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For all of you saying impressive driver, watch this video:

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No doubt the ZL1 turned that time. It is hard to compare that time to times from C&D editors behind the wheel though.

I think I even remember reading somewhere where they said during one of the runs (C&D that is) that they thought they could get more time out of a car, but weren't willing to risk punting it into a wall.

So, it will be interesting to see how they do next year at the Lightning lap driven by an enthusiast and not a crazy ass engineer!

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Ya, I believe it was the same driver that drove the ZL1, I know it was the same day.

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Oh i didn't make a mistake.... here is where the prior GT500's end up....

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20 2:59.0 NISSAN GT-R (all-season tires) LL3 11/08
21 2:59.5 AUDI R8 5.2 FSI LL4 2/10
22 3:00.7 FORD GT LL4 11/06
23 3:00.7 PORSCHE PANAMERA TURBO S LL4 2/12
24 3:01.1 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 LL3 11/06
25 3:01.2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 11/08
26 3:01.6 DODGE VIPER SRT10 LL3 11/06
27 3:01.8 PORSCHE 911 GT3 LL3 8/07
28 3:02.8 FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302 LAGUNA SECA LL2 2/12
29 3:03.6 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 8/07
30 3:03.8 PORSCHE BOXSTER SPYDER LL3 2/11
31 3:03.9 PORSCHE CAYMAN R LL3 2/12
32 3:04.0 CADILLAC CTS-V SEDAN LL2 11/08
33 3:04.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/11


Some lap times fastlaps.com (http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/virginia_international_raceway.html):

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Pos Make / Model Time Year Power (hp) / Weight (kg) Driven by
1. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2:45.63 '08 647 / 1530 -
2. Mosler MT 900S 2:45.90 0 441 / 1100
3. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 2:48.60 '08 600 / 1536
4. Mosler MT900S Photon 2:49.80 '02 441 / 973
5. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2:50.70 '08 647 / 1530
6. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2:51.80 '08 647 / 1530 Mark Gillies
7. Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera 2:51.80 '10 570 / 1430
8. KTM X-Bow 2:52.30 '08 241 / 871
[2:52.38 2012 Camaro ZL1]
9. Nissan GT-R 2:53.20 '11 530 / 1736
10. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 2:53.50 '11 512 / 1394
11. Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 2:53.90 '09 670 / 1664 Mark Gillies
12. Ferrari 430 Scuderia 2:54.60 '07 510 / 1402
13. Nissan GT-R 2:55.60 '08 479 / 1740
14. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 2:55.90 '10 450 / 1400
15. Dodge Viper SRT-10 2:57.40 '08 612 / 1567
16. Porsche 911 Turbo S 2:57.50 '10 530 / 1585
17. Ariel Atom 3 2:57.60 '08 300 / 456 Mark Gillies
18. Mercedes SLS AMG 2:58.00 '10 571 / 1620
19. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 2:58.00 0 659 / 1750
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That is the "old" GT500 and there's a big difference between a pro driver and a magazine editor.
You are missing line 28 and 33 at the beginning... the LS Boss and the 2011 GT500.... those are not old

I wouldn't consider an Engineer a professional driver....

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You are missing line 28 and 33 at the beginning... the LS Boss and the 2011 GT500.... those are not old

I wouldn't consider an Engineer a professional driver....
I didn't miss anything. If you paid attention to detail (which clearly is not the case), I said "old"... as in not the 2013. That is the prior model... short 100 hp and a whole bunch of new toys.

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Make no mistake though... the prior GT500 (properly equipped) was capable of the same or better raw handling and braking numbers as the ZL-1. The '13 is going to be even better with improvements in the power department, suspension, brakes, Torsen diff, and launch control.
This was the comment I was referring to. Which was not correct and that is what I was showing you by the standings.

That's all.

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This was the comment I was referring to. Which was not correct and that is what I was showing you by the standings.

That's all.
Don't point out logic to Ford owners. They don't get it. Seems iceman is already a typical Mustang owner who can see no wrong with Ford at all. Even with "facts" that go against what he says. Facts never did stop a Ford fan.


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Don't point out logic to Ford owners. They don't get it. Seems iceman is already a typical Mustang owner who can see no wrong with Ford at all. Even with "facts" that go against what he says. Facts never did stop a Ford fan.
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I am a "just the facts please" kinda guy too...... LOL

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This was the comment I was referring to. Which was not correct and that is what I was showing you by the standings.

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Don't point out logic to Ford owners. They don't get it. Seems iceman is already a typical Mustang owner who can see no wrong with Ford at all. Even with "facts" that go against what he says. Facts never did stop a Ford fan.
You guys need to brush up on your reading skills. I said "raw" numbers. Let me translate for you. That means the prior GT500 matches the ZL-1 in instrumented testing. Look up the skidpad and braking performance. I never said anything about lap times on that specific track. As a "typical Mustang owner", I'll highlight another fact... you guys need to expand your vocabulary and not make assumptions. I can read lap times just fine. I guess you both need to work on reading sentences.

Clearly, the ZL-1 has more going for it than raw handling and breaking numbers. Compared to the prior GT500, it has more power, better rubber, better diff, more advanced traction control, and a superior suspension setup. Some of those advantages are gone against the '13 GT500. It will make for an interesting comparison when the cars are driven by the same driver, in the same conditions, on the same day.

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You guys need to brush up on your reading skills. I said "raw" numbers. Let me translate for you. That means the prior GT500 matches the ZL-1 in instrumented testing. Look up the skidpad and braking performance. I never said anything about lap times on that specific track. As a "typical Mustang owner", I'll highlight another fact... you guys need to expand your vocabulary and not make assumptions. I can read lap times just fine. I guess you both need to work on reading sentences.

Clearly, the ZL-1 has more going for it than raw handling and breaking numbers. Compared to the prior GT500, it has more power, better rubber, better diff, more advanced traction control, and a superior suspension setup. Some of those advantages are gone against the '13 GT500. It will make for an interesting comparison when the cars are driven by the same driver, in the same conditions, on the same day.
Oh, don't try and twist what you meant. It was pretty obvious what you were getting at. Just a typical Ford owner who thinks his car is now king **** and everything else sucks. It's funny how quick it changes people.


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All I know is the Camaro ZL1 looks BADASS!!! Lol I respect the new GT500 but even the ford engineers and execs said the new car won't live up to all the 200 mph hype and other advertising they've been pushing unless,

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We should be talking about the fact that the ZL1 beat a GTR, not comparing cars when one of them isn't even out yet! All in good time boys, all in good time. I guess the Chevy is the real deal after all.

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No kidding... again though, Iceman has a point. Different days and track conditions for the GT-R vs when the ZL1 ran. Although I suspect the GT-R had more favorable track conditions.

The biggest difference is we're comparing times set by an engineer (who obviously is also a VERY good driver), to those of a magazine editor...

I too cannot wait for the GT500 - ZL1 head to head comparison at Lightning Lap next year....

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Oh, don't try and twist what you meant. It was pretty obvious what you were getting at. Just a typical Ford owner who thinks his car is now king **** and everything else sucks. It's funny how quick it changes people.
I said exactly what I meant. And then I said it again for the slow people that have a tough time comprehending English.

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I said exactly what I meant. And then I said it again for the slow people that have a tough time comprehending English.
Oh, how cute. Now personal insults. Ford really made you into a tool quite quick.


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No kidding... again though, Iceman has a point. Different days and track conditions for the GT-R vs when the ZL1 ran. Although I suspect the GT-R had more favorable track conditions.

The biggest difference is we're comparing times set by an engineer (who obviously is also a VERY good driver), to those of a magazine editor...

I too cannot wait for the GT500 - ZL1 head to head comparison at Lightning Lap next year....
Thank you!

The ZL-1 threw down a monster lap and now the pressure is squarely on the GT500 to beat it. I just want to see the two cars back to back... no variables.

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Oh, how cute. Now personal insults. Ford really made you into a tool quite quick.
Look in the mirror. You launched the first insult. I'm done wasting my time with you.

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