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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 11-06-2013, 12:51 PM Thread Starter
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I have a G8 V6. I believe it has 17s for the tires. I just bought the car a week ago. I live in Western Wisconsin and it recently snowed. My drive I'm was aweful today. My trunk is empty as I wanted to see how it would handle with no weight. I love driving in the snow and my previous car was an '05 Grand Prix which did good in the winter. This is my first time driving a RWD car so I'm hoping to get used to it. I need suggestions on how much weight to add in the trunk. I do not want to buy winter tires. Any suggestions?
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I have driven on all season tires through the last 4 NE winters with my G8. It isn't a problem so long as the tread is good. This was true with the Portenzas and my Conti DWS tires. Your real issue is going to be learning how to handle a RWD car in bad weather. FWD is way easier to drive in the snow. That said, once you get the hang of it you'll never want to go back.

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Where you about I'm Wisconsin? I live in Stevens Point, drive year round with General Gmax AS03s. Which are essentially the Conti DWSs. Just get good all seasons you'll be fine.

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The G8 V6 came stock with 18 inch wheels, not 17. However, somebody may have put aftermarket 17 inch wheels on your car.

I have a hundred pounds of junk (overnight bag, spare tire, tools, etc) in the back of my G8 GT and that seems to be the right amount of weight in the trunk. Adding another 40 pounds didn't improve it noticeably.

Tires are the most important thing. My G8 came with the 19 inch wheels and the summer-only tires, and they weren't kidding about the summer-only part. I bought a set of used OEM 18 inch wheels for winter but the attached stock Goodyear RSA tires were horrible. A week later I bought Michelin Pilot Sport AS Plus all-season tires, which are good in southern Ohio but might not be good enough for Wisconsin snow.

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Thanks for everyone's imput. Sorry, I actually just looked and they are 18's. I really have no clue if they are all season tires or not. I know they just look really low profile and have some wide gaps in them which make me think they are more performance. I live right on the Minnesota/Wisconsin border near the Twin Cities (MN). I noticed today the roads were pretty icy. While trying to make it up a hill on the road - the front just swayed with every bump I hit and as soon as I felt like I had it under control the back end would fishtail a bit. Considering I was commuting my daughter to daycare, it was kind of scared. I know I need to get a better feel for the RWD car in snow/ice but I was hoping to see what anyone would suggest weight wise for sand bags in the trunk.
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Tell us what kind of tires they are so we can tell you if they are winter tires. I'm not sure if its just Bridgestone that does this but they have a snow icon somewhere on the tire telling you if its a winter tire or not.

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One husband in the trunk should do it. Two will be better.

But seriously, you should reconsider getting snow tires. Back in the 70s when everything was rear wheel drive and open differentials, I would put a pair of snows on the rear and have no trouble driving through 6 inches of unplowed snow. The rear will feel loose but like the others said you will learn to react to it.

I had an '05 Grand Prix too and a '98.
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i second snow tires. worthy investment, and idk how comfortable you are with swapping the tires yourself - but local garage can do it for you for like $20 in an hour.

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With the 4 years under my belt in the G8 ive driven through all 4 seasons in Chicago with summer tires. F-ing AWESOME! I have 2 heavy a** subs w/ box, which kind of helps. You get pretty ballsy too whipping the tail out.


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Hahaha- I like your post 'whatsnext'. Well I rather not get winter tires...I was kinda pulling teeth to get my husband to agree with me buying the car.

Okay, the tires are 245/45/18 eldorado legend tour. This is what I bought the car with. Anyone know anything about these tires?
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Its an off name company thats for sure. As long as youre getting traction, then youre golden. No need to switch if theres a good amount of thread left.


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Okay, the tires are 245/45/18 eldorado legend tour. This is what I bought the car with. Anyone know anything about these tires?
A Google search reveals that they are inexpensive private-label all-season tires made by Cooper. I couldn't find any reviews that I trusted.

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Okay, I will have to do more research on them. I had never heard of that brand but I have heard of Cooper.

Well that's my problem.... I'm not getting a ton of traction - or maybe it just feels that way because that was my first experience in the ice/snow with RWD. Since it all melted - I haven't gotten any sand or anything yet. Still unsure of how much weight wise I would need for my trunk. There really isn't much weight in the car as far as passengers and myself go so I feel like sandbags would help. But if some of you are saying you are getting good traction on all season tires - and these are all season then I would assume I should be getting good traction.

And by the way - I love my car so far!
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I'm in the Green Bay Area and never had to add weight to the trunk, just remember from a stop you have to start slow or even start off in second from a stop.


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You might also want to measure the tread depth of each tire with a depth gauge. I usually take three measurements on the tire, one on each end and the center. If the front tires have significantly more depth than the rear, might help to move them to the rear since the best tires should always be placed on the rear of the vehicle. Fortunately, there are many forum members whom on a regular basis drive or live in snowy/ icy weather, so you've come to the right place for advice. Good luck and welcome to the forum.

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Yeah I've driven through a few winter storms in Northern IN and all was good. For RWD these cars perform pretty well in the snow. Like stated before as long as you have good tread, all season tires, you'll be fine.

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I put 2 50# bags of salt in the trunk and used some 2x4 scraps to make sure they didn''t slide around.

Seems to help but I also have Blizzak winter tires as well.

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Tally one more up for that all-seasons will be fine. Last season drove through some pretty wicked snow storms including one that was about 4-6 inches on the road before it had been plowed, my all-seasons on my v6 performed fine. Keep in mind though that conti dws tires are very highly rated so they might be a lot better than some of the lower end all-seasons out there.
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I live in Toronto we do not get a lot of snow, but I put on winter tires and they make a big difference especially when you need to stop. I have never driven my car with all seasons in the winter so I can not really comment on it. I know below 43 Fahrenheit (metric here 6 Celsius) the winter tires with their compounds make a big difference.
Not sure how cold it gets there but below 33 F all season's traction is not very good.

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Thanks everyone. Winters here range from 30s F to -40 F. I didn't realize all seasons would react differently with temp. I still haven't driven on a snow packed road yet- when I wrote this post it snow a bit and we had freezing rain. I suppose no car handles well with freezing rain. It's good to read everyone's input though. I'm glad to hear a lot of you drive the g8 in winter also. Looks like I just need to get a little more comfortable driving RWD in snow.
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