I went to a private track rental at Richmond Dragway in VA today. It was a group of only 25 cars so you could get as many runs as you wanted. I had 20 runs for the day. The weather was nice but much warmer and humid than what people wanted for a fall drag rental. The DA ranged from ~1000ft to ~1300ft for most of the rental. My car has ARH long tubes, CAI, and a tune. (http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6127) This was the first time to the track with this car. I did get a chance to run a stock rental (http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4072) G8 GT at the track before though. All of my runs except one were in the 12s and they only varied by just over 0.1s. My method for most of the runs was to put it in sport mode and then hold 3rd through the traps. Here is my best ET and best trap speed runs with the approx DA at the time of the run:

60ft - 1.9964
1/8 ET - 8.3634
1/8 MPH - 87.07
1/4 ET - 12.8926
1/4 MPH - 108.56
DA - 1269ft

60ft - 2.0103
1/8 ET - 8.3918
1/8 MPH - 84.89
1/4 ET - 12.9165
1/4 MPH - 110.38
DA - 1189ft

Being a private rental there were many fast cars there but I got alot of comments on the "fast sedan". There was a LS2 C6 AT there that I ran 3 different times and beat 2 of the 3 times. The only loss was because I spun and wheel hopped and had to get out of it (this was my non 12s run). I am pretty sure he was stock and the races were close but I would beat him out of the hole and then hold him off with him only slowly gaining on me at the end. His times were usually 13.0X@111.X with a 2.0X 60ft. I did get beat by other modded C6s and Z06s but it was good knock one off. Fun Day. :)

Holy ****! Nice mother f'n times! And way to kick a LS2 Corvette's ass! :)

This sounds like a fun time....


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That's surprisingly quick 1/4 mile times for those 60 ft times. Nice work, but I still wouldn't plan on beating too many stock C6's.

That's awesome. Nice mph too!

That's surprisingly quick 1/4 mile times for those 60 ft times. Nice work, but I still wouldn't plan on beating too many stock C6's.

After looking at some C6 times online, he seems to be in the range for auto C6's.

How fast do you think stock C6 Vettes run?

Nice runs. Very nice. What was your launch technique?

Nice runs. Very nice. What was your launch technique?

I tried a few things over the course of the day. I lauched just off idle some and other times I power braked to ~1500rpm (I varied it some). With the power braking I would get a little wheel spin but my60' times for the day were a best of 1.98 and worse of 2.08 (except one where I blew the tires away).

I was just messing around with the Wallace Racing 0-60 calc (http://www.wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php) and put in my above 1/8 mile info and got a 0-60 of 3.97s:eek:
Not sure how accurate it is though.

...your are da man! :slap:

:driving:

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6 Shooter

Um.. it was a C6 AT, how hard is it to put your foot to the floor?:rolleyes: We were both on steet tires, granted my 60' was a little better than his (2.02 vs 2.12). For that run he Red LT so he got out in front but I stayed at his door handle the entire run and ended with a 12.95@110.24 to his 13.07@111.06.

If it makes your Vette ego feel a little better I did get beat a few times by an LS3 C6 with long tube headers, intake, UDP, and a tune who was running 11.99@118.43. I have nothing against Vettes though, as they have been in my family since I was a kid and by this time next week I will have spent some seat time behind the wheel of a new ZR1. I was just happy that my 4 dr family sedan could run with a C6.

If it makes your Vette ego feel a little better.
My wifey has a stock G8 GT and I drive a Vette. her G8 is no match for a C5 or C6 Vette! :pir_flag:

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6 Shooter

Racerns.....You know you can't talk about the Vette's, lol. They already have other insecurities......;) Good job, and nice times!

My wifey has a stock G8 GT and I drive a Vette. her G8 is no match for a C5 or C6 Vette! :pir_flag

OK, where did I say a stock G8 would beat a C6? My G8 is not stock but, you would have a hard time telling that by looking or listening to it until I put my foot down. I have ~$2200 in mods to get where I am at with no sacrifce in driveability (even improved fuel mileage). So now I have 4 dr sport sedan that I can drive every day and pick up my kids all with Vette type speed. I understand though, that just because I beat one C6 dosn't mean I am faster than all stock Vettes out there.

So what times have you run in your C5?

So what times have you run in your C5?
I don't take the Vette down racetracks, but it's LS6 (http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/c5-technical-performance/106204-out-playing-bmr-da-interstate-yesterday-evening.html) runs better than it's original LS1!
:driving:

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6 Shooter

Racerns.....You know you can't talk about the Vette's, lol. They already have other insecurities......;) Good job, and nice times!

That's totally the truth! :)


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My wifey has a stock G8 GT and I drive a Vette. her G8 is no match for a C5 or C6 Vette! :pir_flag:


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6 Shooter

Maybe your wife is just a lousy driver. Why do you make such an assumption. C5's arent that fast......I know cause Ive shown them the back of my C3 many times. Maybe they were all lousy drivers!

Some great times....BUT why would you run a car 20 times in one day ??? That's a lot
of abuse.

That's totally the truth!
...clueless HotRod folks, if you out run a non modded Corvette with a modded G8, what have you proved? :secret:

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6 Shooter

Some great times....BUT why would you run a car 20 times in one day ??? That's a lot
of abuse.

I guess I got carried away with having fun. :wink2: It is not like I was doing monster launches or anything to really tear up the car. Also this was a 6 hour event so I would do 4 or so passed and then let it cool for 45 mins or more.

...clueless HotRod folks, if you out run a non modded Corvette with a modded G8, what have you proved? :secret:

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6 Shooter

That a lightly modded 2 ton 4 dr sedan can run with and sometimes beat a stock Vette ? :wink2:

What exactly are we clueless about? I get what you are saying as the whole stock vs modded thing gets played out on the car forums all the time as you can make anything fast with money. The main knock on modding is that you lose something in the way of comfort, driveability, or reliability to make those gains in speed. I have lost nothing in comfort and driveability as I said before driving it you would think it was stock until you hit the gas. As for reliablilty I think I will be just fine as the G8 is somewhat detuned to begin with, but only time will tell.

Your C5 is now a modded "HotRod" too with that LS6 crate motor in it even if it did come from GM.

...clueless HotRod folks, if you out run a non modded Corvette with a modded G8, what have you proved? :secret:



That he has a faster car for far less $$$. Sounds like he proved his point well too!

so how about this for a faster car for less money july 04 bought 90 zr1 corvette for 14995 added headers and exhaust headers 1200 flowmaster exhaust 600 other wise car is stk bought with 73k miles now has 150k miles best et on street tires 12.10 @119+mph . videos on u tube under bradley taylors zr1 @ famoso . click on joeshmo12301230 for all 6 videos . hmmm saved 20k and will have better resale in 5 yrs. match that.your cars arent bad at least they are gm . must have fun beating the dodge boys :)

so how about this for a faster car for less money july 04 bought 90 zr1 corvette for 14995 added headers and exhaust headers 1200 flowmaster exhaust 600 other wise car is stk bought with 73k miles now has 150k miles best et on street tires 12.10 @119+mph . videos on u tube under bradley taylors zr1 @ famoso . click on joeshmo12301230 for all 6 videos . hmmm saved 20k and will have better resale in 5 yrs. match that.your cars arent bad at least they are gm . must have fun beating the dodge boys :)

WOW...just WOW you registered on this site just tell us that you have a 18 year old 150K mile Vette that is faster than a G8. How has this thread deteriorated to this.:banghead:

There is so much there I don't really know where to start as this is so far off the map of what I was discussing. If you noticed I did not bring up price difference of the cars at any point (someone else did). I did not buy the G8 just because I wanted a fast car; I bought it because I needed something that I could pick up my kids in every day that was also fast and fun to drive. Your 18 year old ZR-1 (not ZR1 because that is the new one) in no way compares to the comfort and refinement of a G8 that accompanies the performance it has. The G8 serves my purpose and happens to give me Vette like speed, with simple mods, which I see as an added bonus.

I have another car that more than matches your ZR-1 in the performance for less money category. My 1994 Camaro (http://www.g8board.com/forums/showpost.php?p=54331&postcount=46) has run 11s in the 1/4 and will run circles around your ZR-1 on the roadcourse. I am pretty confident about that since I have a 90 ZR-1 in the family (my fathers) that I learned do drive manual on (in 1990) and spent many years autocrossing. My father still has the car and has promised to give it to my son when he is old enough. By the way, I purchased that Camaro in 1999 for about $4K and built it up myself. It has a few more things done to it since the magazine article but would guess I have about $15K in it. If I just wanted to make it go fast in a straight line I could have done it for a lot less. I would not want to drive it every day and the cage kind of gets in the way of putting kids in the back.;)

Also if your are trying to make a comparison of car prices you might want to get your fact straight. I am not sure where you are getting a 20K savings. I paid just over $29K for my G8 fully loaded.

easy to talk smack 3000 miles away . i have 3 zr1s the 90 a 92 callaway 475 supernatural , and a 95 385 twin turbo done by tom nelson . also a 88 mustang coupe thats almost done that will have an lt-5 and an auto for the strip . but the callaway will make your camero seem like a Vw in the corners .but your 33000miles away . to bad we could go what i still call Laguna seca and see what ya got . oh well so much for fun. i 5 yrs my zr1 will be worth way more than a camero then how will the value be then . enjoy your ride though at least it ssounds like you dont have a shop queen that just sits and thats a good thing .

No distance smack talk here, as I had no idea where you were located to begin with. I have been west to run race tracks but the farthest that direction I have ever made it was Phoenix during the One Lap of America. You might be surprised just how well some VWs might handle.:) But what does your stable of LT-5s (if you really have them as it is easy to make claims on the internet, but at the moment I will assume that you do) have to do with my G8 1/4 mile times and the fact that I happened to beat a stock LS2 C6? (which is what this thread was about) NOTHING! There is no comparison to be made here with your '90 or any others. The only reason I brought my Camaro into this was because of your match that "value" performance statement, which again really has nothing to do with my G8's performance.

Your C5 is now a modded "HotRod" too with that LS6 crate motor in it even if it did come from GM.

I got the impression that he has an LS6 in his C5 because it's a Z06, which is stock.

I got the impression that he has an LS6 in his C5 because it's a Z06, which is stock.

No, he has a C5 vert that has an LS6 crate motor in it because he damaged his LS1. I have seen him post over in the corvetteforum.

If you noticed I did not bring up price difference of the cars at any point (someone else did).
Sorry, didnt mean to get anyone going. Just wanted to make a point about the G8 since this is a G8 forum and all. Maybe from now on Ill go onto Corvette forums and post about the G8s since I know that their members wont be in there, they will be out posting in forums that have nothing to do with their cars. Dont get me wrong, I would love to own a Corvette, but I dont have enough money to spend or a big enough ego. Lets see what becomes of this response.

hey guys we are all on the same team here! we are all driving GM products. Save it for the ford and dodge boys :driving: Congrats on the win against the LS2 vette. that really is hauling the mail. :) I own a modded LS2 vette (M6) and a g8 gt and love both cars, although they are totally different cars.

Oh and I am not making up for any insecurities. I always wanted a vette and I was blessed to be able to afford one. I think everyone should own at least one vette in their lifetime.

Now let's play nice :)

:) I own a modded LS2 vette (M6) and a g8 gt and love both cars, although they are totally different cars.
I really like that color on the vette in your pic. If thats yours, you have good taste!

The funny thing is that I really am a big Vette guy. The first car I ever autocrossed was a an '85 Vette. The first high performance driving school I went to was Powell's @ Mosport Park and it was all Vettes. I have spent street and track time in my dads C6Z06 (yes he has one along with his '90 ZR-1 and lives right down the street :)) I thought by now I would have one of my own but the time has never seemed right and it helps to have 2 right down the street that I can drive when I want ;). Tonight I am going with my dad to pick up his new ZR1 so I have that one to look forward to playing with. So, I have nothing against Vettes, just a very select few owners that have a superiority complex.

I really like that color on the vette in your pic. If thats yours, you have good taste!yes it is. thanks for the compliments. the color is lemans blue metallic. It is beautiful in person. damn shame GM stopped using this color on vettes. 2007 was the last year model for that color. glad I got one :)

It's all good guys and gals. A win is a win and doesn't matter why. Moded or not a win is a win. Maybe the other driver was not as good as the G8's driver mod :p.
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If you race alot then anything is possible. I have beat a twin turbo viper in the 1/4 because he crap a trans half way down the track. I still won ;)

easy to talk smack 3000 miles away . i have 3 zr1s the 90 a 92 callaway 475 supernatural , and a 95 385 twin turbo done by tom nelson . also a 88 mustang coupe thats almost done that will have an lt-5 and an auto for the strip . but the callaway will make your camero seem like a Vw in the corners .but your 33000miles away . to bad we could go what i still call Laguna seca and see what ya got . oh well so much for fun. i 5 yrs my zr1 will be worth way more than a camero then how will the value be then . enjoy your ride though at least it ssounds like you dont have a shop queen that just sits and thats a good thing .

dude....:slap:

dude....:slap:

LOL....winner :D

...clueless HotRod folks, if you out run a non modded Corvette with a modded G8, what have you proved? :secret:

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6 Shooter

That a four door family car can be faster than a 2 door two seater.

That a four door family car can be faster than a 2 door two seater.

Isn't it great? Welcome to our little neck of the woods!

easy to talk smack 3000 miles away . i have 3 zr1s the 90 a 92 callaway 475 supernatural , and a 95 385 twin turbo done by tom nelson . also a 88 mustang coupe thats almost done that will have an lt-5 and an auto for the strip . but the callaway will make your camero seem like a Vw in the corners .but your 33000miles away . to bad we could go what i still call Laguna seca and see what ya got . oh well so much for fun. i 5 yrs my zr1 will be worth way more than a camero then how will the value be then . enjoy your ride though at least it ssounds like you dont have a shop queen that just sits and thats a good thing .
CamAro

Isn't it great? Welcome to our little neck of the woods!

4DR cars = slow :driving:




But that "Vette" guy makes it worth while for us .

We all know Vette's are quick , thats why its cool when a "slower" car runs with/outruns them . It give me a warm fuzzy feeling on the inside .

6 shooter is the type of insecure uninformed Corvette owner that gives other decent Corvette owners a bad rap. We must keep in mind that not all Corvette owners are as bad as this guy.

6 shooter is the type of insecure uninformed Corvette owner that gives other decent Corvette owners a bad rap. We must keep in mind that not all Corvette owners are as bad as this guy.

i don't know but when im on the road i try not to get behind vettes since they always drive slow....same with porsches

If I had a Vette you wouldn't have to worry about that issue with me.:gr_devil: If you wanted to pass me you would have to "earn" it. lol

If I had a Vette you wouldn't have to worry about that issue with me.:gr_devil: If you wanted to pass me you would have to "earn" it. lol

well most buy the corvette as a symbol IMHO

i don't see that many Corvettes breaking the speed limit

Yes I agree with you. But, me personally, I'm all go and then maybe some show.

i don't know but when im on the road i try not to get behind vettes since they always drive slow....same with porsches you haven't pulled up behind my vette :driving:of course I don't get many bites with the LT headers ringing and the bassani exhaust screaming. I drive my vette like I stole it and that is how they are meant to be driven.

You got to remember, most guys that buy vettes are older gentlemen and the car's performanc exceeds their reaction times. I am 29yr old and the car can still be a handful if you don't bring your A game.

Everybody should own at least one 393rwhp + 3100# weight = loads of fun!!!!

I just turned 25 and I've only driven sports cars, and I'm really getting excited about buying my first 4dr sedan.

just so you know i am not blowing smoke i have 3 zr1s 1 at nelsons racing engines getting a twin turbod 377 lt-5 . the other 2 can be viewed on u tube by typing in joeshmoe12301230 and you will get a list of the 11 runs of the other 2 zr1s the white one is all stk and has run 12.48 @115+ the black one has headers and has run 12.10 @119.85 mph both on mt et street drag radials not bad for a 19 year old basicly stk car dont ya think

racerns, I wouldn't worry about the small ego talk from the Corvette guy. I had a C5 with mods that put me at 400hp at the crank, and I am amazed that my new 4 dr. G8GT, when I put the mods on it, will be as fast. I think a 400 hp C6 is less than a headups race for your car, given the weight difference, so kudos on the race where you won. :thumbsup:

Op, awesome numbers and great kill on the vette!

just so you know i am not blowing smoke i have 3 zr1s 1 at nelsons racing engines getting a twin turbod 377 lt-5 . the other 2 can be viewed on u tube by typing in joeshmoe12301230 and you will get a list of the 11 runs of the other 2 zr1s the white one is all stk and has run 12.48 @115+ the black one has headers and has run 12.10 @119.85 mph both on mt et street drag radials not bad for a 19 year old basicly stk car dont ya think

Who the hell cares what you have? It's apparently not helping you sound like any less of a retard :slap:

Most of the Vette owners I've met are cool as hell and very into performance, but there are definitely a couple in here that are not helping to prove that point.

Panther8, badass looking vette, and keep up the good fight for the vette owners! :gears:

Yes any 4 door that can keep up with a car that weighs almost 1000 pounds less deserves some kudos!!! Keep up the good work!!!

:nuts:just so you know i am not blowing smoke i have 3 zr1s 1 at nelsons racing engines getting a twin turbod 377 lt-5 . the other 2 can be viewed on u tube by typing in joeshmoe12301230 and you will get a list of the 11 runs of the other 2 zr1s the white one is all stk and has run 12.48 @115+ the black one has headers and has run 12.10 @119.85 mph both on mt et street drag radials not bad for a 19 year old basicly stk car dont ya think

To the OP, did you have the same mods when you ran the 12.59 in your sig or do you have more than CAI, AR Headers, and tune now?

To the OP, did you have the same mods when you ran the 12.59 in your sig or do you have more than CAI, AR Headers, and tune now?

Same mods for both days. The 12.59 (http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8191) was run at a different track, in -DA, that had better traction. The only thing there was a ~20mph head wind that kept the trap speed down for the day. It was a near perfect day except for the head wind. It think without the head wind I could have seen a 12.4X@112 or so.