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batwood
01-10-2008, 04:40 PM
Newspaper release from our friends down under!!
http://forums.peddersusa.com/imagehosting/2747869eba24a47.jpg

Cool_Hand_Luke
01-10-2008, 04:52 PM
Thanks for the news clip.

TBSS
01-10-2008, 05:15 PM
What's the date on the paper?

batwood
01-10-2008, 05:18 PM
It was in todays Paper.

TBSS
01-10-2008, 05:36 PM
Nice, thanks.

Rippin'6's
01-10-2008, 05:43 PM
hey ok so its coming to shore in 2 weeks. I live near LA when should I be able to get my G8?

Ramsesiii
01-10-2008, 05:59 PM
Maybe February isn't unheard of after all :)

^_^

Doug
01-10-2008, 06:03 PM
Will they spread the first batch across the entire U.S. or will they give them to the southern states. or will they go to the dealerships where people bought them already? I cant wait to see it.

chiefpontiac
01-10-2008, 07:31 PM
First 888 to the top 700 or so dealers in the country. Next batch allocated 25% on Pontiac sales and then so much based on competition registrations (but presumed to be somewhat limited to sunshine states at first)

By the end of m.y. 2008 each and every Pontiac dealer is supposed to be able to get at least one - if they so choose.

Demon8
01-10-2008, 08:30 PM
Is there a pre-order figure anywhere? I read that some Pontiac dealers already have their first batch all pre-ordered?

appletonrc
01-10-2008, 09:31 PM
Thanks for the article. One dealer here said he has 1 of the 888. I sure hope I can drive it before they sell it (if not sold to me). I was told late March, but that was before Christmas (Wisconsin).

Ramsesiii
01-11-2008, 09:09 AM
I'll be getting a call when the 1 rolls into the huntersville dealer, and another when the first of 4 rolls into the local concord, nc dealer. :)

SRG963
01-11-2008, 10:05 AM
Just got off the phone with the Matthews dealership. They are getting one of the 888 versions, which will not be for sale (at least for awhile). He said to expect a month to two before the regular production model arrives.

I don't know if I can wait that long, I may have to look at getting the 888.

Sunflower
01-11-2008, 11:04 AM
I can not wait for these to get here. I am on 2 dealers call list for when they come in to call me. One is the lot my husband uses for his warentee work, and the one I signed up at. I can't wait to see them... I hate waiting.

Doug
01-11-2008, 11:10 AM
So every dealership that gets one will hold it for a while so everyone can see/test drive?

CorsaTurboC
01-11-2008, 12:06 PM
A bit off topic, but...Do I read in there that the Torana is "born again"? Still a G8GT Magnetic Grey, Onyx/Red, all options for me but the Jr. wants the Torana with manual... :gears:

bracketracer
01-12-2008, 11:27 AM
I'm curious how dealers will handle their first G8s. It sounds like some may keep one or two around to drum up interest, before they actually sell them. Although I have asked my dealer to notify me when they get their first one so I can take a look at it up close, I have no dilusions that they will let me drive it. I'm sure the car will already be sold before it arrives, and if I had put a deposit down on that car, there is no way that I would want other people driving "my car!" I will wait until the initial craze settles down, and then I will want to test drive one before I actually buy it. I'm sure the test drive will only confirm how much I will want to actually buy one though.

BBBBGXP
01-12-2008, 06:36 PM
I'm curious how dealers will handle their first G8s. It sounds like some may keep one or two around to drum up interest, before they actually sell them. Although I have asked my dealer to notify me when they get their first one so I can take a look at it up close, I have no dilusions that they will let me drive it. I'm sure the car will already be sold before it arrives, and if I had put a deposit down on that car, there is no way that I would want other people driving "my car!" I will wait until the initial craze settles down, and then I will want to test drive one before I actually buy it. I'm sure the test drive will only confirm how much I will want to actually buy one though.

Got email from the dealer fleet rep I am working with yesterday saying they weren't getting one until all the "just Pontiac" dealers got one, they do Chevy, Pontiac and Buick. He said I would be the first one he called when they got a GT, but didn't have a clue as to when that would be. :dunno:

mikmak
01-13-2008, 12:37 AM
A bit off topic, but...Do I read in there that the Torana is "born again"? Still a G8GT Magnetic Grey, Onyx/Red, all options for me but the Jr. wants the Torana with manual... :gears:

apparently based off the alpha platform, so perhaps 2010? More likely 2012 tho as most development mules would be spotted within 2 years of release.

Back on topic, are all the 888s 6.0s? Holdens mix for all holden models is around 20% V8 so you would think with performance at the forefront of a performance brand, V6 would be a little dissapointing for all those who have waited soooooo loong.

asylum
01-13-2008, 02:13 AM
pretty sure the 888's are about a 50/50 mix of 6 and 8's, if anything, probably more 8's than 6's

BobFitz82
01-13-2008, 10:29 PM
I live in New England so we'll probably be the last region to get the G8's haha

davefr
01-14-2008, 09:18 AM
Got email from the dealer fleet rep I am working with yesterday saying they weren't getting one until all the "just Pontiac" dealers got onea GT

He's lying to you. Allocations are based on past RETAIL Pontiac sales (25%) and competitive registrations (75%).

The competition is defined as cars such as Maxima, BMW, G35, Charger, Chrysler 300, etc.

Rumors of "Pontiac only dealers" or Southern states getting priority is false. However Southern states will benefit since they typically have more RWD registrations then Northern states.

SparcV
01-14-2008, 12:03 PM
I live in New England so we'll probably be the last region to get the G8's haha

I'm with you, we'll probably be last to get them.

J_Grand
01-14-2008, 08:22 PM
I talked to two dealerships today, and one said that they are getting two G8 GTs next month. The other dealership said they are getting 11-13 G8s in March. The bad side is that they said they will prolly lease out between $400-$500!!!

italiastraps
01-15-2008, 06:06 PM
A Red G8 was on display at the car show in San Jose, CA last week. Most people were ignoring it. One of the dealer reps there said he thought they would be on his lot in Feb.

BBBBGXP
01-16-2008, 08:55 PM
A Red G8 was on display at the car show in San Jose, CA last week. Most people were ignoring it. One of the dealer reps there said he thought they would be on his lot in Feb.
One of Mr. Lutz's smile states! A focus state for this car. All the rest of us will see them as they "filter down" to us!:bubbrubb:

CoppeR
01-19-2008, 06:08 PM
Everyone's sayin Feb but my dealer has zero litature or information about it.

BBBBGXP
01-19-2008, 09:12 PM
Uh, that has been an issue around these parts for some time. Browse around and you'll see the flavor of the general opinion on that issue. Oh, by the way WELCOME CoppeR!

SRG963
01-22-2008, 07:21 PM
I read that the first shipment was only a day away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

davefr
01-23-2008, 09:09 AM
Everyone's sayin Feb but my dealer has zero litature or information about it.

Get another dealer. All they have to do is log into GM's internal launch site and there's plenty of info.

batwood
01-23-2008, 03:25 PM
It should be the first week of March that they will be on the dealers lots. If I here anything different I will be sure and post.

enunn06
01-23-2008, 03:58 PM
It should be the first week of March that they will be on the dealers lots. If I here anything different I will be sure and post.

Is that when you were told they would first be getting them in period? My dealer claims to be getting them in next week. I think they're just not going to advertise it for anyone other than those who have previously contacted them as Pontiac is waiting to "officially" introduce it until after the production model is "launched" at the Chicago Auto Show in two weeks.

Muff Daddy
01-27-2008, 10:38 PM
my dealer told me early feb for their 888 car to be on the lot. it will only be a v6 though :( i will still be going to check it out.

JusticePete
01-28-2008, 11:22 AM
The Dealers I am speaking with still don't have final vehicle details let alone delivery dates. Your Dealer may be higher on the list for deliveries. That said, the GTOs that came into port took about four weeks to get to the showroom floor. There are others on this board that tracked their GTO from AU to port to Dealer who could verify that time frame.

Studzilla
02-16-2008, 10:54 AM
My wife and I told our dealership about a month or so ago that we wanted the first G8 GT that comes in...we told them we wanted Grey and a sunroof....anything else will be just great...well...they finally told us last week what all it has...pretty much has what all the forums said it would...anyway...we have our money down...and are waiting...the Dealership said it will just show up one day most likely within the next couple weeks. I decided to keep our 01 GXP as its still in perfect shape...will let you know when it comes in...YIPPIE!...I got one of the 888
:attachment::bubbrubb:

BBBBGXP
02-16-2008, 08:27 PM
Welcome to the Forum! You will have to post pics as soon as you take delivery, we're all interested in seeing the proud owner and his/her ride!

ezstriper
02-17-2008, 08:40 AM
I am on the list on a alexandria dealership, they keep calling to setup appointments, but without a car, told them to call me when they have a car. They told me two weeks a week ago, that dealership is 50 miles away, my local dealership leaves much to desired..so we shall see.

Lichtronamo
02-17-2008, 10:19 AM
They had three of them at the Chicago Auto Show, two of which you could get into. I came away disapointed, especially in the quality of the interior materials (the center stack is NOT GOOD) and nagging detals like the sunroof switch nixing the sunglass holder and the trunk release in the glove box (the cover of which has to be about the thinest, hardest cheapest piece of plastic imaginable). Pretty much crossed it off my list based on this viewing.

96fleetwood
02-17-2008, 10:48 AM
I found the interior quality similar to other $25-30K cars I saw at the Chicago auto show.

I liked the G8, they kept it simple and did not go overboard.. keeping to the theme of the old Fbodies.

STex
02-17-2008, 01:37 PM
They had three of them at the Chicago Auto Show, two of which you could get into. I came away disapointed, especially in the quality of the interior materials (the center stack is NOT GOOD) and nagging detals like the sunroof switch nixing the sunglass holder and the trunk release in the glove box (the cover of which has to be about the thinest, hardest cheapest piece of plastic imaginable). Pretty much crossed it off my list based on this viewing.

No offense, but can you give a name of a car with rwd/limited slip, 361 hp, 385 tq, 6sd A/t, good looks, tested engine for $30-33,000 with an interior that meets your standards? I have an Acura TSX with a top notch interior...for about 28-30,000 but the comparison abruptly ends there....

appletonrc
02-17-2008, 07:34 PM
They had three of them at the Chicago Auto Show, two of which you could get into. I came away disapointed, especially in the quality of the interior materials (the center stack is NOT GOOD) and nagging detals like the sunroof switch nixing the sunglass holder and the trunk release in the glove box (the cover of which has to be about the thinest, hardest cheapest piece of plastic imaginable). Pretty much crossed it off my list based on this viewing.

The center stack is similar to the GTO. The GTO had the side rails of the center stack painted silver- same material. I think it is very nice. It bugs me when people complain about the material. In many cases, it is the same plastic, just dressed differently. For comparison, the Grand prix (at least 97-03), the sunroof deleted the sunglass holder. For that matter, really? If you don't have a place for sunglasses, you won't buy a car?

bracketracer
02-18-2008, 07:25 AM
They had three of them at the Chicago Auto Show, two of which you could get into. I came away disapointed, especially in the quality of the interior materials (the center stack is NOT GOOD) and nagging detals like the sunroof switch nixing the sunglass holder and the trunk release in the glove box (the cover of which has to be about the thinest, hardest cheapest piece of plastic imaginable). Pretty much crossed it off my list based on this viewing.

Thank you for crossing it off your list. That just leaves one more for someone who will appreciate it. This is not meant to flame you at all. I just think that many folks are being unrealistic in their expectations. You can't have everything in a $25K - $35K vehicle. They will have to make compromises somewhere. I would rather have those compromises be in the "quality of interior materials" than in drivetrain or styling (both rock on the G8).

I sat in those same vehicles at the Chicago Auto Show, and came away very impressed. The quality of materials is better than on my '00 GTP with leather interior, which is a better comparison. This car cost about $25K when new.

Jee8
02-18-2008, 09:48 AM
They had three of them at the Chicago Auto Show, two of which you could get into. I came away disapointed, especially in the quality of the interior materials (the center stack is NOT GOOD) and nagging detals like the sunroof switch nixing the sunglass holder and the trunk release in the glove box (the cover of which has to be about the thinest, hardest cheapest piece of plastic imaginable). Pretty much crossed it off my list based on this viewing.

This is why expectations should be managed. Pontiac is not a luxury brand. I use the TL as an example because ever since I sat in my friend's new TL in 2004, it has set the standard IMO of what a "great" interior should be. When Acura is offering a TL with a damn nice interior, fwd and 258 hp starting at around $34k; why would you expect a pontiac to have an equivelant interior when they are offering 360 hp and rwd for $4k less.

The G8 is by no means a terrible interior, it is a "good" interior, but not "great". I also sat in both the gray and red G8s at the show and I came away impressed for the price. I'm sure for another $4k GM could have made it with some better interior materials, but it is not a luxury brand. I'll be getting an 09 G8 this year, and my wife will be getting a used TL next year, so I can get the best of both worlds.

I'm not trying to flame you, but convince you to buy the product that appeals to what you want the most. :judge: If it is an interior, then it probably isn't the G8, if it is for fish-tailing fun :gears:, then it is the G8.

4gasem
02-18-2008, 10:19 AM
If it is an interior, then it probably isn't the G8, if it is for fish-tailing fun :gears:, then it is the G8.

That's me that's me... :yumyum:

I understand what I'm getting for my money and I am OK with it. I need to have an American car and it has to be 4 doors. (company policy) and for the money this one does it for me. All that matters to me is that it DOESN'T squeak and rattle... THAT's my #1 pet peeve! :eek2:

rayainsw
02-18-2008, 11:04 AM
“The G8 is by no means a terrible interior, it is a "good" interior, but not "great". I also sat in both the gray and red G8s at the show and I came away impressed for the price.” – Jee8
Let me add additional emphasis here: “. . for the price.”
I think that this phrase is critical.

[ Obviously: ] Quality means different things to different people.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/?128@@.eea34cc

“You asked for it and I delivered. After I threw up a video blog regarding the Aura's perceived quality featuring the age-old "tap test," quite a few people demanded I do the same for the Accord. Well, I did, and I also did the same test for a Ford Fusion SEL we happen to have at the moment. Sound and light quality differ in the three videos, but I think you can detect the differences. For the record, the more of a "thump" sound they make rather than a "thwack" the better.”

Some people see ( and hear ) differences in materials, fit, finish & apparent “solidity” or “sturdiness” differently.

Many people ( still ) look at the interior of the current model Corvette and perceive a lack of quality. That’s OK with me. My $$s, my choice & my priorities. And: To some degree, they are correct, in that with the budget constraints on a 400+ HP\TQ Sports \ GT car that Chevy must sell in quantities of over 30,000 units per year – not EVERYTHING can be at the quality level of other cars with similar performance but costing ( way ) more.

The 911 \ Carrera is often compared to the Corvette – and the level of performance ( acceleration & handling numbers, etc. ) is typically comparable. Yet the interior ‘quality’ of the ( base ) Corvette interior is quite clearly not up to that of the Porsche.

Yet the base price of the Corvette w/Z51 performance pkg ( only ) is roughly: $47.5K.

And the ‘cheapest’ Porsche 911 starts at roughly $73K

Every aspect of the Corvette ( I will repeat here for those who have not read every one of my posts ) that I currently drive a 2007 Corvette Coupe ) that I care about has met or exceeded my expectations.

The Corvette is a Chevy. And one could argue that the interior looks more “Chevy” than “Porsche”. Since mine ( at over 20,000 miles ) does not exhibit any squeaks, rattles, moans or groans – even over the roughest roads – I can happily live with the lower quality in the finish department. I find the seats ( also often criticized ) quite comfortable & supportive. Etc. And I bought it at a VERY substantial savings compared to something like the Porsche.

If you want comparable acceleration & handling in a 4DR sedan with a ‘nicer’ interior, from a quality standpoint, I think few would argue that a BMW 535 or 550 would fit that general description.

For a whole lot more money.

I had the opportunity to drive a BMW 335i sedan on Saturday morning. While awaiting the retrieval of keys & a dealer tag, I sat in a well optioned 535 on the showroom floor. ( MSRP was well over $50K )

The materials used, fit, finish & solidity are clearly superior to anything I have seen in any $30K ( base ) sedan recently.

Now the BMW 5 styling ( inside & out ) happens to really grate on me – and has since the current generation arrived, some years ago – though some aspects of the interior have been improved, in my judgment. Thus, the 5 is just absolutely not a possible choice for me, even if I decided to spend BMW 535 or 550 money for a sedan.

So – I am ( still ) looking forward to spending some ‘quality time’ inside a G8 – though at this rate, that appears still weeks away . . .

The point really is that different aspects are important to different people. And the prospect of spending $30K ( or $40K or $50K ) on any automobile that does not have:
Thing A ( standard )
Thing B ( optional )
And \ or does not meet their expectations of quality, however they perceive that, is not something that I would recommend.

In the specific case of the G8 GT ( my focus, vs the V6, as this model \ version will potentially be my next Sport Sedan ) I see the dynamics, as described by those who have driven related Holden products, to be something I’d find sufficient to be entertaining.
[ Release of real road tests appear at least another week+ away. Still. ]

Given that the slight differences in color & texture of various interior plastics on the dash & center stack ( for instance ) of my Corvette don’t particularly bother me, my ** GUESS ** is that I will be OK with the G8’s interior. Heck, I spend exactly 0 time ‘fondling’ my dash. And very little time staring at the various pieces & parts. The controls & displays are largely where I can find & use them conveniently. And nothing is hanging down or flapping. No covers or lids pop open, etc. So, again, I expect that the quality of the G8’s interior will be OK. For me.

Though it sure would be nice to confirm that with a real G8, at my local Dealer.

The opportunity to do THAT seems to be tantalizingly close – yet still so very far away. . .
(( sigh ))

** YOUR ** opinion about quality perception is valid. By definition. Even if ** NO ONE ** else on this or any other board agrees with your assessment.

I am personally likely to forgive some lack(s) of interior refinement.
In return for a relative bargain in the ( still assumed ) quality of the performance dynamics I expect that the G8 GT will deliver. Or GXP.

- Ray
Still firmly in the “undecided” camp . . .

4gasem
02-18-2008, 11:52 AM
I've always liked the Ford interiors more as they visually look like better materials and tend to be less squeak and rattle prone. My F-150 4X4 is still quiet after 87,000 miles but my Redline Vue after 37,000 sounds like someone is playing with styro foam while I'm driving!:eek2: HATE IT!

All was MHO.

asylum
02-18-2008, 09:26 PM
anyone get to open/close the doors?

would have to be one of the most satisfying solid "thump", feels very solid

VENOM
02-19-2008, 07:43 AM
I called my dealership last week and he told me by end of Feb he will have 2 "888" cars on his lot. He is getting 14 for the rest of the year:sneaky:

14 for the whole year? Come on. Is GM going to be retarded, again, and produce very little of the car so that dealerships hold onto them and sell them for top dollar?

He said to give him a call this week on Friday. I live in NJ by the way.

I remember going to look at a 2006 GTO that was still on the lot of a dealership (I went to dealership in August 2007) and they were not going to sell it for $1 under MSRP and the car was nearing 2 years old. I have a feeling GM is going to do the same thing and not give 0%, or $2,000 off, and the dealers will get a limited supply and milk them for all they are worth. With the economy in the toilet, you would think GM would give some incentive to buy a brand new car. But they won't.

G8 Lover
02-19-2008, 08:00 AM
nike,

I know there's a lot of information on this site, but the '08 year is abbreviated. The '09s should be on the lot in the summer/end of summer.

VENOM
02-19-2008, 08:06 AM
? So they are only making the 08's for a little while, then producing 09's in the summer? I read these forums almost everyday, just signed up.

SRG963
02-19-2008, 08:56 AM
? So they are only making the 08's for a little while, then producing 09's in the summer? I read these forums almost everyday, just signed up.

End of 08MY is the end of Feburary,
Beginning of 09MY is the first Monday in March!
Should be able to tag the 09s around April - May - June?

VENOM
02-19-2008, 08:59 AM
Ahhhhhhhhh ok I got it. Thanks for the insight. Why would they even produce 08's then if they are going to produce 09's this soon? Shouldn't they have just made it 2009 and put them on sale in May?

gartht
02-19-2008, 10:05 AM
Has anyone seen a G8 anywhere in the US? Has the ship sank? I guess this is one negative about getting a car from another country, half way around the world.

Belo
02-19-2008, 10:42 AM
Has anyone seen a G8 anywhere in the US? Has the ship sank? I guess this is one negative about getting a car from another country, half way around the world.


saw one at an autoshow. It was that purple color though, my least favorite

gartht
02-19-2008, 11:35 AM
I am waiting for someone on this forum to either take possession of one, or say they saw one (non-test car) driving down the road.

Attorneyguy
02-19-2008, 12:36 PM
Is there going to be some kind of mad rush of G8s come March 1 or something? I can't believe no one on this board has one yet! It's February 19!

Jee8
02-19-2008, 12:50 PM
Is there going to be some kind of mad rush of G8s come March 1 or something? I can't believe no one on this board has one yet! It's February 19!

:dunno: Maybe they are all doing donuts in the parking lot, and can't type right now.

Dan1G8
02-19-2008, 01:11 PM
If they are supposed be available nationwide March 1st, the east coast units should be in the transfer yards soon if not already.

Attorneyguy
02-19-2008, 01:17 PM
So what does everyone think? Will someone on this board actually take possession of their G8 by March 1?

Just 11 days away! (damn leap year)

davefr
02-19-2008, 02:33 PM
I would have thought there would be sightings from the Bay Area by now since a train ride isn't needed.

I wonder what's causing the delay. Do you suppose GM is stagging the shipments in a manner so the first wave of cars hits all US dealers at about the same time? Or are they having problems with customs paperwork?

SRG963
02-19-2008, 02:51 PM
I would have thought there would be sightings from the Bay Area by now since a train ride isn't needed.

I wonder what's causing the delay. Do you suppose GM is stagging the shipments in a manner so the first wave of cars hits all US dealers at about the same time? Or are they having problems with customs paperwork?

It's probably all the above

gartht
02-19-2008, 03:21 PM
One would think that a huge global corporation like GM would know how to go thru customs w/o any glitches. Especailly since they went thru this with the GTO a few years back. My guess is that they are staggering them on purpose.

gartht
02-19-2008, 04:23 PM
Also, what about the first 888 G8s. Shouldn't someone have taken ownership of one of those by now.

Mr. Sandog
02-19-2008, 04:35 PM
*sniff* *sniff* ..... smells like a planned launch... :secret:

BBBBGXP
02-19-2008, 11:29 PM
Everything I've seen/heard around the web is its a March 1, 2008 launch. For once maybe GM will actually be able to do one on the date they say they will????:eek2:

VENOM
02-20-2008, 07:32 AM
my dealer by me told me his G8's are in transit to his dealership. They arrives west coast already. They are being transported from the lot to his dealerships. He is getting two 888's in. Said to call him this Friday, he will have them by end of month

Dan1G8
02-20-2008, 08:18 AM
This morning I noticed what looked to be about 40 car carriers waiting to be unloaded at the yard by house. I'm gonna stop by this afternoon for a closer look.

rayainsw
02-20-2008, 08:24 AM
This morning I noticed what looked to be about 40 car carriers waiting to be unloaded at the yard by house. I'm gonna stop by this afternoon for a closer look.

Cool.
Please take ( beg, borrow, steal, if necessary ) a camera?
I would LOVE to see pictures of 40 car carriers filled with G8s...
40 * 8 cars per?
300+ G8s?
A start, at least.......
- Ray

Dan1G8
02-20-2008, 08:33 AM
Will do.

BigElm
02-20-2008, 10:25 AM
One of the 888 GT's is in transit to the dealer. Expected to arrive end of month. I should be getting a call when it gets there. *fingers crossed*

SRG963
02-20-2008, 03:02 PM
...GT's is in transit to the dealer. Expected to arrive end of month. I should be getting a call...

That's two of us:turbonaughtdy_1:

I'm just going on a test drive, but a long waited test drive

Pat
02-20-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm driving right by the vehicle-transport rail yard in Kent, WA this afternoon. I'll try to take a look.

ezstriper
02-20-2008, 04:44 PM
went by my local dealership today, was able to get a brochure, they were keeping them in the back, only had a few he said, he was told they would not get a car until late march, I'm on a call list now, he ran a search for me and no cars showed up on the ground ?? not sure if that was true, but they were also talking about going to a ride and drive before they intro the car, so who knows....Rob

SRG963
02-20-2008, 06:06 PM
Looks like GM's slacking once again:ohsnap1:They better get these things "on the ground" (WTF is that?) SOON or:comp:

pharden
02-20-2008, 08:33 PM
I have visited 4 dealers between Boston and Rhode Island and their general lack of awareness about the G8 was somewhat surprising. They didn't know what was coming in or when they might get a car. Some dealers said in March or April.

I also mentioned if it was possible to Tag a specific car with the options I wanted and was told no as the cars were made in Australia
and it was not possible to order cars.

all the dealers did have G8 brochures available.

jawilsn
02-20-2008, 09:10 PM
Just walked into the dealership today and put 500 bucks on a Black/Premium/18inch all season's today. My dealership is getting 7 in and 4 were already reserved. They said should be first week in March. They also told me that's all they were getting for the 08 Model year the 09's won't be delivered till Nov, Dec....

Schaumburg, IL dealership

gartht
02-20-2008, 09:39 PM
November or December? Another thread stated that 09 proudction was scheduled to start on 3/3/08. Are they building a bridge to drive them over from Australia. That's the only way it should take 9 months to deliver them.

bracketracer
02-21-2008, 07:38 AM
Based on what we are seeing for the '08 models, I guess this delay makes some sense (although I'm sure it doesn't make many folks very happy), but I suspect that we will start seeing '09s around the regular MY intro time of Sept (pure speculation on my part). If they start production at the beginning of March, they will probably stockpile them a few weeks before they even arrange for the first shipment. That might mean that the first batch won't even ship until mid-to-late-April. Then it seems to take about a month to get over to Benicia (late-May). They have to go thru whatever processing is required at Benicia (well into July). Then they have to get transported east (well into August). This makes me think that I won't see a six-speed manual version until after the snow begins to fly in Wisconsin in '08, maybe not even until the actual '09 calendar year. That just gives me more time to keep adding to my "G8 downpayment account," and be ready to try to order (if possible) or allocate my G8 GXP 6M around the cutoff from the '09 to '10 MY. I'll try to see if there is something worth waiting for in '10, otherwise get a late-build '09. Even with my timeline I still feel impatient though. My sympathies to those waiting for cars that you have already put money down on!

BigElm
02-21-2008, 11:01 AM
Well you can add dealer allocation deliveries to that. We all know that not all dealers get the cars at the same time. Some earlier than others.... Here's hoping that the SE region (GA) gets to be one of the first :)

mikeslc
02-21-2008, 11:33 AM
Edmunds Inside Line has a good article about the G8 production line:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124795

I tried to start a new thread, but couldn't. Is it because I'm a new member?

1QUICKAUSSIE
02-21-2008, 11:38 AM
I guess the dealers in Houston are having there test drive day today, I was driving along and I see a few cars and a little autocross track from a fair way away in a car park at the Houston horse racing facility. something told me to turn around and go back and get a closer look. so i drive back and bingo two G8's and one G8-GT, not a single person in sight, this is getting exciting guys!! i honestly dont know if i will be able to hold off for thr GXP, the G8-GT that was there was pretty bloody nice, evoke, premium and the sport pakage. black seats (no red inesert). very nice car !!

GigaHz
02-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Edmunds Inside Line has a good article about the G8 production line:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124795

I tried to start a new thread, but couldn't. Is it because I'm a new member?

Yea no new threads in news. And this is already in the lounge.

BBBBGXP
02-21-2008, 03:35 PM
I guess the dealers in Houston are having there test drive day today, I was driving along and I see a few cars and a little autocross track from a fair way away in a car park at the Houston horse racing facility. something told me to turn around and go back and get a closer look. so i drive back and bingo two G8's and one G8-GT, not a single person in sight, this is getting exciting guys!! i honestly dont know if i will be able to hold off for thr GXP, the G8-GT that was there was pretty bloody nice, evoke, premium and the sport pakage. black seats (no red inesert). very nice car !!
Dealers in the Puget Sound area, Seattle/Tacoma, had their test drives on 19th at the Tacoma Dome. The dealer I'm working with said it was great, however no word on delivery, or anything on the GXP. He said there were several dealers reps that didn't have any word on when they would be getting theirs. I would guess they are the same as this dealership that is a Chev/Pontiac/Buick store. I would think that those that are straight Pontiac, or the new Pontiac/Buick/GMC stores would see their G8's first.

Bill
02-23-2008, 08:28 AM
Based on what we are seeing for the '08 models, I guess this delay makes some sense (although I'm sure it doesn't make many folks very happy), but I suspect that we will start seeing '09s around the regular MY intro time of Sept (pure speculation on my part). If they start production at the beginning of March, they will probably stockpile them a few weeks before they even arrange for the first shipment. That might mean that the first batch won't even ship until mid-to-late-April. Then it seems to take about a month to get over to Benicia (late-May). They have to go thru whatever processing is required at Benicia (well into July). Then they have to get transported east (well into August). This makes me think that I won't see a six-speed manual version until after the snow begins to fly in Wisconsin in '08, maybe not even until the actual '09 calendar year. That just gives me more time to keep adding to my "G8 downpayment account," and be ready to try to order (if possible) or allocate my G8 GXP 6M around the cutoff from the '09 to '10 MY. I'll try to see if there is something worth waiting for in '10, otherwise get a late-build '09. Even with my timeline I still feel impatient though. My sympathies to those waiting for cars that you have already put money down on!

From pontiaclaunch, the current news is as below, so I would agree if they start tagging 09s after the first concensus in May (and tagging starts once they leave port), August anyway is probably about the soonest. I think for a lot of folks a big question will be whether the GXPs are available then, or come later in the model year...:

2008MY G8 Consensus
Four (4) monthly consensus cycles
- January, February, March and April 2008 (April will be 2008MY build-out)
Individual dealer tagging allowances and tagging cycle dates will be posted by BAC at Pontiaclaunch.com in the G8 Distribution section every month
Tagging occurs after consensus in one-month increments
If a desired pattern order is not available at gminventory.com, dealers can check back within their monthly tagging period as the site will be updated regularly with vehicles that are shipped. Two or more ships are expected to arrive at the port every month
2009MY G8 Consensus starts in May 2008

G8 Tagging Details

Please see GM Admin Message #PGD20080101 distributed by Order Fulfillment on January 30th for more information regarding G8 Tagging (Please see attached)
Tracking Tagged and Approved Units
- Available orders appear under UNPRODUCED G8 drop down box when vehicles are shipped from original port (event 3550) or arrived at US port (event 3750)
- After tagging request(s) are submitted to GM, they will be verified and approved or rejected
- If request(s) are approved (event 3550 or 3750), vehicle(s) will appear in dealer’s Order Workbench System once processed and invoiced at Port (event 3800)
- Dealers will be sent e-mail(s) from “gmtagging” for approved tagged units
- Tagged units will be shipped through normal shipping methods from Benicia, CA
- From each VIN’s Target Production Week (TPW) in gminventory.com, add 60-100 days for dealer arrival, depending on vehicle processing at Port and final destination*

YF5 Emissions: all G8's have YF5 California emissions, are 50-state certified, and can be titled at DMV

bracketracer
02-23-2008, 09:38 AM
Great info, thanks Bill!

RYANCE85
02-23-2008, 11:06 AM
I think it is just your typical politics. Certain dealers may know some one at the GM headquarters or they may have been a Pontiac dealer for a substantian amount of time so the guys who are new to the game have a tail between there legs. The ony real answer your going to get from any dealer is if you talk to the general manager or know some one in touch with GM directy. I have asked several of the dealers in my Omaha NE midwestern region and surrounding areas and they all seem to say something different. I ask them of the allocation they may know HOW many they are getting but when is sometimes an arrangement of it will be 60 days or early this late that check back later Ill call you or some other statemeant thats not really true because your trying to buy a car thats not even on the lot...

I would just wait till they get here I am assuming they will release them all over the US at the same time so people arent lineing up at the door waiting to buy the last PS3 on the shelf scenario

The guy I know here says 60 days That was yesterday - Omaha NE

BBBBGXP
02-23-2008, 03:49 PM
For those of us that have been around this forum for awhile, and pursue all sites available on the G8, we have determined that the "official" release date for the G8 is 01 March 2008. That date may slip some, but that is the best date for availability we have been able to come up with, so far.:oldfogey:

Ramsesiii
02-23-2008, 03:53 PM
I heard March 3rd, a while back.... But maybe a Saturday launch is to catch the weekend shoppers... hehe.

BBBBGXP
02-23-2008, 03:58 PM
We'll probably see TV/newspaper ads over the weekend and they'll give us the real thing sometime during the following week. Those car transports may run 24/7 but the guys to receive them at the dealerships don't. :popcorn2:

BBBBGXP
02-23-2008, 04:01 PM
I heard March 3rd, a while back.... But maybe a Saturday launch is to catch the weekend shoppers... hehe.

And do I note a slight case of the "giddies" going on here as the date gets closer? You have your dealer primed and are waiting by the phone for the call to come "take a drive"?:gr_jest:

Lichtronamo
02-24-2008, 09:25 AM
This is why expectations should be managed. Pontiac is not a luxury brand. I use the TL as an example because ever since I sat in my friend's new TL in 2004, it has set the standard IMO of what a "great" interior should be. When Acura is offering a TL with a damn nice interior, fwd and 258 hp starting at around $34k; why would you expect a pontiac to have an equivelant interior when they are offering 360 hp and rwd for $4k less.

The G8 is by no means a terrible interior, it is a "good" interior, but not "great". I also sat in both the gray and red G8s at the show and I came away impressed for the price. I'm sure for another $4k GM could have made it with some better interior materials, but it is not a luxury brand. I'll be getting an 09 G8 this year, and my wife will be getting a used TL next year, so I can get the best of both worlds.

I'm not trying to flame you, but convince you to buy the product that appeals to what you want the most. :judge: If it is an interior, then it probably isn't the G8, if it is for fish-tailing fun :gears:, then it is the G8.

No offense taken from the responses to my post re: seeing the G8 at Chicago.

I don't argue that the G8 is an interesting proposition from a performance / cost perspective. If that's your main criteria, then the G8 is an easy choice. However, lots of factors go into what car to buy.

The frustrating thing to me is that at its most basic level, the G8 is a large sedan, which means that there is an expectation of practicality. Some of the detail issues I mentioned, like the sunglasses holder or trunk release location should be no brainers that have no connection what so ever to the powertrain choices. How hard is it to realize in designing the interior that it would be better to put the trunk release on the driver's door or on the IP? How many cars (smaller than the G8) manage to get an overhead console and sunroof? If the G8 is to be successful, a lot of sales will need to be made from the V6 version, which is where these considerations will have more importance.

Maybe I was too impressed by the CTS and the interior of the G8 is certainly a let down from there. Although the gas mileage of a G8 GT may be problematic for me (I drive 30K miles per year - the difference in fuel costs between the G8 GT and a V6 sedan could be around $1,500/year.), its probably worth another look at the car, get the seat just right and sit for a while without impatient G8 fanatics waiting at the door for their chance. Not to mention the opportunity to drive it.

(GMS pricing is also an enticing factor that would somewhat off-set the cost of fuel)

lcwalden
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
Anyone know if/how an order number can be tracked? I got a fax titled "Vehicle Order Request Detail" from our fleet dealer today and it has a Vehicle order number on it that I recognize from the GMInventory page and it matches the White Hot GT that I am hoping for. My fleet manager endorsed it for purchase. The Fax also has a "TPW" date of 1/15/2008 - anyone know what "TPW" stands for?

Mr. Sandog
02-25-2008, 04:03 PM
Target Production Week?

barakster
02-27-2008, 06:41 AM
Just so you guys know. I was talking to a dealer manager a few days ago in the Chicagoland area and he said that if the weather permitted it; the G8 would be coming on March 4th. There was some snowfall two days ago, so it might come a little bit later, but I wanted to let you guys know.

gartht
02-27-2008, 09:23 AM
I have a question for the people ho have placed orders a few months ago and are anxiously awaiting their cars. How did you handle the loan? Did you have to put money down to order the car (if so, how muhc) or pay for the entire thing beforehand? I'm sure that I am not the only one who will not be paying cash and I was wondering if I am going to have to make payments on a loan when I have no car in hand or whether they will order it and then I can sign the loan papers when it arrives. I have always ordered cars made over here, so they only take four weeks to get it.

Attorneyguy
02-27-2008, 09:35 AM
I had to put down $1,000 in order for the dealer to tag a G8 GT on January 31.
I will pay the balance when it arrives (hopefully in the next few weeks).

gartht
02-27-2008, 10:30 AM
Did you pre-qualify for a loan or did you just know you would have no problem getting it. I should be fine also, but I am wondering if I should apply for the loan before going to the dealer or wait until it arrives. I'm not sure if you can pre-qualify for a loan a few months in advance of signing the papers.

bracketracer
02-27-2008, 10:30 AM
Speaking as a banker who handles all types of consumer loans, including car loans, you have to wait to do the loan until the car has arrived and you have a VIN. That process is real quick and easy thru the dealer, and not much more difficult thru a bank or credit union.

gartht
02-27-2008, 11:14 AM
Thanks for the info.

tjccpa
02-27-2008, 05:34 PM
I put $1000 down in December with a pre-authorized loan from my credit union for $25,000. I have to come up with the rest at deal time. They sent me a "check" that I give to the dealer, who enters the VIN and cashes the check. The committment is for 90 days, so the car needs to be here by March 22 or I will have some splainin' to do.

bracketracer
02-27-2008, 06:39 PM
That's a pretty good deal, but how do they handle the fact that rates have dropped since December (if they haven't at your CU, change financials!)? Will you get today's rates, or what you signed up for then?

davefr
02-27-2008, 07:13 PM
I spoke with my dealer today. She claims they haven't even started shipped them out of Benecia yet. Apparently they're waiting to complete the whole Feb. tagging process before any vehicles leave.

She claims that next week they'll start shipping the 888's and after that they'll ship the G8's that were tagged in Feb.

She also indicated there is no way for a dealer to track any tagged vehicle until it ships.

It looks like we're still weeks away from getting any cars.:cry:

gartht
02-27-2008, 07:24 PM
If that is true, its BS. I am really disapponted how a huge multinational corporation like GM is handling this whole thing. All they did was modify a car that was already in production. It shouldn't take six months to get them here. The Mayflower got here in the same amount of time back in 1604.

bracketracer
02-27-2008, 07:25 PM
I spoke with my dealer today. She claims they haven't even started shipped them out of Benecia yet. Apparently they're waiting to complete the whole Feb. tagging process before any vehicles leave.

She claims that next week they'll start shipping the 888's and after that they'll ship the G8's that were tagged in Feb.

She also indicated there is no way for a dealer to track any tagged vehicle until it ships.

It looks like we're still weeks away from getting any cars.:cry:

They really need to find a way to streamline this process. This whole thing seems to be taking way longer than it needs to IMHO. Take too much time, and some folks may buy something else (hmm, maybe not such a bad thing for me, it will just leave extra G8s for me to choose from!)

davefr
02-27-2008, 08:41 PM
The Mayflower got here in the same amount of time back in 1604.

I agree. The supply line is pretty bazarre. My unit showed a build date of late Nov. '07 and I'll be lucky to get it by April. '08.

Having inventory tied up at least 4 months before it even hits the dealers is just plain poor economics. GM really needs to figure this out.

r1owner
02-27-2008, 09:44 PM
The Mayflower got here in the same amount of time back in 1604.

:barf:

I nominate this for post of the week! :thumbsup:

r1owner
02-27-2008, 09:46 PM
I agree. This whole process is a cluster**** (as Sgt. Gunny Highway would say).

It's not like they haven't done it before with the GTO.

STex
02-27-2008, 10:23 PM
My guess it Feds like epa or staging to assure they are everywhere at once so one area does not feel dumped or ?....would just like to sit in one! I hope Early March is correct..

BBBBGXP
02-27-2008, 10:28 PM
My guess it Feds like epa or staging to assure they are everywhere at once so one area does not feel dumped or ?....would just like to sit in one! I hope Early March is correct..

Uhhh, our source at the source (GM) says it will be another 2-3 weeks! Mid to late March before they're in the dealerships! Yeah, I know, it sucks!

need4spd
02-27-2008, 10:29 PM
I agree. This whole process is a cluster**** (as Sgt. Gunny Highway would say).

It's not like they haven't done it before with the GTO.Here here, plus uninformed dealers and car show staff to boot.:The_Villagers:

gartht
02-28-2008, 12:19 PM
More lack of dealer knowledge.

Last month a local dealer told me they would get a few G8s by today. They even sent me an email stating the same thing. I just called them and now they state that no one knows when they will get any cars. It may be a few months. Also they will not honor any discounts. Now this guy may be stupid, but he claims his manager does not know anything and is not being told anything.

BBBBGXP
02-28-2008, 12:28 PM
Now this guy may be stupid, but he claims his manager does not know anything and is not being told anything.

Hah! That sounds familiar! I have been feeding info gained from this forum to rep at the dealership I am working through, and this guy is the Fleet Manager/GMBuyPower rep!:nuts:

gartht
02-28-2008, 01:46 PM
Here is an email I received from the dealer a few minutes ago.

Thanks for checking back with us on the Pontiac G8.

According to our General Sales Manager, he is still looking to receive the 2 G8 models he has on order within the next 2 weeks.

That does not mean, necessarily, that it will happen. We are waiting our turn in line with GM just like every other dealership. Please keep in touch. We value your business, and would like for you to be here to see the new G8 when it arrives.

Have a Great Day!

What a bunch of crap.

BBBBGXP
02-28-2008, 01:54 PM
Don't know about it being crap. Just proves they have no clue as to what is going on and when they will see their G8s!!!! Back to the original premise, dealerships are the WORST source for info on the car!:damnyou:

BlueGoat
02-28-2008, 06:11 PM
Talked to my main dealer today who said he has an allocation of 2, the first one being a black leather (GT, I hope). I also have first refusal if we can agree on price. He says they are already hearing +$4,000 over MSRP from other dealers. I think I can get a flat MSRP price which I'll take if the car is a GT. If not, I'll drop back to the second which is an unknown at this time. Date is mid-March or April.

davefr
02-28-2008, 08:52 PM
1. All dealers know what their MY '08 allocation is. (all they need to do is log onto pontiaclaunch.com)
2. If the dealer has allocation they may or may not have a tagging allowance for the current month. (pontiaclaunch.com will tell them that also)
3. If the dealer has allocation but doesn't have a tagging allowance for the current month then there's no way they'll know when they get to tag. It's a lottery based system so they should check back first of every month to find out.
4. If the dealer has allocation and can tag then they can choose anything they can find at gminventory.com for that month. If a dealer says they're getting such and such a color/option package it's because they chose it. (possible exception is the initial 888's)
5. A tagged vehicle won't get shipped until that months consensus is over. The dealer can't track their tagged unit until it's on the train. (expect a transit time of 2-3 weeks after the consensus for that month ends)
6. New ships arrive every 2 wks. If a vehicle config. isn't to your liking keep checking back. However the tagging allowance goes "poof" if a vehicle isn't tagged by month end. I have no idea if it can be re-instated during the next monthly consensus. Your broadest choice of configurations is first of the month.

Good luck.

waitinforone
02-29-2008, 08:21 AM
Can anyone post a Business Associate Code (BAC) or GMID for us so we can log on to pontiaclaunch.com?

Ausstar
03-04-2008, 04:20 PM
Well Guys ... Not Sure About All This Mess... But More Than Two Dealers In A 50mile Radius From Me Have Just Got Sedans!!! They Were Loaded Off The Truck A Few Hours Ago!!!!

Is This Way Earlier Than We All Expected Or What??? I Know They Are V6's But It Must Mean The Gt's Are Close... Closer Than We Think. Another Dealer That Said They Were Not Going To Get Any V6s First, Just Gt's, Now Tell Me They Are Due Next Week.... How Weird Is This!!!!????

G8>550i
03-04-2008, 05:20 PM
I saw a G8 TV commercial for the first time this past Sunday during collgege basketball game.

neelnug
03-04-2008, 05:56 PM
My dealer has a Grey GT all options coming in (mine) along with an orange one with a prem package. The dealer thought it would be month end.

BlueGoat
03-04-2008, 06:08 PM
My dealer said probably month end. His tagged car (one of two) is a GT #7 package which includes the sunroof, so it is not one of the 888. He said he'd call me as soon as he got an invoice on it which would give a better arrival date estimate.

Attorneyguy
03-04-2008, 08:13 PM
My dealer said probably month end. His tagged car (one of two) is a GT #7 package which includes the sunroof, so it is not one of the 888. He said he'd call me as soon as he got an invoice on it which would give a better arrival date estimate.

Same here. Dealer told me end of March (I did not get an 888).

SilverFox
03-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Ebay has some G8 listings now as well.

Ausstar
03-04-2008, 09:48 PM
well .... I Nearly Just Bought One Not One Hour Ago. Im Still In Shell Shock. One Dealer About 15 Miles Form Me Had A Fully Loaded V6, I Drove It And Was Impressed, But Not Interested. The Other Dealer Called Me And Told Me Their 888 Gt Was There. I Went Over There And As I Expected, We Wont Let Poeple Test Drive Them.... Well Needless To Say I Did And Loved It. It Flies... And Is Like Sleeping On A Tempupedic Mattress. It Is Awesome. Its The Mag Grey Which I Have Not Decided If I Like. Anyway, I Could Have It In The Garage Right Now If My Deal Was Doen On The Gto. I Have To Sign Papers Tomorrow.

So Here Is The Deal Here At Least As Far As Mark Ups Go. Msrp: 31845, They Had It Listed 5k Over That. Out The Door With 2k Done Was 39500 I Said No Way Imnot Paying Over Sticker. ... All They Did For An Hour Was Sell Me On How Important It Is To Have An 888 Edition.... I Really Dont Care. ... But To Them They're Were So Insistent On Assuring Me That This Is The Car You Want For Resale Purposes....
I Left With The Last Deal Thrown At Me For 2k Over Sticker.!!!!

So Who Else Would Pay 2k Over Sticker For An 888?????

r1owner
03-04-2008, 09:51 PM
I won't give a dealer the satisfaction of ass raping me...

Mr. Sandog
03-04-2008, 09:53 PM
well .... I Nearly Just Bought One Not One Hour Ago. Im Still In Shell Shock. One Dealer About 15 Miles Form Me Had A Fully Loaded V6, I Drove It And Was Impressed, But Not Interested. The Other Dealer Called Me And Told Me Their 888 Gt Was There. I Went Over There And As I Expected, We Wont Let Poeple Test Drive Them.... Well Needless To Say I Did And Loved It. It Flies... And Is Like Sleeping On A Tempupedic Mattress. It Is Awesome. Its The Mag Grey Which I Have Not Decided If I Like. Anyway, I Could Have It In The Garage Right Now If My Deal Was Doen On The Gto. I Have To Sign Papers Tomorrow.

So Here Is The Deal Here At Least As Far As Mark Ups Go. Msrp: 31845, They Had It Listed 5k Over That. Out The Door With 2k Done Was 39500 I Said No Way Imnot Paying Over Sticker. ... All They Did For An Hour Was Sell Me On How Important It Is To Have An 888 Edition.... I Really Dont Care. ... But To Them They're Were So Insistent On Assuring Me That This Is The Car You Want For Resale Purposes....
I Left With The Last Deal Thrown At Me For 2k Over Sticker.!!!!

So Who Else Would Pay 2k Over Sticker For An 888?????

Who else would pay 2K over sticker for a 6.0L car when gas is $3.50+ a gallon? That's the real question to be asking.

Tell them you could not care less if it was an 888 or not. Tell them you will wait until an identical vehicle shows up without the silly badges on it before buying. Then see what they say.

Unless, of course, you really do want the 888. :sneaky:

r1owner
03-04-2008, 09:54 PM
In fact, I'd instruct him to point his browser to this URL...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pontiac-G8-GT-PONTIAC-G8-GT-IGNITION-ORANGE-268-OF-THE-888S-WOW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6386QQihZ019QQitemZ 290211560508QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

That's assuming he can get his greedy fat ass fingers to only hit one key at a time.

Of course I wouldn't point him there until after I bought it, cause he'd prolly buy it on ebay, then turn around and sell it to some other sucker for 2K over sticker.

r1owner
03-04-2008, 09:55 PM
Oh yeah, and I always make it a point to let them know that I would never do business with them again because they are marking ****e up. I can easily find someone that will sell it for at least MSRP. I don't do business with *******s like that.

rayj
03-04-2008, 09:57 PM
Terrance,

Thow in the towel now. After 2 months of research and dealing with so many smooth talking sales peeps, the most accurate info available comes from here. None of the 888's have a sunroof. Every sales person I talked too either didn't know or said yes they do. Even up until today when invoices and VIN's started hitting the net.

The 888 is a "take it how it is" deal. I'm not sure that given the similarity to the handling of the GTO market introduction, that a sequential VIN or unique dash emblem alone are worth passing on what u really want. Heck, my stance is that I've waited this long, what's another few weeks. The selection will be better, silly raffles will be part of the past, MSRP will be adhered to at most, and on and on and on.

With the short market year and GXP's on the near horizon, it could be that what seemed like a really cool concept ended up being considered by most a scam.

Flip side is that it could also be that the car is a huge hit, helps end world hunger, comes with Osama's head in the trunk and cures baldness, thereby making the 888 series a true collectors item and worth the sacrafices.

No malcontent meant, those receiving the 888's have reason to celebrate. After all, the car that no dealership knew anything about until today is finally gonna hit the streets.

BBBBGXP
03-04-2008, 09:59 PM
$2K OVER sticker!!!???!!! :cursin:I thought we had this conversation once before???!!!???:slap: We don't pay over sticker!!! :banghead: Excuse me, the rest of us don't pay over sticker!!!!:rant:

Ausstar
03-04-2008, 10:10 PM
im not bloody paying over sticker either... like i said i dont care about the 888 thing.... when we go to sell them, no one is going to say "too bad its not an 888" at least not for the next 20 years.

BBBBGXP
03-04-2008, 10:17 PM
im not bloody paying over sticker either...

Whew! Just thought it was time for that price point refresher. Our battle cry is "MSRP or less, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead"......or something like that...:oldfogey:

tjccpa
03-04-2008, 10:17 PM
im not bloody paying over sticker either... like i said i dont care about the 888 thing.... when we go to sell them, no one is going to say "too bad its not an 888" at least not for the next 20 years.

Yes, but I keep my cars that long. I'm getting an 888 at MSRP, maybe a little less, but I may not live long enough to cash in after 20 years - I'll be 83. Hope my kids appreciate the sacrifice I made.

:bubbrubb:

Belo
03-05-2008, 07:45 AM
Terrance,

Thow in the towel now. After 2 months of research and dealing with so many smooth talking sales peeps, the most accurate info available comes from here.


Isn't that funny? You'd expect going to the dealer would net the most accurate info. I've seen one and sat in one at the auto show.
The only reason I'd go is to test drive (and they're not letting people do that).

STex
03-05-2008, 08:57 AM
I talked to the largest dealer in SA and they said they will price at invoice and not over…so check around…no over please…

Also, this car is a 4dr being fueled by the muscle car crowd and it will not be a split window vette, hemi cuda or ram air GTO in the future…see how many 4drs are going across the auction block now…the 888 or low vin will not help you 30-40 yrs from now…or next year…It will be just like the other G-8s…

IF your looking down the road buy the Challenger or Camero or z-06 vette or buy the hots the young folks are buying now because that is what is going on now with the old muscles…I will go with the G-8 I think? Once I can drive the dang thing...

Its Gr8t
03-05-2008, 09:21 AM
I wonder if the dealers will rape people for the V6 model too? If they plan on selling me a car for anything other than GMS, they can forget it.

So far I haven't seen any G8s on dealer lists near me.

barakster
03-14-2008, 04:16 PM
A dealer near me just got a red G8 in. I want a gray V6 with all packages and sun roof. I want to see a G8 that is not at an auto show; so I am going to hopefully see it tomorrow (Saturday the 15th). The G8 isn't near anymore. It's here.

J_Grand
03-14-2008, 07:08 PM
I am a little upset, because I live in Detroit where GM Headquarters are located and dealerships haven't received shipment yet. I understand that the are being shipped to the west coast, but you would think that the "Motor City" would at least be one of the first to receive the vehicle.

appletonrc
03-14-2008, 09:13 PM
I'll be paying MSRP at the end of this month, early next month (when it comes in). I wouldn't pay a dime over.

STex
03-14-2008, 09:17 PM
They (2) are in down this way...red 888s...

jawilsn
03-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Was just at a dealer today that first notified me they are selling for 5K over MSRP, I started laughing and proceeded to walk out asking you must be joking, are you serious? He told me to hold on and got it down to 1K over MSRP... still No go for me. Not a penny over MSRP, and just a thing I noticed most dealers list the cars on autotrader a tad under MSRP. When you go buy one make sure you get the "Internet Price" at the very most, expect to save a few hundred under MSRP.

PMD G8
03-15-2008, 11:02 PM
They (2) are in down this way...red 888s...

When you say "Down this way" I'm guessing you are refering to a general area, but I've never heard of or been to STex. :stickpoke:

barakster
03-16-2008, 03:18 AM
Well, I had quite the day! I went in to a dealer who had an ignition orange 888 with premium package g8 gt. My father was going to lease it for $660 a month for 36 months and pay $1000 down. Then we signed the paper work and they "checked his credit" and they told us that it had to be $770 a month and the end payment would be $15000 after 36 months. That amounts to around $42000 with tax and more than $2000 over msrp! We declined the offer. They sickened me after 3 hours of decision making. Anyway, we went to another dealer an hour away and we could of bought a panther black g8 sedan with everything but the sunroof. They put a few numbers together and here I am looking at the key to my new g8. I paid MSRP! I am very content with it. The red lights, exaust pipes, rims, and color look amazing. The sound package is a plus. I will be posting pictures in the next few days. It is 888 #137.

BlueGoat
03-16-2008, 06:18 AM
Yeah, your credit experience will be an increasingly familiar theme here in the U.S. If you can't pay cash, be VERY careful that you aren't being gouged on the credit game. Many of us who have had "good" credit ratings in the past will be shocked at how reluctant banks and lenders are to loan money now that Wall Street has raped the public. The Feds lowering interest rates is having absolutely no effect on what we pay out here in the real world. Just as you wouldn't pay over MSRP for a G8, don't be tricked into paying over MSRP on your monthly payments. Remember the fine print at the bottom of the ads -- "not all buyers will qualify." That means you make your deal at the advertised rate, then you find out you "don't qualify" and they either raise the rates, or stretch out the payments over more time to keep the monthly payments down. Do the math! Don't bite!

britqueen26
03-17-2008, 09:23 AM
:thumbsup:Has anyone seen a G8 anywhere in the US? Has the ship sank? I guess this is one negative about getting a car from another country, half way around the world.

britqueen26
03-17-2008, 09:44 AM
One of the 888 GT's is in transit to the dealer. Expected to arrive end of month. I should be getting a call when it gets there. *fingers crossed*

My 888 magnetic GreyGt arrived 12 march expected begginning of april .dealership called me as the truck rolled in,so nobody got to test drive it only me .What a dream !!!.Words can not describe.I loved my fushion orange G 6,but the luxury of the G8 has stole my heart!!!!!

higgledy
03-17-2008, 10:12 AM
Who else would pay 2K over sticker for a 6.0L car when gas is $3.50+ a gallon? That's the real question to be asking.

Tell them you could not care less if it was an 888 or not. Tell them you will wait until an identical vehicle shows up without the silly badges on it before buying. Then see what they say.

Unless, of course, you really do want the 888. :sneaky:

Better yet, tell them you'll come back this summer when gas is $4/gallon. Then who will be ass-raping whom? :bootyshake:

higgledy
03-17-2008, 10:15 AM
Yeah, your credit experience will be an increasingly familiar theme here in the U.S. If you can't pay cash, be VERY careful that you aren't being gouged on the credit game. Many of us who have had "good" credit ratings in the past will be shocked at how reluctant banks and lenders are to loan money now that Wall Street has raped the public. The Feds lowering interest rates is having absolutely no effect on what we pay out here in the real world. Just as you wouldn't pay over MSRP for a G8, don't be tricked into paying over MSRP on your monthly payments. Remember the fine print at the bottom of the ads -- "not all buyers will qualify." That means you make your deal at the advertised rate, then you find out you "don't qualify" and they either raise the rates, or stretch out the payments over more time to keep the monthly payments down. Do the math! Don't bite!

One time I bought an Acura. The dealership even tried to screw me on the titling fees. Luckily I knew just what the state charges so I caught it but it amazes me how dealers are so ****ing greedy as to screw people over $50 bucks. Don't they even care about repeat business?

STex
03-17-2008, 11:47 AM
When you say "Down this way" I'm guessing you are refering to a general area, but I've never heard of or been to STex. :stickpoke:

Never been to South Texas? drop by you will like it...final four here too! 2 reds still on lot in SA

britqueen26
03-17-2008, 12:52 PM
I talked to two dealerships today, and one said that they are getting two G8 GTs next month. The other dealership said they are getting 11-13 G8s in March. The bad side is that they said they will prolly lease out between $400-$500!!!

the lease through gm will run around $512.00 ,first payment due at signing,but worth every penny!!!!!!

jawilsn
03-18-2008, 05:21 PM
I'm so thrilled I bought my Black G8 GT yesterday. My dealer sold it to me for MSRP 29,999 (no leather :( ) but that wasn't a huge deal to me. The way my dealer "marked up" was by selling me protection pkg for the inside and out, plus tire and rim/windshield, door ding, etc protection. I don't feel bad paying more if I'm actually getting something. Overall I purchased, no lease and I'm glad I did.

Couple 1st day comments. The Blaunkput stereo isn't as impressive as they make it out to be. At volumes anywhere just below half and above the speakers distort quite a bit. I've still got tweaking to do but 1st impression wasn't that great. As for the comfort inside it's loverly, although the manual seat adjustments just suck for reclining the back... the premium pkg is probably worth it. However, once my seat is set I should be all good.

Best for last, even in horrid chicago rain and some ice this thing is soooooooo freackin fun to drive. I pushed a lil to hard around a couple corners in the rain and the ESC smacked me right back in line. Coming from my 1990 thunderbird back in the day those were all over the place in the rain.

Overall GT is GrrreaT My AIM screen name is bgprix9982 if anyone wants to chat or has questions.

BlueGoat
03-18-2008, 06:01 PM
I haven't seen the cloth seats yet. Can you take pictures for us?

Also, does it have a sunroof? If so, what about headroom? No one so far has answered my concerns about headroom with a sunroof.

Thanks! Enjoy the ride!

jawilsn
03-18-2008, 09:59 PM
Here are some pics I took really quick tonight. They show the Cloth seats, the DIC, The trunk, inflator kit, battery location, front lights, and a couple random shots. I'll take some daytime pictures of it in the light after this rain stops and I get it all detailed.

http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg33/jawilsn/Pontiac%20G8/

PMD G8
03-18-2008, 10:38 PM
Great pics man, really thorough. Thanks for posting. :)

BlueGoat
03-18-2008, 10:38 PM
Thanks for the pics! The seats look a bit wider than my GTO, but hard to tell. First shots I've seen of cloth which may really be better to anchor your butt on turns than the leather. My dealer, who drove the G8 in KC last week said the leather is softer and feels "thicker" than the GTO leather seats. (Maybe genuine kangaroo hides?)

I'm about 10 days away from mine, so thanks for the shots!!

appletonrc
03-19-2008, 06:33 AM
The vids are cool. For being "dead quiet" you sure can hear the engine! Thanks for posting.

Dovi
03-19-2008, 10:10 AM
Congrats!

I see one of your pics is titled no sunroof yet... Be VERY careful, noone is ready to put a roof in these things and are going to try and put whatever they can get to fit in it... In my case they are trying to give me some little sunroof that they put in mustangs and GTO's that ends up with an 8 inch opening. I am sure it is fine for those cars but not for the G8!

jawilsn
03-19-2008, 02:18 PM
Yeah,

I was I'm thinking i'll have to wait some time before they come out with something specific. Or wonder if there's an Aussie version we can import???

carfansince73
03-19-2008, 02:38 PM
Here are some pics I took really quick tonight. They show the Cloth seats, the DIC, The trunk, inflator kit, battery location, front lights, and a couple random shots. I'll take some daytime pictures of it in the light after this rain stops and I get it all detailed.

http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg33/jawilsn/Pontiac%20G8/


Nice pics and video. At least you have that Corolla to offset the gas mileage on this car, which will be very bad for a while I imagine. :gears:

The TPMS with the actual tire pressure readings is very nice.

Rufas
03-20-2008, 01:03 PM
My dealer called a few hours ago. My Black GT Premium Package + Sport Package + Sunroof (NOT one of the 888s) is here!

I'll be picking it up this evening. Can you say 'road trip' this weekend? http://www.g8board.com/forums/images/smilies/gears.gif

Attorneyguy
03-20-2008, 01:46 PM
My dealer called a few hours ago. My Black GT Premium Package + Sport Package + Sunroof (NOT one of the 888s) is here!

I'll be picking it up this evening. Can you say 'road trip' this weekend? http://www.g8board.com/forums/images/smilies/gears.gif

Where are you located?

Rufas
03-20-2008, 02:12 PM
Where are you located?

Atlanta Area

My dealer is Carl Back Pontiac/GMC in Kennesaw, GA. This is the dealer that has #001 and has it on EBay. They think they are going to get between $45K to $55K - what a joke!

BTW - I paid MSRP - no discount. The purchase of this G8 caught us at the wrong time. Until 5 weeks ago we had no intention of getting a new car for a couple of years.

At least that was the plan - until our 99 GP GTP spun a rod bearing 5 weeks ago.

Oh yea - one more thing - this is my wife's car. She is the one that picked it out. She's the one that 'has' to have the horsepower car in the family.

You don't even what to know what I drive to work....