[Gxpclone18]

Can’t wait for it to bed finished.

 

[GXP25]

Can’t wait for it to bed finished.

The manual vehicles have a separate trim piece around the center console surrounding the shifter. Have you looked into this?

 

[yutzybrian]

The manual vehicles have a separate trim piece around the center console surrounding the shifter. Have you looked into this?

You can use the automatic trim, especially if you have a short throw shifter. It doesn't even come close to interfering

 

[Gxpclone18]

Yes I have looked, it’s a discontinued part here in Canada and was told can’t order from states.

 

[deb0650]

Greg at Pace told me I got the last GXP M6 harness in the US. I have all the parts now. Will be starting swap in the next week or two.

 

[deb0650]

Swap is completed! I also got the MGW flat stick shifter (gen 5 camaro). My shifter is set back further and can bump into the rear of the trim piece in 2nd, 4th, and 6th. I noticed the shifter pics above are centered better than mine. Did you somehow adjust the shifter to do that or is it simply the difference between how it mounts to the camaro trans vs the GXP trans which I used?

 

[Carnagexz]

Does one only have to use GXP harness? Could SS harness or Camaro harness work too? Since one is basically unobtanium now.

 

[deb0650]

One thing to consider is our cars are ten years old. The newer SS and camaros have lots of features and electronics that are different or more advanced than ours. May result in variances in the harnesses.

 

[GXP25]

Does one only have to use GXP harness? Could SS harness or Camaro harness work too? Since one is basically unobtanium now.

Find the part number and source it from Australia, if available.

I just received ~$400 worth of new items from Australia last week.

 

[Carnagexz]

Find the part number and source it from Australia, if available.

I just received ~$400 worth of new items from Australia last week.

Yea I was afraid that this would be the only choise left.

Are there any places there that'll do business with someone from US (Thats not JHP)?

Lately I've been trying to use Gumtree, Ebay.Au, and various salvage yard vendors (Do they not have stuff like rock auto?) to source some parts. Mostly visual updates like tail lights and bumper components. However, most either do not bother to even reply or just flat out refuse to ship, even if I offer to cover all costs.

 

[zygee]

Ok so I'm confused after reading all over the place, hopefully someone can help.

Swapping any manual transmission requires flashing the ECU and bcm and then complete removal of the TCM. But it sounds like there's a risk of screwing up royally where the ECU doesn't work withthe bcm anymore because of a VIN mismatch, even if you have white fix up your BCM so that things should work.i believe it was said to have the flash done before pulling the original automatic transmission, but still sounds like there could be issues. How does one manage the flash/tune correctly?

If i were to just buy a LS3/TR6060 pullout with an already tuned ecm off eBay for like $7k could i just avoid all those issues and use the LS3 ECM in place of the L76 ECM? That would work out significantly cheaper than a GXP for me. Like, $5k-$17k cheaper.

 

[deb0650]

I did my M6 swap last month. Really, you are anticipating too much trouble. It was a piece of cake. If you've done old school tranny swaps before then the difference may be the hydraulic clutch and the tunes. An M6 trans and clutch is just like any other trans and clutch. Just more gears. I had my ECM tune adjusted for the manual trans, then flashed in the revised tune, then removed the BCM and sent it to Chris. At that point I removed the automatic and I did the actual trans swap and GXP harness swap and when the BCM was returned I plugged it in and engine started on the first try. A few small issues along the way but certainly nothing that held things up. I still need to get the brakes "relearned" but the car drives fine. Just a couple CELs for the air bags and traction control. I expect that to get fixed when I do the relearn.

 

[zygee]

I did my M6 swap last month. Really, you are anticipating too much trouble. It was a piece of cake. If you've done old school tranny swaps before then the difference may be the hydraulic clutch and the tunes. An M6 trans and clutch is just like any other trans and clutch. Just more gears. I had my ECM tune adjusted for the manual trans, then flashed in the revised tune, then removed the BCM and sent it to Chris. At that point I removed the automatic and I did the actual trans swap and GXP harness swap and when the BCM was returned I plugged it in and engine started on the first try. A few small issues along the way but certainly nothing that held things up. I still need to get the brakes "relearned" but the car drives fine. Just a couple CELs for the air bags and traction control. I expect that to get fixed when I do the relearn.

You're exactly right. It's the electronics/tuning I have no experience with and am trying to fully prepare for So i know what to tell my tuner so everything goes smoothly. I plan on not using a GXP harness.

I thought if you keep the stock brake pedal that fixes whatever issues trying to use any other order pedal creates? What's involved in the "brake relearn"?

I thought i read you have to have the tuning done on the bcm before doing anything else? Also, what exactly is the point of sending the BCM out to white vs. Having the person who tuned yourecu do the bcm so it's all done at the same place at the same time? Is there a way to just delete the BCM while still having everything else work?


Would it be possible to just set up an LS3 harness and ecu while getting rid of all the gt wiring etc.?.

 

[deb0650]

You're not "getting rid of" G8 wiring. The only difference I detected with the harness was lack of the connector for the DOD and the oil pressure sensor and starter use a different connector. And of course the connectors that go to the auto trans are replaced with the connectors that go to the M6 trans. I used my auto brake pedal, just trimmed it to fit a clutch pad. But when the BCM was reprogrammed (and I don't really understand what was done to it) it required the brake relearn. Brake relearn requires a GM device that I guess detects brake travel and actuation and re-establishes comms with the traction control and air bags, etc. I have HPTuners and it does not tune a BCM. Can't delete the BCM. That is what does a lot of "car" functions. keys, lights, alarms. And you tune the ECM first because the BCM needs to "see" the TCM in order to initialize and "take" the revised ECM tune.

 

[zygee]

You're not "getting rid of" G8 wiring. The only difference I detected with the harness was lack of the connector for the DOD and the oil pressure sensor and starter use a different connector.

So was the gxp harness actually worth it then? It sounds like the g8 harness would be fine, just don't use the DOD stuff and if you really need new connectors buy new connectors.

Also, where will you be going for the break relearn? A GM dealer? I'm not sure what "GM device" would be.

 

[GXP25]

Yea I was afraid that this would be the only choise left.

Are there any places there that'll do business with someone from US (Thats not JHP)?

Lately I've been trying to use Gumtree, Ebay.Au, and various salvage yard vendors (Do they not have stuff like rock auto?) to source some parts. Mostly visual updates like tail lights and bumper components. However, most either do not bother to even reply or just flat out refuse to ship, even if I offer to cover all costs.

eBay.com.au and yes, there are quite a few sellers that'll ship things to the US. Large items are tricky as you've seen.

 

[Legacy]

None of that re-learn stuff is necessary unless:

1. you broke the clockspring
2. you loaded the wrong tune file from a gxp instead of the VE Commodore manual trans file

 

[zygee]

What does the driveshaft length come out to when swapping to a Camaro TR6060, anybody know?

 

[zygee]

The automatic and manual transmission mounts are different correct? Are all the manual transmission mounts the same?

What exactly does this adapter do and i where do you get the bushing from (http://stores.lsxeverything.com/t56-tr6060-transmission-mount-adapter/)? I looked all on their website and couldn't find just the bushing.

Does that adapter make it so the TR6060 will work with an automatic or manual transmission mount?

 

[GTA91]

Reviving this thread to see if any of the recent posters will reply with their updates as there are unanswered questions towards the end.

GREAT thread and info by the OP and others. Extremely helpful as I'm planning a TR6060 swap into my G8 GT and have a Camaro TR6060 sitting here. Thanks!