I found out today that the Daytona Pace Car G8 (do I have the right race?) had a set of Corsa exhausts on it. I confirmed it that they will be receiving a G8 soon to fit the aftermarket exhausts that they are producing. I am a big supporter of Corsas and have always had their exhaust systems on each one of my Corvettes over the years. The Brownings, that own Corsa Performance, are great people that stand behind their products. No resonance in the interior, just great sound on the outside and idle and full throttle. Cruising is quiet. I highly recommend you put Corsas on your new G8. I know that I will!

Bob

That was my first exhaust on my GTO. It works nice with a stock car. Didn't sound to bad until you add LT headers and AFR heads. Then it was way to loud. I then went to the SW turbo catback. Much better.

I love the sound of my Melrose long tubes, Random cats, and X pipe with the Corsas on my Z06. Hardly turn on the radio anymore!

you have two corvettes and thats great, but why the honda civic

you have two corvettes and thats great, but why the honda civic

I am into Corvettes and the Corvette family really big. I serve as the NCM Ambassador on the C5/6 Registry and go to Bowling Green at least twice a year. I have met the greatest people because of that car, the Corvette.
I commute 40 miles a day to a site that has deer all over the place. In the early morning hours, still dark there is always the risk of hitting one or either wild pigs. I won't risk driving a Corvette there. I bought the Honda to go back and forth to work and to take my Mom to the Doctors when needed. She can not get into a Corvette, too low, or a truck, too high. The Honda is just right, but too small. My wife owns the Corvette that is for sale - she wants a 4dr bigger car. Alas, the reason for being on this site. I want something that is still sporty. So when all is said and done I will have my 427 Z06, our truck, and our G8. The Honda will be gone as soon as the G8 is in the driveway. The tag on mine says - 427 Z06, the blue Vette is BLEUBYU, and the Honda is kinda a joke and has this tag - 8NOVETT. I am reminded of that everytime I drive it, though I don't have to get gas very often. Long winded answer, but that about sums it up!

while i had my 96 impalla ss and 70 and half camero..with 4.11s .i to also had a honda civic for commuting...i leased an 05 base civic lx...auto..it was a very daym good car...could cruise it all day long on the highwaiy at 90 mph if i wanted to...i think it was like 179 a month for a lease..cheap..and i drove it hard.never had one problem and got great mileage

while i had my 96 impalla ss and 70 and half camero..with 4.11s .i to also had a honda civic for commuting...i leased an 05 base civic lx...auto..it was a very daym good car...could cruise it all day long on the highwaiy at 90 mph if i wanted to...i think it was like 179 a month for a lease..cheap..and i drove it hard.never had one problem and got great mileage

I want to have all American owned cars and alas only one Corvette now! Honda has been good to me, but its going!

I wish the 09s would hurry up, dying to get a G8 GT in metallic red! Shined up the Victory red Z06 today, then it rained.....stayed inside, she did not get to go out and play!

Corsa is local to me.

I talked to a Corsa rep today at a small local car show today. I asked him about the availability of a G8 GT kit and was told it will be a few months as they haven't had the opportunity to get their hands on one yet. He asked if I had one and if I would be willing to let them pull some measurements to get started. I gave him my contact info and he said they would get back to me soon. We'll see what happens.

^^^^ any word of the Corsa full exhaust yet???

I am thinking serious about gettign a G8 and I would love to get a Corsa for it.

^^^^ any word of the Corsa full exhaust yet???

I am thinking serious about gettign a G8 and I would love to get a Corsa for it.

Call up and ask for Jim Browning Jr. Tell him Bob said to ask him about the G8 cat back system. He says they are close to doing it, just need a G8 in there to do the finish development on. Great company, waiting on mine and I don't have a G8 yet! Definitely needs a little growl to her.

Corsa is local to me.

I talked to a Corsa rep today at a small local car show today. I asked him about the availability of a G8 GT kit and was told it will be a few months as they haven't had the opportunity to get their hands on one yet. He asked if I had one and if I would be willing to let them pull some measurements to get started. I gave him my contact info and he said they would get back to me soon. We'll see what happens.

Go by and talk to Jim about using your car. All he needs is one to fine tune, you would speed up everything for the rest of us and come out smelling, er sounding pretty good yourself!:driving:

If I get the car, I will be calling him....

If I get the car, I will be calling him....

I told him that there was a market for them on the G8. The exhaust is way too quiet. The more he hears from, the better!

where is corsa located?

where is corsa located?

Berea, Ohio - Close to Cleveland

http://www.corsaperf.com/

hi guys in the states why dont you guys have a look at the aussie made headers and exhaust systems they work wonders they instant bolt on horsepower try pacemaker,hm headers and difillpo exhausts cheers from oz:driving:

Are any of these available in 3" here in the States? If so, please sign me up. :)

My first choice is Corsa, but the turbos are begging for a freer flowing exhaust. :D

hi guys in the states why dont you guys have a look at the aussie made headers and exhaust systems they work wonders they instant bolt on horsepower try pacemaker,hm headers and difillpo exhausts cheers from oz:driving:

I imagine getting them here would be the $$$. Besides, my blood bleeds Corsa red!

I imagine getting them here would be the $$$. Besides, my blood bleeds Corsa red!

+1, I feel it is hands down the best sounding exhaust on the market.

My understanding is there would ave to be a little modification on an Oz exhaust... because of our DOT mandated bumpers the exhaust on a g8 is a couplr inches longer than the VE... so a VE exhaust would not stick out far enough...

+1, I feel it is hands down the best sounding exhaust on the market.

and no resonance, a very important factor over a period of time. Got to enjoy the ride!

I don't even have a G8 yet, but this is on my list for when I get mine. Magnaflows sound downright wimpy compared to the Corsas.

I put on the $180 flowmaster installed special 12 hrs after I had my G8 since that was what was avail...I am curious to see if there is any updates on the Cat Back Corsa exhaust...If theres any Corsa people out in cALI THEY can use my car...

Corsa is located is Berea, Ohio.

http://www.corsaperf.com/autohome.htm

I have a CORSA prototype on my car, but I haven't been in the same place with it. Corsa did the install with Rich and Eric our Ohio Pedders Dealer. I pick the car up on Thursday so I'll get a YouTube video / audio up later this week. My G8 and I will be in Indianapolis this weekend on the 28th for a Pedders Day. So any Indy based G8 owners or interested G8 owners are welcome to see and hear the new exhaust.

Your car is supercharged right? What size system did they put on your car?

**Nevermind, I talked to the engineers at was told they used a set of prototype mufflers.

Dropped my car off at Corsa last night. They were going to take whatever measurements they needed to prototype a system. I am going to pick it back up at lunch. They said it would be a week or so until they have the prototype ready to test out on the car. At that time they will be doing before and after dyno runs and sound measurements.

I'll let you guys know how things progress.

They gave me a new DSG equipped VW GTI to drive while they have my car. It is a fun little car that torque steers like a mother when you get into the power.

I'm on my third Corsa system. My Trans Am had a cam and long tubes with hi-flow cats. It sounded GREAT! It inspired me to buy an entirely new exhaust system for my Camaro just so I could run a Corsa cat-back.(I had custom 3-inch duals)

The Camaro has considerably more done to it and no cats. It sounds great too, just VERY loud! haha

My GTO has American Racing LT Headers w/hi-flow cats and a Corsa Sport system. It sounds absolutely incredible.

Corsa all the way. it's all I will ever run from now on.

so Corsa has no plans of producing a 3" catback?

Here is a link to the Pedderised, ProCharged G8 with a prototype CORSA exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlWcIhtH_lg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlWcIhtH_lg)

Your car is supercharged right? What size system did they put on your car?

**Nevermind, I talked to the engineers at was told they used a set of prototype mufflers.
It is all they have. The AFM makes exhaust more interesting these days...

Dropped the car off again today so they could trial fit and sound check a prototype.

They are getting closer.

Dropped the car off again today so they could trial fit and sound check a prototype.

They are getting closer.
I heard (From Russ at Corsa) you took it out for a test drive......Well?! Come on man don't leave us hanging! :judge: Their hopefully next project is adding their muffler system to the American Racing Header System.....Pick me! Pick me! :)

The mufflers on my car are axle back only. The large muffler in the center is still there. The feedback I gave them so far is it is too quiet and the switch in AFM modes is very noticeable. They expected both and are working on it.

From inside the car if I didn't tell you the exhaust was aftermarket you wouldn't know, until the AFM changes. Outside it has a little more burble and at WOT it sounds pretty good, subdued but good.

AFM, just say no. For me personally, I drive 1 mile each way to work. Everything my wife does is within 10 miles so I dont benefit from it like most do. I am probably going to turn off with the new tune. I will post any differences I experience. I just prefer the consistant sound. I got use to it to the point I didnt notice most of the time. My wife never noticed, but then again with the radio on full tilt who would. :slap:

Charlie do you know you can turn it off without having to tune it? You keep the enter button pressed before you turn the key on it will give you more menu options, one of which is disabling the AFM.

I don't know that we've ever seen the inside of the middle muffler. Has anyone chopped that open to see if it is straight-through or not?

Yes, that has been done and those pics are somewhere on this site.

I personally (not speaking for Corsa) don't think it would be wise to for the Corsa guys to assume their customers will just turn off the AFM with a tune. While they had my car this week they gave me an '07 Tahoe to drive. It also had the AFM system and a Corsa cat-back system on it. It was much louder than overall than what is on my car right now but the switch between AFM modes was imperceptible. They will get it figured out.

Yes, that has been done and those pics are somewhere on this site.

Someone posted pics of the inside of the RESONATOR mufflers at the end of the exhaust, but I still have yet to see pictures of the inside of the single muffler at the front end of the system.

From my discussions with Corsa the system that works with the AFM will be just as free flowing as would a no-AFM system. Corsa will develop a system that is fully compatible with the OE soft ware.

JP,
Is it safe to assume you have turned off the AFM on your supercharged car?

Charlie do you know you can turn it off without having to tune it? You keep the enter button pressed before you turn the key on it will give you more menu options, one of which is disabling the AFM.

No you cannot... none of the screens in engineering mode lets you do anything other than run a test of the gauges. All that screen does is tell you if you are in 4 or 8 cylinder mode.

No you cannot... none of the screens in engineering mode lets you do anything other than run a test of the gauges. All that screen does is tell you if you are in 4 or 8 cylinder mode.

My bad. I misunderstood that it could be disabled through that....My bad. :slap:

JP,
Is it safe to assume you have turned off the AFM on your supercharged car?On for both from ProCharger with the prototype tune and with the revised tune from Backstreet for the Corsa. Running the A/F tests it looks good fine. I am not an engine / tranny / tune guy so there are many on this board who know more than I. I have about 4,300 miles on the system and it works well. We get a Nation 55 MPH speed limit we are ready with the blower, AFM, five people and luggage we get a little over 28 MPG at 55.

And yes, the bog flat fat sound is terrible with the AFM... so I just speed up a bit and it goes away. I know Corsa will resolve it with a production system. Corsa is the gold standard in Pedders view.

And yes, the bog flat fat sound is terrible with the AFM... so I just speed up a bit and it goes away. I know Corsa will resolve it with a production system. Corsa is the gold standard in Pedders view.

That was my next question if you did still have AFM activated if you were getting the same noise I am.

Yeah, I know they will get it figured out.

Hopefully I'm headed out there Wed. to see how it works with the American Header System. I'll know for sure Monday.

Steel 69, just curious how you like the new era cold intake?

Any updates on the Corsa system?

Steel 69, just curious how you like the new era cold intake?
I really like it. The way Mike has his designed it dives down into the nose of the car....It doesn't just sit where the original air box was like some I've seen. It's quiet in the cabin and not really noticeable when you get on it.

Any updates on the Corsa system?
My guess is 60 to 90 days.

Any chance of some sound measurements for the Corsa like oxidizr did for the Magnaflow?

Hopefully I'm headed out there Wed. to see how it works with the American Header System. I'll know for sure Monday.

I spent the day with the Corsa guys and some of their other customers at the Mid Ohio Sports Car Course yesterday. In talking with them it sounds like they are going to use the prototypes that are on my car now on your car with the headers and see how it sounds. I am out of town all next week and said they could have my car if they need it.

I know they usually post sound clips but I don't remember seeing any actual dB measurements. I will certainly suggest it as I know it is part of their R&D.

I got an email from one of the guys at Corsa and he told me that they were developing an axle-back kit (development currently suspended - soon to resume). Has anyone else heard / seen anything? I asked him if a full cat-back was in the works, as that is where my interests lay.

The official line is they have nothing for the G8, but we know better. I spoke with them last week to pass on some information that may help from one of my Dealers. The AFM resonance issue is causing headaches with exhaust development. Corsa will resolve it and offer full systems for the G8.

Stay tuned.

I'm still waiting on the Corsa DB reds. I should be able to give you guys a direct comparison on them vs the Magnaflows next week.

The official line is they have nothing for the G8, but we know better. I spoke with them last week to pass on some information that may help from one of my Dealers. The AFM resonance issue is causing headaches with exhaust development. Corsa will resolve it and offer full systems for the G8.

Stay tuned.

Thanks for the info. I had suspected AFM issues would be why they would stay mum. Good to hear things are still on track.

BTW, did you guys post a vid / sound clip from the interior of your car w/ the prototype system? Is the prototype Corsa system you have most similar to a Sport or a Touring?

What I have is a very rough prototype with factory resonators. The look is spot on, but the sound is not all all finished. The interior noise level is unacceptable, but we all knew that when I decided to keep it on the car. I don't feel it would be appropriate for me to post an interior sound clip under these conditions. Corsa will get it sound dialed in. When we get the next generation on the car I will post up exterior and interior sound clips.

What I have is a very rough prototype with factory resonators. The look is spot on, but the sound is not all all finished. The interior noise level is unacceptable, but we all knew that when I decided to keep it on the car. I don't feel it would be appropriate for me to post an interior sound clip under these conditions. Corsa will get it sound dialed in. When we get the next generation on the car I will post up exterior and interior sound clips.

I completely understand. Looking forward to the updates.

'Z06' spoke with Jimmy at Corsa and they are expecting the cat-back to be ready in the next month +. I am VERY anxiously awaiting it's arrival! Corsa all the way for me - have the Corsa Sports on my Lingenfelter C6 and had a full Corsa Titanium system on my 'late' 01 Z06 - absolutely the best sounding exhaust system I ever heard.

Dual tips only for me....no quads!
:pir_flag:

Corsa makes an exceptional product and I'm know they are working feverishly to bring something to the table. Part of the technology though is the size of the resonator needed for each "tone" If the sound cannot be tuned with a "muffler" that will fit in a particular space they have a hard time controlling the drone associated with it. All in all though they are worth the money and the wait since they are full flow through design and scavenge very well.

Corsa will get it done, but it ain't done til its done.

I know Corsa is actively pursuing an exhaust. That being said, and displacement on demand, AFM exhaust always takes a little longer simply because you are trying to make an exhaust that sounds good on both a V8 and V4. It is easier when you are talking a quieter exhaust like Magnaflow than something that is supposed to have a muscular tone. Even once they do get a system out, it will likely still have some remenents of AFM drone, much like the Dodge systems do with MDS. The only way to really fix it will be to turn off AFM with a tuner or Predator..much like the Hemi guys do.

The Corsa and AFM equipped Tahoe they gave me as a loaner had no noticeable "AFM drone."

The Corsa and AFM equipped Tahoe they gave me as a loaner had no noticeable "AFM drone."

It's all a function of the design of the exhaust, transmission, etc. The Corvette does not have AFM because they have had issues with resonance in 4 cylinder mode. I have found that GM's AFM seems to come on a little less than Dodge's also. For instance, I have an 07 Avalanche with AFM...and it only kicks in on decel..or when your not providing enough gas for the vehicle to keep it's current speed, which is likely why you hear no drone.

Just a brief update. I'm headed to Corsa Friday to tour the plant, let them drive and check out my car, and do lunch. I will keep you posted as to the latest from the source facts ;)

Corsa is just now drop shipping my first system so they should be shipping out this week maybe!

Corsa is just now drop shipping my first system so they should be shipping out this week maybe!

Catback or axleback?

Just a brief update. I'm headed to Corsa Friday to tour the plant, let them drive and check out my car, and do lunch. I will keep you posted as to the latest from the source facts ;)

So what was the word? Am I looking at seeing Corsa on my car anytime soon? :huh:

any updates???

I talked to them today. They are working on it.

I talked to them today. They are working on it.

Same old news.

I emailed them for any updates...here is what I got back:

Thank you for your inquiry. We are in development of a system for the G8 and expect availability within the 4th Quarter of this year. Not sure on our exact date.

The plan is typically for a full cat-back system.

Same old news.

I wish I had more to say :)

I would rather have it done right than done fast.

I agree with Pete. If you want something done half assed be my guest! I like the fact they are taking their time. I like the fact that they are trying to get it right the first time.

I wish I had more to say :)

At least you updated us.I wasnt trying to call you out,sorry if it seemed like it.Im just very impatient,i just made my first car payment and the only thing im missing is full exhaust and converter.

No apology necessary. I post any info they give me, which isn't much. I'd be interested in seeing what, if anything was being "drop shipped" to mjorgensen.

I'd be interested in seeing what, if anything was being "drop shipped" to mjorgensen.

I beleive it was just the DB Mufflers from them.What id be interested in is if they, or someone makes a high flow cat to bolt to the cat back/stock headders.Im going the APS TT direcction and stock exhaust manifolds are needed. dont wanna spend money on what i dont need.

Wonder if he went with the red or the black? I got the reds in place of the Magnaflows on the cat back system. I would love to hear of clip of the blacks.

Plus one for the high flow cats! I think Magnaflow has them now but no pics or specs yet. What I'm thinking is modify the manifold to remove the spot where it narrows then bolt up the hi-flow cat. I doubt that they would catch that on a smog inspection and it should still pass the sniffer.

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Your comments on the exhaust note are welcome.

Sounds awesome!!

are those the red or black mufflers??

They look like stainless to me. If CORSA is OK with it, I'll post pictures. It is a prototype exhaust.

I haven't got to it yet but I'll do a take off with mine before long and see how it sounds in comparison.

pete, Red's are quiet = less drone, Black = Loud.

I haven't got to it yet but I'll do a take off with mine before long and see how it sounds in comparison.Looking forward to it.

pete, Red's are quiet = less drone, Black = Loud.It isn't quiet, but it isn't loud like a GMMG chambered exhaust. CORSA didn't say red or black. They said it isn't a finished system if you don't like it we'll put your OE bits back on. I like it. It has been tweaked. I like it more. My guess is finished it will be next to perfect.

pete either way im in love with the tone.

JP, your car sounds great.

I dropped my car off at Corsa again this morning for some more R&D. We'll see what happens.

It sounds good pete. I've been waiting for Corsa to finish for what seems like a long time. At least it will be worth it.

Patience=quality product
Plain and simple corsa is trying to realease a great product that we'll enjoy W/minimal drone

I picked my car up from Corsa on 9/26 and have been driving around for a little over a week with another prototype. They are getting closer.

I picked my car up from Corsa on 9/26 and have been driving around for a little over a week with another prototype. They are getting closer.

Thanks for the update. I am patiently waiting on the end product. Any idea as to when they will be market ready?

It looks like borla is about ready to pull the trigger too.

I don't know, I can't speak for them.

I can say AFM is a bitch and the current system (#2) is MUCH better than the first one in that regard. I have been getting quite a few compliments from people with the current setup. I am taking the car back on Thursday to try another set of mufflers.

The target launch date is November -- it is ONLY a target date.

Dropped the car off this morning and picked it back up this afternoon.

IT

SOUNDS

AWESOME!

Inside the car, I can hardly tell it is any different than stock. Cruising down the freeway it is nice and quite, no drone anywhere in the RPM range. You can hear the AFM kick on and off but it is hardly more noticeable than stock. When I bury the gas pedal it has a nice healthy growl.

Outside, don't know yet other than reving it up in the parking lot, but it sounded quite good. Definitely not stock.

I am supposed to call the owner this evening and let him know what I think. With his permission I will try and post some sound clips tomorrow afternoon.

Dropped the car off this morning and picked it back up this afternoon.

IT

SOUNDS

AWESOME!

Inside the car, I can hardly tell it is any different than stock. Cruising down the freeway it is nice and quite, no drone anywhere in the RPM range. You can hear the AFM kick on and off but it is hardly more noticeable than stock. When I bury the gas pedal it has a nice healthy growl.

Outside, don't know yet other than reving it up in the parking lot, but it sounded quite good. Definitely not stock.

I am supposed to call the owner this evening and let him know what I think. With his permission I will try and post some sound clips tomorrow afternoon.

Ooh, ooh, ooh!

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You have some serious lean in that turn :driving:How often do you autocross?

This was taken in my parking lot with a Canon handheld digital camera.

Startup/Idle:
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Will try and get more drive by, acceleration, etc. soon.

That sounds really different than Justice Petes clip. Think I'm doomed to run the stockers :(

JP's car is supercharged...

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Again these were shot with my Canon PowerShot S5 IS handheld digital camera, by no means a video camera. In person the car has a lower "growl" than what you can hear in these videos. It actually sounds very similar to the '05 GTO "touring" system on Corsa's website. What sounds like an exhaust leak when the revs are tumbling down really isn't there as much in person.

There is no drone inside the cabin.

That sounds pretty damn good. I'll trade you for my Pukes, I mean Kooks! Lol! I knew the wait would be worth it, hopefully they work as well with my ARH's and Cam.

Mee likey!

FYI, the system on my car is a full cat-back.

FYI, the system on my car is a full cat-back.

I really like the sound. Couple that to what you are saying about "no drone" and I think this might just fit the bill. SOrry if you've already answered this somewhere, but what if any mods does your car have? At idle, it almost sounded like you had a different cam!

Could you put a close-up picture of the tips (or even just decribe them for us?) The pictures in the video almost made it look like they were stock tips. I love the Borla double tips - they are a little bigger than stock and maintain the dual tip look, which I really like.

Thanks!

You have some serious lean in that turn :driving:How often do you autocross?

That was my first time out, and it was awesome. I certainly didn't do well, but I did go with some friends who had vettes (mostly C5s with the Z51 package) and managed to run better times than most of them so that was cool! I'll do this again. I ran in F stock. The mustangs and camaros were way faster than me - almost seemed unfair. I don't know much about "stock" autocrossing but I could swear the mustangs I raced against were not stock. Are you allowed a few minor mods when running a stock class?

Yeah, I know. The car does have a ton of roll, and steering feel could be a little better. I must say, on a tight track this car felt heavy (but I guess it is!) I would also like to eliminate a fair amount of the "float" out of the suspension. The car was solid, stable and very predictable but it just seems to have it's limits with the current stock suspension. It was very easy to feel the car slip into oversteer (unlike my mustang!) and was generally very easy to drive aggressively. Kudos to GM for a good basic platform.

Trust me, I see some pedders stuff in my future! I know I won't ever do the entire track II kit, but the street kit sounds interesting (the one with a drop.) I was even considering the "low hanging fruit" kit you guys sell but wasn't sure what this would accomplish performance-wise and also wasn't sure how involved the install was cost-wise.

Sorry for the hi jack! Love the Corsa sound - it's on my list!

Great sound! Great color too!

Wow, very nice sounding exhaust. I think that the best I've heard so far.

You aint heard mine yet!!! LOL Sounds good man!!

I really like the sound. Couple that to what you are saying about "no drone" and I think this might just fit the bill. SOrry if you've already answered this somewhere, but what if any mods does your car have? At idle, it almost sounded like you had a different cam!

Could you put a close-up picture of the tips (or even just decribe them for us?) The pictures in the video almost made it look like they were stock tips. I love the Borla double tips - they are a little bigger than stock and maintain the dual tip look, which I really like.

Thanks!

Other than the exhaust my car is as stock as stock gets. This car is my DD, I have other toys to spend $$ on, though the temptation is there :) The tips are very similar to the OEM GT tips. They are 3" OD and staggered 1", I don't know what the stockers measure.

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I need to talk to them this week anyway I will see what they say about maybe using their 3.5" tips instead. I don't think there is room for twin 4", and it might be a bit much. A single 4" would look good but it could be mistaken for a V-6...

Wow, those mufflers are BIG. The largest aftermarket mufflers for the g8 by far I think. Must be needed to make the proper size chambers for the noise canceling. Sounding good so far! Looked like in your video that you had the rpm above 2k and below 1500 most of the time. When the system is finalized and if you do another how about one video of 1700 rpm up a grade?

Thanks for all your efforts 'stang.

Have you had a chance to drive it at a steady 70-75 like on an interstate. That is where I noticed the MF droning. Anytime at those speeds and especially if you gave a little throttle like to maintain speed on an incline-DRONE!!!

Sounds pretty good...if the final matches the GTO touring sound, it will be perfect.

Have you had a chance to drive it at a steady 70-75 like on an interstate. That is where I noticed the MF droning. Anytime at those speeds and especially if you gave a little throttle like to maintain speed on an incline-DRONE!!!

That was the exact problem with system #2 that was on my car last week. 70-80 MPH any gas at all and it would drone. especially around ~1700 - 2100 RPM. The current system is dead quiet through the entire rpm range unless you really put your foot into it.

There is no drone at all. The AFM is slightly more noticeable but no droning anywhere in the rpm range.

Looked like in your video that you had the rpm above 2k and below 1500 most of the time. When the system is finalized and if you do another how about one video of 1700 rpm up a grade?

In the video segment that starts with "City Driving..." is from idle at a stop light, light throttle, up to about 35-40 MPH. The RPM starts at idle and sweeps up through ~2200 and shifts twice. That is going up a slight hill over the freeway. Anybody familiar with Cleveland will know the overpass where w117th goes over I90. I think you are asking about the same thing G8V8 is talking about. If you are looking for a drone under light loads there simply isn't one, at all, nothing, nada. I'll try and get a video up. I live on a hill and should be able to get something for you.

Other than the exhaust my car is as stock as stock gets. This car is my DD, I have other toys to spend $$ on, though the temptation is there :) The tips are very similar to the OEM GT tips. They are 3" OD and staggered 1", I don't know what the stockers measure.

I need to talk to them this week anyway I will see what they say about maybe using their 3.5" tips instead. I don't think there is room for twin 4", and it might be a bit much. A single 4" would look good but it could be mistaken for a V-6...

I would prefer a dual 3.5" tip. I have to say, I'd like the car to at least have a hint of "aftermarket" showing on the car if I'm going to spend a bunch of money on a new exhaust! ;-)

Tell'em to give us a few options! That's even better!

Thanks again for the clips, picts and info.

Thanks for the extra info, ya that's what I wanted to know. I have the corsa db reds and they drone like the magnaflows. I guess they got it right with the set up you have. I should have waited.

Thanks stang. I think you just made a sale fo Corsa!

Is this thing for sale yet....and where?

Who will have the best deals? I may have to cancel my MF order!

Need answers Fast....... my car is too the point where it is waiting for the exhaust and I want it Back !!!!!

call corsa.

now i just have to wait for someone to use ARH and the new corsa to give their opinion, and then its good bye to magnaflows

That was my first time out, and it was awesome. I certainly didn't do well, but I did go with some friends who had vettes (mostly C5s with the Z51 package) and managed to run better times than most of them so that was cool! I'll do this again. I ran in F stock. The mustangs and camaros were way faster than me - almost seemed unfair. I don't know much about "stock" autocrossing but I could swear the mustangs I raced against were not stock. Are you allowed a few minor mods when running a stock class?

Yeah, I know. The car does have a ton of roll, and steering feel could be a little better. I must say, on a tight track this car felt heavy (but I guess it is!) I would also like to eliminate a fair amount of the "float" out of the suspension. The car was solid, stable and very predictable but it just seems to have it's limits with the current stock suspension. It was very easy to feel the car slip into oversteer (unlike my mustang!) and was generally very easy to drive aggressively. Kudos to GM for a good basic platform.

Sorry for the hi jack! Love the Corsa sound - it's on my list!

Real racers do it in the corners. Sneak a set of sub-frame bush inserts into your stock G8... if you ain't cheatn you ain't racin :wink2:

i just got an email from corsa and he said.....

We are working on the G8 and have the tuning completed for the kit!

We hope that we can have the kit into production in the next 4-6 weeks!

Sounds sweet...Corsa's always sounded good on V8s!

So will this Corsa system work with LT headers?

Sounds sweet...Corsa's always sounded good on V8s!

So will this Corsa system work with LT headers?


I hope so, i would like to use the ARH long tubes and the corsa, it should sound sweet.

i Think it is a cat back system so you probably have to do some custom work, but idk

So will this Corsa system work with LT headers?

The system on my car was designed to connect just aft of the factory cats. If you want to use LTHs, call Corsa, tell them what you want they are open to ideas. Ask for Gus.

BOOOOOOOO, Tuesday Corsa took my exhaust away :(

The owner called and asked me for a favor. He said he needed the exhaust that was on my car for a top secret project. Something about NASA but I wasn't really listening after I heard I was going to back to whisper quiet stock...

Damn....Hope it wasn't for my upcoming photo shoot....

Who will have the best deals? I may have to cancel my MF order!


So you haven't gotten your street sereis yet ??

So you haven't gotten your street sereis yet ??

Got the e-mail today. Ships friday. Unless they change it again. Still haven't been able to confirm that the drone is dead.

BOOOOOOOO, Tuesday Corsa took my exhaust away :(

The owner called and asked me for a favor. He said he needed the exhaust that was on my car for a top secret project. Something about NASA but I wasn't really listening after I heard I was going to back to whisper quiet stock...

any news?

They should have it ready for purchase early Dec.

My car is back at Corsa today so they could test their "production" fixtures...

In a conversation last week they also told me early to mid Dec and the final price was not firm yet but they expect somewhere between $1500 and $1800 MSRP though they help open the possibility it might be a little lower. They won't know until the production version is finalized.

In a conversation last week they also told me early to mid Dec and the final price was not firm yet but they expect somewhere between $1500 and $1800 MSRP though they help open the possibility it might be a little lower. They won't know until the production version is finalized.


WOW 1500-1800$ thats freakin expensive!

Let's hope it is lower once they have all their costs added up.

Let's hope it is lower once they have all their costs added up.

Agreed! If not i'll probably go the header route with stock axle-backs. Just can't stomach paying that much for an exhaust.

Well to get an idea of Corsa pricing, i paid 342 bucks for 2 Corsa mufflers alone.....lol

10 months and 10,000 views and still no exhaust system. I guess they want to get it right. LOL

$1500 and $1800 MSRP

Does that include LTH? wow..that's alot.

Does that include LTH? wow..that's alot.

The general manager of Kooks just called Corsa for me today and spoke with one of the Brown family. What came back was that they will have a cat-back system ready in 2-3 weeks from now, meaning just before Christmas. I have heard something similar to this before but since it was from the horse's mouth so to speek, this time it may be legitimate.

Sweet, sweet music!

As I said yesterday I dropped my car off so they could test their production fixturing with my car and test fit the first system off the jigs. I picked it up this evening. It is even better than the last prototype they gave the OK to. The rear mufflers are tucked up behind the bumper, the AFM is even less noticeable, and the idle sound/free rev is much improved. I talked to both Brownings this evening and they are hoping to have systems ready for shipment before Christmas but that will be close. There is still some fixturing they are waiting for to be completed before they start knocking these out.

That being said the system is perfect I took some shots while my car was up on the lift and will get video up as soon as the weather cooperates. It is supposed to rain/snow through the weekend though so don't hold you breath. Also Corsa will be putting sound clips up, again as soon as the weather allows it. Any of you in the Cleveland area are more than welcome to check it out in person, just shoot me a PM.

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Sweet, sweet music!

As I said yesterday I dropped my car off so they could test their production fixturing with my car and test fit the first system off the jigs. I picked it up this evening. It is even better than the last prototype they gave the OK to. The rear mufflers are tucked up behind the bumper, the AFM is even less noticeable, and the idle sound/free rev is much improved. I talked to both Brownings this evening and they are hoping to have systems ready for shipment before Christmas but that will be close. There is still some fixturing they are waiting for to be completed before they start knocking these out.

That being said the system is perfect I took some shots while my car was up on the lift and will get video up as soon as the weather cooperates. It is supposed to rain/snow through the weekend though so don't hold you breath. Also Corsa will be putting sound clips up, again as soon as the weather allows it. Any of you in the Cleveland area are more than welcome to check it out in person, just shoot me a PM.

The Corsa system looks impressive from a quality standpoint. Do the pipes coming off the cats actually make an X? I like the resonators, probably helps keep things quieter. I just hope the price is well below $1500 otherwise I'll probably go with LTs too.

Yes, the "X" is right before the two small bullet muffler/resonators.

Well I still think the best would be ARH or Kooks LTH with rest of the exhaust Corsa...

Looks great! i bet it will be too quite for my liking.

I can't shoot any video today but it is definitely not quiet. Inside the cabin is a nice tuned growl, outside sounds AWSOME!

I can't shoot any video today but it is definitely not quiet. Inside the cabin is a nice tuned growl, outside sounds AWSOME!

As long as there is NO DRONE! I can handle growl on acceleration, no problem, but drone, forgetaboutit! Is this system made for bolting onto the stock exhaust header-cat, so LT's wouldn't work?

As long as there is NO DRONE! I can handle growl on acceleration, no problem, but drone, forgetaboutit! Is this system made for bolting onto the stock exhaust header-cat, so LT's wouldn't work?

SLP LT's should work perfect with any catback. bolt right on.

No drone, I don't know how many times I can say there isn't any drone, one more, no drone :)

what type of mufflers are they using?? Instead of going the cat-back route.

are the tips still 3"? I am really hoping someone comes out with 3.5" dual/dual

Yes they are still 3". I talked to them about going with the 3.5" but that would add at least 1" overall and there isn't much more than that available in the opening. With a stainless exhaust you have to account for thermal expansion or you end up with melted bumpers. If you really want dual 3.5" tips I am sure they can accomodate you, just call and ask. I would be more than happy to make my car available for trial fitting :)

Rustang-
Thanks for the updates. Looking forward to the vids :)

No drone, I don't know how many times I can say there isn't any drone, one more, no drone :)

any drone?

thanks for the updates and pics

No drone, I don't know how many times I can say there isn't any drone, one more, no drone :)

I want to acknowledge that you have noticed NO DRONE!

I can't shoot any video today but it is definitely not quiet. Inside the cabin is a nice tuned growl, outside sounds AWSOME!

a guy outside my work was driving by in his corvette and his exhaust sounded AWESOME. Asked him what it was and it was a Corsa, so Im curious how these will sound... so far, im sold.

If the weather cooperates then Corsa will be shooting video and getting sound recordings of my car this Saturday...

http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USOH0079?dayNum=2

Not to be a pessimist but, from the pictures, the tips look like they are hanging kind of low. Something doesn't quite look right.

That isn't being a pessimist, that is being picky :) Picky is good when you are spending a bit of money on an exhaust.

Which picture or set of pictures are you looking at?

The top edge of the tips are 1.125" below the top of the cutout and relatively centered. The mufflers are now tucked up nicely behind the bumper unlike the prototype with the black mufflers.

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I really, really like how that exhaust looks. I've been wanting to keep quad tips, so it's nice to see Corsa having them. Plus, like another poster said, my buddy had Corsa on his Z51 C6, and that exhaust sounded spectacular, and had absolutely no drone.

I can't wait to hear these in person... :drink:

I WANT I WANT!!! I had a Corsa Sport on my GTO and plan on doing a Corsa system on this car as well. Hoping they have a tame option for the exhaust. I don't want one as loud as the sport was on my DD!

Well it snowed all night so no recording today :(

will it be announced when it will be available????

I will post as soon as I know anything.

Does anyone know if there will be a axle back solution?

Just got an email from Jim at Corsa..Catback is ready to go...retail price is $1774.99...

Just got an email from Jim at Corsa..Catback is ready to go...retail price is $1774.99...

$1774.99?????
wow

that was list pricing....he offered to sell it to me for a little less...not sure how long corsa takes to get to other resellers and if other resellers are able to offer the systems way less than listpricing..similar to magnaflow...where many vendors sell there systems for about 30% off list...

that was list pricing....he offered to sell it to me for a little less...not sure how long corsa takes to get to other resellers and if other resellers are able to offer the systems way less than listpricing..similar to magnaflow...where many vendors sell there systems for about 30% off list...

$1240+ is a lot of money - to me -
and I am used to Corvette Tax pricing....
- Ray
Unlikely to spend nearly that much
on any exhaust ....

Just got an email from Corsa, fyi.

It will be available within the first weeks of January. Thank you for
your interest. I will hold your information and advise you of the
availability as soon as engineering releases the product.

Regards,

Robert Flores Jr.
Sales Manager
CORSA PERFORMANCE
140 Blaze Industrial Pkwy.
Berea, OH 44017

ridiculous.

Well back to square one!

Before everybody gets their panties in a wad wait and see what dealer pricing actually works out to. The list prices for similar Corsa kits are all north of $1500 so this shouldn't be a surprise.

I talked to the guys at Corsa today and production will start after the first of the year. I have one of their prototype kits on my car and I am very pleased with the quality, sound, and performance. I would love to make video's for the sound, but also have ice and snow on the ground.:(

anyone run dyno numbers comparing the Corsa Prototype exhaust and a Kooks exhaust?

In for corsa cat back.

that pricing is absolutely insane...

does the exhaust blow me after i get out of the car...? it ought to for that kind of money...

what's it constructed of...? titanium...?

if $1700 is expensive, you should see what the sharks on 1addicts sell exhausts for!

$1700 is expensive for a cat back...

especially when it's mainly a sound modification...

i agree... now, $1700 for headers back is alot more reasonable

Yeah I just ordered a set of Kooks 1 7/8" coated, and the x-pipe for $1560.00 shipped. That makes much more sense than $1500+ on a cat back!

anyone run dyno numbers comparing the Corsa Prototype exhaust and a Kooks exhaust?

No, I haven't run my car on a dyno.

Any news or pricing of the Corsa at dealers? I like them also, but not for even $1000. Closer to $500 or $600 is better to swallow.

You are not going to see the Cora for less than the Magnaflow.

You are not going to see the Cora for less than the Magnaflow.

Agreed. The mufflers retail were $153 each.

i might just do mufflers.

Agreed. The mufflers retail were $153 each.

that's not too bad. my DB mufflers were like 170 a pop and they've gone up since. where did you see that? can you buy the mufflers that are going to be on the G8 catback separately?

Boomer, i have to say your car sounds great...

how is the sound at cruising speeds...?

and how much did that complete setup run you...?

Boomer, i have to say your car sounds great...

how is the sound at cruising speeds...?

and how much did that complete setup run you...?

at cruising speeds there is no drone except between 65-75 (about 1600-1900 rpm). it also drones under acceleration between those rpms as well. if your worried about drone, get the red version, not the black versions like i have.

my x-pipe cost me 90 bucks, mufflers cost me 340 and another 60 bucks to have them welded in place of the stock mufflers.

pretty much 500 bucks even.

The reds will still drone, maybe not like the blacks but its there. Seems you are not going to get around it with out throwing down some big bucks!

Since we still do not have any sound clips from Corsa's cat-back system and we really don't know when we will hear an "official" Corsa sound clip, is it safe to assume that the production kit will sound similiar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g-3gT4IEQc

Or does the fact that that car has a Procharger change the exhaust note ?

The reds will still drone, maybe not like the blacks but its there. Seems you are not going to get around it with out throwing down some big bucks!

Yeah, I'm coming to that realization too. I miss the days of my LS1 f-body when a simple "zed" cutout was all that was needed to add a bit of rumble :(

Since we still do not have any sound clips from Corsa's cat-back system and we really don't know when we will hear an "official" Corsa sound clip, is it safe to assume that the production kit will sound similiar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g-3gT4IEQc

Or does the fact that that car has a Procharger change the exhaust note ?

We have had it scheduled twice now to get sounds clips recorded but Cleveland weather has not cooperated. I have the official 1st production kit on my car as of yesterday. It sounds pretty much exactly the same as the video clips I posted of the prototype but the idle sound is cleaned up.

As an aside when I picking up my car yesterday they had a BRAND NEW CTS-V they were doing some R&D work with. THAT is one sweet car.

Has anyone heard when or if Borla is going to do an exhaust system for the G8?

BJ

yeah i think it's been announced that they are making one...

pricey as well though...

yeah i think it's been announced that they are making one...

pricey as well though...

Corsa and Borla both use Austenitic stainless steel which is significantly more durable and also more expensive than lower quality grades of stainless steel.

Companies that use Martinsetic or 400 series are able to sell for cheap but the quality is lacking.

It's similar to different grades of gold, solid 24 karat is much different than hollow gold, yet they are both called "gold".

If you are interested, do a search on Austenitic stainless steel vs. Martinsetic stainless steel. Even NASA has a study available. At least it might help explain the price.

yeah i think it's been announced that they are making one...

pricey as well though...

You're right. I got an email notice from them -and yes, pretty pricey but they look very nice. I sure would like to hear how they sound before spending that amount.

BJ

Corsa and Borla both use Austenitic stainless steel which is significantly more durable and also more expensive than lower quality grades of stainless steel.

Companies that use Martinsetic or 400 series are able to sell for cheap but the quality is lacking.

It's similar to different grades of gold, solid 24 karat is much different than hollow gold, yet they are both called "gold".

If you are interested, do a search on Austenitic stainless steel vs. Martinsetic stainless steel. Even NASA has a study available. At least it might help explain the price.

Corsa and Borla make great stuff no doubt. That being said, 400 series stainless has more iron in it..so it may develop surface rust...but it won't rust through..and will last as long as the car. Many lines like Bassani and Magnaflow use 400 series stainless and it works fine while providing value for the customer.

What I am saying is 304 stainless for a catback is nice...but will your average person notice a difference between than and a 400 series stainless catback....probaly not.

Stainless Works uses the 304 stainless as well and will be released shortly.

Corsa and Borla make great stuff no doubt. That being said, 400 series stainless has more iron in it..so it may develop surface rust...but it won't rust through..and will last as long as the car. Many lines like Bassani and Magnaflow use 400 series stainless and it works fine while providing value for the customer.

What I am saying is 304 stainless for a catback is nice...but will your average person notice a difference between than and a 400 series stainless catback....probaly not.

Relative to pricing (which seems to be the issue at hand here), the simple fact of the matter is that 400 series is the cheapest grade of stainless steel available. Products made from 400 series stainless are going to be cheaper than those made from 300 series. This is the case in every type of stainless steel product from barbecues to architectual to culinary applications and of course automotive as well

There is a scientific reason why 400 series is so cheap and it's composition is simply not as durable or corrosion (rust) resistant as 300 series. There is a wealth of information easily available supporting this.

Enter "magnaflow" and "rust" on google's search engine and you might be surprised at what you find.

If you want durability in your stainless steel, put a magnet on it. If the magnet sticks, don't buy it. Some manufacturers use a mixture of different metals so put that magnet all over the product to test it all.

If you don't care about durability or rust, 400 series is more than sufficient. To each his own.

Do "weekend warriors" need top of the line golf clubs made from the best and most modern materials? Probably not, none of them are making a living playing golf. They can do just fine with cheaper clubs.

Do you really need a gold watch? I mean it tells just as good time as a plastic one and the plastic one is much cheaper.

Do you really need a Pontiac G8? A Honda Fit will get you down the road just fine and it's much cheaper.

Do you really need to watch the superbowl on a big, flat screen, HD TV with surround sound? Probably not, you can see and hear the game just fine on a small black and white "old school", mono TV.

There's a lot more to this but I don't want to belabor the point. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

You definitely make your point concerning quality, and I doubt anyone is really going to debate too heavily with you that one is made with better SS than the other. However, it comes down to what makes sense from a monetary standpoint. Why doesn't Borla offer two systems, I'm sure the jigs wouldn't change, just the material? Make one with their NASA approved, Earth-orbit-ready stainless and another with the cheaper stuff. Stamp it on there if they want, but sell it for 250 less.

You definitely make your point concerning quality, and I doubt anyone is really going to debate too heavily with you that one is made with better SS than the other. However, it comes down to what makes sense from a monetary standpoint. Why doesn't Borla offer two systems, I'm sure the jigs wouldn't change, just the material? Make one with their NASA approved, Earth-orbit-ready stainless and another with the cheaper stuff. Stamp it on there if they want, but sell it for 250 less.

Fair enough. Cheers.

When I had my mustang, I purchased a catback system from MRT (Mustang Racing Technologies/Scott Hoag's company.) Their catback was mfg'd by someone else, but I liked the options they made available to their customers. All the tips were 304 but you had the option of 304 or 400 series for the main catback. Since you could barely see anything but the tips on the mustang, I decided to go with the 400 series catback with 304 tips. Money well saved - the main catback did quickly develop surface rust but the tips didn't show one bit of rust despite 3-4 winters of salt exposure.

If I had the option of buying a catback for the G8 where the main pipes were 400 series and the tips were 304, I wouldn't even hesitate (especially if the savings was significant.)

Why doesn't Borla offer two systems, I'm sure the jigs wouldn't change, just the material? Make one with their NASA approved, Earth-orbit-ready stainless and another with the cheaper stuff. Stamp it on there if they want, but sell it for 250 less.

Because, for one, that's not the image they want to convey. There are plenty of companies that only make top of the line products and will not bother producing anything of lower quality. They have no reason to compete with the lower brackets.

From a practical standpoint, why would they? They'd have to change up entire production processes, as well as either create more stock or replace some of their regular production. Replacing regular production would be pointless, as there is definitely a market for the ones they currently produce and they can move it. Creating more may just be wasteful, as people may just go with the lower quality brands.

As far as the discussion goes, it's simply about what people are willing to pay for what they want. For those of you who think the prices are exorbitant and ridiculous, why waste your time stating so in this thread? Are you trying to convince others to see things your way? Just buy something at a price you think is better, and enjoy.

For those of us who don't want to compromise and have no problems spending the money on an exhaust system that is top-notch quality, has excellent sound, and in Corsa's case eliminates the drone competing systems suffer, then that is our prerogative. "It's only money". :)

Maybe it's back in the last 11 pages, but is there any sort of update on the Corsa system? Pricing maybe?

Because, for one, that's not the image they want to convey. There are plenty of companies that only make top of the line products and will not bother producing anything of lower quality. They have no reason to compete with the lower brackets.

From a practical standpoint, why would they? They'd have to change up entire production processes, as well as either create more stock or replace some of their regular production. Replacing regular production would be pointless, as there is definitely a market for the ones they currently produce and they can move it. Creating more may just be wasteful, as people may just go with the lower quality brands.

As far as the discussion goes, it's simply about what people are willing to pay for what they want. For those of you who think the prices are exorbitant and ridiculous, why waste your time stating so in this thread? Are you trying to convince others to see things your way? Just buy something at a price you think is better, and enjoy.

For those of us who don't want to compromise and have no problems spending the money on an exhaust system that is top-notch quality, has excellent sound, and in Corsa's case eliminates the drone competing systems suffer, then that is our prerogative. "It's only money". :)

I actually have a post in the borla thread defending them, I was really just engaging what's his name on the quality aspect. I agree that Borla really has no obligation to charge affordable prices, and under normal economic conditions they probably have no business need to compete in the lower priced market segment. However, in the current market situation they may actually benefit from offereing a lower priced option to spur sales. There is probably a strong correlation between auto sales/trends and aftermarket trends, and as we know, auto sales have tanked and I'd imagine that the cars still selling at closer to normal rates are cheaper models.

Maybe it's back in the last 11 pages, but is there any sort of update on the Corsa system? Pricing maybe?


exactly.... they told me it would be out by the end of January... and ive heard nothing...

However, in the current market situation they may actually benefit from offereing a lower priced option to spur sales.

Maybe so, but they also run the risk of ruining their reputation as a no-compromise manufacturer, and subsequently running themselves into the ditch. I can see where they're coming from.

Whining about Corsa or Borla's pricing is completely pointless to me. Ditto for dealers charging over sticker for cars. You have a choice - don't buy from them if you don't like the free-market price!

Vote with your action. Whining gets you nowhere. Buy something else!

^^ very true !!!

exactly.... they told me it would be out by the end of January... and ive heard nothing...


I heard Corsa was recently acquired and are now part of a conglomerate, if this is true I wonder if it has anything to do with them being so late to market? Anyone else hear this? Are they no longer a privately owned business run by the founder? Not that it means anything to us....or maybe it does?... Does it?

I heard Corsa was recently acquired and are now part of a conglomerate, if this is true I wonder if it has anything to do with them being so late to market? Anyone else hear this? Are they no longer a privately owned business run by the founder? Not that it means anything to us....or maybe it does?... Does it?

That is all true.... but shouldnt they try to keep us in the loop? I mean I'm waiting for their system and if I dont hear from them soon I might buy something else...

That is all true.... but shouldnt they try to keep us in the loop? I mean I'm waiting for their system and if I dont hear from them soon I might buy something else...

Yes, I agree they should keep us in the loop. Anyhow, they are not the only game in town so it's really their loss. I'm sure if you can find another exhaust option that works to your satisfaction.

Yes, I agree they should keep us in the loop. Anyhow, they are not the only game in town so it's really their loss. I'm sure if you can find another exhaust option that works to your satisfaction.

But is there anything that will give me an aggressive sound when accelerating and no drone while cruising like the corsa would?

But is there anything that will give me an aggressive sound when accelerating and no drone while cruising like the corsa would?

Sound is subjective so it's not possible to answer this question without knowing what "aggressive" and "drone" mean to you. What one person hears as "aggressive", another feels is anemic and boring. What one person hears as "drone" another hears as a pleasant and exciting exhaust note. This is why there are so many options out there.

Corsa's place in the market caters to enthusiasts who prefer something tame and mild so if you are a "Corsa guy", you probably don't want something aggressive. Even under acceleration Corsa is usually the LEAST aggressive of all aftermarket options. This has been the key to their success, they target guys who want it quiet.

if anyone wants a corsa db black axle-back setup i have one i could sell. it only has a couple hundred miles on it. anyone who's interested can feel free to hit me up.

if anyone wants a corsa db black axle-back setup i have one i could sell. it only has a couple hundred miles on it. anyone who's interested can feel free to hit me up.

Are you selling it because you don't like the sound?

I bet it's not because he thinks it's mild or tame!

Can this thread be moved to Exhaust tech?

I pulled my car up the ramp today and snagged a real quick sound clip. No drive-by this time...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o11/ersingleton/th_Corsa_Catback_0309.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o11/ersingleton/?action=view&current=Corsa_Catback_0309.flv)

Start-up and idle is pretty tame but I can hear it in the house when I use the remote start in the morning. Under load and hard acceleration it sounds like a race car with just the right amount of burbles, cackles and pops!

Friends have started referring to it as the White Dragon, though it is still street legal since I haven't taken the restrictor plate off yet ;)

if anyone wants a corsa db black axle-back setup i have one i could sell. it only has a couple hundred miles on it. anyone who's interested can feel free to hit me up.

It's a month later, but are these still available? Why are you selling? too noisy?

I pulled my car up the ramp today and snagged a real quick sound clip. No drive-by this time...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o11/ersingleton/th_Corsa_Catback_0309.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o11/ersingleton/?action=view&current=Corsa_Catback_0309.flv)

Start-up and idle is pretty tame but I can hear it in the house when I use the remote start in the morning. Under load and hard acceleration it sounds like a race car with just the right amount of burbles, cackles and pops!

Friends have started referring to it as the White Dragon, though it is still street legal since I haven't taken the restrictor plate off yet ;)

68Rustang, Is that a whole Corsa Cat back system you have installed? Some people seem to have a homemade system using Corsa mufflers. I haven't seen a picture of the official Corsa cat back yet. Thanks for your help.

I want the full Corsa cat back, best deal I've seen is $1440 plus shipping. If anyone has seen a better price please PM and let me know.

Yes the full cat-back. Post #148 in this thread has pics of my car on the lift at Corsa showing the whole system.

Sounds great, and I love the tips too. I need more feedback on the system regarding drone and also how it sounds with AFM mode.

Sounds good. I would agree that the full system is a bit tame. It's not as loud as the db reds and no where near what the blacks would sound like with the mid muffler removed, that set up is rather agressive.

Sounds great, and I love the tips too. I need more feedback on the system regarding drone and also how it sounds with AFM mode.

They say on their website that there is no drone

I want the full Corsa cat back, best deal I've seen is $1440 plus shipping. If anyone has seen a better price please PM and let me know.
Let me know too. Had Corsa on my C5 and Yukon Denali, Love how the exhaust sounded without drone at HWY speed. Thanks:)

How does it sound when the AFM kicks in? Anyone have an interior recording at cruise speed with AFM activated?

BJ

Sounds good. I would agree that the full system is a bit tame. It's not as loud as the db reds and no where near what the blacks would sound like with the mid muffler removed, that set up is rather agressive.


I find it hard to judge the actual sound from these clips my self. If they can match the corsa dB blacks with mid res then I'd be happy because of the whole no drone thing in the full cat back.....

I cant seem to recall, what was the actual hp/tq gain on the full cat back?

I find it hard to judge the actual sound from these clips my self. If they can match the corsa dB blacks with mid res then I'd be happy because of the whole no drone thing in the full cat back.....

I cant seem to recall, what was the actual hp/tq gain on the full cat back?

I believe it was 7hp/12tq

My car is back at Corsa today for some "official" sound recordings. I will let you guys know when they have something worthwhile.

My car is back at Corsa today for some "official" sound recordings. I will let you guys know when they have something worthwhile.

That's awesome news. I assume you're completely happy with your system?!

Yes.

sound clips are up on their site.