Curious what the list looks like. Some of you already know (or have some reliable info). If you don't feel comfortable posting here, just PM me and I will post it.

I don't have any inside info, but based on Pontiac's other GXPs I would wager several things.

1. LS3 engine
2. 6MT option
3. Larger wheels (20" at least)
4. Different suspension
5. Larger brake package
6. More aggressive aero package

Interior could have some unique features but possibly not. I am up in the air on that one.

Chip

Curious what the list looks like. Some of you already know (or have some reliable info). If you don't feel comfortable posting here, just PM me and I will post it.

Based on the Bonneville GXP, the interior list includes:

HUD
Better seats, 12 position likely
Homelink, garage door opener/home lights etc
Nicer leather
Better DIC
Self leveling suspension(not really interior but hey!)
Antennas in the windshields, no ugly mast thingy
And maybe a Nav system for all those that need that
Oh, and if we are lucky the CTS's hard drive system:boink:

Based on the Bonneville GXP, the interior list includes:

HUD
Better seats, 12 position likely
Homelink, garage door opener/home lights etc
Nicer leather
Better DIC
Self leveling suspension(not really interior but hey!)
Antennas in the windshields, no ugly mast thingy
And maybe a Nav system for all those that need that
Oh, and if we are lucky the CTS's hard drive system:boink:
The self leveling suspension is another thing I'll miss on the GT.

There's a rumor floating around that the GXP will be the only G8 with the 6M.

There's a rumor floating around that the GXP will be the only G8 with the 6M.


If that is true if I get a G8 it will have to be the GXP version then.
I'm not getting an auto!!

LS3
M6
20's
Hopefully they get some suspension from Pedders
3 gauge cluster from HSV
Body Kit from the HSV

I'd say a $37-38K MSRP, options would be sunroof, exterior/interior colors.

The GXP will probably only be produced in limited quantites so I bet the options will be limited.

Does that mean that the GXP will NOT come with an A6, even as an option?

Does that mean that the GXP will NOT come with an A6, even as an option?

A6 will be available....;)

Some interior upgrades would be welcomed as well as the LS3, suspension, wheels and exterior...

hopefully GM will see fit to just add the LS3 along with the option of a six speed manual.

I'd be happy if the G8 GXP had the LS3 and 19 inch rims standard.(and maybe lowered like the previous G8 show car)

Would be a hell of a car with 430hp.

JMO

Basically, to answer your question. Nobody in here really knows what will show up in a GXP.

Basically, to answer your question. Nobody in here really knows what will show up in a GXP.


I'm still not sure we'll even see a G8 GXP. GM's entire focus is shifting to the new CAFE standards and how to implement them.

If GXP survives it might just be a current G8GT + M6 and some interior fluff. I doubt we'll see a LS3 since new engine options are very costly.

I doubt we'll see a LS3 since new engine options are very costly.

Let's just wait till November shall we......

There's a rumor floating around that the GXP will be the only G8 with the 6M.

From everything that has been posted in the past the M6 will be available in the next model year among other options like the high rise spoiler.

I'm still not sure we'll even see a G8 GXP. GM's entire focus is shifting to the new CAFE standards and how to implement them.

If GXP survives it might just be a current G8GT + M6 and some interior fluff. I doubt we'll see a LS3 since new engine options are very costly.

The GXP would be such a low volume car that it would have very little impact on any CAFE standards. The CAFE is based on total sales corporate wide. So if 9.3 million vehicles sell... ideally, these low volume performers wouldn't hurt them too much.

Its the SUVs that are murdering the results.

The GXP would be such a low volume car that it would have very little impact on any CAFE standards. The CAFE is based on total sales corporate wide. So if 9.3 million vehicles sell... ideally, these low volume performers wouldn't hurt them too much.

Its the SUVs that are murdering the results.

I don't think it's the CAFE impact comming from the GXP.

Anytime a new engine is introduced in a vehicle there's tons of testing, certifications, support infrastructure, etc, etc. This drains resources that GM needs to prepare for CAFE. There's probably no ROI based on low volume. That's why I think if GXP survives it won't have a new engine option. We'll see!!

I don't think it's the CAFE impact comming from the GXP.

Anytime a new engine is introduced in a vehicle there's tons of testing, certifications, support infrastructure, etc, etc. This drains resources that GM needs to prepare for CAFE. There's probably no ROI based on low volume. That's why I think if GXP survives it won't have a new engine option. We'll see!!

I bet the ROI is there or it would have never been given the greenlight. Now whether it was planned to receive an LS3 (I'm thinking yes) or pumped up L76from the beginning, I believe the power will be increased. Like you said, CAFE will not have an impact. If there is a positive ROI with different engine (again, I would say yes since it is approved), there would be more to invest since the capital would be returned plus profit. Also, if the LS3 was in the original plan, I would expect that the wider use of the LS3 helps disperse the investment cost across a larger number of vehicles and even helps slightly with Corvette profitability.

Chip

Well, either way, it'll have the Manual, higher tune, and probably a few other goodies that I'll be able to enjoy... Which I will ^_^

Low volume models like this tend to return more on investment than regular models. All the hard work has been done. This would just be fine tuning, new springs and dampers, maybe thicker anti-roll bars, wheels and tires, engine upgrade (but to something GM already makes), bigger brakes. Most of this stuff they can just steal from the VXR that is on sale everywhere else in the world.

GM needs to work on getting 40-45 mpg from the Cobalt not the G8. For a single mpg gain in the Cobalt, they would need a 10 mpg increase in the G8. Assuming they sell 20k G8s, I really have no idea how many they intend to sell.

They intend to sell as many as they can build and we buy! Did you want one or two from this model year?!? HAHAHAH

The LS3.

They intend to sell as many as they can build and we buy! Did you want one or two from this model year?!? HAHAHAH

Of course, they are a business. But there are always limits to how many they can build. That's just the way it is.

Obviously the GXP is getting a manual.... but maybe its one of these?? ^_^

No Lift Shift :) (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60996)

In another thread some people were acting happy if the price tag came in around $40k. For $40k it better have all kinds of options.

Realistically, A $5k-$7k bump over the current $30k G8 GT sounds like what the target should be.

I'm pretty sure it'll come in at just a hair under $40k. Those of you expecting $35k-$37k are going to be disappointed.

I agree with scottz. But also consider that the GXP will be a loaded car with maybe a sunroof as an option or an upgraded stereo as an option. Which, BTW, every dealer will equipe it with.

I'm still not sure we'll even see a G8 GXP. GM's entire focus is shifting to the new CAFE standards and how to implement them.

If GXP survives it might just be a current G8GT + M6 and some interior fluff. I doubt we'll see a LS3 since new engine options are very costly.

You're not a weather forecaster are you?:biggrin2:

Anyone ever go to fastlanedaily.com. They same to think that the GXP LS3 will be detuned into the high 300s....

Whaddya think... a little bit too much literary license? I think so.....

Anyone ever go to fastlanedaily.com. They same to think that the GXP LS3 will be detuned into the high 300s....

Whaddya think... a little bit too much literary license? I think so.....

A simple 10% boost in HP would take it to just under 400HP. I somehow doubt they will only do 10%, besides, 400 seems to be a magic number these days.:angel:

I'm going to predict that the GXP will also have the Magnetic Ride Control system.

I'm going to predict that the GXP will also have the Magnetic Ride Control system.

Ya think so? That's a pretty pricey suspension from what I've read. Maybe its time they did a mass appeal test on it, and the G8 will be the test mule? Would be interesting, if affordable!:boink:

Maybe they could make a GXP, then a GXP-R with all the goodies and refinements hehehehe. Not that I could buy it... Just add some nice leather to the dash, good two tone leather on the side, and some other goodies and it'll be wholly better than a 5 series.... Of course, then it would probably be wholly more expensive LOL.

Maybe they could make a GXP, then a GXP-R with all the goodies and refinements hehehehe. Not that I could buy it... Just add some nice leather to the dash, good two tone leather on the side, and some other goodies and it'll be wholly better than a 5 series.... Of course, then it would probably be wholly more expensive LOL.
Say what you want about how Pontiac has been improving as of late, but a $75k Pontiac is still a Pontiac. :eek2:

I know, I was just saying..... Can't a guy dream. :p

How many people you know would spend 50k on a Pontiac, let alone 75 hehehehe....

Nice dreams though!:bubbrubb:

Everyone thinks BMW is all that..... there was a time when their image wasn't so.... lofty. They had to work to elevate that.

However, if GM were going to change an image to compete with BMW they'd do it to Buick; so we'd have Cadillac and Buick. Pontiac will never be elevated to that level.

Anyone ever go to fastlanedaily.com. They same to think that the GXP LS3 will be detuned into the high 300s....

Whaddya think... a little bit too much literary license? I think so.....

eh let them do it. I'll get it professionally tuned and all the stock gxp buys will wonder what sort of cam I have hidden in there. haha. LS3 should be easily over 430hp

An engine that puts 430 out naturally aspirated should really be a trucker with goodies attached. :)

I don't think it's the CAFE impact comming from the GXP.

Anytime a new engine is introduced in a vehicle there's tons of testing, certifications, support infrastructure, etc, etc. This drains resources that GM needs to prepare for CAFE. There's probably no ROI based on low volume. That's why I think if GXP survives it won't have a new engine option. We'll see!!

You do realize your talking about a modular motor thats already designed going into a modular platform thats already designed. There will be MINIMAL changes needed to put an ls3 in the car. The engines are externally identical so the structure is done. Electrically there would be some work but thats really about it. Besides there are already ls3's in the long zeta platforms running. Any cost will be minimal.

Note, that according to Leflane News, the GXP hoodscoops will be functional.

Will it have HUD! Please tell me it will have HUD! It makes no sense how the GP GXP had HUD yet this vehicle doesnt! I understand now why the V6 and GT versions dont have it, but this is going to be an '09 model! They have time to give it the options that the GP and bunny GXP had instead of pushing it along and giving us that same excuse:"it came straight from the land down under, so....". Come on GM, make me wanna drive my GP down a large cliff over the ocean!!!:whine:

Please tell me it will have HUD!

I could, but it'd be a lie.

The "excuse" is that it adds cost & complexity especially on a platform with both RH and LH drive. I'd love a HUD too, but Pontiac wants to keep the costs reasonable.....GM's been bitten before by making the cars with too many gadgets and too high a sticker. Granted most of us enthusiasts love that stuff, but most people don't care much either way and really don't want a $41K sticker price.

Will it have HUD! Please tell me it will have HUD! It makes no sense how the GP GXP had HUD yet this vehicle doesnt! I understand now why the V6 and GT versions dont have it, but this is going to be an '09 model! They have time to give it the options that the GP and bunny GXP had instead of pushing it along and giving us that same excuse:"it came straight from the land down under, so....". Come on GM, make me wanna drive my GP down a large cliff over the ocean!!!:whine:

Would you like some cheese? :bomb:

Would you like some cheese? :bomb:

Sob........Sniff.......that would be nice.

Anyway, im not sure what makes HUD so expensive. The GP GXP has it, yet its other two siblings, the impala SS and lacrosse super, dont, yet all three have similar price ranges! Same goes for the Lucerne super and the(now discontinued)Bonneville GXP! So how is HUD a financial issue?

Not trying to argue, just curious. It baffles my mind worse than picturing a 3 sided cracker when i wonder why vehicle manufacturers move away from options like that on future vehicles(engines and trannys dont count).:eyetwitch::offtheair:

I think it boils down to, as somone stated in an above post, the both right hand and left hand drive of this car.

Sob........Sniff.......that would be nice.

Anyway, im not sure what makes HUD so expensive. The GP GXP has it, yet its other two siblings, the impala SS and lacrosse super, dont, yet all three have similar price ranges! Same goes for the Lucerne super and the(now discontinued)Bonneville GXP! So how is HUD a financial issue?

Not trying to argue, just curious. It baffles my mind worse than picturing a 3 sided cracker when i wonder why vehicle manufacturers move away from options like that on future vehicles(engines and trannys dont count).:eyetwitch::offtheair:


Seriously though I think your answer is in your first post. :D

"it came straight from the land down under, so....".

Although I guess I can see the argument since they are adapting other U.S. only features to this car such as heated seats, OnStar, XM and remote start, or as the Aussies would call them, Wanker features. I guess GM has to put their foot down somewhere and HUD would probably be harder to integrate into the production line since it requires a special windshield.

The reason why I'm not hyped about the GXP over the GT is because the GT has AFM and the GXP doesn't. It's nice to have power but it's also nice to be able to save a little bit of fuel while taking a long family road trip somewhere. For me the GT is more than enough. If I ever get bored and more power hungry I'll look into the aftermarket scene for some bolt-ons, etc.

I think it boils down to, as somone stated in an above post, the both right hand and left hand drive of this car.

Sigh, so much for HUD. Goodbye HUD, we barely knew thee.:cry:

So u mean to tell me that the GXP wont have Active Fuel Management! I thought the point of this car was to beat the charger in everything, not just speed! The GT has it, okay. The GXP needs it too! I dont wanna drive a corvette sedan(well i kinda do but, u no wut i mean).

If I'm correct(please don't quote me on it) the GT has AFM because it comes with the L76. The GXP has a LS3 and doesn't have AFM. If what I've posted is false info then my bad. From what I know only the L76 gets AFM.

I'm sure that the members here who work for GM can elaborate more on this for us.

edit: I just read the press release again on the GXP and there is no mention about it having AFM.

Correct, no AFM has been mentioned anywhere for the LS3.

I thought AFM was one of the reasons that they were using the LS3, b/c it currently doesnt have it and GM was having a hard time equipping a car with AFM and a M6. One reason why we won't see a M6 in the GT.

Also the 6.1 Hemi SRT-8 doesn't have MDS(cylinder deactivation), and I'd be willing to be that the GXP will get much better gas mileage than the Charger.