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Anyone else pulling to the right?

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#1 ·
I just took it over to the local firestone for an alignment as the pulling to the right has become a real PITA. After taking a look at it they told me the car has a "set" caster setting not allowing for any correction, their solution was installing an adjustable caster/camber kit for $137.00. According to them this will fix the problem. The car has no uneven tire wear, just an annoyance. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The settings for the alignment are as follows:
Front Left: Front Right:
-0.9 CAMBER -1.0
6.4 CASTER 5.8
-0.15 TOE -.010
9.7 SAI 15.3
8.8 Included Angle 14.3


FRONT
Cross Camber 0.1
Cross Caster 0.7
Cross SAI -5.6
Total Toe -0.25


ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
 
#2 ·
Mine pulls a bit too.

Sounds like a hoax with this "KIT" they're pushing.

I'll have to see if it still pulls when I put my OEM summer tires/wheels back on.
 
#4 ·
Thanks for everyone's input. mike from pedders just got back to me and did suggest the pedders adjustable caster kit as it will correct the problem by creating a larger bias between the front wheels. I did a search and found that 2 other members did use this kit and it fixed the pulling problem. Thanks
 
#6 ·
Pulls, drifts, same thing. If you DON'T have your LEFT hand on the left side of the steering wheel, it will drift right.

It does track straight when your driving like they do in Australia. It's as if they set it to drive where the crown of the road helps it go straight.....Down under!
 
#7 ·
I took it to the dealer who made sure the wheels and tires were not bent or out of round, threw it on the rack and it was all in alignment spec, so they gave me the reasoning of the road is angled down to the right. Not very helpful.
Just to clarify, the vehicle pulls hard to the right when your hand is off the steering wheel....According to firestone this will not result in premature or uneven tire wear but is an annoyance. I think I'll try the pedders kit and see what happens.
 
#8 ·
I took mine to the dealer for the pulling to the right and they said it was the upper strut bearing.They said i will be contacted when the parts arrive.They kindly pulled my car up with fresh scuff marks and chips to the r/f corner bumper and fender.I sent a nasty complaint to GM towards this dealership and never went back.I don't trust some dealerships and believe they are wrong about the strut bearing.It hasn't gotten any worse and doesn't seem to pull that often.If the road is uneven(which they always are)the car will drift due to the wide tires.I had this problem with my celica years ago after i put big meats on the front,ended up taking them off and putting on skinny tires.I didn't even have to hang on to the steering wheel with the skinny tires on,it was a night and day difference.
 
#62 ·
Your caster bias is off, Here is a link to get the caster increased as well as adjustable


You need to post your rear alignment as well. That can siginficantly influence direction as well

mike
dms

Mine has slight pull after alignment..Jan 2020
GMC Chevy dealer used a HUNTER aligment rack.
The car is better but def drifts to the right on flat surface..the steering wheel is just a hair to the right.so annoying.

What does the peddlers kit do and can these brain dead dealerships install them?





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#16 ·
Wow this is crazy I just picked up my car from the dealer today and I have had it there 3times for the same thing but mines pull to the left. Mines all started after the ball joint bushing recall, before that the car drove great. Of course they supposedly aligned it twice and the last time they blamed it it on the tires, so now they want to put another set of tires to see if thats the problem but obuously its not.
 
#18 ·
Mine drifts both ways but not all the time it just depends on the road. I repaced my stock tires and it acts just the same after the got broke in. but they said my alignment was perfect, and i had my trusted friend do the alignment.
 
#19 ·
I've noticed in the last week or so that mine has started doing this. There's a long sweeping right hand curve on the interstate on my drive home from work that I've discovered I can can my hand off of the wheel and it follows the curve perfectly. I've also convinced myself in the last month or so that my suspension is shot after reading on here about all of the problems with LCAs and strut mounts and noticing that my car rattles like a 200k mile car going over bumps lately. So, maybe mine is strut mount related. The car has 22,000 miles on it.
 
#21 ·
On the same road, sometimes it pulls to the right and sometimes not... strange
 
#24 ·
Wife used to tell me I pulled to the left, but.....
 
#26 · (Edited)
Mine was going straight when new. Then had the front control arm recall done and it started pulling. Dealer said they didn't have to do alignment but I said that they have to when replacing suspension parts (and it said so in the TSB/recall) and they did the alignment next time I dropped my car off. It was still pulling to the right and they said they did the alignment and gave me before and after specs. Then it pulled right a little bit less.
So I went to alignment place I trust and had it done again. Still pulls to the right.
Also rotated the tires and it still pulls. Tried all tires at 36PSI, 36 PSI front 39 PSI rear, and 42 PSI front and rear. Even wear on the tires.
I wanna get this taken care of so it drives straight.
 
#28 ·
Im sure the caster is off but without specs it is hard to say. Caster will show in spec but still can give you a pull if the difference from side to side is off. Caster will not wear the tires though. I 've been a Ford tech for the last 16 years and usually the left side should be around .5 degrees less than the right side. Usually anything less will result in drift to the right or follows the road crown too easily.
 
#30 ·
Here is how mine was fixed.

I have a 2009 G8GT that I got in November of 2009. I was having the same issue with the car pulling to the right and the steering wheel being slightly turned to the left to go straight. The first time I took my car in, they have done an allignment on it and it cured some of the problems. That did not fix the problem, second time the car was in they found two bad tires and replaced them. That did not fix anything but helped with vibration in the steering wheel. The third time I brought the car in, they did a caster replacement and the problem went away. It drives like a slot car. It does not pull nor drift in any direction.
 
#31 ·
All other items on your car being in factory spec would lead you to adding castor adjustment. While this is new to the G8 the need for castor adjustment to correct the types of pull described in this thread would be old news, very old news. If Pedders had input on vehicles before they were built EVERY vehicle built would have a full range of alignment adjustment.
 
#33 · (Edited)
Mine was also drifting to the right and the steering wheel was a bit off-center. Has 20K miles. I rotated the tires (which were evenly worn) and no difference at all.

Took it to dealership for alignment, they got it back in spec (don't have the specs in front of me know), but afterwards it still pulled a bit.

After 2nd diagnosis by the same dealership, it turns out that it also needed front strut bushings which they replaced under warranty, along with a 2nd attempt at an alignment. MUCH better now.

Is there any design issue that is causing the premature wear? Should I expect the second set to wear out at 20K miles as well?

Thanks!
 
#35 ·
Tire wear is a function of many things:
1. How you drive
2. Static alignment which affects
3. DYNAMIC ALIGNMENTS
4. tires
5 tire pressures
6 excess geometry changes that has influence on dynamic alignments, but also could be influenced by loose or worn components.

Since day 1, there has been a ton of G8 customers with complaints of drifts and pulls. And from day one Pete and I have been chatting about the importance of getting the align specs and posting them.

Now, I will tell you there are 3 types of alignments that are happening today
1. Alignments done incorrectly and out of GM specs
2. Aignments in GM specs but not right
3. Performance alignments that bring all the angles into a specific target range that has a specific purpose.

The question here, is which alignment did you get? Give me your specs and I will tell you!

Now, the biggest primary issue of drifts and pulls is the percieved inability to adjust caster. Caster is adjustable and we have been doing caster adjustments for some time on the G8. It was only recently that GM published a tech note that you can adjust caster but need to buy different shim packs. The issue with these is that you do not have the ability to be caster specific. With our Pedders eccentrics, not only will the be caster speicfic (whatever you want them to be within its limits) you will also be able to add positive caster, which is a great thing indeed.

So if you are having continuous tire wear issues, and you do not want to continue it, we need to know your alignment, what type of driving you do, tire pressures, tire maintenance, and what type of wear are you having. Tire wear on G8s for normal driving is 100% fixable.

mike
dms
 
#36 ·
Interesting....
I did not have any steering issues, but when I had all four control arms done, it started pulling to the left. I took it back in and they said "aligned in spec!" and "it must be the road you were driving on".... It is still making me insane so thanks for the hints to use when I go back in.