Going to have to figure out how to do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHAfFA3FD5Q

Yeah. I like that. I hope it isn't I Pod only.

Cool! I can hook my Iphone to it then:yumyum:

Going to have to figure out how to do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHAfFA3FD5Q
Hot damn! I wonder if I can load some pr0n on it?

Hot damn! I wonder if I can load some pr0n on it?

Now you're talking my language.

Now you're talking my language.

Doesn't it play dvd's already?

Doesn't it play dvd's already?

I wish, but no it doesn't.

Doesn't it play dvd's already?

Yeah right... GM didn't even give it XM for chriminely sake!:soapbox:

The comments say that the installer put RCA plugs in, so they are just using the video out of the ipod. With that, you could in theory hook up anything with RCA out - portable DVD, Xbox, etc.

I see you guys found my video :)

The SSV has rear seat entertainment as an option. As I don't have the rear seat entertainment, the installer simply 'used' the connection and put some RCAs next to the radio.

I can plug in anything (DVD, Playstation, XBox) I've simply plugged in my iPod as I already had all my songs and music videos on it ;)

If you guys have any more questions, feel free to ask. Here is a pic of my car before I go....

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j162/ironr8/10122007025.png

One more.... this is my favourite so far....

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j162/ironr8/DSC00043.png

I see you guys found my video :)

The SSV has rear seat entertainment as an option. As I don't have the rear seat entertainment, the installer simply 'used' the connection and put some RCAs next to the radio.




Good stuff. I was wondering if the G8 was going to have a rear seat entertainment option. Doesn't look like it for the first year.

I see you guys found my video :)

The SSV has rear seat entertainment as an option. As I don't have the rear seat entertainment, the installer simply 'used' the connection and put some RCAs next to the radio.

I can plug in anything (DVD, Playstation, XBox) I've simply plugged in my iPod as I already had all my songs and music videos on it ;)

Thanks for the info. I wonder if we will be able to do the same thing to the G8. Also, are you on ls1.com.au, and if so do you have the same S/N? In case anyone has any questions later on.

Thanks for the info. I wonder if we will be able to do the same thing to the G8. Also, are you on ls1.com.au, and if so do you have the same S/N? In case anyone has any questions later on.

The 'RCA Mod' should be easy for any car audio shop to do, provided the HU has RSE capability. Another mod I had done was 'VIM' (Video in motion). Again, contact Adrian at 'No Limit' (http://www.nolimitelectronics.com.au/) for more info.

(I am not affiliated with 'No Limit', I simply had a very positive experience with Adrian, and so I give them a 'plug' whenever possible)

My s/n on ls1.com.au is IronR8, but I very rarely post there. If you've got any questions regarding the VE, feel free to contact me here. I'm a very passionate Holden person, and I'd love to be able to help you guys with your enquiries! :)

Good stuff. I was wondering if the G8 was going to have a rear seat entertainment option. Doesn't look like it for the first year.

pretty sure i read somewhere that when the G8 gets the rear entertainment option, it'll have the headrest screens instead of the overhead? that would be awesome

Going to have to figure out how to do this.


Isnt that the NAV headunit that we do not get tho?

pretty sure i read somewhere that when the G8 gets the rear entertainment option, it'll have the headrest screens instead of the overhead? that would be awesome

In Australia thus far, only the long wheel base (LWB) cars (Caprice and HSV Grange) have the individual monitors in the headrests. The rear seat entertainment in the SWB models is a single 7" flip down monitor mounted in the centre of the roof.

and at over $2000.00 for the flip down unit they don't sell very many

and at over $2000.00 for the flip down unit they don't sell very many

True. All I wanted was the Black & Red Hot interior and a Sunroof. The interior was free :D but the roof would have spilled me over into LCT :rolleyes: So I missed out. (However, I did get the auto, and I quite like it)

RSE was standard in mums Calais V.... and my niece loves it! :p Though not having an IR receiver in the front is quite silly really. One can't expect a 2 year old to work a DVD player :dunno:

I never wanted it from the beginning to be honest, I mean the last thing I wanted was to become the 'taxi' for all my mates! :laugh:

In Australia thus far, only the long wheel base (LWB) cars (Caprice and HSV Grange) have the individual monitors in the headrests. The rear seat entertainment in the SWB models is a single 7" flip down monitor mounted in the centre of the roof.

Do all of the VE headunits with the display screen come with Navigation?

Do all of the VE headunits with the display screen come with Navigation?

Reading here: http://www.holden.com.au/pdf/chooseavehicle/fullfeatures/VE_Commodore_Features.pdf

It appears that Nav is fitted as an option separate from the 6.5 screen. I seem to remember it is/can be a dealer installed option the same as the DVD player.

Chip

Do all of the VE headunits with the display screen come with Navigation?

No, Nav is an option. It's a Blaupunkt unit that sits in the glovebox. Holden has actually had a few problems with the unit, my dealer told me this! As such, I got a TomTom unit instead.

No, Nav is an option. It's a Blaupunkt unit that sits in the glovebox. Holden has actually had a few problems with the unit, my dealer told me this! As such, I got a TomTom unit instead.

So does that mean this head unit display is the same as yours, just lacking the nav-add-on box?

http://www.g8board.com/08G8/images/010.jpg

The headunits sure look identical, SOOO I'm thinking this may be possible in some way. I assume also that you can't run the video while the car is in motion?

Maybe the US headunits may require re-adding the rear RCA inputs but it sounds like it'll be very possible in theory.

They look identical but there is a "NAV" button on the unit in the video.

So does that mean this head unit display is the same as yours, just lacking the nav-add-on box?

http://www.g8board.com/08G8/images/010.jpg

The headunits sure look identical, SOOO I'm thinking this may be possible in some way. I assume also that you can't run the video while the car is in motion?

Maybe the US headunits may require re-adding the rear RCA inputs but it sounds like it'll be very possible in theory.

That HU has the Volume on the left side and Menu on the right (opposite to mine) yet the main Climate Control dials have been left unchanged! :p Here is a pic of mine for comparison.... (apologies for cell phone photo)

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j162/ironr8/12012008092-001.jpg

VIM is possible (as I mentioned above). 'No Limit' have a device that enables it. I have no idea what it is exactly, so best contact them.

Also, there aren't any RCA inputs on the HU, 'No Limit' utilised the connection on the back of the radio that a factory wiring harness would usually plug into.

Arrrgghh.....just go buy a street directory. Anyhooz, us guys know where we are going, it's the women who need navigation.

Arrrgghh.....just go buy a street directory. Anyhooz, us guys know where we are going, it's the women who need navigation.

Not all women are bad with directions thank you very much. :slap: I know where I am going locally. I only use nav when I am going out of state or someplace new.

Arrrgghh.....just go buy a street directory. Anyhooz, us guys know where we are going, it's the women who need navigation.
And even if we didn't we would damn sure never admit it!:D

Does anybody know of where this adapter can be made State Side, I'm freaking out to know how to do this!

I want this on my ride! Let me know if and when someone in the US of A offers this adapter!

there is this concept, rca's (http://www.andersonelectronics.net/piegmipauxin.html)

there's also this...G-NET (http://www.gnetcanada.com/navvideo-models-gnet_rgb_gm5.asp)

and this if you have a touch screen http://www.jpcustoms.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=771


I'm sure something like one of these will work, and yes I know there is no nav in the G8, it's just for reference.

Toys like thoes make me want to get a car with touch screen nav just so i can add all the cool stuff to it!

Hi Guys,

Adrian over at No Limit Electronics in Australia, Thought I would post on here seeing that all the emails I have been getting!! Thanks to Bob's plug!

We have been doing mods for the VE commodores since the day they were released over here! So if you have any questions then shoot away!!

In regards to the Aux-in and VIM mod - We have a Aux-In kit which will plug straight into your G8's without a problem at $80, but with the VIM - it will be more pricey then what it is here as it is slightly different programming and we would also have to send a module over to you guys that you will just keep. Looking at around $450 mark for the VIM.

Cheers,
Adrian

Good work Adrian.

You should work out shipping and all that for them.

Will do! if there is plenty of interest over there, which im sure there might be, then we can organise group buys etc... so if you know people on the forum, off the forum, dealers etc... then just get in contact with me and we will see what can be done!

Cheers,
Adrian

Not to ask a dumb question, but what the hell is a VIM? It sure is pricey, $450 wow!

Not to ask a dumb question, but what the hell is a VIM? It sure is pricey, $450 wow!

Video in Motion - Allows screen to stay on while the car is in motion.

Not to ask a dumb question, but what the hell is a VIM? It sure is pricey, $450 wow!


LOL I'm glad you asked... 450 bucks? Damn!:eek2:

LOL I'm glad you asked... 450 bucks? Damn!:eek2:

Being a one off thing for people and having to actaully make a module to send over, gets more pricey. Its there if someone wants it though. If you get it in bulk then the price will come down dramatically!

Over here the mod cost around the $250-$300 mark, but we do it.

Cheers,
Adrian

Looks pretty good, but it would be worthless to me without being able to use it in motion and 400USD is a bit expensive to send video to a 6.5" screen instead of 3.0" (Zune), especially if you can get a laptop situated in there half-decently.

It's bad enough the G8 is going to make me upgrade my car, but now I have to upgrade my I-Pod too???

Looks pretty good, but it would be worthless to me without being able to use it in motion and 400USD is a bit expensive to send video to a 6.5" screen instead of 3.0" (Zune), especially if you can get a laptop situated in there half-decently.

I'd like to see where you plan to get a laptop into the front seat area. :eek2:

I'd like to see where you plan to get a laptop into the front seat area. :eek2:
Yeah, that's the problem. I think a tablet pc around 13" would work best, but the mounting would be really awkward and a pain for normal driving. However, with an automatic transmission, a long trip, and a mount like this (but much more customized), it would be worth the hassle. http://www.autolaptoplinkinc.com/2059225.html

If i ever get my G8 i will have my laptop mounted up front some how. I have to have it there for work so i am sure i will be spending several hours building something just like i did in my current FX.

The 'RCA Mod' should be easy for any car audio shop to do, provided the HU has RSE capability. Another mod I had done was 'VIM' (Video in motion). Again, contact Adrian at 'No Limit' (http://www.nolimitelectronics.com.au/) for more info.

(I am not affiliated with 'No Limit', I simply had a very positive experience with Adrian, and so I give them a 'plug' whenever possible)

My s/n on ls1.com.au is IronR8, but I very rarely post there. If you've got any questions regarding the VE, feel free to contact me here. I'm a very passionate Holden person, and I'd love to be able to help you guys with your enquiries! :)

I talked to the tech at a local car audio store here in Atlanta about this last weekend. The customers at this store are the guys with the Hummer, Mercedes, Porches - the high end stuff. The tech was familiar with the radio in the GTO. He said something about this radio is using sometype of databuss that GM requires for it's vehicles. Which he claims is not a simple plug a few RCA inputs and away you go. The radio would require some type of software reprogramming that even GM dealers have a hard time doing.

Those are the tech guys words not mine - I hope he is wrong.

I talked to the tech at a local car audio store here in Atlanta about this last weekend. The customers at this store are the guys with the Hummer, Mercedes, Porches - the high end stuff. The tech was familiar with the radio in the GTO. He said something about this radio is using sometype of databuss that GM requires for it's vehicles. Which he claims is not a simple plug a few RCA inputs and away you go. The radio would require some type of software reprogramming that even GM dealers have a hard time doing.

Those are the tech guys words not mine - I hope he is wrong.

I believe the programming is the module that NoLimit is talking about. You would need that module to reprogram the radio for the Aux input. So, you would need the reprogram module and the adapter to hook to the G8 radio to provide RCA inputs.

Chip

Being a one off thing for people and having to actaully make a module to send over, gets more pricey. Its there if someone wants it though. If you get it in bulk then the price will come down dramatically!

Over here the mod cost around the $250-$300 mark, but we do it.

Cheers,
Adrian

I would be down with a group (bulk) sale for 250.00.

I would be interested in this as well.

Hi Guys,

Adrian over at No Limit Electronics in Australia, Thought I would post on here seeing that all the emails I have been getting!! Thanks to Bob's plug!

No worries mate.... when can I expect my cheque? :D

so the expensive part is the VIM module right....

the rca arent....

and what does the VIM module consist of? is it possible to sell it to one person and they would be able to perform it on more than one vehicle?

thanks

All I want to know is where to send the money so I can have this on my car ;)

Has anyone tried this yet on our G8 's here? Ill be willing to do a group buy ...I can do $250 ish...Lets get this going....

We are all going for australian made VIM Module, i am down for paying 250 group buy, but before we go into that, arent there any USA built, or tested on a G8? that might be a lil cheaper?

If it works in a G8 I'm ready for $250 group buy!!! Lets do this!

I contacted Pac audio here in the US and they said they do not offer or plan to offer anything for the G8's :(

I guess we need to find out if this is even possible on our G8's here in the US. I sure hope so......

I contacted Pac audio here in the US and they said they do not offer or plan to offer anything for the G8's :(

I guess we need to find out if this is even possible on our G8's here in the US. I sure hope so......

They told me to check back in 6 weeks?

They told me to check back in 6 weeks?

It was last week that I contacted them so maybe they are thinking about working on something now.....

not everyone has a G8 yet :sneaky:

patience is a virtue... i want the manual GT but you guys make it soooo hard

This car is too big for a manual, go buy a slushbox :)

not everyone has a G8 yet :sneaky:

patience is a virtue... i want the manual GT but you guys make it soooo hard

From all indications, the manual will only be available with the GXP. If Pontiac brings a GT/6M combo, I'll be pleased.

whats the difference between the AuxIn (RCA mod) and video in motion?

If i have the RCA it means u can plug in your ipod video and watch your movies or music videos right? or do u need the video in motion mod?

Video in motion means that you can see the video while driving, otherwise, only when stopped.

I have an 07 for edge that I was trying to do the same in, I ran across this product. It doesnt appear to list which Pontiacs it is available for but may be worth looking into.

My husband and I are researching the GXP model. I saw this thread and wanted to put in my knowledge.

Good luck

http://www.avelectronic.com/products.htm

I'm all for a group buy of about $250. Will this be something i can easily install myself or will i have to have some sort of extensive knowledge of how to disassemble this radio in order to install?

Will the center 6.5" display be able to directly display what is shown on my iPod while i'm playing songs? Such as album cover, artist, song title, etc?

So with these 2 mods (RCA + VIM) i can basically transform the TFT display in the G8 into a DVD player for movies off my iPod?

That is the idea, though it is up in the air if it will work with the G8 the same way it does with the Commodore. No Limit was looking into it but I haven't heard back yet.

i would be in at about the 250ish for the vim and rca's

I thought it was a mother to get the head unit out? So how easy is it to install this new part??

Hey Guys,

Sorry has taken abit of time to get back, updates have been posted on LS1..

The G8's do have video in and we CAN do the VIM mod. I will be emailing everyone that has got in contact with me so far regarding this.

Cheers,
Adrian

I got your email and replied to the post :)

Hey Guys,

Sorry has taken abit of time to get back, updates have been posted on LS1..

The G8's do have video in and we CAN do the VIM mod. I will be emailing everyone that has got in contact with me so far regarding this.

Cheers,
Adrian


??? how about about posting a message instead of a e-mail? I know some people, myself included are a little late in the converstaion. Or maybe just posting a link to where you posted info????

??? how about about posting a message instead of a e-mail? I know some people, myself included are a little late in the converstaion. Or maybe just posting a link to where you posted info????

Hey mate,

I have before and would but this forum likes deleting my post!

Cheers,
Adrian

just because you are trying to sell it in pm's doesn't make it any better.
You've been offered to become a sponsor and take full responsibility for the product you're offering. The second you touch the radio with your programming it will void the warranty on the radio and everything connected to it as an HVAC. Please explain to us how you managed to test it on G8 if you don't have access to G8? How did you verify the programming is compatible with all changes made with OnStar and right side to left side conversion?

Hey mate,

I have before and would but this forum likes deleting my post!

Cheers,
Adrian

Hey Mate, you could have at least PM'd...

Cheers

just because you are trying to sell it in pm's doesn't make it any better.
You've been offered to become a sponsor and take full responsibility for the product you're offering. The second you touch the radio with your programming it will void the warranty on the radio and everything connected to it as an HVAC. Please explain to us how you managed to test it on G8 if you don't have access to G8? How did you verify the programming is compatible with all changes made with OnStar and right side to left side conversion?

Hey Mate, you could have at least PM'd...

Cheers



Mate, not trying to sell anything now through this site, and am NOT doing anything via PM. Just letting people know that it is available and if they are wanting info regarding anything then you know where I am.

And don't worry about if i have access to a G8 or not, happen to know some very good people! that have designed the system!

Cheers,
Adrian

Mate, not trying to sell anything now through this site, and am NOT doing anything via PM. Just letting people know that it is available and if they are wanting info regarding anything then you know where I am.

And don't worry about if i have access to a G8 or not, happen to know some very good people! that have designed the system!

Cheers,
Adrian

not trying to sell anything now through this site, >>>>> Just letting people know that it is available FOR SALE or is it FREE??? :rolleyes:
if it's not DO IT YOURSELF it is for SALE

Hmm, wonderful customer service. Still haven't answered any questions.

Hmm, wonderful customer service. Still haven't answered any questions.

it's MY POINT !!! not sponsor = no responsibilitis

it's MY POINT !!! not sponsor = no responsibilitis

:iagree:

it's MY POINT !!! not sponsor = no responsibilitis

mate.. relax.. not my problem if you say it can't be done when i know it can! and yes its available - and no im not selling it on THIS forum!

:iagree:

i get shot down everytime i say anything o nthis forum to try help anyone out, seeing that im not a sponsor... and just trying to help some people out!

so if anyone has any questions then PM me as if i say anything else its just going to get deleted anyway!

We need one person to test and get this thing going for the rest of us.

i get shot down everytime i say anything o nthis forum to try help anyone out, seeing that im not a sponsor... and just trying to help some people out!

so if anyone has any questions then PM me as if i say anything else its just going to get deleted anyway!

The "getting shot down" part probably has a connection to sponsorship rules. Jon is trying to make sure naive forum members aren't pouring money out to someone 18+ hours away from them. It helps the integrity & reputation of the forum. True, you may not be directly selling pieces here, but you have signs pointing to where you do have it for sale. I'm not saying that you aren't an honest business man, but the people running this forum don't have free time to meet employees/owners from every company selling goods & services here. If you can prove that these mods work on a US-spec G8 & follow the sponsor rules, then this will ease the tension.

The "getting shot down" part probably has a connection to sponsorship rules. Jon is trying to make sure naive forum members aren't pouring money out to someone 18+ hours away from them. It helps the integrity & reputation of the forum. True, you may not be directly selling pieces here, but you have signs pointing to where you do have it for sale. I'm not saying that you aren't an honest business man, but the people running this forum don't have free time to meet employees/owners from every company selling goods & services here. If you can prove that these mods work on a US-spec G8 & follow the sponsor rules, then this will ease the tension.

Just to clarify for everyone, im not trying to make money here... It doesn't bother me if I don't send any outside of Australia.

This thread was started showing what one of MY customers over here in Australia has done to their VE Commodore, and lots of people became very interested and wanting to know how, so what am I meant to say to people?? Just trying to help some fellow members out. Thought thats what a forum was all about?....

We have been doing them for over a year here. If people are interested then good, if not then don't worry. Not my loss... as I only mentioned this to help some people out that do seem very interested.

Cheers,
Adrian

mate.. relax.. not my problem if you say it can't be done when i know it can! and yes its available - and no im not selling it on THIS forum!

I’m not saying it cannot be done. I’m saying you have not tested it and you should not be giving promises to the people without real guarantees.
I’m only concerned with your flashing VIM mode. I don’t know how your flashing done – is it looking for the speed related section of the code and makes changes only in there? Or is it re-flashing the entire radio unit? If it’s re-flashing entire unit, that means that anything regarding Onstar and all changes regarding the US will be overwritten and you will leave people with unserviceable unit which costs thousands of dollars. And dealers will not fix it for them for free

We need one person to test and get this thing going for the rest of us.

:iagree:

Just to clarify for everyone, im not trying to make money here... It doesn't bother me if I don't send any outside of Australia.

This thread was started showing what one of MY customers over here in Australia has done to their VE Commodore, and lots of people became very interested and wanting to know how, so what am I meant to say to people?? Just trying to help some fellow members out. Thought thats what a forum was all about?....

We have been doing them for over a year here. If people are interested then good, if not then don't worry. Not my loss... as I only mentioned this to help some people out that do seem very interested.

Cheers,
Adrian

Well, when people started asking if you could build something so that they could just add it on, that sounds like they want you to sell something. Honestly, there's nothing wrong with making a buck. I'm sure someone is feverishly trying to work out how to do the mods in this thread. Everyone else will line up with their money for them to sell the mods. :D

:iagree: someone will still make it i say someone try it out

:iagree: someone will still make it i say someone try it out

not that hard to make it, i listed up the full diagram for it, so by all means anyone can make it.

I was just offering my services..

not that hard to make it, i listed up the full diagram for it, so by all means anyone can make it.

I was just offering my services..

??????????? ......


pm me if you want

Search for the "remove the g8 radio thread" - all the info (and drama) originated there...

??????????? ......


pm me if you want

Search for the "remove the g8 radio thread" - all the info (and drama) originated there...

I'm well aware of all the drama around NoLimit, thanks though........

Hi all interested members..

The VIM module has been tested and works on VE and G8. (they are different modules!)
It does not interfere with any electronics in the vehicle.
It cannot be detected by any scan tools.

The G8 radio H/W is 99.9% a VE unit with slightly different S/W to flip the volume control to the left and other small changes.

I can understand why people are concerned about saftey/warranty issues - but it the system works on the VE's without issues, there should be no issue with G8.

Sometimes it can be difficult to accept that someone else has come up with a solution before you - human nature.

chao.

Sometimes it can be difficult to accept that someone else has come up with a solution before you - human nature.

chao.

I think most people here prefer, "Seeing is beliving".

I think most people here prefer, "Seeing is beliving".

:iagree: And not a smart a&& response. If it works on the G8 where's some video?? Pictures?? Surely took some pictures when it was being tested on a G8 radio.

does anyone know where i can get a VIM tool to change my settings? or if they can tell me how to do it with items i can get.. if i get what i need or if i am able to "fix" this i will post pix and what ever else i can, but for now i need to know where to get the things it takes to change it.

this is very interesting. How one person swears to us he does this for living and the units are identical and he knows everything better than anybody else. And now when a SPONSOR posted pinout information showing they are not identical, we have a new member with his 1st post show up and say that there are small differences and that he knows this even better than everybody else again. :secret:

Let's start from - we do not have xm radio in 2008 G8s and differences were done for Onstar not only for xm. And according to xm module pinout(2009), unless there is a misprint, it's different for 2009 again. Since the car is not even released, I have no idea if that's a misprint. And if you test it on a G8, which VIN number was it on a G8 and what was the calibration ID #s for the radio?


Not a big difference between the units..
The difference in wiring is only for XM radio module for the G8/us market.
You get an extra input and power for the XM module..

Hi all interested members..

The VIM module has been tested and works on VE and G8. (they are different modules!)
It does not interfere with any electronics in the vehicle.
It cannot be detected by any scan tools.

The G8 radio H/W is 99.9% a VE unit with slightly different S/W to flip the volume control to the left and other small changes.

I can understand why people are concerned about saftey/warranty issues - but it the system works on the VE's without issues, there should be no issue with G8.

Sometimes it can be difficult to accept that someone else has come up with a solution before you - human nature.

chao.

Hi dede,
I'm still not sure were your going with your interogation?

The VIM module works - unconditionally! Belive it or not.

It is now a competition about who knows more about the pinouts / differences / resistor values?

XM may not be available yet, but it has been tested on the current G8 units. (You may have been left out of the loop!)

Anyway, there is no real point to this argument exept to say that the VIM works without any side effects to the operation of the complete vehicle.

You may not what to risk being the first to use it and thats understandable, but creating a mass fear campain is going a bit far.

Relax,

You may not what to risk being the first to use it and thats understandable, but creating a mass fear campain is going a bit far.

Relax,

Apparently, you don't know Dede all that well. He's got to be more than just an average car buyer. I wouldn't be surprised if he is privilaged to some inside info in one way or another. All of his experience with the GTO shows that when he speaks, people listen. Dede is the last person I would accuse of a :quoties: fear campaign :quoties:.

Here is one way to settle it if someone state side has the componets for the video (cables, IPOD ZEN, ...etc) and the VIM make a video of it. Or vise versa if someone in Oz has it make a video.
That way we can find out what will it work. This bickering is really sad.
I just like everyone else wants to plug in my MP3 player to watch videos, but we seem to not be able to get past who knows what. TO BEAT IT ALL SHOW AND PROVE.

I understand Dede has a back up camera showing that it will show video and what not. Now we just need to see the car in motion. By the way the video turns off once the car is moving 5 mpg or less.

I would imagine the VIM module simply plugs in between the radio and the cars computer and simply "tells" the radio the car is not moving instead of it knowing how fast you are going.

I don't see how that would have any affect on the radio's programming.

I could be wrong on how it works though.

Hi dede,


XM may not be available yet, but it has been tested on the current G8 units. (You may have been left out of the loop!)



:huh:


And according to xm module pinout(2009), unless there is a misprint, RADIO pinout is different for 2009 again. Since the car is not even released, I have no idea if that's a misprint. And if you test it on a G8, which VIN number was it on a G8 and what was the calibration ID #s for the radio?

I would imagine the VIM module simply plugs in between the radio and the cars computer and simply "tells" the radio the car is not moving instead of it knowing how fast you are going.

I don't see how that would have any affect on the radio's programming.

I could be wrong on how it works though.

It is NOT plugs in between
It reprograms your radio and it is not creating backup and process is not reversible by user…

If that is the case I'm not sure if I like that idea. Why couldn't someone create something that will just "tell" the radio the car is not moving? That seems like it would be the easiest/safest way for it to work.

There is a lot of information going through that wire. Entire HVAC commands go through the wire and xm commands will be going through that wire also. There is no separate wire for speed on the unit.

There is a lot of information going through that wire. Entire HVAC commands go through the wire and xm commands will be going through that wire also. There is no separate wire for speed on the unit.

That data bus is CANBUS correct? Shouldn't be a reason that you could put a microcontroller inbetween and sniff/delete the speed packets, or whatever else you want. CAN is well documented, shouldn't be too hard to reverse engineer. Man, now you're making me want to rip into my brand new car. Must resist...

That data bus is CANBUS correct? Shouldn't be a reason that you could put a microcontroller inbetween and sniff/delete the speed packets, or whatever else you want. CAN is well documented, shouldn't be too hard to reverse engineer. Man, now you're making me want to rip into my brand new car. Must resist...

Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data

it is a two way communication port on the radio. If it would be one way, it would have worked

Don't the Lockpick devices for GM nav units basically resolve this issue on the GM trucks?

Don't the Lockpick devices for GM nav units basically resolve this issue on the GM trucks?

Yes they do, and I am willing to bet a company is out there working on one for the G8. we just might have to be patient. :turbonaughtdy_1:

Does the iPOD already easily connect into the system with the GT series of the car? Any addition cables needed?

Does the iPOD already easily connect into the system with the GT series of the car? Any addition cables needed?

You can just get a cable to go from your ipod to the aux port on the front of the radio to play music. You can't control the ipod through the radio though.

Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data

it is a two way communication port on the radio. If it would be one way, it would have worked

I thought GMLAN was just utilizing the CANBUS protocol? With a microcontroller inbetween, it shouldn't be too hard to sniff and delete data, in both directions. its more or less just a network repeater/filter.

Maybe if I get bored this weekend, I'll take the laptop out to the car, take apart the dash, and start sniffing to see what it looks like. Do you have any documentation on the protocol for GMLAN? If I were more adventurous, I'd rip into the head unit and try to grab the firmware, as well as figure out which processor their using, to see if I could make heads/tails of whats going on.

Let us know how that goes :)

I thought GMLAN was just utilizing the CANBUS protocol? With a microcontroller inbetween, it shouldn't be too hard to sniff and delete data, in both directions. its more or less just a network repeater/filter.

Maybe if I get bored this weekend, I'll take the laptop out to the car, take apart the dash, and start sniffing to see what it looks like. Do you have any documentation on the protocol for GMLAN? If I were more adventurous, I'd rip into the head unit and try to grab the firmware, as well as figure out which processor their using, to see if I could make heads/tails of whats going on.

You da man!:popcorn2:

I thought GMLAN was just utilizing the CANBUS protocol? With a microcontroller inbetween, it shouldn't be too hard to sniff and delete data, in both directions. its more or less just a network repeater/filter.

Maybe if I get bored this weekend, I'll take the laptop out to the car, take apart the dash, and start sniffing to see what it looks like. Do you have any documentation on the protocol for GMLAN? If I were more adventurous, I'd rip into the head unit and try to grab the firmware, as well as figure out which processor their using, to see if I could make heads/tails of whats going on.

it is not CANBUS ....
CAN BUS in gm
High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus+
and
High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus-


Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data -For body control (BCM++)


and no need to take dash apart to start sniffing

Data Link Connector (DLC) (OBD-II)

Pin

1 Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data
2-3 Not Used
4 Ground
5 Ground
6 High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus+
7-13 Not Used
14 High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus-
15 Not Used
16 Battery Positive Voltage

Hey guys! First post here. I don't have a G8 YET, but I'm planning on purchasing one in the next couple of months when I get my raise. That being said, I've been reading up a lot on the car and have read several threads on these boards. This thread in particular, caught my eye.

In my current car ('99 Grand Am SE for those who care) I have an aftermarket Kenwood head unit with an iPod interface. It allows me to control the iPod through the stereo and charges the iPod at the same time. I understand that the aux-in on the front of the head unit in the G8 does NOT do this and is just a mini-plug.

I've read through this whole thread, but I'm still a little confused on what's available and what's not for this head unit. First off, let me say, I don't care about the VIM or RCA inputs. What I want is just something that does what I currently have. I know Blaupunkt makes interfaces for their aftermarket head units that have CD changer inputs on the back of them and that some companies make them for factory stereos as well.

Does anyone really know exactly what's on the back of the unit, if anything at all? I'm seeing a lot of questions on here, but only a few definitive answers. I have yet to see anyone confirm that there's any type of input on the rear of the unit, let alone a picture of what it even looks like. I mean, if there's just a mini-plug input, that's fine. But, if there's a CD changer input, then it's a whole new ball game.

So if someone does tear apart their dash to get to the back of the unit, PLEASE take some pictures and post them and let us know what you find.

Hey guys! First post here. I don't have a G8 YET, but I'm planning on purchasing one in the next couple of months when I get my raise. That being said, I've been reading up a lot on the car and have read several threads on these boards. This thread in particular, caught my eye.

In my current car ('99 Grand Am SE for those who care) I have an aftermarket Kenwood head unit with an iPod interface. It allows me to control the iPod through the stereo and charges the iPod at the same time. I understand that the aux-in on the front of the head unit in the G8 does NOT do this and is just a mini-plug.

I've read through this whole thread, but I'm still a little confused on what's available and what's not for this head unit. First off, let me say, I don't care about the VIM or RCA inputs. What I want is just something that does what I currently have. I know Blaupunkt makes interfaces for their aftermarket head units that have CD changer inputs on the back of them and that some companies make them for factory stereos as well.

Does anyone really know exactly what's on the back of the unit, if anything at all? I'm seeing a lot of questions on here, but only a few definitive answers. I have yet to see anyone confirm that there's any type of input on the rear of the unit, let alone a picture of what it even looks like. I mean, if there's just a mini-plug input, that's fine. But, if there's a CD changer input, then it's a whole new ball game.

So if someone does tear apart their dash to get to the back of the unit, PLEASE take some pictures and post them and let us know what you find.


Read here.
http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1778&page=3

Read here.
http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1778&page=3

I read that. But again, I don't care about the RCA or VIM stuff. I just want something that will allow me to control my iPod through the stereo and charge the iPod simultaneously. RCA connections don't allow me to do that.

http://www.g8board.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=888&d=1209612566


There is nothing in the radio to control the iPod. In the future model, when xm becomes available there maybe an option to replace xm with an iPod controller. That's how it's done on many of the factory systems right now.

Guys, most of us tend to be a little lost when we read this thread,
not all of us are wiring experts, or know what the hell is going on.
Some are knowleadgable and some want to know the insides and out
of how things work but we are all here for one common thing:

Playing video on your LCD Scren

Lets start with simple questions that all want answered
in one single post without having to look through millions
of threads:

1. Where would you plug in the RCA cables?
(will that allow you to watch videos while in Parked?)

2. What exactly is a vim? is it a cable, chip or program you install via cd?
(what is the only function of a VIM, so u can watch video while in other gears?)

3. How exactly do you remove the radio for these mods?
(is it something simple we can do, or do we need expert help?)

AND REMEMBER, a picture is worth a thousand words, so if anyone has anything,
please post so we can see.

Thanks for the picture, dede! That's exactly what I wanted to see. I see a couple of different plugs on there. Obviously one is for the wire harness that goes to all the speakers and for power. What about the other?

it is not CANBUS ....
CAN BUS in gm
High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus+
and
High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus-


Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data -For body control (BCM++)


and no need to take dash apart to start sniffing

Data Link Connector (DLC) (OBD-II)

Pin

1 Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data
2-3 Not Used
4 Ground
5 Ground
6 High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus+
7-13 Not Used
14 High Speed GMLAN Serial Data Bus-
15 Not Used
16 Battery Positive Voltage

The high speed GMLAN is meant for items such as ECM to TCM communication, airbag control and OBD2 operation. The question is, which LAN is the radio communicating on?

Any way of getting all the pinouts for the connectors on the radio? Blaupunkt doesn't appear to want to play and I assume that the GM tech manuals only spell out the connectors that are used.

If I have time, I'll go out this weekend and start poking around, see if I can get anywhere. I'm going to have to dig my logic analyzer out of storage... The interesting part of all of this, is that if we can tap into the GMLAN, doing things like a gauge pod where the atari gauges are, is just a simple matter of tapping in, and having a microcontroller there to grab the data it needs.

I'm glad we have so many intelligent users on this board helping us get these G8's customized the way we want them :)

I would really like to have a high res LCD screen in place of the atari gauges with the ability to customize what is shown on it.

I'm glad we have so many intelligent users on this board helping us get these G8's customized the way we want them :)

I would really like to have a high res LCD screen in place of the atari gauges with the ability to customize what is shown on it.

I'm looking into this. The dimensions of the Atari gauge area isn't great. I was looking into the 4.3" PSP screen, but its too tall. I'm also looking into three individual OLED displays, side-by-side. OLEDS are high brightness, high contrast, and would look great in the dash.

I won't even start with mounting those LCDs until I figure out how to grab the info off the GMLAN. I already have a prototype setup that I have been building for my "race car", but its old and uses senders for all the info. Won't bother with this for the G8, if the data is already present.

I'm looking into this. The dimensions of the Atari gauge area isn't great. I was looking into the 4.3" PSP screen, but its too tall. I'm also looking into three individual OLED displays, side-by-side. OLEDS are high brightness, high contrast, and would look great in the dash.

I won't even start with mounting those LCDs until I figure out how to grab the info off the GMLAN. I already have a prototype setup that I have been building for my "race car", but its old and uses senders for all the info. Won't bother with this for the G8, if the data is already present.

Good to know :) I'll be looking forward to your results!

The high speed GMLAN is meant for items such as ECM to TCM communication, airbag control and OBD2 operation. The question is, which LAN is the radio communicating on?
Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data



Any way of getting all the pinouts for the connectors on the radio?

hm... :secret:

Any way of getting all the pinouts for the connectors on the radio?

I swear I have seen those around here somewhere...

I swear I have seen those around here somewhere...

ALL the connectors. I don't want just a few of them. I've seen most.

Hello all,
This is my first post. I have enjoyed my Black G8GT now for about 3 weeks, and have been reading many posts on this forum.
FYI I don't know if this has been shared, but this is the message I received yesterday directly from Blaupunkt.... for what its worth.

Thank you for your inquiry. None of our aftermarket accessories will work with this OEM system. Please contact your local Pontiac dealership for information on what accessories are available through them.





Bob Sanchez

Technical Advisor

Robert Bosch LLC

● Blaupunkt USA

2800 S 25th Ave Broadview, IL 60155

Support Hotline: 800.950.2528 Fax: 708.865.5296

www.blaupunkt.com/us (http://www.blaupunkt.com/us)

roberto.sanchez@us.bosch.com (roberto.sanchez@us.bosch.com)

ALL the connectors. I don't want just a few of them. I've seen most.

If there are any that dede hasn't posted already go ask the service department at your dealer. They were more than happy to print out any schematic I asked for.

Hello all,
This is my first post. I have enjoyed my Black G8GT now for about 3 weeks, and have been reading many posts on this forum.
FYI I don't know if this has been shared, but this is the message I received yesterday directly from Blaupunkt.... for what its worth.

Thank you for your inquiry. None of our aftermarket accessories will work with this OEM system. Please contact your local Pontiac dealership for information on what accessories are available through them.





Bob Sanchez

Technical Advisor

Robert Bosch LLC

● Blaupunkt USA

2800 S 25th Ave Broadview, IL 60155

Support Hotline: 800.950.2528 Fax: 708.865.5296

www.blaupunkt.com/us (http://www.blaupunkt.com/us)

roberto.sanchez@us.bosch.com (roberto.sanchez@us.bosch.com)


I asked the same question and got the same email. It's unfortunate.