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Hey guys, hope y'all having a good Christmas. I've researched for some time now the necessary steps to upgrade to the rear brembo set up. I have a few questions regarding the 2016+ camaro calipers (front and rear)
1. Are they the same as 2010-2015 camaro calipers
2. Would they fit 2015+ Chevy SS rotors
3. Are dba 4000 t3 front rotors really worth the hype?

I was originally planning on doing the ctsv1 all around caliper upgrade since the price I see for the rears only is almost as much as for all of them (found through eBay). Alternatively, I could keep my front brembos and purchase used camaro rears but not a fan of the parts I've found so far.

Experience much appreciated!
 

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I can only provide input on #3, but I would say no, the DBA rotors are not worth the extra cost. I have drilled/slotted rotors from Brake Performance paired with Duralast carbon fiber front/ceramic rear pads and braking performance is great. No fading and excellent bite, pretty much everything I'd expect from my brakes with my usual semi-aggressive driving. Even did the Tail of the Dragon back in October and no complaints. You can spend more money on parts if you want to, but I don't see you getting any measurable benefit from it.
 

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I can only provide input on #3, but I would say no, the DBA rotors are not worth the extra cost. I have drilled/slotted rotors from Brake Performance paired with Duralast carbon fiber front/ceramic rear pads and braking performance is great. No fading and excellent bite, pretty much everything I'd expect from my brakes with my usual semi-aggressive driving. Even did the Tail of the Dragon back in October and no complaints. You can spend more money on parts if you want to, but I don't see you getting any measurable benefit from it.
Thanks for the feedback. Not completely sold on the T3 either but will look into the Brake Performance rotors. I'm trying to order the rear Chevy SS rotors but the "120." and "121." Centric part numbers are throwing me off. Did you do the rear brembo swap by any chance? I want to order from Rock Auto but because of the price difference between what others have posted and what I'm seeing ($39.79 for 12162147 and $53.79 for 12062147), I'm hesitant. Not sure if I should order from Rock Auto or BuyBrakes.com.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. Not completely sold on the T3 either but will look into the Brake Performance rotors. I'm trying to order the rear Chevy SS rotors but the "120." and "121." Centric part numbers are throwing me off. Did you do the rear brembo swap by any chance? I want to order from Rock Auto but because of the price difference between what others have posted and what I'm seeing ($39.79 for 12162147 and $53.79 for 12062147), I'm hesitant. Not sure if I should order from Rock Auto or BuyBrakes.com.
I did the complete rear suspension swap, so everything from the cradle out is Camaro parts.
 

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I did the complete rear suspension swap, so everything from the cradle out is Camaro parts.
I got you. I decided to keep my front brembo and just get them "restored". I did some more digging and found www.BuyBrakes.com as part of the Centric e-tailers. Spoke with John from BuyBrakes and was very helpful, plus was able to confirm 120.62147 is the 2015 Chevy SS rotor with the e-coating (also displayed in the Centric online catalog). They're selling at $61.33ea which seems normal pricing to me. Plus the comfort of mind that I spoke to someone and confirmed before making the purchase, apparently not the first time he gets a call about someone doing a conversion on the G8. Since this is my first time replacing pads I'm going with Hawk Ceramic pads (Front - HB453Z.585, Rear - HB194Z.570). Below are the links for each of these items.

https://www.buybrakes.com/disc-brake-rotor-120-62147 (2015 chevy ss rear rotor)
https://www.buybrakes.com/disc-brake-pad-set-hb453z-585 (for 2009 pontiac g8 gxp front brembo)
https://www.buybrakes.com/disc-brake-pad-set-hb194z-570 (for 2013 camaro ss rear brembo)

All in all I'm looking at $260 not including brake lines for the rear brembo swap. I will confirm fitment upon arrival.

Another reason I looked into Centric was because of this thread, specifically post #292
https://www.g8board.com/forums/7-su...-direct-fit-brembo-rear-rotor-2015-ss-15.html
 

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Pin kit / Crush washer / brake replacement hardware

I'm looking to order new pin kits for front and rear, I think I've found them through ebay. But not sure where to get the crush washers from, and do banjo bolts have to be replaced as well?
 

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I just did mine this past August. Here are all the part numbers and prices I paid. The Banjo bolts were longer than the stock ones but I'm not sure you absolutely have to have them. I did forget to order the copper washers for the Banjo bolts but was able to successfully re-use the stock ones. New ones would be preferred. You definitely need to order the caliper mounting bolts and use a little thread lock on them. These calipers did come with the CTSV logo but I was able to sand it off and use Dupli-color silver caliper paint, Brembo decals and Dupli-color clear engine enamel to make them look right.

Brembo Rt Rear Caliper ACDelco 172-2308 Amazon $195.00 1 $11.70 $206.70

Brembo Lt Rear Caliper ACDelco 172-2309 Amazon $155.43 1 $9.33 $164.76

2015 - 2017 Chevy SS Rear Disc Centric Premium 12062147 CarID $53.63/ea 2 $11.25 $118.51


Carbon Ceramic Brake Pads Powerstop Z26-1053 Summit Racing $57.99 1 $57.99
with caliper clips and pins

Mounting Bolts (4) GM (92139080) Ebay ZZ Perf esales $20.99 1 $20.99
Banjo Brake Line Bolts (2) Ebay ZZ Perf esales $12.99 1 $12.99
 

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Brembo Rt Rear Caliper ACDelco 172-2308 Amazon $195.00 1 $11.70 $206.70

Brembo Lt Rear Caliper ACDelco 172-2309 Amazon $155.43 1 $9.33 $164.76

2015 - 2017 Chevy SS Rear Disc Centric Premium 12062147 CarID $53.63/ea 2 $11.25 $118.51


Carbon Ceramic Brake Pads Powerstop Z26-1053 Summit Racing $57.99 1 $57.99
with caliper clips and pins

Mounting Bolts (4) GM (92139080) Ebay ZZ Perf esales $20.99 1 $20.99
Banjo Brake Line Bolts (2) Ebay ZZ Perf esales $12.99 1 $12.99
SRM6 thanks for the info!! Just a few questions, I'm assuming the numbers following the price of the items was the shipping or do I have that wrong?

Also, the brake pads came with the pin kit for the caliper?? I wonder if hawk pads come with the pin kits as well. I read that some of the guys got their mounting bolts from home depot but if not I'll order them from ZZP as well; I need the banjo but I saw that Goodridge brake line kit includes washers and banjo bolts. https://www.carid.com/goodridge/g-stop-brake-line-kit-mpn-12242.html?singleid=1347325983&url=525436

I haven't checked yet but the PNs you provided for the Brembo calipers are for CTSV1 rear calipers or Camaro rear SS calipers?
 

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No, no and no experience with DBAs.
 

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DBA’s are good stuff. Ran them with Hawk ceramics for several years before my swap.
There seem to be more options out there now. Worth it or not, who knows...
 

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DBA’s are good stuff. Ran them with Hawk ceramics for several years before my swap.
There seem to be more options out there now. Worth it or not, who knows...
I guess l'll find out. I've had my rotors and pads since I purchased it about 6 years ago so I'm sure DBA + Hawk cannot be worse than what I have now lol (considering the installation goes smoothly).

Got the pin kits from ZZPerformance through eBay after all. I couldn't find any part numbers to write down just descriptions. I'm getting the mounting bolts from a local hardware store. Dealer wants $5/screw lol.
 

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Brake line kit

I was hoping someone would point me in the right direction (right PN) for the Goodridge brake line kit that I'll need for this set up. I'll be using '09 gxp front brembo and '13 camaro rear brembo. Has anyone tried this before with aftermarket brake lines?

Came across this thread (https://www.g8board.com/forums/7-suspension-brakes/47090-camaro-ss-rear-brembo-calipers.html - see post#4) while searching up info and it seems the only issue is the stock camaro rear banjo bolts which are apparently too long; this is only an issue when using the stock g8 lines. Not sure if it will still be an issue with aftermarket brake lines. Also, seems like the g8gt uses the same banjo bolts all around, unsure if this is the case with the gxp.

So do I order the '13 camaro brake line kit or ctsV1 brake line kit, do both platforms use same mounting points? I'm under the assumption that both of these cars essentially use the same brembo calipers (front/rear) with different decals.
 

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Rear Brembo Upgrade

SRM6 thanks for the info!! Just a few questions, I'm assuming the numbers following the price of the items was the shipping or do I have that wrong?

Also, the brake pads came with the pin kit for the caliper?? I wonder if hawk pads come with the pin kits as well. I read that some of the guys got their mounting bolts from home depot but if not I'll order them from ZZP as well; I need the banjo but I saw that Goodridge brake line kit includes washers and banjo bolts. https://www.carid.com/goodridge/g-stop-brake-line-kit-mpn-12242.html?singleid=1347325983&url=525436
I haven't checked yet but the PNs you provided for the Brembo calipers are for CTSV1 rear calipers or Camaro rear SS calipers?
Yes, the numbers following the price were for shipping and/or sales tax for PA.

The brake pads came with the pins and caliper clips.

The caliper mounting bolts from ZZP are the metric equivalent of SAE grade 8 bolts and are M12 x 1.75 x45 mm.

The Banjo bolts are M10 x 1.0.

The caliper part numbers I provided were 2004 - 2007 CTSV rear calipers and came with the CTSV logo painted on.

The rear rotors are for a 2015 - 2017 Chevrolet SS and are 14.2" (360mm) diameter and include the parking brake provision.
 

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Rear Brembo Upgrade

I used my stock brake lines with this set-up. I read that unless you autocross or otherwise put extra stress on your brakes (which I don't) there is no need to upgrade the brake lines. I purged the entire brake hydraulic system with this install and have been very happy with the pedal feel and stopping performance. I have also noticed a much improved parking brake performance.
 

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I used my stock brake lines with this set-up. I read that unless you autocross or otherwise put extra stress on your brakes (which I don't) there is no need to upgrade the brake lines. I purged the entire brake hydraulic system with this install and have been very happy with the pedal feel and stopping performance. I have also noticed a much improved parking brake performance.
The need to upgrade brake lines depends on what you are starting with and how hard you are going to be stomping on the brakes. I have a truck that the brake system is known so be on the spongy side and an emergency stomp on the brakes at speed results in a lot of mush in the pedal and not the expected brake action. So stainless brake lines will help there. On the G8, like you said, not really needed unless you are doing a lot of aggressive braking.

The mention of the stock G8 brake lines not fitting with stock camaro rear banjo bolts hopefully has the fix worked out.
 

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The caliper part numbers I provided were 2004 - 2007 CTSV rear calipers and came with the CTSV logo painted on.
I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere, but needs to be addressed here - the Gen1 CTS-V rear calipers require reversal of the bleed ports and fluid transfer line to function as intended.

These calipers have differential bore sizing, and in the production CTS-V configuration, the calipers mount ahead of the axle centerline. For the G8, the caliper is mounted behind axle centerline. The bleed ports MUST be at the top, obviously. The smaller piston mounts at the lower position when installed correctly on G8 or any Zeta platform.

Obviously, some may have simply installed the V calipers so the bleed ports are upward (ie. by swapping calipers side to side), but this means the larger piston MAY be at the lower position--the intent of this desgin, with the smaller piston lower, is to reduce taper wear on the pads by exerting less force in the leading (relative to normal rotor motion) portion of the pad.
 

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It's only a 10 minute job to switch the fluid transfer line and bleeders. It's easier if you have a flare nut wrench to break the fittings loose without rounding them. Don't be surprised if the area behind the transfer line rubber support is not painted when you remove it. I just sprayed some of the silver caliper paint on a piece of cardboard and used a very small brush to touch it up. Worked perfectly.
 
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