Here's the link

http://pontiacunderground.autos.yahoo.com/blog.php?id=401


:bubbrubb:

:drool:

Glad to see the production model finally arrive on US soil.

Do we know who gets #1?

I'm trying for #888.

I'm hoping Pontiac will play up the delivery of #1.

Best believe No 1 is staying with GM. That will leave 2-887

For all of us

Do we know who gets #1?

Yup ;)

Yup ;)

That was going to be my guess!

Wasn't the boat in the Holden sendoff pics the "Coral Highway?" Name on that boat appears to be "Nevada Highway."

That vessel is the K Line Sierra Nevada Highway. It is currently in port in Mumbai India. I'm off to AMPORTS in Benecia Saturday 1/26 which is where the GTO came to the US and where the G8 is coming. Monday 01/28? June 2010.. Nobody knows for sure and my local dealer doesn't have a clue. Pontiac is talking March or April for showrooms. Why? I don't know. Could be the recall on the Holden V-6's having a gas leak which is said to not effect the V-6 G8.. Could be that they built the regular cars and then decided to build the "first" 888 later. Honestly, the later is my guess. Whatever the truth is I'm getting darned tired of nobody knowing for sure and tired of waiting for the G8.. I'm off to look at used CTS' when I get back from Benecia if I don't see a literal boatload of G-8's..

Okay, I'll admit that I'm wrong. K Line Sierra Nevada Highway was spotted in the Bay near San Francisco on 01/20/08 next destination is Nagoya, Japan..

http://www.boatingsf.com/ais_shipnotes.php

I'll update after my trip to Benicia tomorrow. Haven't spotted the Coral Highway yet but I'll find it.

That vessel is the K Line Sierra Nevada Highway. It is currently in port in Mumbai India. I'm off to AMPORTS in Benecia Saturday 1/26 which is where the GTO came to the US and where the G8 is coming. Monday 01/28? June 2010.. Nobody knows for sure and my local dealer doesn't have a clue. Pontiac is talking March or April for showrooms. Why? I don't know. Could be the recall on the Holden V-6's having a gas leak which is said to not effect the V-6 G8.. Could be that they built the regular cars and then decided to build the "first" 888 later. Honestly, the later is my guess. Whatever the truth is I'm getting darned tired of nobody knowing for sure and tired of waiting for the G8.. I'm off to look at used CTS' when I get back from Benecia if I don't see a literal boatload of G-8's..

Why are they unloading G8s in India? :stickpoke:

http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/pontiacinsidetrack/pontiacinsidetrack-481319376-1201265960.jpg?ympE3z.CcBdbAXms

Uhm.. I thought at first that the Sierra Nevada Highway might have brought the show/engineer test cars on a previous trip.. That's still my guess but I hope to know more after going to Benicia on Saturday. Nobody said they were unloading G8's in India but then again you never now, it's a great place to get a cheap wash n wax before you go...

LOL

jf

Wasn't the boat in the Holden sendoff pics the "Coral Highway?" Name on that boat appears to be "Nevada Highway."

The ships leaving Port Adelaide go to Singapore and/or Nagoya first. They likely transfer the G8's to other ships prior to heading to Benecia.

These ships carry about 5000 vehicles. That's far more then any G8 shipment.

Nevada Highway makes sense.

Edmunds is saying 7000 vehicles will be in dealerships by or on March 1st!!!!

Why are they unloading G8s in India? :stickpoke:

http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/pontiacinsidetrack/pontiacinsidetrack-481319376-1201265960.jpg?ympE3z.CcBdbAXms

:sneaky: tech support?

Actually it's a trick photo of G8's being loaded in reverse. BTW, the photo came from pontiacunderground, who knows a little more than edmunds, I would think. p/u also says that the cars were being unloaded yesterday while we were reading their post. :yumyum: And #888 (last on first off, LIFO) has to be in Homestead, FL prior to my collecting the keys.

:sneaky: has to be in Homestead, FL prior to my collecting the keys.

cough cough, you mean MY hands :angel:

chrish

Keep dreaming you nor I will win the 888,

some chump who just happens to find the site will win and probably wont know a thing about the car.

He probably wont even care for it.. and would rather have a TRUCK.

Keep dreaming you nor I will win the 888,

some chump who just happens to find the site will win and probably wont know a thing about the car.

He probably wont even care for it.. and would rather have a TRUCK.


so so true... :(

chrish

Keep dreaming you nor I will win the 888,

some chump who just happens to find the site will win and probably wont know a thing about the car.

He probably wont even care for it.. and would rather have a TRUCK.

Yes, but he will either love the car or will accept an offer for the one-of-a-kind car from one of the biggest G8 fans... so he can get a muddin' truck.

Or toss it on ebay for a quick buck

Can harm be done to the motor if you drive a brand new car half way across the country? When I win I will have to get the car back to Texas some way....

Went to Benicia today and didn't see a G8 anywhere. I must admit that there was one area that I couldn't get close to but I'm confident there wasn't a boatload of G8's parked there. Plenty of Toyota's, car carriers, both truck and rail and lot's of waves but not G8's. Read another board saying 01/28 and it may be true because I sent of an e-mail to my dealer last night.. She called me this morning and said they talked to the GM rep and they should have their limited edition next week. Starting to make a lot of sense until she mentioned her manager wanted to auction the 888 but they'd sell it to me for $10k over MSRP. I told her I'd think about it and hung up the phone and called the local Caddy dealer and have them working on a new CTS.. I think I'll put 888 on the license plate of the CTS until the G8's show up with sticks...

10K over! LOL! I'd tell her to go stick it up her ass.

... she mentioned her manager wanted to auction the 888 but they'd sell it to me for $10k over MSRP.

Hmmmmm...sound like when the first GTO's hit the beach here? Thought GM was going to crackdown on dealers pulling this @#%$!:cursin:

If GM doesn't put a clamp on it I will.

Just don't buy at those price points. It only benefits the dealer. Don't have a problem with a dealer making money, but MSRP is sufficient for the G8, no more.

Just like the GTO, I will wait for the price to become correct.

If GM doesn't put a clamp on it I will.

Just don't buy at those price points. It only benefits the dealer. Don't have a problem with a dealer making money, but MSRP is sufficient for the G8, no more.

Just like the GTO, I will wait for the price to become correct.

Agree about dealer making money. If anyone thinks being a dealer is so easy, why aren't they doing it? Don't give me that BS about not having money to start up, good business plan + desire to work = bank loan.

And wait you should (to buy G8) if current circumstances don't work for you.

Good post you put up.

Couple of points, the 08 is going to be a short production run. That combined with the 09 coming out with the manual I'm in no hurry to pay $10k over MSRP.. Might be able to pick up an 08 and save a couple grand when the 09's hit the floor and might be able to pick up a stick at a decent price a couple of months after they hit the floor. As much as I'd like the first G8 in town I can buy a lot more car for that price and sit on the G8 until I get my price.

Can harm be done to the motor if you drive a brand new car half way across the country? When I win I will have to get the car back to Texas some way....


Heres some facts and knowledge that I have learned.

Driving a brand new car across the country will not HURT anything.

Secondly people who say they are going to break in the engine are fooling themselves into thinking that they are doing the car a good deed. The fact is cars built today do not have the issues that american cars had 25 years ago.

You see 25 years ago Casting the engine was a lot different. Some small nano particles of the engine would still be in the engine and after running it for a few 1000 miles you should get an oil change so that the particles are removed and do not scratch other internal workings of the engine. Most engines are tested before they are even put into a vehicles. They are hooked up & tested to make sure they run and produce at least the HP that is recommended / claimed. The fluids are then pushed throughout the engine and in doing so even if there was debris it would be removed.


So in basically if you buy your new G8 GT and feel that you want to "break-in" the engine because it gives you a piece of mind that you might get better fuel economy then do it. But truth be told you aren't really doing the car any favors. Its a machine that was built to run. You hurt the car more by not running it.


Oh and I hope that we can get a some feedback on Lease and Actual Out the door prices from people buying this car. That way we can stand strong and not be taken advantage of.

This is superb news.

Booyaaaaa !!!!!

A Caravan of G8's a sight to behold.

Can harm be done to the motor if you drive a brand new car half way across the country? When I win I will have to get the car back to Texas some way....
Per the rules, the car will be delivered by GM to a local dealer near your home.
Heres some facts and knowledge that I have learned.

Driving a brand new car across the country will not HURT anything.

Secondly people who say they are going to break in the engine are fooling themselves into thinking that they are doing the car a good deed. The fact is cars built today do not have the issues that american cars had 25 years ago.

You see 25 years ago Casting the engine was a lot different. Some small nano particles of the engine would still be in the engine and after running it for a few 1000 miles you should get an oil change so that the particles are removed and do not scratch other internal workings of the engine. Most engines are tested before they are even put into a vehicles. They are hooked up & tested to make sure they run and produce at least the HP that is recommended / claimed. The fluids are then pushed throughout the engine and in doing so even if there was debris it would be removed.


So in basically if you buy your new G8 GT and feel that you want to "break-in" the engine because it gives you a piece of mind that you might get better fuel economy then do it. But truth be told you aren't really doing the car any favors. Its a machine that was built to run. You hurt the car more by not running it.


Oh and I hope that we can get a some feedback on Lease and Actual Out the door prices from people buying this car. That way we can stand strong and not be taken advantage of.

While I agree with what you say about manufacturing processes, there is still merit in avoiding WOT for the first 500 miles. Cars do not come with break-in oil, so you don't have to worry about dumping fluids before 3000-5000 miles, but gears, especially in the rear diff, need to harden up prior to pulling full torque from them. And even as well-built as new cars are the rings still need to seat.

However, a trick to quick and effective break-in was handed down by Smokey Yunich to some of my generation. Here is what you do. Straight off the showroom floor, you take the car for a drive, in a lower gear at higher rpms, enough to raise the engine temp into the higher areas quickly, and drive for at least a half hour or hour like that. Upon completion of that run immediately replace oil and filter and just continue to drive normally from that point on. One car magazine editor claims that is the reason his original 1968 car is still running strong today (without ever having been opened up)

Okay, I'll admit that I'm wrong. K Line Sierra Nevada Highway was spotted in the Bay near San Francisco on 01/20/08 next destination is Nagoya, Japan..


Actually according to GM records it was slated to arrive the 18th. Here's my post declaring so... :p

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821&highlight=fresh

However, a trick to quick and effective break-in was handed down by Smokey Yunich to some of my generation. Here is what you do. Straight off the showroom floor, you take the car for a drive, in a lower gear at higher rpms, enough to raise the engine temp into the higher areas quickly, and drive for at least a half hour or hour like that. Upon completion of that run immediately replace oil and filter and just continue to drive normally from that point on. One car magazine editor claims that is the reason his original 1968 car is still running strong today (without ever having been opened up)

Are you saying to run the vehicle at a lower gear at higher RPM, at a constant rate? Reason being, I've been told to ensure that when breaking in a new car, I don't stay at any one RPM (i.e. 5,000 RPM) for any period of time at all - that one of the most important things you need to do is constantly vary the RPM while breaking in the motor. This means staying off the freeway with the cruise control on, etc.

This is all moot today as the drivetrain is built more precise.

Are you saying to run the vehicle at a lower gear at higher RPM, at a constant rate? Reason being, I've been told to ensure that when breaking in a new car, I don't stay at any one RPM (i.e. 5,000 RPM) for any period of time at all - that one of the most important things you need to do is constantly vary the RPM while breaking in the motor. This means staying off the freeway with the cruise control on, etc.

This was "back in the day" '60s and '70s, and the idea was to do whatever it took to get the engine hot and keep it hot, just not overheating as that would be bad. The theory I believe was to speed along the sealing of all seals, equal expansion of all dissimilar metals (very few back then) quicker seating and sealing of piston rings and valves, yadayada. You would not have been runnning flatout at WOT, like a stocker trying to last 500 miles on a new rebuild without track time. And for those unfamiliar with Smokey's name, he was the best engine and car builder in the days when stockcars started out as stock cars. He bent every rule in the NASCAR handbook, and many rules are there just because of him. He once ran extra fuel line throughout a car, through the frame, coiled here and there - and was able to go enough extra laps between fuel stops compared to everyone else.

Old school was

1. Add a pint of Marvel Mystery Oil to the gas tank (carbon lubricated the valves)
2. Get the Oil to operating temperature (180 degrees or higher)
3. Let it rip in all gears

If it is gonna break, I want to know now and not later.

Using this break-in method I had great success with many motors built from the ground up. I still use the OIL TEMP as my primary indicator for when to open an engine up or cool it down. Water temp comes up almost instantly. Oil takes much longer. Turning the key and getting on a motor no mater what the mileage is bad -- IMO.

That said, follow the break in procedure as specified by the engine manufacturer.

As with any engine, you do need to break it in. Dont lug the engine and dont over rev it for the first 500 miles or more. Change your engine oil at 1000 miles. You will be amazed at the amount of metal shavings in your oil.

I'm just gonna dump about 3/4 cup of Comet toilet bowl cleaner in the oil. That always breaks 'em in real good.:gr_jest:

I know that someone may have posted this already...but does anyone know where the governor is set at??? If not I'll let yall know.

I know that someone may have posted this already...but does anyone know where the governor is set at??? If not I'll let yall know.

Seems like I read somewhere it was set to 155 MPH. Is that correct?

I'll try to physically confirm that as soon as I can! :thumbsup:

This is all moot today as the drivetrain is built more precise.
Very true General. My business sells alot of the precision measuring equipment used in manufacturing today. http://www.metrologynw.com/

10-15 years ago, acceptable tolerances for engine/transmission components were in the +/- .004" - .002" range.

These days, between the CAD driven precision high speed CNC machining centers that all major mfgrs. employ, & QC measuring systems that can easily hold +/- .0001", most internal combustion engines come off the assembly line like Swiss watches (almost).

The higher end systems we deal in are capable of holding +/- .00006", or approx. 1.5 microns.:patriot:

Yeah....what does any of this have to do with the first boat docking???

Yeah....what does any of this have to do with the first boat docking???
Just this Smartass.:gr_jest:

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11575&postcount=33

Okay gent's. Count me out, I looked at what a new GT would cost and the dealer keeps saying "just like the GTO" every chance they get. What that tells me is pay more than it's worth until we've got a couple more than we can sell and then we'll give them away.. I bought a CTS, 3.6, bose, full leather for $35k and zero interest. It's an 07 but it's brand new and my dealer isn't going to pay for their summer vacation by gouging me for a G8.. I'll be back in a year or so when the wife will get the CTS and I'll get a G8 for a reasonable price.

I figure I saved about $5k on the CTS and about $10k by not buying the first G8 on my block and couldn't be happier. That could change as soon as I see a G8 on the road though...

Okay gent's. Count me out, I looked at what a new GT would cost and the dealer keeps saying "just like the GTO" every chance they get. What that tells me is pay more than it's worth until we've got a couple more than we can sell and then we'll give them away.. I bought a CTS, 3.6, bose, full leather for $35k and zero interest. It's an 07 but it's brand new and my dealer isn't going to pay for their summer vacation by gouging me for a G8.. I'll be back in a year or so when the wife will get the CTS and I'll get a G8 for a reasonable price.

I figure I saved about $5k on the CTS and about $10k by not buying the first G8 on my block and couldn't be happier. That could change as soon as I see a G8 on the road though...

I'd be sure and buy that G8 from some other dealer and then make it a point to drive it up to that salesman and let him know that you'll never buy another car from them.

... with the CTS.
An '08 CTS, w/DI is not quick enough for me -
so I am sure an '07 would not be.
But, to each their druthers...
- Ray
Torque addicted

I saw "V" rated tires listed on one site, which is only 149 MPH. I doubt that they'll have the limiter set above the speed rating. If the shutoff is at 155 MPH, it will need "W" rated tires then; good for sustained speeds to 168 MPH.

I saw "V" rated tires listed on one site, which is only 149 MPH. I doubt that they'll have the limiter set above the speed rating. If the shutoff is at 155 MPH, it will need "W" rated tires then; good for sustained speeds to 168 MPH.
I beleive the 19" wheels give you "W", but those are summer only, so I figger most of us will have A/S "Z"'s on the car ASAP. It's priority 1 for me.

One of my Aussie Mates snapped this on the road near Melbourne yesterday.

http://forums.peddersusa.com/imagehosting/847a755fc06d16.gif

They have Pontiacs on the road in AU and we are still waiting for them to clear Benicia.

One of my Aussie Mates snapped this on the road near Melbourne yesterday.

http://forums.peddersusa.com/imagehosting/847a755fc06d16.gif

They have Pontiacs on the road in AU and we are still waiting for them to clear Benicia.

That's sad! Hasn't anyone from out in California been able to snap any pictures of G8s offloading at Benicia yet, or better yet ones being loaded on railcars for shipment east?

I've given up taking photos here coz they are almost part of the landscape - I see at least one a week. I saw a silver one at the zoo the other day (in the carpark, not on show...) which looked pretty trick.

One of my Aussie Mates snapped this on the road near Melbourne yesterday.

http://forums.peddersusa.com/imagehosting/847a755fc06d16.gif

They have Pontiacs on the road in AU and we are still waiting for them to clear Benicia.

Wonder why they are still testing them in Australia. Hmmm..... :D

Wonder why they are still testing them in Australia. Hmmm..... :D

Can you say 2009? Or maybe GXP? Guess we'll have to wait and see if some of our Aussie connections might know? Ollie you on this?:aus_flag:

Do I see a new rear spoiler on that test car?

Can you say 2009? Or maybe GXP? Guess we'll have to wait and see if some of our Aussie connections might know? Ollie you on this?:aus_flag:

You might be right on that being a 2009 mule but since Melbourne is over 1000k from me I can't answer this one. Isszy would be the man on the ground there in Melbourne.

You might be right on that being a 2009 mule but since Melbourne is over 1000k from me I can't answer this one. Isszy would be the man on the ground there in Melbourne.

Isszy, looks like you got the hot seat on this one! Any thoughts?:stickpoke:

Heres some facts and knowledge that I have learned.

Driving a brand new car across the country will not HURT anything.

Secondly people who say they are going to break in the engine are fooling themselves into thinking that they are doing the car a good deed. The fact is cars built today do not have the issues that american cars had 25 years ago.

You see 25 years ago Casting the engine was a lot different. Some small nano particles of the engine would still be in the engine and after running it for a few 1000 miles you should get an oil change so that the particles are removed and do not scratch other internal workings of the engine. Most engines are tested before they are even put into a vehicles. They are hooked up & tested to make sure they run and produce at least the HP that is recommended / claimed. The fluids are then pushed throughout the engine and in doing so even if there was debris it would be removed.


So in basically if you buy your new G8 GT and feel that you want to "break-in" the engine because it gives you a piece of mind that you might get better fuel economy then do it. But truth be told you aren't really doing the car any favors. Its a machine that was built to run. You hurt the car more by not running it.


Oh and I hope that we can get a some feedback on Lease and Actual Out the door prices from people buying this car. That way we can stand strong and not be taken advantage of.

I respectfully disagree. You are right the motor is broken it, though the brakes need to be used with care for the first 200 miles, the real thing you are breaking in is the rear axle. Same with Corvettes, I imagine. Take it easy on it for the first 500 miles, no steady cruising at same speed, vary it. Though you have the other came that just says - Drive it like you stole it! I will go the conservative way, even change the oil after the first 1000 - new filter and synthetic - goes in all my cars.

All of the test fleet I have seen in Melbourne to date have had the SS high wing spoiler. This one looks lower. The resolution on the photo is a bit blurry so I can't make the plate on it - If it is a late U or early W licence plate, it would certainly be a new member of the fleet.

Holden seem to hang onto the LHD test fleet long past the on sale date. I remember seeing 04 GTO's well into 04.

I think they also genuinely use the same cars as mules - load them up with new stuff and continue driving them until they break.

I'll keep my eyes peeled...

Thanks Isszy! We'll be looking forward to your report!:popcorn2:

Here's the link

http://pontiacunderground.autos.yahoo.com/blog.php?id=401


:bubbrubb:

:drool:

So - the ( first ) boat ( at least ) arrived.
It is now Feb 15.
Where are the G8s?
Playing with urls, I have tried searching inventory both locally
( near Atlanta )
and San Fran & Los Angeles areas w/GMBuypower...

No luck.
Are they still at "stuck" port?

Thanks,
- Ray
Just veeeeeeery curious...

So - the ( first ) boat ( at least ) arrived.
It is now Feb 15.
Where are the G8s?
Playing with urls, I have tried searching inventory both locally
( near Atlanta )
and San Fran & Los Angeles areas w/GMBuypower...

No luck.
Are they still at "stuck" port?

Thanks,
- Ray
Just veeeeeeery curious...

I drive by this transfer yard everyday on Hwy 316 in NE Atlanta. I've been looking but you can't see a lot because of the tree's. I'm gonna see if I can't get a little closer view tomorrow.

According to a Pontiac rep at the Chicago Auto Show this week, the cars are still in customs. Also, the XM radio incentive/service incentive is still being finalized.

whats the hold up?

According to a Pontiac rep at the Chicago Auto Show this week, the cars are still in customs. Also, the XM radio incentive/service incentive is still being finalized.um, didn't they learn how to do customs with the GTO? The XM thing can be added at the dealer.

There was a black g8 pulling into Carl Black (whatever the dealers name is) in Kennasaw just north of Atlanta on Sunday afternoon.

You do it your way, I'll do it my way. It's true that manufacturing tolerances and metallurgy are better today than decades ago. But it is impossible to machine any two metal parts to mate/match without high spots. Metal is a crystalline structure and as such, has rough edges regardless of machining tolerances. Two parts that must live together must wear in to establish the micro-grooves that allow oil penetration. High spots must be sheared off to reduce temperatures. And metal alloys today are just plain harder. There is a reason the FM says to avoid WOT for the first 500 miles. Anyone here who knows more than GM engineers (and any automotive engineers) needs to apply for a job to straighten the others out. I'll continue to follow the book, thank you.

There was a black g8 pulling into Carl Black (whatever the dealers name is) in Kennasaw just north of Atlanta on Sunday afternoon.
I was heading east on 285 yesterday and thought I saw a truck load of them heading west towards I-20. Just caught a glimpse so not real sure.

There was a black g8 pulling into Carl Black (whatever the dealers name is) in Kennasaw just north of Atlanta on Sunday afternoon.

Looks like they have 1 GT 888:

http://www.gmbuypower.com/ws/nvlWindowSticker.vs?make=pg&makeDescrip=Pontiac&style=GT%20Sedan&zip=30096&makeId=002&vehicleModel=/images/gmbp/16002/vehicle/2008/med/2008251.gif&year=2008&sellingSource=16&subModel=&subModelId=251&BAC=118281.0&modelId=085&pvc=208&mmc=2EC69&brand=G8%20Sedan&model=G8%20Sedan&type=%20%20%20&typeDescrip=%20%20%20&optionCode=&preferredOptions=&preferredColor=&style=GT%20Sedan&styleDescrip=GT%20Sedan&styleId=GT%20Sedan&dealerName=CARL+BLACK+BUICK+PONTIAC+GMC+TRUCK%2C+I NC.&dealerURL=http://www.carlblackkennesaw.com/en_US/HomePage&dealerStreet=1110%20ROBERTS%20BLVD&dealerCity=KENNESAW&dealerRegionCode=GA&dealerPostalcode=30144-7054&dealerBpManagerName=Bob%20Hanscom&dealerBpPhone=(800)%20783-2152&nameplateids=004^002^012^&partnerID=900001&userType=GMBP&searchType=4&VIN=6G2EC57Y18L988235&iPi=5&fPi=5

Why is tagging fee listed as $0?

Why is tagging fee listed as $0?

Because the tagging fee is a dealer cost item only and even though has a cost of $150, the MSRP for it is $0.

At least two-three 888's in Cleveland, OH. Even Red GT coming to Erie.

So far just 888's, no others. And all GTs

Hmmm... I'm going to say that Capital got their car then. I just called but the SP is off today.

What dealer in Cleveland has the 888s?