Yeah I totally get that. But I am running 40 Series tires all around, It sets the stance low and they wouldn't fit. I have a 3rd gen Camaro I built a 3.5" exhaust. It came out just before the rear tire. I had to insulate the floor to protect the carpet from the heat. You know what I love the fact you can clearly see the cut out from the rear when following or loosing, depends how you see them. Many people have taken photos of them. I use the auto start, and walking out to the parking lot of work twice with teens and adults taking pictures of it from the back. They get startled when it roars to life with no one in it. Not to many people see a quad large pipe rear exit exhaust anymore especially with cut outs. Reminds me of the 50's hot rods that inspire me in my builds still today. Got to inspire the next generation some way. Loud and proud. I actually failed my state inspection because of the no mufflers. No problem, I am fabricating some muffler shells, drill one hole in the tail pipes to vent into the shells, slip them over the tail pipes, weld them up. They will look the part and it will pass. My state law only requires that it have them. By the way I noticed in your descript of your G8. You are going Holden style also. I have stripped mine of all G8 badges. I am going for the Holden version in Australia Commodore SS. I have the SS badges both front and rear lions heads, Lion graphics. Most of all I have with fiberglass removed the split grill and center pillar. Reshaped the hood front. Fabricated the grill surround. Purchased the grill material. I am ready for my respray. I planned to spray it in the spring but the wives car got a stuck lifter and I have been repairing it. Not quite a 6.0L but it is a 5.3L SS Impala. I can't afford the outrages prices to get the parts to do it, so I make them. I still can't believe GM shut down Holden! There would not be the Cadillac CTSV, the Camaro and the G8. What a shame.