: GM OTR Intake, and some others
SRG963 12-14-2007, 10:29 AM Found some good links for intakes. They all apear to be overseas, but at least we have some part numbers.
http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?sofocus=unknown&sbrftog=1&catref=C12&from=R10&satitle=air+intake+holden&sacat=9800%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=Postcode&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fgtp=
http://www.ssinductions.com.au/vzv6v8.htm
http://www.olbis.com.au/ap_template/subcat_commodore.asp
http://www.marranos.com.au/index.cfm
http://www.capa.com.au/ls1_induction.htm
and the most important link
http://www.gmmotorsport.com/gm_parts.html
good find, on the gmmotorsport site i could find any prices on individual components
r.penguin@comcast.net 12-14-2007, 09:17 PM Found some good links for intakes. They all apear to be overseas, but at least we have some part numbers.
http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?sofocus=unknown&sbrftog=1&catref=C12&from=R10&satitle=air+intake+holden&sacat=9800%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=Postcode&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fgtp=
http://www.ssinductions.com.au/vzv6v8.htm
http://www.olbis.com.au/ap_template/subcat_commodore.asp
http://www.marranos.com.au/index.cfm
http://www.capa.com.au/ls1_induction.htm
and the most important link
http://www.gmmotorsport.com/gm_parts.html
Well, mostly o/seas Holden stuff. But methinks within a few months we'll have lots of options from the USA aftermarket. I want an OTR or similar add-on with MAF.
jkgmh 12-15-2007, 06:44 AM Russo Performance OTRCAI Click on image to get larger pic) -
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2093345744_b694f0a9ff_m.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2093345744_62d292ed10_o.jpg)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2120/2091211438_4918f8ffb7_m.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2120/2091211438_4918f8ffb7_b.jpg)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2224/1802239201_1500bccf4f_m.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2224/1802239201_1500bccf4f_b.jpg)
Marrano's Enhancement OTRCAI -
http://www.lostmybeer.com/veotr/5.jpg
http://www.lostmybeer.com/veotr/6.jpg
jkgmh 12-15-2007, 06:45 AM And Corsa Special Vehicles CSV DTI -
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/Deano_22/EXCESSV/CSVDTI-Car02.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/Deano_22/EXCESSV/CSVDTI-Car03.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/Deano_22/EXCESSV/CSVDTI-Car04.jpg
chill 12-15-2007, 08:21 AM looks like that second cai (csv dti) would bring in more air? which one is proven to show more gains? any tests done yet? great looking setups! thanks for the pics!
chrish
SRG963 12-16-2007, 10:59 AM And Corsa Special Vehicles CSV DTI -
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/Deano_22/EXCESSV/CSVDTI-Car04.jpg
This one looks more aggressive. I would love to know the HP gain after mod. I'm sticking with very minor upgrades due to this car being a lease.
Does anyone think the GXP will be supercharged? That's the one I'll buy!
:gears:
chiefpontiac 12-16-2007, 03:43 PM .
Does anyone think the GXP will be supercharged? That's the one I'll buy!
:gears:
It would be my preference, as I'm a proponent of extracting easy hidden hp at the tap of the throttle. For me, and mpg, s/c is the way to go. But I don't think even any of the trucks have a s/c V8 so basically GM hasn't offered s/c in anything larger than a 3800 V6. But right now the 6.2 LS3 in the 'vette is 430 hp so how high do they need to go in a GXP? S/C the L76 and go easily over 400 and keep the gas guzzler tax at bay.
ChipC 12-16-2007, 09:10 PM It would be my preference, as I'm a proponent of extracting easy hidden hp at the tap of the throttle. For me, and mpg, s/c is the way to go. But I don't think even any of the trucks have a s/c V8 so basically GM hasn't offered s/c in anything larger than a 3800 V6. But right now the 6.2 LS3 in the 'vette is 430 hp so how high do they need to go in a GXP? S/C the L76 and go easily over 400 and keep the gas guzzler tax at bay.
They have S/C'ed the Northstar (4.4L) in the STS-V. It looks like the intake manifold/intercooler arrangement on it will be very similar to the LS9.
Chip
SRG963 12-17-2007, 06:05 AM I'm a fan of K&N FIPK. If you would like an update from K&N when they are released, click on the link below.
http://www.knfilters.com/products_needed/default.aspx?yr=2008&mk=PONTIAC&md=G8&en=6.0L
lsx-438 12-28-2007, 08:11 PM The Russo Performance OTR currently has the most runs on the board, resulting with the quickest bolt-on VE Commodore thus far (at the 1/4 mile).
sccaGTO 01-04-2008, 11:23 PM The Russo Performance OTR currently has the most runs on the board, resulting with the quickest bolt-on VE Commodore thus far (at the 1/4 mile).
It looks like the easiest path for air to ram into the intake.
lsx-438 01-10-2008, 06:37 AM It looks like the easiest path for air to ram into the intake.
Sure is.
Current aussie bolt on record uses the Russo intake
12.0@113.5mph
Btw, i ran this intake on my wifes car the other night at the track. Car is 4200lbs and it ran a 13.2@105mph with this intake.
I like this intake:
http://magnacharger.com/images/lowres/Pontiac%20GTO/GTO-Photo-6.gif
chiefpontiac 01-10-2008, 09:51 AM I like this intake:
Not exactly cold air or even ramair, just plain old (??) supercharging - wrong thread.:bunny:
Mike P 01-10-2008, 10:03 AM Sure is.
Current aussie bolt on record uses the Russo intake
12.0@113.5mph
Btw, i ran this intake on my wifes car the other night at the track. Car is 4200lbs and it ran a 13.2@105mph with this intake.
lsx-438: 13.2 nice time! I'm assuming it's a Commodore? Is it a VE, and is it an LS2 or L76?
Also, what mods do you have on your wife's car to get it to run a 13.2!??
lsx-438 01-10-2008, 02:53 PM lsx-438: 13.2 nice time! I'm assuming it's a Commodore? Is it a VE, and is it an LS2 or L76?
Also, what mods do you have on your wife's car to get it to run a 13.2!??
Mods to run this time were
1. Russo Intake
2. Tune to match
The car was otherwise 100% stock. Including tyres (18" factory bridgestones) and gears (2.92s!). Remember this car weighs 120kg (250lbs) more than commodore (it's like a LWB limo version). There's a little write up here:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=89898
Video of run (little boring sorry):
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And this one give you an idea of the induction growl
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bracketracer 01-12-2008, 11:53 AM Hey lsx-438, thanks for posting this info. It is good to know the potential these cars should have with minor bolt-ons. Based on the info I have been hearing, I was afraid that a G8 would be a step back from my mildly modified GTP that managed a 13.68 @ 101.44. I really don't want to go slower. I don't plan to go crazy modding the G8 once I buy it, so it's nice to know that minor things will get me well into the 13s, and bigger changes later could bump into the 12s or better.
lsx-438 01-12-2008, 01:57 PM Hey lsx-438, thanks for posting this info. It is good to know the potential these cars should have with minor bolt-ons. Based on the info I have been hearing, I was afraid that a G8 would be a step back from my mildly modified GTP that managed a 13.68 @ 101.44. I really don't want to go slower. I don't plan to go crazy modding the G8 once I buy it, so it's nice to know that minor things will get me well into the 13s, and bigger changes later could bump into the 12s or better.
The G8 weighs about 250lb LESS than the Caprice. Personally i think they should be able to run a 12 out of the box (with a tune).
lsx-438 01-13-2008, 02:09 PM I know there are videos areound of some going low 12's and they don't sound cammed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ej99...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W0R3...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2OYn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBnXB...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiW8Q...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MY0F...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e38cp...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnDhC...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5_RS6gauBo
Most of the links seem to be broken.
There are a lot of "bolt-on" LSx holdens in the low 12's, and even a few who made high 11's down here. They nearly all have headers/exhaust/diff and run track tyres though. Getting on to run a 12 with factory diff/tyres and exhaust is not so common though, especially with the new VE commodore being heavier. I dont think anyone has run a 12 with a completely "stock" car yet (VE commodore) and i dont think they ever will.
The Russo Performance OTRCAI system was used recently to run a 12.0@113mph (Friday the 4th Jan) - bolt on car. Here is a video of the run:
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Gpdan 02-19-2008, 12:42 AM I love the looks of the OTR intake, however, how would this intake setup do in rainy weather???
sccaGTO 02-19-2008, 05:47 AM I love the looks of the OTR intake, however, how would this intake setup do in rainy weather???
Should do fine. As long as you don't drive into water that is up to the height of the radiator, you should be fine.
lsx-438 02-19-2008, 02:28 PM Should do fine. As long as you don't drive into water that is up to the height of the radiator, you should be fine.
Certainly no more risk than running a regular pod or even driving the factory airbox through waste high water anyway.
You can find some Russo intake OTR pics here (http://russoperformance.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=39) (select intakes)
Gpdan 02-19-2008, 04:55 PM Ok. Thanks for the info.
Sluggz 02-19-2008, 10:07 PM I notice alot of these type of intakes are run mafless. Is there a reason for this ? Is it hard to tune using the maf?
sccaGTO 02-19-2008, 10:42 PM I notice alot of these type of intakes are run mafless. Is there a reason for this ? Is it hard to tune using the maf?
I can't remember exactly why. I think it has something to do with making it easier to tune. I don't see the reason here in the US. Plus, most of the Aussie OTR system are built to accept the MAF.
edfiero 02-26-2008, 06:06 PM Can some of our friends from Oz post the HP (KW) improvement they are seeing from various mods on the VE? Id like to know what we can expect to see on the G8 for the following:
Cold Air Intake
PCM Retune
Cat Back Exhaust
Thanks
ChipC 02-26-2008, 11:28 PM I think with those three mods combined they were getting a 40 - 50hp jump.
Here is another example: http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=75838&highlight=12+sec
I think you can find several examples on that site.
Chip
jerminator 02-27-2008, 08:28 AM I don't know if I could bring myself to cut the plastic over the radiator area to install that OTR intake. It would be better if there was a replacement plastic cover that was made for the intake to fit in it.
SRG963 02-27-2008, 04:16 PM I don't know if I could bring myself to cut the plastic over the radiator area to install that OTR intake. It would be better if there was a replacement plastic cover that was made for the intake to fit in it.
Fab something up, don't cut on the car man.:nonono:
How's the weather down there in Atown? Man, I miss 6th:drink:
jerminator 02-27-2008, 04:30 PM Fab something up, don't cut on the car man.:nonono:
How's the weather down there in Atown? Man, I miss 6th:drink:
The weather here is crazy. Monday it was low 90's, but today was freezing this morning and a high in the 60's. Beautiful clear skies though. Today would be a perfect day to drive a G8 through the hills!
Chris@Russo 04-21-2008, 06:03 AM Back in Mach 4th mickve ran his 11sec pass using the Russo OTRCAI, bolt on car. Here is a video of the run....:gears:
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SRG963 04-21-2008, 09:00 AM Back in Mach 4th mickve ran his 11sec pass using the Russo OTRCAI, bolt on car. Here is a video of the run....:gears:
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Wow, that car's quick!
kerls08 04-21-2008, 08:55 PM Will the Russo fit our g8 gt cars without any major modifications?
Kerley
TaderzNgravy 04-24-2008, 09:14 PM anyone know where to get the russo otr intake, their website is retarded lol no pricing and bearly any info
GeoffA 04-24-2008, 11:49 PM I wish they did cause this is sic. I am guessing it's a comp cam so we should be able to get these in the states... unless it's not available for the L76
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P5Ct7Zs27mQ&feature=related
HANNlBAL KING 04-25-2008, 10:28 AM I sent them an email asking a few questions about the intake. We will see what they have to say.
Russo 04-25-2008, 11:31 AM i like the Russo intake ;)
TaderzNgravy 04-25-2008, 05:26 PM I did, nothing back so far
SRG963 04-25-2008, 05:53 PM Wonder if K&N is coming out with a FIPK. I've requested it, but so far no show.
BTW, you can request them at their website http://www.knfilters.com/products_needed/default.aspx?yr=2008&mk=PONTIAC&md=G8&en=6.0L
jimmygez 04-25-2008, 07:28 PM what about the rain getting into the intake
mickve 04-27-2008, 07:04 AM what about the rain getting into the intake
Hi guys my name is mick and the red ve commodore in that video is mine it has the russo otr on it and has been on for at least 9 months and i have had no problems at all my car is a daily driver which my wife drives to work everyday i am not sure if they will fit the g8 but if you call russo performance workshop the boys will be happy to talk to you there no is 0296073024.Any other questions i can help with please ask.
93612 GT 04-27-2008, 11:19 AM mickve thank you for the help
HANNlBAL KING 04-29-2008, 07:53 AM Here is the reply I got from Russo about getting an intake here in the US for a G8 ;)
Hi Sean
im sure our intake will fit the g8 as it is the same as our commodore ss
we do have a prototype that will take a maf but we didnt bother making
them as we in Australia love tuning maffless.
with the interest we have been getting from the US market we relise now
that we have to put maf version into production.
We will have no trouble shipping it to the US as we have so far shipped
them to the UK Barain NewZeland and so on
If you guys are interested in tuning maffless we have units ready to go ,
if you are interested in a maf setup you will have to wait a few weeks.
regards Justin
Chris@Russo 01-19-2009, 03:56 AM Hi Guys here is the MAf version of the Russo G8 OTR :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/3103559277_917641d8e9.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/3103559051_74eb12e3b4.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/3104913003_9cdd4d2a6d.jpg
SRG963 01-19-2009, 07:33 AM Holy thread revival Russo!
Does the radiator need to be adjusted (leaned back) with the Russo OTR?
johnh 01-19-2009, 12:16 PM That'd be great for nice weather...in rain/snow/salt mix..I dunno seems like the water/snow/salt/slush would just pile up on the filter..
lsx-438 01-20-2009, 02:33 PM That'd be great for nice weather...in rain/snow/salt mix..I dunno seems like the water/snow/salt/slush would just pile up on the filter..
I have run this OTR for some time and there is NO issue with water. I've even run i through a car wash, and it was essentially bone dry. Some people in australia have been concerned and Russo have installed a simple drain plug, however i don't think it's an issue. People have been using this style intake for years on other models and it's never been a problem.
lsx-438 01-20-2009, 02:35 PM Holy thread revival Russo!
Does the radiator need to be adjusted (leaned back) with the Russo OTR?
Yes the radiator is leaned back. The OTR comes with a kit including special brackets. These intakes have been used to set several records in australia, including the current bolt-on record for VE Commodore.
GXPaycheck 01-20-2009, 04:10 PM How much in US$$ delivered?
Hi Guys here is the MAf version of the Russo G8 OTR :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/3103559277_917641d8e9.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/3103559051_74eb12e3b4.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/3104913003_9cdd4d2a6d.jpg
SRG963 01-20-2009, 04:38 PM Hi Guys here is the MAf version of the Russo G8 OTR :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/3103559277_917641d8e9.jpg
I'd love to test it, want me to PM you my mailing address? LOL
How much money are we talking?
Top-Gun 01-20-2009, 09:04 PM I like that design, very clean looking. I'd love one if these if the price was right.
GXPaycheck 01-21-2009, 08:13 AM Guess I'll have to ask Crazy Paul!
ddub_g8 01-21-2009, 03:58 PM I'd love to test it, want me to PM you my mailing address? LOL
How much money are we talking?
I am all for testing!
Anyone know what the gains are on stock car and with a tune?
Billyg 01-21-2009, 07:22 PM installing Holden OTR CAI this weekend
maxx355 01-21-2009, 07:56 PM i wonder how much the water temps go up with that being parked in front of the radiator.
ddub_g8 01-22-2009, 04:34 PM i wonder how much the water temps go up with that being parked in front of the radiator.
I doubt it will affect radiator temps since it has electric fans that switch on at a given temperature.
ronbuick 01-22-2009, 07:53 PM How easy is this unit to install, do you need to remove the grill and or radiator to put in,
a mini tutorial would be helpful, thanks.
Ron
Billyg 01-23-2009, 06:33 PM Just installed a Holden OTR very Pricey. but looks nice
ronbuick 01-23-2009, 08:11 PM billy, what is expensive??, You can pm me if you like, thanks.
Ron
Just installed a Holden OTR very Pricey. but looks nice
Come on Billy....dont leave us hangin like that. We want/need more info and pics. :whine:
baabootoo 01-23-2009, 11:47 PM I doubt it will affect radiator temps since it has electric fans that switch on at a given temperature.
True, but they have to be able to suck air though. That is a LOT of blockage.
WhiteDeathLSX 01-25-2009, 10:00 PM Seems it costs $695?
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