Well, seeing what happened with the GTO was first released, does anyone think the same will happen with the new G8?

I certainly hope not, but I understand it will probably take a few months for production to catch up to demand. Hopefully the dealers won't be greedy and kill this one like they did the GTO.

They'll be greedy. Some of them are still adding markups on Solstice and some still refuse to deal on GTO's. Good thing I don't plan to buy this car unitl late 08.

I can see it happening.

I have a strong gut feeling that the G8 will have little nogoiation movement and will be gouged to hell and back from August until the end of the year likely when production catches up.

I want one day one, but will likely wait 6 months so I have some room to haggle.

it always seems that dealers mark up a 'hot' new car. i heard of the new toyota FJ cruiser going for $20k dealer markup when it came out :eek2: i dont think any dealers let go any SSR's with a good deal either.

Just saw an estimated price of $35K for the V8. Getting up there in price. Doesn't seem to have halogen lights or navigation. Our local Pontiac dealer owes my family auto parts business business about $10K, maybe we can make a deal.

I'm sure they will try to gouge.....

Loaded GXP GP are around 29K, 35K for a G8 is already a big jump for Pontiac so I don't see them getting much more then that...IMO

If a loaded GT is rumored to be around 35K, A GXP version will be getting up there. :eek2:

"With the GTO we made a mistake because the deterioration in profitability . . . we passed on to the customer in terms of price. This time we're going to try very hard to keep the vehicles in the mid-$20,000s."

http://drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=22524&vf=2

Bob Lutz said earlier that they screwed up with the GTO by pricing it far to high and planned on keeping the G8 in the mid 20s. If the V8 is ~35K it will fail miserable again.

I doubt those price estimations are true.

http://drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=22524&vf=2

Bob Lutz said earlier that they screwed up with the GTO by pricing it far to high and planned on keeping the G8 in the mid 20s. If the V8 is ~35K it will fail miserable again.

I doubt those price estimations are true.

Well, the more units they have to sell the lower price can ultimately be. If they can keep the GT high-20s (stripper) to low 30s (loaded) I thnk it will sell well. If they start the GT out over 30k... well, good luck, and I'll probably have to wait until the rebates are back or find a nice used one :(

Currently the Grand Prix is 25K for the GT and 30K for the GXP then add options from there...

I can see the G8 priced about the same.

I won't pay stupid markup. If the dealer in my town thinks I'm not gonna haggle, I'll go to the next one. Hell, I might start at the same dealer that I got my GTO from.

Yes, as GM either has franchise agreements in place that do not allow them to control their dealers -- or they simply do not know how to control them.

Look for G8s to be slathered with cheapo wheel and tire packages at insane prices, all kinds of stupid accessories and ridiculous additional dealer markups -- probably something like $10K when the first V8 GTs hit the showrooms.

i Think it the V8 version started at 29-30k that would be a good start atleast i would buy it for that.

I'm sure dealers will try to gouge, but "G8" just doesn't have the emotional appeal that "GTO" has. I don't think the hoopla will last too long. Hopefully GM learned a thing or two about their supply chain from Australia to the US and there will be enough cars in showrooms.

This review from thecarconnection.com shows G8 GT base price at estimated 35k

thecarconnection.com G8 annoucement (http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Sedans_Coupes_and_Hatchbacks/2008_Pontiac_G8_Preview.S180.A11868.html)

Really wish the G8 GT will be priced 29,990, what they do with the GXP (?) is fair game, just a budgeted performance sedan should fit the market.

One would think that Pontiac dealers who did all the gouging on the GTO would have learned that putting ridiculous markups on a new model can drive away customers not only from that dealership but from an entire automaker's products... for life. But dealers probably won't learn and history will repeat. That's kind of the weak link in GM's turnaround plan. With exception of Solstice, this is the only hot product Pontiac dealers have so they are hungry. When Solstice intro'd, there were a select few dealers that actually sold it at MSRP as hot as it was. It may just be a hunt to find a dealer like that for the G8 at least for the first few months. If I have to travel way out of my way to get the price I want, I will do it. My local gouging dealers will have to be content with the profit they get from changing my oil.

Some of you are going to have to pay the Dealer Adjustment, how else am I going to get 7K off a Camaro Vert or G8? hahaha, you know people are going to pay the loot...

In aus they have the commodore SV8 or executive with V8 option, which are couple grand cheaper then a commodore SS.

Maybe with the G8 they will actually have more options then then color, wheels and transmission?

I won't pay stupid markup. If the dealer in my town thinks I'm not gonna haggle, I'll go to the next one. Hell, I might start at the same dealer that I got my GTO from.

Yes, now with the advent of a nationwide internet car shopping-ness, there really is no reason to settle for a vehicle in town. 10 years ago, it was pretty much the only option, so dealers had the advantage but now we as consumers have the advantage, which is why a GTO might still be 32k at your dealer but they're all over the country at 25-27...

When this Gator comes out I vote for proof of sale, I wanna see #'s people...

Of course the dealers are going to gouge the price, that's what those *******s do.

Yes, now with the advent of a nationwide internet car shopping-ness, there really is no reason to settle for a vehicle in town. 10 years ago, it was pretty much the only option, so dealers had the advantage but now we as consumers have the advantage, which is why a GTO might still be 32k at your dealer but they're all over the country at 25-27...

I'd be happy to get a killer steal on one of these cars. I can wait for the showdown at the dealerships.

Count on it in the beginning, but it will die off as more and more of them trickle in.

Count on it in the beginning, but it will die off as more and more of them trickle in.

If the dealer tries giving me a line about "limited availabilty", I'm gonna give him unlimited availabilty of my foot in his ass.

In aus they have the commodore SV8 or executive with V8 option, which are couple grand cheaper then a commodore SS.

Maybe with the G8 they will actually have more options then then color, wheels and transmission?

SV8 disappeared on the VE, we now have the SS which replaced that and also the SS-V which is a couple of grand Higher. I heard your version will be based on the SS-V and the V6 based on the SV 6.

Rule of Car Buying: The dealer will make money. They will try to make even more money. And if necessary, they'll screw you to do it.

Rule of Car Buying: The dealer will make money. They will try to make even more money. And if necessary, they'll screw you to do it.

Luckily one of my best friends uncle is the head finance director at a GM/Pontiac dealership. :ftw:

U ought to have a section on this forum just for reporting average dealership prices. 3 colums, whos negotiating, whos selling for rrp and whos being a prick.

This may well turn out to be the biggest g8 forum, just as the 04-06 forum is. If dealers know about it, maybe they wont f@*k with u guys on the g8:)

U ought to have a section on this forum just for reporting average dealership prices. 3 colums, whos negotiating, whos selling for rrp and whos being a prick.

This may well turn out to be the biggest g8 forum, just as the 04-06 forum is. If dealers know about it, maybe they wont f@*k with u guys on the g8:)

Now thats a good idea :ftw:

My bet is when they show up they will be marking them up to SRT 300c prices, so probably around $45k.

have a pretty good relationship with several people at the dealer we bought our GTO at, so theres a very very good chance I'll get to order one at GM Supplier (which I do get) at worse.

have a pretty good relationship with several people at the dealer we bought our GTO at, so theres a very very good chance I'll get to order one at GM Supplier (which I do get) at worse.

If you can swing that, I'll have to pay you a visit Keygan.

My bet is when they show up they will be marking them up to SRT 300c prices, so probably around $45k.

I wouldn't be suprised at seeing that price at all, initially,,,
Dying to see whose going to drop the $lootz on it though, heheh.

If this is the case you can sweet talk someone who works at GM for the supplier pricing endorsement, thats 4.5% above employee cost. Basically any employee of GM can give anyone this endorsement.

If this is the case you can sweet talk someone who works at GM for the supplier pricing endorsement, thats 4.5% above employee cost. Basically any employee of GM can give anyone this endorsement.

That's cool... how do you find the employee cost?

Also, if you get that, can you still use your GM card earnings?

people are greedy, i highly doubt any dealership out there WOULDN'T gouge

That's cool... how do you find the employee cost?

Also, if you get that, can you still use your GM card earnings?

With a GM in the Driveway, I believe so and I know you can also still get
rebates (that's what I did with the TBSS).

As far as above sticker pricing, I just don't think the G8 is setting up for that.
Yea, there will be some dealers who will, but for the most part, I think the
first ones here will be held to sticker.

I bought my TBSS for less than sticker two months after they were out. Sure
there were other dealers that wouldn't move off of sticker, but after a few
places, I got a reasonable dealers who turned out to be a good dealer. I must
admit that I silver wouldn't have been my first choice of color, but hey.

people are greedy, i highly doubt any dealership out there WOULDN'T gouge

I bet you I know of one. He might not move off of sticker though:(

$10k-15k over MSRP here for a GT in SoCal is what I expect for at least 6 months after release. Same thing happened with the GTO, and im sure they haven't learned their lesson.