***EDIT***: Just found out the Camaro is a 2002 LS1 with SLP package w/e that means thats what the guy told me...grr..they are 345hp cars if I am correct with about 400lbs less to pull, although its automatic i doubt its going to change the outcome of the race as in I am getting my behind handed to me.

Stock some guys are laying down 13.2 @ 104-105mph automatic and 0-60 in 5.1 - 5.5 range

I am going to be turkey baist

2 more gears and more ponies will help you greatly - my money is on you, for sure.

Yep Agreed. I say you take him.

thanks guys.

However i think i still want to put the GT on a diet, just dont know how i could achieve this..hmmm

Lane 2: G8 wins, no question.

spend 300 bucks and get a cortex. you'll make him feel bad.

Agreed. Get a cortex, tune to 91, shifts at 50%, then practice your launches.

This all equals dead pony.

The Camaro should have a 3.23 rear gear in it factory. It will be a close race. Those cars can run low 13's stock and most G8s run mid to high 13s. The Camaro definitely has the weight advantage. Only way to find out is to line them up. If you want to make sure you win get some headers an intake and a tune.

What color is your GT? Just to make sure, you can borrow mine if its LR. He'll never know!! LOL

JK, seriously though, I think you will be fine. Line em up and let us know!

Ok i made a mistake in the year, its a 2002 Automatic Camaro SS with SLP package...ugh! those are rated at 345hp if i am correct. I think my turkey is cooked on this one, i better step up and take my bruisin like a man.

Jaxredg8: My car is metallic grey :( so i cant swap :( ...damn it gotta find a way to put her on a diet.



Im thinking the following
Lighter rims (less rotational mass)
seat replacements with race bucket seats hopefully that will be lighter too
Possible CF hood ? is there even a CF hood for these cars? along with CF trunk if possible
intake/ tune/ exhaust..possibly

just my personal opinion, but if you're looking to swap rims/seats/hood/etc JUST to save weight, you are barking up the wrong tree in terms of tenths gained per dollar. Your money is better spent elsewhere. If you want to do it for aesthetics and such, that's a different story.

Should be a close race. I would grab a cortex, intake and an exhaust system. You will be surprised how much a tune would wake your car up. With those mods you will beat him for sure.

he will beat you if he grips. on low end and from a roll. they much like the 02 ws6's if in good working order will run 13.2 to 13.4 ranges around 105 mph. extra gears mean crap... for whoever said that we have 6 gears for gas mileage not performance. my money is on the Maro. my TA ran a 13.5@105 with a 2.1 60ft stock and it was a a4 convertible the slowlest of the ls1's minus the ones with 2.73 gearing(sucks for them) very few G8's run better that high 13's in reality. the guys running 13.5 to 13.4s are running at places like atco and such with very low DA. he should put 3-4 lengths on you imo. just my experience owning both cars.

yup im expecting him to beat me, but since his car has way more mileage than mine I am hoping the engine is not in tip top condition.

I would say he should put atleast 2 cars on me. The weight on our G8 GTs kills the fun.

I actually think it will be dead even. Because you can hold your car in gear you should be able to jump every time from a roll. Here is a vid of me running a 02 WS6 that was stockish. It was an A4 and we went from a 20 roll. If you have stock TM getting out the hole shouldn't be a problem either With the mods I had at the time I was a consistent 13.3-13.4 car at the track. I put car lengths on him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JOFYX2SEfE

Gearing should make a difference as well. In this next vid I raced the same guy from a 20 roll. He jumped out early as you can hear him already on the gas hard before the 3rd horn. When my car shifted into third It really started to real him in. Again I had a 13.3-13.4 second car at that time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oGFON3Rsvg

I think you should be okay from a dig or a roll. Should be damn close depending on what speed you go up to. My runs were up to about 90mph.

If he was a manual you would be in big trouble though as I have been destroyed by those with my old setup.

the huge benefit our cars have as others have mentioned is the much more modern 6 speed auto - w/ a tune it'd be def. in your favor

keep in mind though there have been paper filter stock WS6's w/ M6 trannies getting 12.9's and 12.7's w/ just DR's - have been and still are fast gdamn cars,

Everybody is swooning over the new 5.0 stangs, and don't get me wrong I love them, but they're no faster than WS6's from 10 years ago (in a straight line that is)

the huge benefit our cars have as others have mentioned is the much more modern 6 speed auto - w/ a tune it'd be def. in your favor

keep in mind though there have been paper filter stock WS6's w/ M6 trannies getting 12.9's and 12.7's w/ just DR's - have been and still are fast gdamn cars,

Everybody is swooning over the new 5.0 stangs, and don't get me wrong I love them, but they're no faster than WS6's from 10 years ago (in a straight line that is)

I agree with you on every point. Our A6 is a huge jump ahead of the old Camaro A4 in his race. Those new 5.0's may not be too much more superior to the old ws6's and Camaros from ten years ago in stock form, but once you start putting the bolt ons on it is not even close between those cars.

Speaking as a person who has a 2000 LS1 T/A (basically Pontiac's Camaro), it would depend on what SLP package he's placed on the engine. However, I'd have to say even with the 400 extra pounds, your 8L60E trannie will definitely give you a nice head start over his 4L60E. And besides, a stock LS1 comes out 305hp, while your L76 pumps out 361hp so he's just playing catch up to your vehicles performance. My vote's on your G8.

I think it'd be closer than you would think. The fact that it's a 2002 means it does have more HPs than a 98-01. IIRC, as they began to phase them out in 2002, they started putting LS6 intakes and a few other things to up the power (don't quote me on that). I haven't had my G8 at the track yet but below is my only/best time in my 98 SS M6:
60ft - 2.230
1/4 - 13.971
MPH - 102.72**DISCLAIMER: I need new synchros in the tranny, the rear-end needs rebuilding and the track was slick.**

I believe SLP built all the SS' and WS6s from normal Z28s and Trans Ams by putting the "Ram Air" hoods, free flowing exhaust, wheels and badges. So the guy could just be an idiot and call it an SLP package. Or he could have one of SLP's "performance packages." They usually consist of a base package (intake, headers & cat back) up to a larger package including superchargers, etc.

I believe all the early 2000 SS's were all done by SLP and had an LS1 engine instead of the standard Z28 V8, plus other performance mods.

Every Z28 or SS from 98-2002 had an LS1.

I believe all the early 2000 SS's were all done by SLP and had an LS1 engine instead of the standard Z28 V8, plus other performance mods.

Every Z28 or SS from 98-2002 had an LS1.

My bad. same engine with ram air intake, fiberglass hood and low restriction exhaust.

Bingo! :thumbsup:

From 98'-02' all V8 model F-bodies were given the LS1 instead of the LT1 that was used from 93'-97'. And no, SLP didn't help GM with manufacturing, they only put out "packages" for them. The only performance package that SLP put out, that GM used directly off the manufacturing floor was for the Firehawk. Which is also (I don't 100% know if this is true or not) the same performance package that GM offered for the '09 G8's to re-ignite the Firehawk package.
Now, yes, GM OEM cars were slightly modified over the years, but I'm pretty sure it still wasn't pumping out 361hp. Even with a bigger intake like the LS6 intake, it wouldn't jack up 56 extra ponies. At most, it would probably hit up to about 320hp, which means OEM v OEM, the G8 is still packing more power. And again, as I stated, the 6L80E has got the extra 2 gears that the 4L60E doesn't have.

It's now July...have you still not raced the guy????

While this doesn't pertain to the OP's question (just needs to race and find out), I just learned some new info from reading several threads on LS1tech.com, camaroz28.com, afbforums.com and google.com.

From 98-02, SLP took the Camaro Z28 and Firebird Formula from GM and turned them into Camaro SS and Firehawk. The Trans Am WS6 was built by American Specialty Cars (formerly American Sunroof Corporation).

Here's the most comprehensive post I've found so far:
http://www.afbforums.com/index.php?/topic/18620-ss-ws6-slp/page__view__findpost__p__228449

I do agree with the HP numbers though since my 98 SS did right around 310RWHP on a trailer dyno (don't know if I trust it) a few years ago. GM quoted them at 325 (I assume at the motor).

From 98'-02' all V8 model F-bodies were given the LS1 instead of the LT1 that was used from 93'-97'. And no, SLP didn't help GM with manufacturing, they only put out "packages" for them. The only performance package that SLP put out, that GM used directly off the manufacturing floor was for the Firehawk. Which is also (I don't 100% know if this is true or not) the same performance package that GM offered for the '09 G8's to re-ignite the Firehawk package.
Now, yes, GM OEM cars were slightly modified over the years, but I'm pretty sure it still wasn't pumping out 361hp. Even with a bigger intake like the LS6 intake, it wouldn't jack up 56 extra ponies. At most, it would probably hit up to about 320hp, which means OEM v OEM, the G8 is still packing more power. And again, as I stated, the 6L80E has got the extra 2 gears that the 4L60E doesn't have.