http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1560.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1571.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1559.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1558.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1557.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1556.jpg

damn, good catch... did you get a chance to hear it running???

damn, good catch... did you get a chance to hear it running???


no pics are on the LS1 forum
link to bigger pics

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=103639

Going to go with es on that one... nice.

Hate to say it but I think the GT looks better in he black... loved the concept in orange... not sure about that lower valance in the black... just too much back I guess...

Wheels look much better polished. I'm looking forward to obtaining a liquid red version.

no pics are on the LS1 forum
link to bigger pics

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=103639


Nice, the pics in there even show the seat with GXP logo stiched in it...

This car needs somthing though to set it apart from the GT to the average on looker other than badges...

Yup, thats a GXP front bumper. NICE Find! I wonder if those are the rims we will be seeing and not the ones that were on the GXP Show Car.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1556.jpg

Good catch by whoever got those shots. It's the GXP alright. Too bad 99.9% of the public won't be able to tell the difference between it and even the V6 version. Needs more to distinguish it in my book. The 19 inch sport pkg. wheels on the GT look better than these also IMO. Hopefully the performance will erase those doubts.

Nice !! hate the wheels but I dont think that these are the one that will come on the GXP, I am excited to see a GXP in the flesh and not just a show car, Its looks like it finally getting closer !!

I sent Jim Hopson a email last week and this is part of the reply I got back, I was suprised that he emailed me back, seems like a great guy to be Honest. He didnt tell me anything i didnt already know but its good to here it come out of someone that works for GM !!

I would expect additional information (including pricing) to be out in the
late September/early October time frame. Again, the first cars should be
here around the end of the year, so I may not be able to get the car under
your Christmas tree, but we'll be close.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Jim Hopson
Manager, Pontiac Communication

It's the GXP alright. Too bad 99.9% of the public won't be able to tell the difference between it and even the V6 version. Needs more to distinguish it in my book.

That's one point of view, mine's the opposite - I don't care if anyone knows but me.

Very Interesting! I like the look overall (and I prefer not to be recognized either).

The HID Headlamps are new to us aren't they? I haven't seen/heard about those before...

The wheels are probably JUST for development, I don't expect we'll get those.

The seats look very nice!

~LSx

Needs different rims. Why does GM always pick the the less appealing rims when importing cars from Australia. :banghead:

Copy and pasted from AutoBlog.

Although we thoroughly enjoyed the fleeting time we spent with the Pontiac G8 GT (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/24/in-the-autoblog-garage-2008-pontiac-g8-gt/), what whith its 361 horsepower and 385 pound-feet of torque and all, it's the upcoming GXP model that truly looks to catapult the Australian-bred sedan back into musclecar territory. We, along with just about every other gearhead, are especially looking forward to the six-speed stick and clutch pedal with which the 6.2-liter LS3 V8 making 402 hp and 400 lb-ft of torque will be paired. Of course, the rest of the car needs to be up to snuff too, so we are happy to take a gander at these spy photos of a pre-production prototype in Australia that indicate the nineteen-inch GXP-specific wheels (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/spy-shots-pre-production-pontiac-g8-gxp/958548/) and big Brembo disc brakes are present and accounted for. A slightly revised front fascia with a lower splitter combine with the rear diffuser (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/spy-shots-pre-production-pontiac-g8-gxp/958542/) to further signify that this is the high-zoot version of Pontiac's sport sedan.

Does anyone else think that the GXP will get the L99 for the Auto and the LS3 for the Stick. This could explain the low number of horsepower GM has reported for the GXP and make for a great surprise at release. The Camaro has these motor configuration and the L99 needs to be put in more cars to make it profitable. Just my thoughts.

Very Interesting! I like the look overall (and I prefer not to be recognized either).

The HID Headlamps are new to us aren't they? I haven't seen/heard about those before...

The wheels are probably JUST for development, I don't expect we'll get those.

The seats look very nice!

~LSx

Where you getting HIDs?

Does anyone else think that the GXP will get the L99 for the Auto and the LS3 for the Stick. This could explain the low number of horsepower GM has reported for the GXP and make for a great surprise at release. The Camaro has these motor configuration and the L99 needs to be put in more cars to make it profitable. Just my thoughts.

That would be cool IMO, especially if they could get the L99 to get 25-28 mpg.

Nice! Looks like the Brembos and the better seats made it. I don't think we'll be getting those rims or at least hope not.

imagine if some guy just found wheels like that and stitched the GXP in the seats himself lol

Does anyone else think that the GXP will get the L99 for the Auto and the LS3 for the Stick. This could explain the low number of horsepower GM has reported for the GXP and make for a great surprise at release. The Camaro has these motor configuration and the L99 needs to be put in more cars to make it profitable. Just my thoughts.

On paper the L99 is simply a LS3 with AFM (and obviously some restrictions that allow 22 hp less. To carry forward that would mean a L99 GXP would have around 378-380 hp since the LS3 in the GXP will not be 422 as in the Camaro but closer to the 400 level. Good news however would be that it may be simpler to convert a G8 LS3 into a Camaro LS3 (rather than a 'vette LS3), possibly by exhaust and CAI only, before a tune. It would be presumed that the Camaro will have a much less restrictive exhaust system than the G8.

:pir_flag: On the other hand, the L76 with AFM is going to be put in more vehicles to make IT more profitable, but we won't see any of them. It is another mystery to me why GM restricts themselevs to such limited engine offerings unless it has something to do with cost of federalizing each config. Otherwise, why not a Camaro V8 with around 350 hp +/- (361 an option) and no entry level below 300 - guess tehy don't plan on selling any to traditional secretary market. And on that same other hand, why can't the G8 have teh DI V6 as an option.

The first pic of the rear shows a larger lower fascia that sits farther out than the base model. IMO looks out of sorts with that tiny little lip spoiler. I know for certain I see at least the SV6 spoiler going on my GXP. It will also help distinguish it from the standard G8.

sweet spy shots!

Brembos brakes afterall! but no slotted disc? Odd for a high performance car

front fascia changed..looks nice

the exhaust tips are filthy

Wish there was more interior shots!

Wish we saw more of the car but props to the guy who stopped to snap these
-http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=103639 original post

Those wheels are awful. The GT 19" are nice, those look more like a base sedan wheel. Where's the chrome?

Hard to tell the fascia differences on the black car. Seats look good though.

Wheels are nasty. They better get something better!

Good catch by whoever got those shots. It's the GXP alright. Too bad 99.9% of the public won't be able to tell the difference between it and even the V6 version. Needs more to distinguish it in my book. The 19 inch sport pkg. wheels on the GT look better than these also IMO. Hopefully the performance will erase those doubts.

Completely agreed. If I end up getting a GXP I will probably be looking for a set of 19GT take-offs.

Also, the wheels on the test mule are the same that come on the VXR8 and the HSV Clubsport.

http://www.hsvdriversclub.co.uk/vxr8/vxr8tthree.jpg

Very Interesting! I like the look overall (and I prefer not to be recognized either).

The HID Headlamps are new to us aren't they? I haven't seen/heard about those before...
The wheels are probably JUST for development, I don't expect we'll get those.

The seats look very nice!

~LSx

Who said anything about HIDs? :confused:

Completely agreed. If I end up getting a GXP I will probably be looking for a set of 19GT take-offs.

Also, the wheels on the test mule are the same that come on the VXR8 and the HSV Clubsport.

http://www.hsvdriversclub.co.uk/vxr8/vxr8tthree.jpg
They've been teasing us with the triangular chrome wheels since the G8 GT was first shown off. I hoped we'd finally get them with the G8 GXP, since they are SEXY. Looks like I was wrong and we're stuck with the duds above. Figures. Just figures.

I'm not typically one to buy rims, but if GM puts those sad excuses for rims on the G8 GXP, I'll be A) doing something to complain and B) immediately buying new rims.

Perhaps I should also C) mail the old ones to GM's HQ with handwritten notes ON the rims lambasting them for teasing customers with quality before delivering crap.

what you are looking at are the old 19"clubsport wheels have a look at the opt 20"
link
http://www.hsv.com.au/configurator/

or you can by thease 20" look a like ones for $2500 a set with 8.5 front 9.5 rear just like the real GTS and show GXP ones
thease are the real ones on my maloo and hear is a set for sale http://holmart.com.au/online/prod1914.htmhttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC04828.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/P1030722.jpg

what you are looking at are the old 19"clubsport wheels have a look at the opt 20"
link
http://www.hsv.com.au/configurator/
So the wheels of interest are the "Pentagon" wheels, but thanks to Holden's horrible site I can't tell whether they're 20's or 19's!

Completely agreed. If I end up getting a GXP I will probably be looking for a set of 19GT take-offs.

Also, the wheels on the test mule are the same that come on the VXR8 and the HSV Clubsport.

I sure hope they are just on that test mule and not going to be production. They actually look worse than the 18 inch, base sedan G8 wheels to me. Very unfitting for a car that could be 40K. Here's to hoping for the cool looking V shaped 20 inchers like shown on the GXP concept. :)

So the wheels of interest are the "Pentagon" wheels, but thanks to Holden's horrible site I can't tell whether they're 20's or 19's!


pentagon are silver frost 20"
GTS are shadow crome 20"
clubsport are silver frost 19"

As mentioned in other posts ... the GT and GXP look WAY too similar ... without the GXP badging ... I'd say 99% of the public won't be able to differentiate them.

The GT 19's look much better ... and the front and rear fascia differences are so subtle that no one really notices them.

I will admit ... the embroidery on the seats is nice ... but the GXP emblem isn't the most appealing I've seen around.

Besides the option for an M6 ... I don't see the value in the GXP IF it's priced at 40k. CAI and tune are bringing the GT's REALLY close to the straight line performance of the GXP. If it's priced at 40k ... that'd be there is a $8500 difference in price between it and the GT ... and 8,500 worth of mods can get you much better than a 13Flat- @ 108 LOL.

P.S. I HATE those HSV Pizza wheels.

That would be cool IMO, especially if they could get the L99 to get 25-28 mpg.

The L99 in the camaro is estimated at 23 mpg highway.

Speaking of Seats/Interior---Anyone know if the GXP is going to have the Two Tone option available? I am thinking no--you get the nifty embroidery instead.

I'm disappointed that I didn't see rubber build up on the back half of the quarter panels.:slap:

Maybe they should let ME test it. :gr_devil::gears:

I don't understand you guys that say these wheels are ugly. I like 'em myself, and I appear to be the only one that does. To each his own I guess......

Direct from the General's mouth:

John,

Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of specifics to give you. We expect to start production in September and, given the shipping times, that puts the first cars on the ground sometime in December. Pricing has not been finalized, but I would expect something more concrete within the next two months. Because the car in the photos is black, it's difficult to tell if everything on the car is "production intent," but the photos definitely show a G8 GXP engineering vehicle.

Hope this helps, even a little.

Jim



08/05/2008 11:35 AM

To
jim.hopson@gm.com
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Subject
G8 GXP Questions...


Jim,

A couple of questions on the G8 GXP.

First, any estimate on availability besides "end of year"?

Price still expected to be "a few thousand more than GT"?

Is the two tone interior available on the GXP or just the embroidered seats?

Lastly, please tell me these are not the production wheels!
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/spy-shots-pre-production-pontiac-g8-gxp/958545/


Again, the show car wheels were much, much nicer, these look an awfullot like base Sedan wheels.

Thanks for listening.

John

I read that as "yes, those ugly-a$$ wheels will be what you get". If they weren't he would have said those aren't the production wheels. Sounds like he's dodging on the pricing too.

I read that as "yes, those ugly-a$$ wheels will be what you get". If they weren't he would have said those aren't the production wheels.

That made me LOL. Then nearly cry as with many here I find them generic at BEST and fugly to the point of buying aftermarket at WORST. I think I prefer the base 18's to these. (See tiny pic below)



I don't understand you guys that say these wheels are ugly. I like 'em myself, and I appear to be the only one that does. To each his own I guess......

Yep, to each their own. If someone would want to trade their Perf. Pkg. 19's for these, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

If these aren't going into production until September, GM, Pontiac and Holden could still put the "good" wheels on from HSV. :D

So that's it? You think? :(

For 4-5 thousand dollars you get what? Better seats, more powerful engine (40hp), 6 speed manual, Brembo calipers, some slight cosmetic changes to the bumpers and the FE3 suspension package??? Really? Oh and lets not forget the ugly ass cheap looking wheels...:slap:

They must not have the GXP logos in stock yet as I'm sure they end up where the GT logo goes now...:slap: :(

Not seeing it. The loss of MPG makes it worth buying the GT to me. With gas price increases I will stick with the DOD.

Just MO and my .02 cents!

Not seeing it. The loss of MPG makes it worth buying the GT to me. With gas price increases I will stick with the DOD.


Unless youre a grampa driver and only drive at 60mph on the highway, it doesn't make a damn of a difference between these two cars. Actually, the 6spd stick will probably more then makeup for the difference of AFM not being there, as less power is magically lost from crank to pavement.

You're gonna cry over $100 worth of gas over an entire year?

However, I agree. The HP bump and slight changes aren't worth it to me, but the stick is worth it to MANY people. I think GM would find it more in their interest to release a stick GT... Its holding a lot of people back and they probably won't buy the GXP for the expected price bump.

Shouldn't manuals be cheaper than autos?

So that's it? You think? :(

For 4-5 thousand dollars you get what? Better seats, more powerful engine (40hp), 6 speed manual, Brembo calipers, some slight cosmetic changes to the bumpers and the FE3 suspension package??? Really? Oh and lets not forget the ugly ass cheap looking wheels...:slap:

They must not have the GXP logos in stock yet as I'm sure they end up where the GT logo goes now...:slap: :(

Not seeing it. The loss of MPG makes it worth buying the GT to me. With gas price increases I will stick with the DOD.

Just MO and my .02 cents!

The real reason that the GXP is so much more is actually because it doesn't run on normal gasoline. It is outfitted with the Mr. Fusion from BTTF 1 and runs on banana peels, empty beer cans and eggshells.

I bet half of the whippersnappers here probably have no idea where Mr. Fusion is from.

I bet half of the whippersnappers here probably have no idea where Mr. Fusion is from.


I do I do! :)

i don't mind the way it looks, it would have been nice to see the HSV 20s on there too..

I would have bought a SB 09 gt if they had it with a 6spd manual. Those wheels have got to go. As posted before the base wheels are better, Thats pathetic!

Those wheels just looks so small the way the spokes are designed and by how wide they are. I just can get over the uglyness.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/Wheel_m_m.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/vegts22.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC03323.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/utesm3.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/commodore20with20dtm202.jpg

See, I don't really care for the average heavily chromed or blacked aftermarket rim, with its arched supports and fake bolts around the perimeter. I really like the understated look of the gun metal Pentagons offered by Holden. They're subtle, but still nice. I might seriously be willing to pay $3000 to order them from Aussie-land, complete with crazy shipping and the Holden logo, if Pontiac decides to saddle us with the crappy Vauxhall rims.

The Vauxhall rims just don't work on this car. The Vauxhall looks very in-your-face, so the goofy rims shown on the GXP pre-pro here work. But the G8 is much more subtle. It needs subtler rims!

So the wheels of interest are the "Pentagon" wheels, but thanks to Holden's horrible site I can't tell whether they're 20's or 19's!

That's HSVs site, not Holdens. ;)

Also the rims on the GXP show car are not on any Holden vehicle. I'm still willing to be that they will be on the GXP.

http://www.autospider.net/images/2008%20New%20York%20Auto%20Show/2008%20Pontiac%20G8%20GXP%201.jpg

Oh yeah, it looks like these wheels will be lots of fun to clean!

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/05_preprog8gxp.jpg

Oh yeah, it looks like these wheels will be lots of fun to clean!

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/05_preprog8gxp.jpg
To be fair, the "pizza wheels" won't be any easier to clean. But at least they look better. The more I look at the wheels above, though, the better they look to me. Not to say that I think they look good just yet... That'd be a bit premature.

Oh yeah, it looks like these wheels will be lots of fun to clean!

BTW the 19" GT wheels are a breeze to clean, easiest wheels to clean I have ever owned....

Maybe the GXP prototype wheels looked too much like the 2009 Caddy CTSV wheels???????? and Caddy put a stop to the GXP prototype wheels??

BTW the 19" GT wheels are a breeze to clean, easiest wheels to clean I have ever owned....

Maybe the GXP prototype wheels looked too much like the 2009 Caddy CTSV wheels???????? and Caddy put a stop to the GXP prototype wheels??
... It's because the CTS-V prototype wheels ARE the GXP concept wheels. Good catch, need4spd. Check out this image for comparison.

http://www.cadillac.com/09ctsv/wallpaper.jsp?model=ctsv&size=1280&number=2

The only difference I can perceive is that the GXP concept wheels may have been the gun metal wheels, but I seem to recall them being very shiny in some pics, so probably not.

But this could be a very, very good thing. If Cadillac brings those wheels Stateside for the CTS-V and Pontiac doesn't use them on the GXP, we'll still be able to get them on our own soil.

EDIT: Check out this page at Popular Mechanics for comparison: http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4254520.html

... It's because the CTS-V prototype wheels ARE the GXP concept wheels.

Actually not, although at first look and even upon closer inspection they may look identical. But the CTS-V wheels have a thickening at the tops of each of the "V" spokes. There was either a thread here or at GMInsidenews where this was pointed out and the pics of each were put up and you could see the difference, however so slight. But they are not the EXACT same wheel. Very close as to be almost indistinguisable. :)

Actually not, although at first look and even upon closer inspection they may look identical. But the CTS-V wheels have a thickening at the tops of each of the "V" spokes. There was either a thread here or at GMInsidenews where this was pointed out and the pics of each were put up and you could see the difference, however so slight. But they are not the EXACT same wheel. Very close as to be almost indistinguisable. :)
*looks closely*

*looks again*

... Sure 'nuf. You are correct. The "V"s on the CTS-V wheels thicken at the rim whereas those on the GXP do not. Also, the "V"s on the GXP encroach more on the central portion of the wheel than they do on the CTS-V.
I stand corrected! :drink:

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/m/A/1/09_ctsv_frtleft.jpg
http://www.thetorquereport.com/pontiacg8gxp.jpg

hear is the wheels from the coupe 60 and w427
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/holden-coupe-60/668284/

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-hsv-w427/940559/

... Sure 'nuf. You are correct. The "V"s on the CTS-V wheels thicken at the rim whereas those on the GXP do not. Also, the "V"s on the GXP encroach more on the central portion of the wheel than they do on the CTS-V.
I stand corrected!

Hey, I was just like you when I first saw them. If you don't look VERY closely it is easy to miss. The only reason I knew was someone else pointed it out to me. Whatever the case they are definitely a near copy of the GXP concept/HSV wheels. This should tell GM if it looks sexy on the Caddy it should be a NO BRAINER for the GXP. C'mon GM give us the good stuff.

hear is the wheels from the coupe 60 and w427
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/holden-coupe-60/668284/

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-hsv-w427/940559/

BOTH better than those on the GXP test mule. I like the w427's a little better than the coupe60's though.

Looks to me like the GXP pre pro wheels are straight off of a HSV Clubsport (and the VXR8 in the UK).
Just missing the HSV center caps.
Suit the HSV range, with the bigger brakes and "less subtle" body styling.
Probably not so hot for the "more subtle" GXP styling.

I like both the 427 and coupe 60 wheels, just take off the red stripe for the gxp on the 60's.
They better change the wheels or that will be the first thing I do. Or atleast have wheel options.

I sure hope someone from Pontiac has been watching these threads....we end up talking about these wheels so often, maybe they will finally offer them.

and here's the initial discussion of CTS-V vs. HSV GTS wheels:
http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3919

That would be cool IMO, especially if they could get the L99 to get 25-28 mpg.

First i'd like my l76 to get that mileage

I like both the 427 and coupe 60 wheels, just take off the red stripe for the gxp on the 60's.
They better change the wheels or that will be the first thing I do. Or atleast have wheel options.

you wont to hope the brembo calipers arent as fat as the hsv ARP ones as thear is bugger all after market wheels that will fit VE HSV NOT even Holden by design ones not enough caliper clearance you have to fit harrop ones to clear most wheels :whine::(

http://www.thetorquereport.com/pontiacg8gxp.jpg

Just to clarify. The wheels on the GXP are 19x8 and were on Holden's accessory page until the announcemet of the GXP at that time the wheels were taken off of the site. GM most likely set them aside for the GXP. The VXR/Clubsport wheels on the mule, we are not going to get. The cost to have all the items we would want on the GXP would raise the price. Look at JHP prices for Holden stuff not even HSV. We are lucky to get what we are at a big discount to what Aus pays. Think of all the post if the GXP cost as much as a GTS-$71,800.

you wont to hope the brembo calipers arent as fat as the hsv ARP ones as thear is bugger all after market wheels that will fit VE HSV NOT even Holden by design ones not enough caliper clearance you have to fit harrop ones to clear most wheels :whine::(

That is why I think we are getting the Brembos instead of the HSV brakes for fitment with the 20x8 Holden wheels.

I hope so, those wheels are sexy. We should add a pole to this thread for what wheels everybody wants for the GXP.

Just to clarify. The wheels on the GXP are 20x8 and were on Holden's accessory page until the announcemet of the GXP at that time the wheels were taken off of the site. GM most likely set them aside for the GXP. The VXR/Clubsport wheels on the mule, we are not going to get. The cost to have all the items we would want on the GXP would raise the price. Look at JHP prices for Holden stuff not even HSV. We are lucky to get what we are at a big discount to what Aus pays. Think of all the post if the GXP cost as much as a GTS-$71,800.

Unless you have seen something else official from GM, the GXP wheels are 19x8. The GXP show car had 19x8 wheels and the press info also says 19x8.

http://media.gm.com/us/pontiac/en/product_services/r_cars/r_c_g8/09index.html

While I think the 20's would look good, GM has not indicated they would be available as standard equipment.

Chip

Unless you have seen something else official from GM, the GXP wheels are 19x8. The GXP show car had 19x8 wheels and the press info also says 19x8.

http://media.gm.com/us/pontiac/en/product_services/r_cars/r_c_g8/09index.html

While I think the 20's would look good, GM has not indicated they would be available as standard equipment.

Chip

Thanks for the correction. You are correct they are 19x8. Will edit and fix. Did anyone else see them on the Holden site when the Commodore first came out? I wonder if anyone in Australia opted for them.
Here is link to Holden accessories: The GXP rims used to be on here when the Commodore first came out and now they have new rim options.
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modelaccessories?aid=21069&&modelid=4006&bitmask=1

Besides the unknown on which rims will get the final nod to production, I like what I see while waiting for it.

It wouldn't be totally out of character for gm to change from the pre-production wheel to something else. I truly hope at best we get the official debut ones. If not then I'd opt for something aftermarket like ROH or go Holden OEM.

I wonder if silver brembos will be the only color option on every gxp?

I'm not typically one to buy rims, but if GM puts those sad excuses for rims on the G8 GXP, I'll be A) doing something to complain and B) immediately buying new rims.

I just looked on Cadillac's website. Check out the rim & tire size of the '09 CTS-V.

I just looked on Cadillac's website. Check out the rim & tire size of the '09 CTS-V.

Those rims are FAT.

The odd thing is that the rear wheels are only a half inch wider than the front. Hell, they put a tire that over an inch wider onto a rim that only a half inch wider. Someone's math just isn't right. Unless I find some better aftermarket rims, they might be good enough.

I don't understand you guys that say these wheels are ugly. I like 'em myself, and I appear to be the only one that does. To each his own I guess......

I like em too. :) :)

Looking at the pic of the CTS-V specs again, I noticed that they are forged. Strong + Light weight + 9"/9.5" wide = a damn great set of factory wheels.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1560.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1571.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1559.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1558.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1557.jpghttp://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/IMG_1556.jpg

I'm gonna shoot myself in the balls for not waiting for the GXP

So wait until next summer and trade up!:gears:

I'm gonna shoot myself in the balls for not waiting for the GXP

If you do, get a video & post it on YouTube. I'd love to see that. :gr_jest: