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Old 11-12-2012, 02:40 AM   #1
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Default Exhaust on a budget

Here's the deal...I just got a check in the mail from a defect suit on my old house. The wife gave me a very strict budget of $800. I want to get exhaust (headers and axle back) end a real cai. I'm in a pickle...there are 3 routes i've narrowed it down to...

1) Pacesetter long tubes, obx axle back and volant cai. All brand new. Puts me under budget before labor.

2) Kooks mids and either flowmaster 44s or 40s (with j pipe). All used from different board members.

3) Doug Thorley long tubes and magnaflow cat back slightly used from a board member.

4) Open to all suggestions

Options 2 and 3 leave me running my home made cai.

I'm honestly leaning towards 1, but will be persuaded by intelligent input. Thank you for your help in advance.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:45 AM   #2
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I think if you're going to be moving that much volume out of the engine, it's time to bite the bullet and get a real intake. I think it makes the most sense and will help overall with the gains. Keep checking for used ones if you have a little time to spare
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I think if you're going to be moving that much volume out of the engine, it's time to bite the bullet and get a real intake. I think it makes the most sense and will help overall with the gains. Keep checking for used ones if you have a little time to spare
I have a terrible impulse problem. I can't wait on anything. That's why i'm leaning towards 1. I get it all right now. I've even thought of mixing 1 and 2. Pacesetter, volant, and flowmasters.
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Thats quite a few mods to the exhaust bro. With Headers you'll need to budget for a tune as well otherwise you'll be running lean. The Cortex doesn't support headers(sell it to cover some costs). I'd go with 1 or 3.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:38 AM   #5
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Thats quite a few mods to the exhaust bro. With Headers you'll need to budget for a tune as well otherwise you'll be running lean. The Cortex doesn't support headers(sell it to cover some costs). I'd go with 1 or 3.
I just read a thread about needing a real tune. That stinks. Any idea what Pat G or Livernois runs? I got my cortex for really cheap, so my profit will be high, but this tune will likely put me out of budget.

Thank you very much by the way. I had no idea I could have done damage to my car.
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I just read a thread about needing a real tune. That stinks. Any idea what Pat G or Livernois runs? I got my cortex for really cheap, so my profit will be high, but this tune will likely put me out of budget.

Thank you very much by the way. I had no idea I could have done damage to my car.
No prob, bro. I paid 300 for my Pat G tune but that was because the dyno was unavailable. Good tunes usually run about 400 bucks. I'd get a CAI and the used magnaflow system, give you some sound and gains.
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600 from Livernois if they are still running the special will get you a Rotofab and tune. And with the tune, free updates when you add the headers and cat back.
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625 for the pat G tune. 300 for his actual tuning services and 325 for the handheld you will need to move the tunes from the computer to your car and read codes and what not.
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I'm definitely disappointed. A real tune puts me well over budget. Looks like I'll go with a CAI and axle back only. Try to save some dough for headers and tune. Saving money is not a quality that I possess, so I hope the motivation of "go fast" helps!!!!!
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I'm definitely disappointed. A real tune puts me well over budget. Looks like I'll go with a CAI and axle back only. Try to save some dough for headers and tune. Saving money is not a quality that I possess, so I hope the motivation of "go fast" helps!!!!!
I say go with the CAI and axle back. I really liked the sound of mine when I had solo axle backs with the mid muff and resonators deleted and x pipe installed. Very aggressive sounding. Regardless of the axle back you choose I say go ahead and do away with the mid muff. Otherwise it will be too quiet IMO. Should be able to make all the above happen for ~ $800. It won't be that much faster but it will sound amazing!

Here is an old video of mine before headers. really had a nice note...

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I'm definitely disappointed. A real tune puts me well over budget. Looks like I'll go with a CAI and axle back only. Try to save some dough for headers and tune. Saving money is not a quality that I possess, so I hope the motivation of "go fast" helps!!!!!
There have been a few guys that ran longtubes and cortex btw.
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Solo axle-backs...buy a $30 x-pipe on eBay and have it welded in place of the mid-mufflers. Did this on my GT and it was great sound on a budget...I didn't have the money for proper headers, installation, tune, etc. It's the way to go for sure! Then save your pennies for Kooks LT's and a high flow catted X.
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Solo axle-backs...buy a $30 x-pipe on eBay and have it welded in place of the mid-mufflers. Did this on my GT and it was great sound on a budget...I didn't have the money for proper headers, installation, tune, etc. It's the way to go for sure! Then save your pennies for Kooks LT's and a high flow catted X.
This would be the cheapest (and reasonable) route. Then use the money left over to get a real intake (Rotofab or Vararam)


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Solo axle-backs...buy a $30 x-pipe on eBay and have it welded in place of the mid-mufflers. Did this on my GT and it was great sound on a budget...I didn't have the money for proper headers, installation, tune, etc. It's the way to go for sure! Then save your pennies for Kooks LT's and a high flow catted X.
+1 on this. I ran this set up for a year and it was great. I would personally go Rotofab over Volant btw. There have been some threads on here stating the Volant did not have the gains of the Rotofab.
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What tune are you running now? I see you've got headers, and pat g coming soon...
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What tune are you running now? I see you've got headers, and pat g coming soon...
I HAD the Cortex on it, no CELs BUT was getting 19-20mpg on the hwy!
Removed the tune and it went back to 25-26.
Just sold the tuner and super 44 axlebacks I had and about to order the Pat G software.

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jesusfreak702 what side of town do you live on? i know you have been pm'ing with chappy he did his exhaust on a budget. dyno tune from sullivan gm performance is $375 on average you will leave with about 340hp with exhaust and intake. pacesetters are $270 from maryland speed + $65 for the connection pipe, cut and welded mid will run about $100 + but using a cheap a/b will drone bad if you leave dod on.

pypes are $300 chappy had a nightmare getting them on right

obx are $300 idk of a local car running them

there is/was i set of magnaflows used for sale for $240 i think.



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jesusfreak702 what side of town do you live on? i know you have been pm'ing with chappy he did his exhaust on a budget. dyno tune from sullivan gm performance is $375 on average you will leave with about 340hp with exhaust and intake. pacesetters are $270 from maryland speed + $65 for the connection pipe, cut and welded mid will run about $100 + but using a cheap a/b will drone bad if you leave dod on.

pypes are $300 chappy had a nightmare getting them on right

obx are $300 idk of a local car running them

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Sweet, another Vegas member. I live as far northwest as you can get, but I work near the airport. I was going to ask him about the Sullivan tune. If I can sell my Cortex, I'm still in the ballpark with all of this. Thanks a ton man, and I hope to run into you guys some time.
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also the CAI depends. Vararams are good for power up top when moving because of the "ram air" qualities, the roto will make more power down low and on a dyno. they are both about equal so it is personal opinion on styling. I wanted the roto-fab and radiator cover to clean up the engine bay. the vararam will leave a lot of space open on the driver side and looks odd to me.
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Sweet, another Vegas member. I live as far northwest as you can get, but I work near the airport. I was going to ask him about the Sullivan tune. If I can sell my Cortex, I'm still in the ballpark with all of this. Thanks a ton man, and I hope to run into you guys some time.

good group of guys out here, some of the biggest horsepower G8s. a lot of knowledgable people and couple mustang loving jerks that have g8s.

I'll send you a PM when we are going out somewhere. i also work by the airport, in the 215/15 interchange. Sam is the guy at Sullivan it's his shop out at the speedway he has done all of my work and a lot of the other guys too. Just got my car back with the stall. I would link you his site and blog but think it is against the rules, you just have to call him and setup an appointment. tell him the local G8 guys sent you up there.
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