Great Article on the V6

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2264/article.html

but its a v6 :bunny:

The 3.6L V6 is a pretty good engine and 261 HP is a lot more than what the 3.9 produced. I'm suprised that it doesn't have the 6-Speed Automatic though, still, a 5-Speed Auto is certainly better than the old 4-Speed.

The 3.6L V6 is a pretty good engine and 261 HP is a lot more than what the 3.9 produced. I'm suprised that it doesn't have the 6-Speed Automatic though, still, a 5-Speed Auto is certainly better than the old 4-Speed.

Yea, but it's a V6 :punch:

I'D DRIVE A VAY-SECKS.
Oh yes I would.

261 HP isn't bad, but at 4,000 lbs I think it will be a fleet car slug which will really hurt it's image.

When was the last time you saw a Chrysler 300 fleet car...or a BMW 5 series fleet car. If GM is going to improve it's image it has to stand strong and stop producing it's "quality cars" as fleet vehicles. Let Chevy make the fleet cars.

261 HP isn't bad, but at 4,000 lbs I think it will be a fleet car slug which will really hurt it's image.

When was the last time you saw a Chrysler 300 fleet car...or a BMW 5 series fleet car. If GM is going to improve it's image it has to stand strong and stop producing it's "quality cars" as fleet vehicles. Let Chevy make the fleet cars.
But this has more HP than the V6 in a 300 and 5-Series.

It will be interesting to see how much power it has in that heavy of a car... doesn't the G6 get the 3.6L V6 for 2007?

This is funny!!! I was going to create a poll to weigh preference..

LY7 6cyl
L76 8cyl

But it would just be a big joke...pointless!! :bunny:

It will be interesting to see how much power it has in that heavy of a car... doesn't the G6 get the 3.6L V6 for 2007?

Yes, the 2007 G6 GTP has the 252 hp 3.6L 6 with a 6 speed automatic. I considered buying one until I found out how cool the G8 will be.

Yes, the 2007 G6 GTP has the 252 hp 3.6L 6 with a 6 speed automatic. I considered buying one until I found out how cool the G8 will be.

Sounds like the G6 V6 will tear up the G8 V6.

Sounds like the G6 V6 will tear up the G8 V6.

Lighting up tires with FWD is fun!! :D

RWD > FWD /thread :judge:

say all you want about RWD>FWD but it would suck to have this G8 and get spanked by a G6

What does the G6 do the quarter mile?

Well i've done a bit of searching.

The VE SV6 manual does the 1/4 in 15.5 sec.

Shouldn't a smaller engine get more gears? DCM is up to seven now in the E350...

For 0-60 or 1/4 mile you won't be out of 2nd or 3rd at the most anyway. With a very high (4.03) first gear ratio in the 6A compared to the 5A of 3.42 and the 6M of 3.01, the 6A may have to hit 3rd prior to the trap while either of teh other two may still be able to be in 2nd. Extra shift adds time.

261 HP isn't bad, but at 4,000 lbs I think it will be a fleet car slug which will really hurt it's image.

When was the last time you saw a Chrysler 300 fleet car...or a BMW 5 series fleet car. If GM is going to improve it's image it has to stand strong and stop producing it's "quality cars" as fleet vehicles. Let Chevy make the fleet cars.


You haven't been to Honolulu recently. The streets are clogged with 300 Touring rentals.

For 0-60 or 1/4 mile you won't be out of 2nd or 3rd at the most anyway. With a very high (4.03) first gear ratio in the 6A compared to the 5A of 3.42 and the 6M of 3.01, the 6A may have to hit 3rd prior to the trap while either of teh other two may still be able to be in 2nd. Extra shift adds time.

Yeah, but i only USED to live my life a quarter mile at a time. Today it's more like 50% of the time on the highway. Six gears would be good with the V6, seven would be GREAT. But five? In a world where you're trying to more with less, gears are the only way to have your cake and eat it too. More is where it's at. DCX got it early- Now it's your team's turn.

What does the G6 do the quarter mile?

Sorry I've missed this until now, but a G6 GTP with the 3.9L and 6sp can do the 1/4 in roughly 14.9 @ 95mph. G6's with the 3.6L are pretty much the same.

When was the last time you saw a Chrysler 300 fleet car...


I've seen quite a few.

When was the last time you saw a Chrysler 300 fleet car...


I've seen quite a few.

Yeah, but i only USED to live my life a quarter mile at a time. Today it's more like 50% of the time on the highway. Six gears would be good with the V6, seven would be GREAT. But five? In a world where you're trying to more with less, gears are the only way to have your cake and eat it too. More is where it's at. DCX got it early- Now it's your team's turn.

:confused:The rental Magnum 3.5 V6 I had had only 5 gears too. I'm guessing GM is still low on capacity building all the 6-speed trannies for RWD. Anyways who cares it's a V6.

:confused:The rental Magnum 3.5 V6 I had had only 5 gears too. I'm guessing GM is still low on capacity building all the 6-speed trannies for RWD. Anyways who cares it's a V6.


$4 a gallon, $5 a gallon, $6 a gallon...Some European countries are already paying in excess of $10 a gallon. What's your breaking point? China is going to be a major oil consuming nation within a couple of years and we'll ALL wish we were driving sixes, fours or maybe even mopeds. That being the case, and assuming we all still want performance too, MORE GEARS ARE THE ONLY ANSWER. Well, ok, that or a diesel engine.

Ever notice how high-powered drag cars don't need a lot of gears? First it was four-speeds, then three-speed automatics, then two-speed Powerglides. Now, funny cars only have a single gear and they rely on the clutch to take them from zero to 330 mph. If you've got the power, you don't need the gears. But conversely...

Enough said!

but its a v6 :bunny:

I would LOVE a V8 in my G8. But will I be able to afford one come 2009? Hell, my Forester has more than enough power that I don't get a chance to exploit in 99% of my driving.

If I went with a V6, I could save in up-front costs and the price difference between the base and the GT would pay for a lot of fuel for the V6!

Sure, the V6 wouldn't compare to the 6.0L V8 and it would certainly be slower than my Subaru, but I think I could deal...

261 HP isn't bad, but at 4,000 lbs I think it will be a fleet car slug which will really hurt it's image.

The top selling sedans in the US are the Honda Accord and the Toyota Camry, and an incredible 70% of them are sold as 4-cylinders. Up until this year, the engines had 160 horsepower or less in cars that weighed at least 3000 pounds. Tens of millions of Americans drive cars like that every single day.

The G8 V6 will be a slug compared to a G8 GT, but still faster than most family cars, most SUVs, and almost every minivan. The Chrysler 300 is offered with a 178 horsepower V6 and 4-speed auto or 250 horsepower V6 and 4 speed auto (the better V6 used to be offered with a 5 speed auto, but for some reason Chrysler switched back to the 4-speed for model year 2007 or 2008). The G8 should be quicker than both.


When was the last time you saw a Chrysler 300 fleet car...or a BMW 5 series fleet car. If GM is going to improve it's image it has to stand strong and stop producing it's "quality cars" as fleet vehicles. Let Chevy make the fleet cars.

GM shouldn't make any fleet cars. But that said, the Chrysler 300 is definitely a fleet car. I see them with the Enterprise badge all of the time.

i think the V6 is considered adequate, not slow, but not exactly a screamer. those that just want the G8 just for the styling, but prefer a quieter economical ride wont be disappointed, although you can add turbos or supercharger later if you get sick of being eaten alive by the GT

The interior dimensions of the G8 make it one of the most spacious family cars you can buy, and it has every safety feature standard.

Even ignoring the performance angle, this could be a fantastic family car. I think family car shoppers would be totally satisfied with the G8 V6.

Even ignoring the performance angle, this could be a fantastic family car. I think family car shoppers would be totally satisfied with the G8 V6.

exactly, the Commodore is a family car in australia, Pontiac just happen to be getting the sports versions (with some of the luxry bits thrown in)

we have:

Omega
Lumina
Berlina
SV-6
SS
SS-V
Calais
Calais-V

only the SV-6 and SS's are sports models, the rest are all family cars

I wouldn't mind a V6, but I need Traction control for some snow conditions.

I wouldn't mind a V6, but I need Traction control for some snow conditions.

I think it comes with it standard doesn't it?

Or does the ESP take over that now?

I think it comes with it standard doesn't it?

Or does the ESP take over that now?

Biggest problem if you live in snow country is the lack of limited slip differential in the V6. Big mistake by Pontiac, considering the V6 is likely to be bought by many people who just need a roomy family car.

Traction control can only help you, now stay with me here :boink: , CONTROL whatever TRACTION is already available. It can't increase traction. If you get on a slippery surface where one wheel has a bit of traction but the other one is on ice you will "sit and spin" the one wheel. Of course if both wheels are on a sheet of ice, even a limited slip diff may not save you but it would always help a lot.

If you get the V6, live in the north, and have to navigate any snowy hills or deep snow (unplowed) conditions, I think you should plan on needing snow tires.

If you get on a slippery surface where one wheel has a bit of traction but the other one is on ice you will "sit and spin" the one wheel.

I disagee with this. The abs or traction control should slow the spinning one and give the power to the other one. This is the way my Honda worked with an opened diff.

I disagee with this. The abs or traction control should slow the spinning one and give the power to the other one. This is the way my Honda worked with an opened diff.

You are right in that, I was not clear and thorough.

I guess what I should have said is that an LSD is very helpful for snow, in my opinion MORE helpful than traction control!

When you're trying to get moving on a slippery surface, you need some momentum. If you start rolling a bit but then your wheel slips, the TC kills power and/or uses the brakes to prevent any slippage, and you loose whatever speed you've built up. Many people, especially with the older TCs turn them OFF during winter because of this.

Yes I agree, limited slip is better than traction control.

Yea, but it's a V6 :punch:

better than a 4-banger. :)

Biggest problem if you live in snow country is the lack of limited slip differential in the V6. Big mistake by Pontiac, considering the V6 is likely to be bought by many people who just need a roomy family car.


I agree. Why did GM do this? How much money could it cost GM to offer Limited-Slip as an option.

My uncle had a '73 Ford 150 without limited-slip and he was always stuck in snow or mud (he's a farmer). He did not make that mistake on his next truck. But he still buys Fords, I guess he never really wised-up. ;)

They should have put it in a sport package, or made it a stand alone option for $595.

They probably have it in their parts bin, because the CTS 3.6 had it as an option from '04 to '07. (starting with '08 i'm not sure if it's still an option or standard)

Oh for god sakes people why do you keep downing the V6!!! 0 to 60 in 7 seconds isnt bad at all! The Chevrolet impala SS of 94-96 did it in just over 7! Whats the problem! :rant:

5.3 and 7 is a big dif but... i agree it is a great car. you dont really need the extra power and the V6 does have a raw to it! honestly V6 owners or buyers dont worry, its great!

I guess Holden didnt think the six needed it cause we dont get that much snow over here in Oz.

Oh for god sakes people why do you keep downing the V6!!! 0 to 60 in 7 seconds isnt bad at all! The Chevrolet impala SS of 94-96 did it in just over 7! Whats the problem! :rant:

Not sure who that comment was addressed towards??

I never said the V6 underperformed. 0 to 60 in 7 is a great time.

All I said that was in inclement weather, especially snow & ice, an LSD makes the difference between a RWD car being very manageable versus frustrating. If your part of the country doesn't get snow you don't know the feeling of one wheel spinning away, usually getting you even more stuck, as you pray you can get up a hill in the road or into your own driveway.

With an open diff I'd be forced to buy snow tires. And even with those my traction level would equal whichever tire has the LEAST grip on the road, instead of the LSD giving me the traction level of which tire has the MOST grip.

Also- driving on wet roads, an LSD makes quite the difference in acceleration ability, especially coming out of corners.

When was the last time you saw a Chrysler 300 fleet car....

I Rented one two years ago...

Oh for god sakes people why do you keep downing the V6!!! 0 to 60 in 7 seconds isnt bad at all! The Chevrolet impala SS of 94-96 did it in just over 7! Whats the problem! :rant:

Not only that, the Impala SS weighed more and has one *less* HP!