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: Anyone else have issues with the VMS FXP system and Vista?


GeorgeInNePa
08-29-2008, 05:06 PM
As the title asks, has anyone else had any problems using Vista and the FlashXpress system?

Rob Moser
08-29-2008, 05:30 PM
George,

Are you tellin me that the $1,500. I just paid for this HP with 64 bit Vista ain't gonna work on VMS files??????

Vector - can you address this issue?

Rob Moser:whine:

GXPaycheck
08-29-2008, 05:37 PM
George,

Are you tellin me that the $1,500. I just paid for this HP with 64 bit Vista ain't gonna work on VMS files??????

Vector - can you address this issue?

Rob Moser:whine:

I know DashHawk won't work with V.64. I used my XP laptop. 64 bit can be a pain sometimes:madsign3:

GeorgeInNePa
08-29-2008, 06:56 PM
George,

Are you tellin me that the $1,500. I just paid for this HP with 64 bit Vista ain't gonna work on VMS files??????

Vector - can you address this issue?

Rob Moser:whine:

All I can say is my Acer won't work with FXP.

With it being the weekend, we probably won't hear back from them until Monday.

I was just hoping that someone else had a work around.

Rob Moser
08-29-2008, 07:52 PM
George,

My son builds and repairs computers for a living. If there is a workaround, he could figure it out. Unfortunately, it probably would take the FlashExpress system in person for him to make it work. Know there are ways to make HP Tuners work with 64 bit Vista drivers.. Am sure VMS can and will address this to user satisfaction.

No plans to re-"Flash" my system.. Want to keep my warranty in place at least for now. Would love a cam, long tubes, converter etc., but don't have time for dealer fights. Have been there and done that with our boat 502... and know how expensive mistakes can be......
(Can you smell the burned piston, cracked head, and cam with missing lobes) - 3 different problems - Roller cam and "pig Rich" 850 holley have solved our problems - for now!

R0B

PS: Maybe you should become a sponsor and do mail order barbeque.... I'll take 2 racks of babybacks with coleslaw and beans.

:drink:

Norm8332
08-29-2008, 08:27 PM
Install windows xp on a Virtual PC on your Vista Acer. Check it out on Microsoft site.

Or if you have a Full size PC in the house with XP run extension cords etc.

Do you have any friends with an XP notebook?

GeorgeInNePa
08-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Install windows xp on a Virtual PC on your Vista Acer. Check it out on Microsoft site.

Or if you have a Full size PC in the house with XP run extension cords etc.

Do you have any friends with an XP notebook?

Thanks for the tip!

BUT

I just checked that out, unfortunately my computer has Vista Home Premium.

"Virtual PC 2007 runs on: Windows XP Professional, Windows XP Tablet PC, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise, and Windows Vista Ultimate. See system requirements."

It's a start.

Norm8332
08-29-2008, 09:24 PM
Thanks for the tip!

BUT

I just checked that out, unfortunately my computer has Vista Home Premium.

"Virtual PC 2007 runs on: Windows XP Professional, Windows XP Tablet PC, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise, and Windows Vista Ultimate. See system requirements."

It's a start.

It figures, more Microsoft crippleware.

VectorMotorsports
08-30-2008, 09:20 AM
Sorry I didnt see this sooner, it wasnt in our section so I didnt catch it. Is this is a BRAND NEW machine? Is it running Vista x64 or 32? FXP has been tested on most versions of vista but I know there is some new updates out and I've never tested it on an x64 box yet.

GeorgeInNePa
08-30-2008, 12:22 PM
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VectorMotorsports
09-01-2008, 04:32 PM
Unless there is some new crazy update to vista, its been tested with Vista 32 pretty extensively although we still run XP around here since it works most of the time ;)

wreckwriter
09-01-2008, 04:42 PM
George, exactly what issue are you having? Are you unable to install the program, unable to install the drivers, or unable to start it once installed?

VectorMotorsports
09-01-2008, 04:52 PM
George, exactly what issue are you having? Are you unable to install the program, unable to install the drivers, or unable to start it once installed?

Yeah I guess I should have asked that, but I figured there would be more info ;) What exactly IS it doing or not doing?

wreckwriter
09-01-2008, 04:56 PM
Yeah I guess I should have asked that, but I figured there would be more info ;) What exactly IS it doing or not doing?

I'm recalling my own screw-up where I tried to start the program without hooking up the cable to the laptop and got an error......

VectorMotorsports
09-01-2008, 04:59 PM
Ah yes, it installs the drivers when you hook it up for the first time.. good catch.

wreckwriter
09-01-2008, 05:02 PM
Ah yes, it installs the drivers when you hook it up for the first time.. good catch.

Kinda like most USB devices. I've only been in IT for about 15 years; one might think I would know that by now but oh no.....

GeorgeInNePa
09-01-2008, 06:11 PM
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wreckwriter
09-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Damn, sorry, no clue.

VectorMotorsports
09-01-2008, 07:30 PM
Sorry, been busy.


The problem:

I have installed the drivers, hooked up the cable, started the program and gotten to the part where it is supposed to read the ECM or TCM (yes tried both) and it does nothing.

The % counter stays at zero.

The last time I used the FXP, I wasn able to use this computer to get the stock files from the car, but it wouldn't let me transfer the modified files back to the car, same type of problem as now.

This time, I can't even read the ECM with this laptop.


Did it go through the installing new drivers and "found new hardware" when you plugged the FXP cable in the first time? Did it find the correct drivers during that procedure?

GeorgeInNePa
09-01-2008, 07:59 PM
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VectorMotorsports
09-01-2008, 08:22 PM
I don't think it did the "found new hardware" this time. Last time it did.

Thats the problem then, you installed the software first then plugged in the cable right? If so it may be that goofy user control setting on Vista, try disabling that and see if it installs.

GeorgeInNePa
09-01-2008, 08:44 PM
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wreckwriter
09-01-2008, 08:50 PM
Can you borrow an XP laptop or get a desktop to the car? PITA but likely easiest at this point to get the job done.

VectorMotorsports
09-01-2008, 08:56 PM
You mean User Account Control?

It's not that. That got turned off months ago. I got tired of the :do you really want to do that?" bull****.

As i said, the last time I had the FXP, I was able to read the ecm and email you guys the stock tune, but it wouldn't let me download the modified file to my car.

Now it won't go either direction.

Also, what makes it even more fun, when it refuses to read the ecm, I can't shut down the program, short of shutting off the computer.


Ok thats REALLY wierd, I'll give you a call tomorrow and we'll figure it out.

GeorgeInNePa
09-01-2008, 09:17 PM
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Rob Moser
09-01-2008, 10:07 PM
George, VMS and All..

Vista 64 IS 64 BIT. Many of the latest high powered Laptops have Vista 64. There are many older programs that don't work with it. HP Tuner drivers need a "work around" with Vista 64.

My plan is to have my son partition my new computer and put Windows XP on about 80 GB of the 320 GB hard drive. This gives me the ability to run almost anything. Just have to chose after powering up. Jamie ("Daffy Drunk" on LS2 GTO) is not sure how long it will take him to do this. Has had his own computer repair/build business for over 10 yrs, and if it is possible... he can do it.... Will let you know what happens. THE PROBLEMS ARE WITH VISTA AND MICROSOFT - typical situation where they want all of us to buy new software..

Also... lots of free software downloads won't work with Vista 64.

Ain't LIFE GRAND!!!!!



ROB

p71
09-01-2008, 10:54 PM
The problem is not with vista and microsoft the problem is that you are trying to run a 32 bit program on a 64 bit system... at best there has to be an emulation layer, whether native to the OS or as third party... all that an emulation layer does is translate from one system to another, however if one system does something slightly unexpected you get really wacky results... same thing happened on the 16 bit switch... and will happen on the 128 bit switch...

In car terms... it is like using a ford tranny on a chevy... it can work if you throw an adapter plate in there but if either side of the cobbled together system does something whacky you are going to get some odd shifts.

On a side note... setting up and running a multiple OS system is fairly simple. Should take a good tech maybe 2 hours to set up from scratch on a simple but resonably fast system that cooperates. If you try for exotic hardware or omething is uncooperativ it will take maybe a day or so of actual work... running down drivers... well that can take months.

Boomer
09-01-2008, 11:10 PM
64 bit Vista will be the "norm" very soon and is already getting that way.

I use HPTuners with my 64 bit Vista. luckily HPTuners has driver support for 64 bit. at start-up i have to hit F8 which brings me to a screen that allows me to "disable driver signing". if i don't do that, i cant read/write my car. i dont really understand the whole digital signing of drivers in 64 bit Vista, but if a drivers isn't digitally signed, it will not run unless you use the F8 prompt at startup. at least this is my experience...

G8GT594
09-02-2008, 07:23 AM
64 bit vista will not be the norm. Infact Vista is going to be gone soon. Windows 7 will take Vista's place.

Also he said the machine is 32 bit. Try using Vista's compatibility wizard.