set up I'm getting will work with the Maggie anyways.

And as for nick-naming all of my toys.....yes, but I won't tell you your wifes! Lol! Just kidding! Don't get your SRT tighty whiteys all bunched up...Oops sorry! She told me not to tell your secrets!!!!!! Lol!

Ouch!!! That's not right! :punch: Now the game shifts to a different level. :boink:

i haven't even seen a G8 around here. let alone had a chance to run one.

Simple Stock for stock R/T < G8 GT < SRT8 (300/Charger) < G8 GXP.

Once you mod all bets are off--it apples and oranges--it just becomes a money question then.

Here is how you beat any SRT8...You get your self a nice bat and go to town on it. :judge:
BOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Here is how you beat any SRT8...You get your self a nice bat and go to town on it. :judge:
BOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If you are saying that's the only way........:wink2:

Simple Stock for stock R/T < G8 GT < SRT8 (300/Charger) < G8 GXP.

Once you mod all bets are off--it apples and oranges--it just becomes a money question then.

GXP - 400hp, heavier than the GT, even more value for the $$, 6A tranny? What's the torque? Driver's race vs. the SRT-8??

I look forward to reading encounters like this and others as I do on all boards. Besides, I didn't want to leave Deuuuce over here with you guys by himself and get everyone all riled up. (LOL) I have a friend of mine who just purchased a new G8 GT for his wife as a new wedding gift. Looking forward to hanging out, viewing and making a post of two in the future; if you guys don't mind.

.....And save 10+K

AND GET HALF THE CAR. WHAT A DEAL.........

i haven't even seen a G8 around here. let alone had a chance to run one.


SAME HERE........

LOL should I even get into this debate. I see Deuuuce, Willys SRT8 and grocery gtr seem to be holding thier own. I am actually pulling for Manofsteel69 to get on up there in RWHP as he will find out getting into 12s was the easiest .... getting into the 11s going to be quite harder and more expensive.

LOL should I even get into this debate. I see Deuuuce, Willys SRT8 and grocery gtr seem to be holding thier own.

There are not too many prolonged debates. Most grown-ups know the in's and out's of cars and simple laws of physics regarding horsepower, torque, curb weight, etc. If they don't, why waste your time on 'em. :slap:

Most kill stories are just 'stories'. :bs: I don't put much stock in them. You never know if the other driver was 'all in', or just pacing you, letting you hear his exhaust, and acknowledging your existence. If I was driving a new SRT Challenger, I wouldn't risk breaking it in incorrectly taking it WOT against some stranger on a public road......:)

Lol! You MOPAR boys and girls just can't stand the thought that you can be beat. One thing you better learn when you read a post that says MANOFSTEEL69 attached to it....There is no BS....I don't have to, nor do I need to BS. My car and myself will back up any claim that I make, win, lose or draw. And if I lose....I'm not afraid of putting that down either.

Lol! You MOPAR boys and girls just can't stand the thought that you can be beat. One thing you better learn when you read a post that says MANOFSTEEL69 attached to it....There is no BS....I don't have to, nor do I need to BS. My car and myself will back up any claim that I make, win, lose or draw. And if I lose....I'm not afraid of putting that down either.

NOTHING WRONG WITH AN HONEST MAN ,I ONLY SEEN ONE G8 AROUND HERE AND THE GUY WAS A DICK.I MIGHT DROP BY PONTIAC THIS WEEK AND CHECK IT OUT,I ACTUALLY LIKE A LOT OF CARS OUT NOWADAYS,JUST HAPPENNED TO LIKE THE JEEP MORE AT THE TIME...:drink::drink::driving:

I like alot of them to. The G8 was a decision after along study between it, the Challenger, Charger and a Shelby KR500. G8 just happened to be the most bang for the buck and still feasible for dragging around the 12 yr old with us. Mike at New Era did a SRT Jeep, and I would not mess with it ;) Unbelievable the power he got out of that thing.

I think that the more seasoned of us MOPAR folks know that you can be beat anytime because you just don't know what you may be up against in the way of mods. Those of us that know this also know that you should never bring a knife to a gunfight so we have a little bit more than just your "basic" mods. SRT8s like ujokin2's car have a pretty wicked setup. Some bricks can be made to fly....
BTW Pretty impressive setup on the G8 manofsteel69. You gotta love the fact that you can take a family car (necessary for many of us) and make the kind of power that we have. Gives much more meaning to that "priceless" expression when you pull up to and run off from someone in vehicles like G8s and SRT8s.

Lol! You MOPAR boys and girls just can't stand the thought that you can be beat. One thing you better learn when you read a post that says MANOFSTEEL69 attached to it....There is no BS....I don't have to, nor do I need to BS. My car and myself will back up any claim that I make, win, lose or draw. And if I lose....I'm not afraid of putting that down either.

Any car can be beat, don't read too much into every post. Alot of the Mopar guys are hardcore car enthusiasts, most of which own other brand\cars (GM, BMW, Fords, etc.). Leave the fanboi attitude for prepubescent teens driving 10 year old stangs. :)

Hello...

gtfo

gtfo


O.K ....LMAO...

This thread died quickly...too many SRT8 guys

This thread died quickly...too many SRT8 guys

One is too many. One Riot, one Ranger:patriot:

This thread died quickly...too many SRT8 guys

I said the same thing...:(

Well you know how it goes. Someone beats a SRT-8 and they all come out of the woodwork. It happend with my post and every post thats about an SRT-8. The Charger looks sweet thats about it. I think we should start ****ting on there forum?

Well you know how it goes. Someone beats a SRT-8 and they all come out of the woodwork. It happend with my post and every post thats about an SRT-8. The Charger looks sweet thats about it. I think we should start ****ting on there forum?

www.LXForums.com (http://www.LXForums.com) :)

Well I invited a couple of guys on over from the lx boards... there cool ppl guys so let em be :thumbsup:... and no sh##ting on there forums cuz they have some hemis that will bust all of are arses. ie ghostface, ujokin2

I just like to read the story behind any kill.

Well you know how it goes. Someone beats a SRT-8 and they all come out of the woodwork. It happend with my post and every post thats about an SRT-8. The Charger looks sweet thats about it. I think we should start ****ting on there forum?

The funny thing is, if we had a kill section. You guys would be doing the same thing to us.

The funny thing is, if we had a kill section. You guys would be doing the same thing to us.

We have one. Not much activity except for me. :(

http://srt-performance.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Personally I think the SRT8s kick ass. If I hadn't stumbled onto the G8 I would have almost certainly bought one, I even had an account set up on a Charger forum in anticipation of doing so. They're beautiful cars capable of extreme performance, just like our cars.

With that said I'm looking forward to blowing the doors off a few :)

Yeah but add a cam to the the SRT8 and the party is over and I believe this G8 has a cam and that's not bolt-ons. Equal modds? the SRT will win by a car. Why? only 100-150 lbs heavier and alot more hp at the wheels, and more important: tq! far more of it in the SRT then the G8.